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  • It's pronounced G-new? I have always been pronouncing it with a silent G. Also, the copypasta IS relevant to the show, so it's not necessarily "trolling". More like a community injoke is read on the air. .

  • @harizotoh7 When referring to GNU, Rms wants you to pronounce it as a hard a G.

  • HILARIOUS

  • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • install gentoo

  • @MeierTV Install Arch AND Gentoo... using only your penis

  • PUSSYKS

  • AHAHAHA.

  • @TechnololG

    To avoid spreading unnecessary bias and confusion, it is best to adopt a firm policy not to speak or even think in terms of “intellectual property”.

    Read more at gnu. org/philosophy/not-ipr.html

  • @TechnololG

    The term “intellectual property” carries a hidden assumption—that the way to think about all these disparate issues is based on an analogy with physical objects, and our conception of them as physical property.

    When it comes to copying, this analogy disregards the crucial difference between material objects and information: information can be copied and shared almost effortlessly, while material objects can't be.

  • @TechnololG

    Publishers and lawyers like to describe copyright as “intellectual property”—a term also applied to patents, trademarks, and other more obscure areas of law. These laws have so little in common, and differ so much, that it is ill-advised to generalize about them. It is best to talk specifically about “copyright,” or about “patents,” or about “trademarks.”

  • @guessmynamen00b So you have autism and you are faggot... How nice to hear that you are so...

    Next time you (and your friends) know something about monolithic kernels and operating systems history, you can contribute something nice. Something different on that time.

  • i would like to see what we would call it if the HURD kernel ever becomes operational

  • @Hax0rPr0n

    RMS uses the GANOO name because he didn't want his OS project (the GNU system) to be called 'knoo OS'.

  • Hahahaha, this made my day. Can't believe I hadn't seen this vid before.

  • hahahahahhahahaha GNUUBUNTUUUUU

  • LOLLLLL

  • yay GANOO

  • Your beard is good. Just a compliment for you about your beard being good.

  • Gnux.

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  • @MrNukesftw

    lol no. GNU stands for "GNU's Not Unix" pronounced G-noo

    Its a recursive acronym.

  • @MrNukesftw

    Stephen Fry calls it Genu.

    Its Genu.

    watch?v=AwlDZIDGoc0

  • woo! I am 10,000th viewer!

  • I don't really see this as trolling. The debate in itself is valid, from both sides of the table, i.e. Linus really IS only a kernel, not a complete operating system, and the GNU project has indeed existed for much longer already than Linux in itself. On the other hand "GNU/Linux" or "GNU+Linux" is inpallatable in verbal communiation - it'll do well enough in writing. Stallman proposed calling the whole system LiGNUx, but Torvalds refused. So it's a great OS with a bad name. ;-)

  • @AragornCF Why you are referring Linux as it is Microkernel?

  • @TheFri13 I have never said that Linux is a microkernel. It's a monolithic kernel, and the GNU native kernel, the Hurd, was intended to be a microkernel but has so far still not reached a usable state. The fact of the matter however remains that Linux is a kernel (and ONLY a kernel) and that the rest of the operating system comes from the GNU project. Both GNU and Linux deserve credit but neither should claim ALL credit.

  • @AragornCF You said it directly. Microkernel is not OS, it is just part of the OS. Monolithic kernel is the OS, not part of the OS. The OS architecture is different, two most used architectures are monolithic and server-client. There is as well a layered archicture as well. None of the GNU software (execluding HURD, GRUB) work without OS.. HURD is not kernel but OS. HURD's kernel is GNU Mach (and L4). Linux is name for the OS and only for such. Not a name for software system.

  • @TheFri13 [1/2] My friend, you are so very wrong on so many things. A kernel is not an operating system, whether it concerns a microkernel or a monolithic kernel. The kernel is the part of the OS that runs in the processor's highest privilege mode - i.e. ring 0 - while an operating system comprises of a kernel AND a userland (which runs in ring 3). You cannot do anything with a kernel only. You need at least a shell, etc.

