Hey Buddy, Connolly said he was hit after the president. You are probably unaware that a small team of video experts and Professors studied the film and concluded it was altered. Go to Zapruder film hoax .com.
Lmao , all films have been altered by the CIA and cannot b trusted to do proper Analasis , voodoo film Analasis ? At the time of the killing it was announced live , verbatim . There has been a shooting in the motorcade !!!
One other point here, Bob. BTW, you are the most intellectually honest pro-conspiracy person I've encountered here.
Anyway, another reason I have my doubts is the nature of the reactions. As u know, many suppose a shot occurred at Z160 on the basis of a common reaction whereby many turn to the right. But Z285 is different. Most are turning towards JFK, not the direction of the alleged shot. Which suggest a sound came from JFK himself.
@1239jer I noticed the same. Of course Mrs. Kennedy was vocal at that point I think. Nevertheless it is consistent with hearing a sound from the left and turning to look at the president.
Further, while Nellie's statements may make 285 seem possible, John's statements don't support it. Jean Hill's head movement was likely a smooth one, the grain makes this difficult to discern, plus it doesn't seem likely that she'd only "notice" the limo once she heard a loud sound. We'd expect her eyes to be glued on the president. Does she do a similar movement in Nix? Jackie - seems to react to something from JFK, rather that something external.
I was directed here by the post Bob made in the short clip of the Zap film re 285. Here as there, I will note that reactions don't prove anything, even if they seem to match some witness accounts. I mean, You argue Nellie sees JFK, then pulls John in when she mistakenly thot a 285 shot struck him, it looks more like he was falling into her and thot the 313 shot (which happened just as she was pulling him in) was THAT shot.
@1239jer The shot pattern evidence certainly supports a second shot after the midpoint between the first and third. Everyone said JFK reacted to the first shot. JBC and Nellie said JBC was hit on the second shot. Two SS agents, Hickey and Kinney saw JFK's hair fly up at the time of the second shot. Nellie said the second shot cause JBC to recoil. She immediately reached out and pulled him down. The driver SA Greer said he turned around upon hearing the second shot. Second shot: z272.
@Endeavour13 Everyone has a right to their opinion, including the right to state that someone else's opinion is crap. Are you actually suggesting that I have no right to criticize people who express bad arguments?
@Endeavour13 Ok, so there is no such thing as BS?? It's OK to declare that JFK was shot by little green men in a UFO, because everyone has a right to their opinion, not matter how idiotic it is??
I can't agree with that. IMO there is far more BS posted about this case than there is truth, and it comes from both sides of the debate.
connally's right wrist was shatterred by a bullet- according to the single bullet theory-he is hit by the same shot that hit kennedy- throat wound- yet connally has moved his stetson hat into his right hand- you can see him holding his stetson and turning to check on jfk- that be some magic bullet.
connally's right wrist was shatterred by a bullet- according to the single bullet theory-he is hit by the same shot that hit kennedy- throat wound- yet connally has moved his stetson hat into his right had- you can see him holding his stetson and turning to check on jfk- that be some magic bullet.
All this "over-analysis" plays into the hands of those who executed the cover-up of the assassination. The key fact that unravels the whole Warren Commission lie is simple-the Zapruder film CLEARLY shows that Kennedy was hit in the neck BEFORE Connally was hit such that the physical actions Connally takes AFTER realizing Kennedy was hit are physically impossible given the wounds Connally received when he was hit. This evidence renders the "magic bullet theory" a farce. A clear conspiracy!
All this "over-analysys plays into the hands of those who executed the cover-up of the assassination. The key fact that unravels the whole Warren Commission lie is simple-the Zapruder film CLEARLY shows that Kennedy was hit in the neck BEFORE Connally was hit such that the physical actions Connally takes AFTER realizing Kennedy was hit are physically impossible given the wounds Connally received when he was hit. This evidence renders the "magic bullet theory" a farce. A clear conspiracy!
So you're saying that believing Oswald's first bullet may have been diverted by a tree limb is more far-fetched than believing there was another shooter in the Dal-Tex building? You have no proof for your claim. Whereas I have shell casings.
Look at the film. JFK is hit before Connelly reacts. If Connelly had been hit. The hit that broke 2 ribs and shatterd his wrist. He couldn't have turned around in his seat. Let alone clutch a 12 lb. stetson in his hand. The film shows JFK is already clutching his throat as Connelly turns. Try turning 90 degrees with 2 broken ribs. Try lifting a 12 lb weight with a shatterd wrist.