  • [2/2] The difference between a monolithic kernel and a microkernel is that a microkernel only runs a small part of its code in ring 0 - e.g. process scheduling, memory management - whereas a monolithic kernel contains lots of other code as well, e.g. hardware drivers, filesystem and security, et al.. In Mach/Hurd, that other code is run from userspace via a server set. That said, GRUB does not run on Linux or any other OS; it's a mini-OS all by itself.

  • @AragornCF Monolithic kernel has all the OS functions in it. The Server-Client OS has separated the OS to own protected processes what all are running in supervisor mode but can be running in different or same address space. Servers actions are just limited to microkernel. tinyurl . com / ngarn8

    Bash, GCC, glibc and all other userspace softwares needs a OS under them. Without OS none of those will work.

    tinyurl . com / 3uaq48 (that just for if you understand basic logic based technology)

  • @TheFri13 I'm afraid that it is you who does not understand basic technology, my friend. You really need to look up on the meaning of the word "kernel". A kernel, whether monolithic, microkernel, exokernel or whatever, is NOT the entire operating system. The kernel is the part of the operating system which runs in ring 0 of the processor, period. An operating system must consist of a kernel AND a userland, i.e. a shell, a toolchain and libraries. With Linux alone, you can't do anything.

  • @AragornCF Kernel was the synonym for the OS definition. Others were "Core, Nucleos, Supervisor, Master Program" and so on. The kernel was the OS when all OS's were monolithics. When the Server-Client architecture was developed, the OS was not anymore just a kernel but microkernel + servers. So other name (OS) became a "standard". You do not use OS directly anyway. But you did not even check those university books and scientifical papers?

  • @AragornCF It is very wierd that you can not even understand that shell, libraries and so on can not operate without the OS. There are few OS architectures and monolithic is one of them. You are still thinking Linux is like a microkernel, just a part of the OS.

  • @TheFri13 Dude, I have tried to explain things to you in a courteous manner. You have this weird preconception of what an operating system is and what it consists of, and in addition you also have weird preconceptions about my intellectual abilities. If you're familiar with Wikipedia, then I would suggest taking a look at it because it explains things quite adequately. Please don't bother replying. This debate is not amusing anymore.

  • @AragornCF You are trying to understand OS technology from user perspective. I talk from it by historical and scientifical bases. How the OS works, how and why there are different architectures. Wikipedia confirms that I am right (=Linux kernel is monolithic and it is a OS alone). And still you can not give counter argue about my links what proofs I am right and you are wrong. You are referring that even OS developers like Andrew S.Tanenbaum does not know what the OS is.

  • @AragornCF

    You can find hundreds of the computer science books what explains that monolithic kernel is the whole OS. While microkernel is just part of the OS and the servers (modules) are needed to company it to get working OS. HURD is OS what use GNU Mach or L4 microkernel. HURD is not a kernel but a Server-Client OS.

    Linux is monolithic kernel what makes it whole OS. It is modular where modularity is in binary level but not in architecture level.

    tinyurl . com / 532kb8

  • @AragornCF a) Monolithic kernel is the first and original (and still used) OS architecture. b) You do not need shell at all. You do not need any UI done by software. The hardware is UI as well. Like in embedded systems where Linux is used very much because there is need for very stable and fast OS. You can have elevetors where the UI is buttons and LED's are the screen or voice ouput is giving the info.

    c) You know how to use tinyurl com / mum9x ? And that is just very very short.

  • @TheFri13 Lastly, an operating system always needs a userland so that it can be used. Linux is supplied by Torvalds & friends as a kernel only, but you also need the GNU libc, GNU Bash (or another shell), the GNU Core Utilities and some other stuff before you've got a workable OS. X11 is not a requirement, but just about every Linux-based OS uses the GNU toolchain and utilities (and Linux, the kernel, is developed for that), while on the other hand GNU can be used with many other kernels.

  • @AragornCF

    Linus isn't a kernel unto itself, but rather another free component of the Torvalds family.

  • I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, shit.

    GNU/shit, actually.

  • Linux/GNU users are just fags.

  • LOL.

    One thing though; why doesn't he press for *BSD to be called GNU/*BSD? FreeBSD for example uses GNU components (GCC comes to mind).

  • @YetAnotherBadYT While there are some GNU tools in BSD, the majority of the various BSD operating systems does not come from GNU. BSD does not use GCC or Glibc, and its kernel certainly doesn't come from GNU either. There IS however a GNU/kFreeBSD system (FreeBSD kernel and GNU userland), and a GNU/kNetBSD and GNU/kOpenBSD, and there even is a GNU/kOpenSolaris (called "NexentaOS"), albeit that there has been some dispute over the licenses as GNU is GPL and the OpenSolaris kernel is CDDL.

  • Fuck yea, RMS :D

  • Haha well done.

  • Linux.

  • @0341593

    I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

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  • GNU/LINUX rockssss !!!

  • I just seen this going on still.

  • Gentoo.

  • trollers are lying stalkers techno pedophile!

  • People would take Stallman more seriously if he didn't look like a complete hobo.

  • @unngoy1337 no its new gnu im giving thumb up fur you

    not ganu new gnu

  • Well, I see no /b/rothers hear.

    8(

  • Nope, I'm right here. I found this vid after googling some spam of this copypasta.

  • trolled HARD

  • You all have a really loose definition of trolling. He sent a letter to a radio show whose hosts were unfamiliar with the meme and they had brief, even-tempered discussion on air about how about how it's formally correct and that they acknowledge the contributions of the GNU project in the overall OS, but as matter of practicality would continue call it "Linux" for short. I'm really more surprised they even took it seriously enough to read on air.

  • @phydr how the fuck were they trolled

  • hahaha

  • @aliancemd

    Are you trolling?

  • I prefer to prononce "Nu" Linux, and "Nome"...

    Just as you don't prononce the K in Knife....

  • Linux!

  • I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as "Linux User" is actually Linux user plus neckbeard, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Neckbeard.

  • GANU.

  • /g/ /g/ /g/ /g/ baby baby baby

  • NO TIME FOR LOVE

  • lol I get this copypasta on my threads all the time

  • GNU/Linux is pronounced "GNU Slash Linux". And Linux is pronounced "Linucks", not "Linnicks". You are a newfag, OP.

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  • I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Legos, are in fact, Lego Bricks.

  • thisusernamebssucks , L2Read the video info before posting.

  • Does richard stallman actually say this? and is there a video of it anywhere? I would like to see

  • im gonna memorize this

  • You know if we follow the same logic my system would have to be called. Gnu/Linux/Debian/Ubuntu/Gnome/­Compiz! lolll

  • It's OK if you want to call your system Gnu/Linux/Debian/Ubuntu/Gnome/ Compiz. The fact remains that GNU is the OS without a kernel and Linux is just a kernel program. A kernel is one component of a complete OS. Anything else are additions to the already complete GNU/Linux system.

  • This is fantastic. 10/10

  • The point is that most of the software is free (as in speech) software, which technically makes it part of the GNU operating system. Most people are either forgetting about the Free Software Movement, or don't really know about it. While the OSF is focused on practical advantages, the FSF is focused on the freedoms users have over their software.

    BTW, I actually have the hurd running on another machine, and it does work. So piss off.

  • JAPANESE BIRD COOKING SPAGHETTI

  • guhnoo

  • Oh god, this is great.

  • Toasting in a sweet broll video.

  • running "enemy of your freedom" here

    hope he classifies me as a terrorist, I like windows 7

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  • My desktop runs FreeBSD, my "server" runs NetBSD, and my laptop runs Ubuntu, a GNU/Linux distro.

  • why is it important to call it "gnu/linux"? im sorry they dont get their names in the credits... lol. if your working for freedom, it shouldnt matter anyway.

  • Favorited, 5 starred

    well done anon

  • I'd just like to interject for a moment

  • GUHNOO

  • well done anonymous

  • And they blatantly kept using Linux throughout the show. May the gods of FOSS strike them down dead

  • 10/10

  • Such Win it breaks my mind apart...

  • You idiots really need to stop idolizing this fat fascist moron.

  • Would rage again

  • FREEDOM STATUS: DELIVERED.

  • I'D LIKE TO INTARJACT FOR A MOMENT

  • oh lawd

  • oh /g/

  • This is awesome.

  • i am 12 and what is this

  • So much win, fav'd

  • 5 stars, would rate again.

  • I'll rate for you good sir.

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