@2ndRCHAret precisely the evidence which proves the "magic bullet theory" was a quack hoax perpetrated by a junior investigator with ZERO forensic training or gun-shot investigation knowledge-a forensic farce.
i noticed that at the moment or a second after jackie and mrs connally react to the gunshot.JFK's hair near his forehead flies up...maybe a missed shot? or could be the wind.just guessing
@markus2815 Very observant. JFK's hair flies up between z273 and z276. Just the hair on the right side of his head. SA Hickey, who was traveling in the SS car just behind said JFK's hair flew up on the second shot. SA Kinney, driving the car, saw something similar. So, according to the evidence, JFK's hair flies up on the second shot and that is the only place it flies up. And that means that everything Nellie recalled was right...go figure.
i think there were two shots because presedent kennedy covered his ears a couple seconds before he was shot. why would he randomley cover his ears for no reason
What I find interesting is that Robert "Tosh" Plumlee, who was a contract CIA pilot, admits that he flew Johnny Roselli into Dallas the morning of the assassination on a MATS (Military Air Transport Service) flight. One of the heads of the mafia being flown into Dallas on 11/22/63 hours before the shooting on a private government flight? Smells like conspiracy spirit to me. Nobody ever addresses this?
Over twenty witnesses stated that after the first shot the limosine "stopped" until after the fatal head shot before proceeding at an increasing speed. Those witness are named and quoted by Vince Palamara (google "JFK car stopped after first shot"), along with half a dozen witnesses who say the car slowed down after the first shot. The fact that the Zapruder film does not show this stop (Zupruder never stopped filming) is proof the film was altered, thus proof of a government conspiracy.
The main thing is, the SS agents saw that president was in distress and everyone heard a shot, so you would think that they would have put the pedal to the metel! One of the wives would have gotten hit however. Not to mention front car damage that the SS agetns should have experienced.
I always think it's funny about "backfires". You'd think a vehicle couldn't run back then without backfiring all over the place, Harleys especially evidently. I don't remember it being that way.
Governor Connally stated " I heard a shot, I was not hit. Then I was hit". The second or third shot hit Governor Connnally. President Kennedy had already been hit in his throat, a shot from the front. The shot that hit John Connally had to have come from the rear high and above; TSBD 6th floor.
Will Greer mash the brake pedal and held for more than 2 to three seconds. Kellerman remained completely stationary, except for a slight leaning forward. Clint Hill made his move @
@1THETRUTH10 Clint Hill was Secret Serviceman assigned to protect the first lady only. Kennedy could have been actually hit 2 tiimes, one entrance would in the throat, the second from high and above in his back. Governor Connally was then hit with a seperate bullet, from high and above. Theres no telling actually how many rifles that were in the plaza that day, not all with a clear target or able to. Not all professional assasins recruited. I.E connally wounded unecessarily.
@KNIGHTxPILOT I know how crazy it gets people do not realise that this discredits the genuine search for the cover up. Look at his left arm it does not lead to the HEAD/GUN.
@bobharris77 : Bob, after reviewing your videos, etc., all I can say is that, while I don't agree with all of your conclusions, I respect your research and skepticism. Keep up the good work, my man.
Bob, when you made your calculations regarding the trajectory of the 'missed' shot that struck the curb near Taque, did you calculate into these figures the drop in elevation that presents it self at this point in the road?
I believe this shot to be one of the most important aspects of the shootings. This trajectory can be traced more accurately back to the origin, than the others. Due in part to the extended points of impact and the intended target, i.e. JFK's head.
@bobharris77 Hi ! Bob, looks like you are looking for answers like myself, What I find very surprising is that the media never mention JFK been hit in the neck right after the sign and being pushed "VIOLENTLY" against the seat, proving a front shot and proving conspiracy. Have you ever heard notice that ? Another proof is at clip Badge Man at Grassy Knoll at 5:04(top right) A cowboy hat a face shape a rifle held by another man with a hat. Do you know an expert who can analyse this image ? HELP.
@3XXKeturah do u think its that simple ? It was thought to be an entry wound for a moment but not in conclusion by the doctors . Read "Reclaiming History" by an investigater that was there, and researched every fact in the case.
At frame 242 I see Kennedy reacting to his wound in the throat. Connally is starting to turn towards Kennedy. He is still holding his stetson in his right hand. A pretty remarkable feat for a man that has just had his radius shatterd by a bullett. Also he continues turning to the right even though his right rib has just been broken by the same bullett that will shatter his wrist ?. He sure is moving around alot for a guy that has just recieved 5 holes in his body.
maybe the driver slowed the car cuz thats usually what happens when something bizzare happens behind u, you slow down and turn your head, then when he realized "oh shit its the president" he sped back up. .....just a natural reaction i think
The bullet going in to his neck was an entry wound from the back not the front. You can see in the autopsy photos the small entry on his back, and the large exit wound on his throat.
@MrOzcap14 Looks more like a tracheotomy than an exit wound to me. But hey, what do all the doctors and nurses who where at the autopsy know. I'll just believe you.
@PhoenixAssassin999 Any one knows that an entry wound is small and an exit wound is large, look at the autopsy photos of the back and you will see that THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THAT THE WOUND IN THE BACK IS AN EXIT WOUND!
@PhoenixAssassin999 What nurses at the autopsy? The fictional autopsy in your head, where someone who had never conducted a gunshot autopsy in his life, violated common autopsy procedures and burned his notes later? THAT autopsy?
I mean, if you're going to point to doctors and nurses, why not the gunshot trauma experts at Parkland Memorial, who saw JFK minutes after the shots, and UNANIMOUSLY called the throat wound an entry wound, and the occipital wound an exit wound? There were more of them.
@MrOzcap14 Nonsense, the neck shot came from the front. all the Parkland Dr's. said so. It was enlarged a little to do the tracheotomy but was really opened up to get the bullet out before the autopsy. Google the videos "Jfk-Case For Conspiracy I" and "JFK 2" .
@sargoth37 How about actually making your own oppinion rather than copying someone else, look at the autopsy photos and you will see that on JFK'S back there is a small entry wound.
@MrOzcap14 Yes he was shot in the back and the front of his neck. Neither shot exited him. The back shot didn't penetrate deeply and was pushed out when he was given heart massage. The neck shot was enlarged before he reached Bethesda to remove the bullet. Look at the Youtube video "JFK-Lifton: Bullets Removed" Any other questions?
@MrOzcap14 Says...Oh yeah, the Navy doctor who had never done a gunshot autopsy in his life, 6 hours after the assassination.
According to ALL the expert witnesses who saw JFK minutes after the shooting, it was a small neat round hole of entry, widened slightly for a tracheotomy. The Dallas doctors ALL also said the massive wound in the back of his head was a blown-out exit wound with an entrance wound in his right front temple.
I guess they were all lying? Incompetent? Part of a conspiracy?
Mr Harris, you have certainly one of the best series on this topic on youtube. I also like to watch kens167's work with all the calculations of the shots, timing and distances. You two have a very good way of presenting this interesting mysterie. Keep up the good work.
Mr Harris, you have certainly one of the best series on this topic on youtube. I also like to watch kens167's work with all the calculations of the shots, timing and distances. You two have a very good way of presenting this interesting mysterie. Keep up the good work.
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Mary Moorman and Jean Hill stepped INTO THE ROAD at this time, calling out to Jackie and JFK to look their way. MM then snapped the polaroid headshot, which revealed the uniformed rifleman – and others on the knoll incl witness Arnold. See video, The Men Who Killed Kennedy. The irrefutable geometry is well-explained by White (Great Zapruder Film Hoax). It confirms Moorman had to have stepped DOWN several inches into the road to have achieved her particular camera angle vis à vis the Z pedestal.
The SPEED of head-turns of driver Greer and the child’s movements are beyond human capacity, confirming REMOVAL of numerous frames. This technique obscures the fact affirmed by close eye-witnesses, that the limo completely stopped for a second or two for the headshots at the foot of the knoll, a predetermined killzone.
Similarly, Nix states (see video interview) removal of frames since his film was in the hands of the FBI; and it shows the same composite interference.
@3XXKeturah BS! I tested that theory myself in 1999, being filmed with a camcorder running at 30 fps. His second turn was fast but I was able to match it.
And MOST witnesses said the limo slowed down, just as it appears in the Zapruder film. Dr. Luis Alvarez determined that its speed dropped from 12 mph to 8 mph, by looking solely at the Zapruder film. It matched perfectly with what the large majority of witnesses claimed.
@bobharris77 Bob, it seems to me that I've seen video evidence of the limo's brakelights coming on immediately prior to the headshot. What do you make of Greer's statement that he did not witness the fatal headshot, when the Z-film clearly shows he did? And why didn't Kellerman take any action, even though his sworn duty was to use his body as a shield for the president?
I've watched most of your vids, and agree with most of what you posit, but not quite all of it.
@Dogheadj Bob, here is the clip I may have been thinking of. Although you can't see brakelights, you can definitely see the limo slowing down for the headshot.
@Dogheadj Yep, you're damn right. He (Greer) might not have even gotten a ticket if that had been a stop-sign instead of a designated kill-zone. I thought, well maybe he stopped (or damn near) because Jackie was on the trunk but she doesn't climb out until after he starts speeding away. I just can't believe that any ss driver would slow down or stop in such a situation unless it was ordered. He later said he was startled by a gunshot and accidentally hit the brakes but he's a ss driver! wtf.
Bob, Saying something is "wrong" does not prove it to be so. Of many proofs of alteration, note that geometry between the 14 foot lamp posts and the woman on the lawn beyond Elm shows her to be just under 7 feet tall in the “Zapruder” film, though she's identified and known to be around 5 feet.
Likewise, see for yourself: all southside bystanders and objects are 30% too large, confirming the Z film to be an ALTERED COMPOSITE. Ref. White’s The Great Zapruder Film Hoax, amongst others.
@bobharris77 With the last 2 shots being bunched together, then you do belive there was more than one gun man I take it? Also we cant discount witness evidence of shots coming from the Knoll can we? Also what is your view on badge man...would e intrested in your opinion.
@bobharris77 Actually the Badgemen is not BS. The only agency which could create SS badges was CIA. Bush Sr was at Bay of Pigs at his oil platform Zapata Oil during the invasion. He was in front of the Book Depository. He was called in by J Edgar Hoover. Bush Sr was also the CIA Director assassinating every witness including his friend the owner of the Book Depository at the Congressional Hearing. The shot also went up, back and left. Came from the storm drain.
@3XXKeturah If you look closely at the motion of Connally, specifically his hat, as the limo emerges from behind the road sign, you can see an obvious rapid 'jogging' of the hat. This motion is most suspicious to me and indicates an alteration of framing of one kind or another.
@3XXKeturah I agree with u 100%....the zapruder film is a hoax.however there is a larger question. the government confisicated all film evidence,by ALL bystanders that they KNEW of and Disposed of it,or made a attempt to Falsify it,why ALLOW the zapruder film to see the light of day???. they could have disposed of "JFK" quietly,just like they did Roosevelt and his kid "John John" why a public execution???.
@3XXKeturah I've seen the vids by the alterationists and every one of them are wrong on every issue they raise. It's infuriating that these people exploit the case and undermine the credibility of legitimate researchers.
No matter how many times we discount the SBT, brainwashed humans are incapable of ridding themselves of the "official story" because mother is never wrong. It is a psychological fact that people will always believe the first thing they are told by an authority figure no matter how many times those facts are completely discounted or refuted. its called the discounting cue affect and it is widely used by biz ,media and govts.
As I have said before, consider this, the WC claims a single bullet, retrieved in near perfect condition, caused wounds in both JFK and Gov Connally, yet the head shot bullet exploded JFK's head on impact, with only fragments found, same batch of bullets.
You know what amazes me? All along the parade route, people are lined up between 10 and 20 deep, shoulder to shoulder, except at this part of the Motorcade. Where are all the people at?
@flomoose1 No parade or motorcade went that way before, and the papers published an alternate route, so many people did not know the car would turn unto Elm Street where the ambush occurred.
Hey Bob, I noticed that towards the beeginning of the video, you show the Zapruder film, and it is zoomed in quite a bit, and the quality is really good for being that close. Any chance you can share how you got the quality that well? I'd really like to watch the whole Zapruder film in that zoom and quality.
@BavisTrickle why wouldn't oswald shoot JFK when we went by the window ??? You mean to tell me --- he waits till he's 300 feet beyond him? With a $6 dollar world war 1 rifle ? Think about how little sense that makes.
@nbkid This is the best point to the whole thing. When Kenedy is on Houston right before the turn onto Elm. The SBD would have been the best view for a shooter. There would have been only one shot. That turn onto Elm is really strange...
Now, if you watch the movements of ALL the people in the limo, clearly SOMETHING happens because ALL OF THEM REACT: JFK falls slightly left, J Connally falls back toward his wife, the women look at their husbands, Kellerman turns to face forward, and Greer turns back to look at JFK.
That everyone in the limo reacted screams that there WAS a shot at that moment ---------- but it missed.
Mrs. Connally's recollections have been proven to be off. Just listen to her talk about the configuration of the motorcade cars - saying LBJ was in the car directly behind the the SS when, obviously that was not true.
LBJ hired me, a circus clown and master of disguises. I impersonated a Dallas motorcycle cop and did the head shot through a hole in the wooden fence next to the grassy knoll, then dissappeared, living in Argentina with Dr. Mengela and a cloned Hitler boy who lost his virginity to my teenage Mexican wife. I have only recently returned to the USA to plan 911 for Bush. Atta was a real card with us loving Thai strippers in a South Beach club.
Bob, I've watched. I just can't tie her words to her actions. I believe, like you, that as far as when her husband was hit, she was mistaken. John Connally was clearly hit before Nellie knew that he was.
I just haven't seen enough to make me say without a doubt that the occupants in the limo all react to a shot at Z-285.
Bob, I have no way of knowing exactly when it was that Nellie thought she heard the shot. Neither do you. We're talking about a period of about 4 seconds roughly. I don't believe in dissecting her testimony down to the precise level that she never intended her words to be taken to.
@bbrown222 "Bob, I have no way of knowing exactly when it was that Nellie thought she heard the shot. Neither do you."
Really? Then you need to get a copy of the Zapruder film and a copy of her testimony before the WC, because she told us when she heard that shot and any idiot can see when she turned back to her husband and pulled him back to her.
But most of all, you need to get some integrity, Bill.
Kellerman actions don't look right for a SSA. He isn't concerned enought. Only giving one very quick look over his left shoulder. Turning around only far enought to see Mrs Connely for a micro secound and then facing squarely forward never to turn around again.The brakes jerk the car not even a flinch. No secound look back. It's like he was expecting all this to happen. He is trained to give his life to protect JFK but hear's gun shot's and can't even look at JFK to see if he is hit.
True dat Dinkey. Very suspicious. Look at how fast the SSA jumped up and between Reagan and Hinkley. Guess that's the difference between a Rep. and Dem. or Bohemian club member and non member.
that part bothered me, too. then again, all of JFK's secret service stepped away from the him right before the shooting and played it off like they were told to step away from him on the radio or somethin. it is all CIA... this, martin luther king, oswald, sept 11, all similar styles of killings. people who arent guilty are blamed each time...
The initial pain and anguish on Connally's face that Bob attributes to a shot hitting Connally could simply be Connally's anguish over his realizing that JFK was shot. Seems more likely that the recollection of Mr. & Mrs. Connally is accurate, that the governor was hit by a subsequent shot, not the same bullet that penetrated JFK's neck and throat.
Really, then why he said that when he turned to see JFK, the president was already hit, holding his throat and then he felt the shot that hit himself?
I mean, you have Connally's interview to your right, supporting what Mrs. Connally said!
Watch it, he clearly states that moments before he was hit, he heard a shot then he turned to his right and the president had slumped, then he turned to his left and he himself was hit, that states that the president was already hit!
Connally was still in his hospital bed and undoubtedly, a bit groggy when he claimed he turned to his left and saw JFK. But it is obvious in the Zfilm that he never did that. He turned to his right, but not far enough to see JFK.
He later corrected his statement and admitted that he turned right and never saw JFK. Watch this video from 1964 beginning at about 3:00
Very well done. This kind of analysis is crucial to discovering truth. Combine this research with the CIA detail being called to stand down as the motorcade enters the plaza, and you get some interesting questions.
One question I've always had was why the last-minute schedule change (if indeed there was one). And if there was a schedule change, how did anyone on the outside know about it to arrange such a collection of shooters?
@mikinmontague The timing of the visit, the motorcade route (with help from Dallas Mayor Earl Cabell) and motorcade destination were all arranged by LBJ through his cohort, John Connally, who threatened to call off the whole trip if the White House didn't submit to his demands as to destination - thus motocade route. (reference: "LBJ - The Mastermind of JFK's Assassination", pub 2010, by Phillip F. Nelson).
It's all second-party hindsight (meaning for us), but the confusion taking place within the vehicle; the utter uncertainty of whether or not they heard what they thought was a shot fired, or if there actually was a shot fired -- no one had time to react by hitting the deck ... diving to the floor of the car. My God it all happened so damned fast. By the time they could have reacted -- after that first misfire, JKF was hit and wounded.
LBJ you son of a bitch! Yes, I think he planned it all!
SIMULTANEOUS means happening at the exact same time. If the shots occurred one right after the other they were fired CONSECUTIVELY not simultaneously.
Lucky thing for the team of assassins assembled at Dealy Plaza that JFK wasn't earlier called away from the parade route by some pressing event or that it wasn't raining or that JFK was sitting on the right. Lucky for Jackie that the shooter in the grassy knoll was so accurate, otherwise she might've been hit as well. Months in the planning by the CIA, the mafia and the FBI and JFK's car arrived at Lee Harvey's place of employment just as envisioned. ba da bing...
@bailinnumberguy Not luck at all. This was only the third time they set up this same arrangement. First time three weeks earlier in Chicago complete with a set up ex-marine "patsy", Thomas Author Vallee. Second set up was two weeks earlier in Miami, both motorcades cancelled because of leaks (in Chicago the tip came from a man named "Lee"). Both previous setups involved high rise sharpshooters with telescopic sights during a presidential motorcade. Three's the charm!
At the point you put the yellow identifying circle around Mrs. Connelly (around 1:33), you'll notice that Gov. Connelly is still holding onto his hat, which would've been impossible for him to do if the bullet had already hit his wrist. There's also no blood on his cuff, either. So it looks like Mrs. Connelly (who was in the car) is right in her recollection of events, and you (who were not in the car) are wrong.
Connally is still clutching his hat after Zapruder frame 320, and well after the explosion of the President's head. Is it your belief that Connally has not been wounded by that point?
We can see blood on his wrist, long before that, although it took a second or two before it could be seen in the film.
People hold onto things with worse wounds then that. I know a guy who served in Nam who lost his arm. His hand was still holding onto a grenade he had been preparing.
Someone tell BOB to contact me so I can show him how unsound his "proof" is and people please do your own research because this guy is 1 of the cronies who is still trying to keep this cover-up. Just watch this one video "The men who killed Kennedy, The Final Chapter" or "Who Killed JFK" or "Was it Johnson" or any related vids. They are all damning but the JOhnson one is especially to him.
Okay narrator, answer this-How come every medical personnel and eyewitness to JFK's head wound said it was a gaping hole to the occipital/parietal (or as some said directly above the back portion of the right ear? -and- How come the autopsy photos don't show this? THey show no gaping hole to the rear but only an entry wound? Also, why did every medical person say that the neck wound in the front and forehead wound were BOTH ENTRY wounds? You can see the wound in many films that day.
Where is Mary Morman`s Video? It looks like she`s taping and facing the grassy knoll. We always hear for the Z film but a lass he had his back to the greassy knoll.
The Warren Commission did little in regards to investigating the Secret Service protection of the President. I saw JFK in 1962 when he visited Berkeley. His Limo was 5th or 6th in line and went by SO FAST w/agents on the rear bumpers. Watch JFK - Secret Service here on you tube as the two agents are called off just as they were leaving Love Field.
are secret service drivers not trained to put their foot on the gas in the event of fire? surely he should also have an earpiece connecting him with the head of the detail in the car behind? kellerman doesnt seem to react at all, surely he should have pulled out a machine gun and sprayed the picket fence of the grassy knoll? bunch of amateurs
The driver did NOT shoot Kennedy! Kennedy's head snaps back and to the left indicating a shot from the right front. i.e. the Grassy Knoll. I don't see anyone with a gun in the car!
I dont know what you all see here ...I,m not an expert on the subject ,but it seems evident the driver pulled a gun just as his co-driver raises his left hand ,,then shoots the president and drops the gun very fast ,,,it was well coregraphed...
i dont know man , im not sure , but i know the driver is guilty of something ...If the systeme wasnt so corrupted , Greer would have been the first suspect and not Oswald . I think we can all agree on that .
Have you watched the JFK - Secret Service video here on you tube? The one where the two agents running along side the limo were called away as they were leaving Love Field? The one who throws his hands up said it was the first time in 7 years, or something like that, he was called off his post !!!
O-yeah saw that one, the one where LBJ has the car cleaned out of all evidence "oops we weren't supposed to do that?" , the bullet hole in the windshield, The dallas doc's saying big hole back of head , LBJ's hitmans fingerprint on the box in TSBD , the sound evidence indicating more than 3 shots ect.. I would say this case should be re-opened.
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SUSSTURUCU 1 month ago
Hey Buddy, Connolly said he was hit after the president. You are probably unaware that a small team of video experts and Professors studied the film and concluded it was altered. Go to Zapruder film hoax .com.
66ott7 1 month ago
given your assumptions, would it not be simpler for LHO to hit JFK with shot 1, then bystander with shot 2, then Connolly with shot 3?
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
In The Motorcade .not at the motorcade , it was announced live .. There Has been a Shooting in The motorcade !!!
TrafficKAPOWfan 5 months ago
Lmao , all films have been altered by the CIA and cannot b trusted to do proper Analasis , voodoo film Analasis ? At the time of the killing it was announced live , verbatim . There has been a shooting in the motorcade !!!
TrafficKAPOWfan 5 months ago
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cruisersism 5 months ago
One other point here, Bob. BTW, you are the most intellectually honest pro-conspiracy person I've encountered here.
Anyway, another reason I have my doubts is the nature of the reactions. As u know, many suppose a shot occurred at Z160 on the basis of a common reaction whereby many turn to the right. But Z285 is different. Most are turning towards JFK, not the direction of the alleged shot. Which suggest a sound came from JFK himself.
1239jer 6 months ago
@1239jer I noticed the same. Of course Mrs. Kennedy was vocal at that point I think. Nevertheless it is consistent with hearing a sound from the left and turning to look at the president.
DCUPtoejuice 3 months ago
Further, while Nellie's statements may make 285 seem possible, John's statements don't support it. Jean Hill's head movement was likely a smooth one, the grain makes this difficult to discern, plus it doesn't seem likely that she'd only "notice" the limo once she heard a loud sound. We'd expect her eyes to be glued on the president. Does she do a similar movement in Nix? Jackie - seems to react to something from JFK, rather that something external.
1239jer 6 months ago
I was directed here by the post Bob made in the short clip of the Zap film re 285. Here as there, I will note that reactions don't prove anything, even if they seem to match some witness accounts. I mean, You argue Nellie sees JFK, then pulls John in when she mistakenly thot a 285 shot struck him, it looks more like he was falling into her and thot the 313 shot (which happened just as she was pulling him in) was THAT shot.
1239jer 6 months ago
@1239jer The shot pattern evidence certainly supports a second shot after the midpoint between the first and third. Everyone said JFK reacted to the first shot. JBC and Nellie said JBC was hit on the second shot. Two SS agents, Hickey and Kinney saw JFK's hair fly up at the time of the second shot. Nellie said the second shot cause JBC to recoil. She immediately reached out and pulled him down. The driver SA Greer said he turned around upon hearing the second shot. Second shot: z272.
amasonsk1 2 months ago
@Endeavour13 Everyone has a right to their opinion, including the right to state that someone else's opinion is crap. Are you actually suggesting that I have no right to criticize people who express bad arguments?
Cosmosity 6 months ago
@Endeavour13 BTW, this is bobharris77. I'm posting from my alternate account today.
Cosmosity 6 months ago
@Endeavour13 Ok, so there is no such thing as BS?? It's OK to declare that JFK was shot by little green men in a UFO, because everyone has a right to their opinion, not matter how idiotic it is??
I can't agree with that. IMO there is far more BS posted about this case than there is truth, and it comes from both sides of the debate.
Cosmosity 6 months ago
connally's right wrist was shatterred by a bullet- according to the single bullet theory-he is hit by the same shot that hit kennedy- throat wound- yet connally has moved his stetson hat into his right hand- you can see him holding his stetson and turning to check on jfk- that be some magic bullet.
larrywheels 8 months ago
connally's right wrist was shatterred by a bullet- according to the single bullet theory-he is hit by the same shot that hit kennedy- throat wound- yet connally has moved his stetson hat into his right had- you can see him holding his stetson and turning to check on jfk- that be some magic bullet.
larrywheels 8 months ago
All this "over-analysis" plays into the hands of those who executed the cover-up of the assassination. The key fact that unravels the whole Warren Commission lie is simple-the Zapruder film CLEARLY shows that Kennedy was hit in the neck BEFORE Connally was hit such that the physical actions Connally takes AFTER realizing Kennedy was hit are physically impossible given the wounds Connally received when he was hit. This evidence renders the "magic bullet theory" a farce. A clear conspiracy!
dougalmac54 8 months ago
@dougalmac54 really bro? it happened within 2 frames. That's less than a second. You don't know shit
Lashazior 8 months ago
All this "over-analysys plays into the hands of those who executed the cover-up of the assassination. The key fact that unravels the whole Warren Commission lie is simple-the Zapruder film CLEARLY shows that Kennedy was hit in the neck BEFORE Connally was hit such that the physical actions Connally takes AFTER realizing Kennedy was hit are physically impossible given the wounds Connally received when he was hit. This evidence renders the "magic bullet theory" a farce. A clear conspiracy!
dougalmac54 8 months ago
If I were planing a atack such as this ,I would be able to get many good shots from many different angles on account of the lack of protection.
nickcruz455 9 months ago
So you're saying that believing Oswald's first bullet may have been diverted by a tree limb is more far-fetched than believing there was another shooter in the Dal-Tex building? You have no proof for your claim. Whereas I have shell casings.
Moralityman 10 months ago
@Moralityman Shell casings? LOL. Lined up perfectly in a row on the floor. Get real man, you're deluded with this nonsense.
dougalmac54 8 months ago
Look at the film. JFK is hit before Connelly reacts. If Connelly had been hit. The hit that broke 2 ribs and shatterd his wrist. He couldn't have turned around in his seat. Let alone clutch a 12 lb. stetson in his hand. The film shows JFK is already clutching his throat as Connelly turns. Try turning 90 degrees with 2 broken ribs. Try lifting a 12 lb weight with a shatterd wrist.
2ndRCHAret 10 months ago
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AlphaTeamGoatShit 10 months ago
@AlphaTeamGoatShit Pure nonsense!
dougalmac54 8 months ago
@2ndRCHAret precisely the evidence which proves the "magic bullet theory" was a quack hoax perpetrated by a junior investigator with ZERO forensic training or gun-shot investigation knowledge-a forensic farce.
dougalmac54 8 months ago
Watch Muchmore film. Watch man in red shirt, with
two others on knoll steps pull out gun and fire.
frankzakzak 11 months ago
i noticed that at the moment or a second after jackie and mrs connally react to the gunshot.JFK's hair near his forehead flies up...maybe a missed shot? or could be the wind.just guessing
markus2815 11 months ago
@markus2815 Very observant. JFK's hair flies up between z273 and z276. Just the hair on the right side of his head. SA Hickey, who was traveling in the SS car just behind said JFK's hair flew up on the second shot. SA Kinney, driving the car, saw something similar. So, according to the evidence, JFK's hair flies up on the second shot and that is the only place it flies up. And that means that everything Nellie recalled was right...go figure.
amasonsk1 2 months ago
i think there were two shots because presedent kennedy covered his ears a couple seconds before he was shot. why would he randomley cover his ears for no reason
jesusisALL17 11 months ago
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What I find interesting is that Robert "Tosh" Plumlee, who was a contract CIA pilot, admits that he flew Johnny Roselli into Dallas the morning of the assassination on a MATS (Military Air Transport Service) flight. One of the heads of the mafia being flown into Dallas on 11/22/63 hours before the shooting on a private government flight? Smells like conspiracy spirit to me. Nobody ever addresses this?
ElevenMileRecords 11 months ago
Over twenty witnesses stated that after the first shot the limosine "stopped" until after the fatal head shot before proceeding at an increasing speed. Those witness are named and quoted by Vince Palamara (google "JFK car stopped after first shot"), along with half a dozen witnesses who say the car slowed down after the first shot. The fact that the Zapruder film does not show this stop (Zupruder never stopped filming) is proof the film was altered, thus proof of a government conspiracy.
dbmyers2 1 year ago
I think it's more important to realize the enemies that Kennedys had, they are still in charge and we are paying for it still.
MrROTD 1 year ago
The main thing is, the SS agents saw that president was in distress and everyone heard a shot, so you would think that they would have put the pedal to the metel! One of the wives would have gotten hit however. Not to mention front car damage that the SS agetns should have experienced.
n0gar 1 year ago
pretty good work
Zardoz1977 1 year ago
I always think it's funny about "backfires". You'd think a vehicle couldn't run back then without backfiring all over the place, Harleys especially evidently. I don't remember it being that way.
Smokie1960 1 year ago
I'm confused, was President Kenedy already shot before he died?
kingfrubby1 1 year ago
Why,when the shot came from the rear did the brain matter fly off on to the trunk area,completely in the opposite direction?
landis444 1 year ago
yo man that was a good watch, people deserve to know the truth
greyfox5000 1 year ago
Governor Connally stated " I heard a shot, I was not hit. Then I was hit". The second or third shot hit Governor Connnally. President Kennedy had already been hit in his throat, a shot from the front. The shot that hit John Connally had to have come from the rear high and above; TSBD 6th floor.
Will Greer mash the brake pedal and held for more than 2 to three seconds. Kellerman remained completely stationary, except for a slight leaning forward. Clint Hill made his move @
signalcorp4 1 year ago
@signalcorp4 Whos clint hill?
1THETRUTH10 1 year ago
@1THETRUTH10 Clint Hill was Secret Serviceman assigned to protect the first lady only. Kennedy could have been actually hit 2 tiimes, one entrance would in the throat, the second from high and above in his back. Governor Connally was then hit with a seperate bullet, from high and above. Theres no telling actually how many rifles that were in the plaza that day, not all with a clear target or able to. Not all professional assasins recruited. I.E connally wounded unecessarily.
signalcorp4 1 year ago
@KNIGHTxPILOT I know how crazy it gets people do not realise that this discredits the genuine search for the cover up. Look at his left arm it does not lead to the HEAD/GUN.
UNIQUE1982 1 year ago
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@bobharris77 : Bob, after reviewing your videos, etc., all I can say is that, while I don't agree with all of your conclusions, I respect your research and skepticism. Keep up the good work, my man.
Dogheadj 1 year ago
Bob, when you made your calculations regarding the trajectory of the 'missed' shot that struck the curb near Taque, did you calculate into these figures the drop in elevation that presents it self at this point in the road?
I believe this shot to be one of the most important aspects of the shootings. This trajectory can be traced more accurately back to the origin, than the others. Due in part to the extended points of impact and the intended target, i.e. JFK's head.
kanukster 1 year ago
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@kanukster : Take a look at a shot (or more) from the Dal-Tex building. I find it to be credible.
Dogheadj 1 year ago
@bobharris77 Hi ! Bob, looks like you are looking for answers like myself, What I find very surprising is that the media never mention JFK been hit in the neck right after the sign and being pushed "VIOLENTLY" against the seat, proving a front shot and proving conspiracy. Have you ever heard notice that ? Another proof is at clip Badge Man at Grassy Knoll at 5:04(top right) A cowboy hat a face shape a rifle held by another man with a hat. Do you know an expert who can analyse this image ? HELP.
Verdelufe 1 year ago
@3XXKeturah do u think its that simple ? It was thought to be an entry wound for a moment but not in conclusion by the doctors . Read "Reclaiming History" by an investigater that was there, and researched every fact in the case.
baseballeddie1177 1 year ago
At frame 242 I see Kennedy reacting to his wound in the throat. Connally is starting to turn towards Kennedy. He is still holding his stetson in his right hand. A pretty remarkable feat for a man that has just had his radius shatterd by a bullett. Also he continues turning to the right even though his right rib has just been broken by the same bullett that will shatter his wrist ?. He sure is moving around alot for a guy that has just recieved 5 holes in his body.
2ndRCHAret 1 year ago
maybe the driver slowed the car cuz thats usually what happens when something bizzare happens behind u, you slow down and turn your head, then when he realized "oh shit its the president" he sped back up. .....just a natural reaction i think
LiftAngry 1 year ago
The bullet going in to his neck was an entry wound from the back not the front. You can see in the autopsy photos the small entry on his back, and the large exit wound on his throat.
MrOzcap14 1 year ago
@MrOzcap14 Looks more like a tracheotomy than an exit wound to me. But hey, what do all the doctors and nurses who where at the autopsy know. I'll just believe you.
PhoenixAssassin999 1 year ago
@PhoenixAssassin999 Any one knows that an entry wound is small and an exit wound is large, look at the autopsy photos of the back and you will see that THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THAT THE WOUND IN THE BACK IS AN EXIT WOUND!
MrOzcap14 1 year ago
@PhoenixAssassin999 What nurses at the autopsy? The fictional autopsy in your head, where someone who had never conducted a gunshot autopsy in his life, violated common autopsy procedures and burned his notes later? THAT autopsy?
I mean, if you're going to point to doctors and nurses, why not the gunshot trauma experts at Parkland Memorial, who saw JFK minutes after the shots, and UNANIMOUSLY called the throat wound an entry wound, and the occipital wound an exit wound? There were more of them.
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
@MrOzcap14 Nonsense, the neck shot came from the front. all the Parkland Dr's. said so. It was enlarged a little to do the tracheotomy but was really opened up to get the bullet out before the autopsy. Google the videos "Jfk-Case For Conspiracy I" and "JFK 2" .
sargoth37 1 year ago
@sargoth37 How about actually making your own oppinion rather than copying someone else, look at the autopsy photos and you will see that on JFK'S back there is a small entry wound.
MrOzcap14 1 year ago
@MrOzcap14 Yes he was shot in the back and the front of his neck. Neither shot exited him. The back shot didn't penetrate deeply and was pushed out when he was given heart massage. The neck shot was enlarged before he reached Bethesda to remove the bullet. Look at the Youtube video "JFK-Lifton: Bullets Removed" Any other questions?
sargoth37 1 year ago
@MrOzcap14 Says...Oh yeah, the Navy doctor who had never done a gunshot autopsy in his life, 6 hours after the assassination.
According to ALL the expert witnesses who saw JFK minutes after the shooting, it was a small neat round hole of entry, widened slightly for a tracheotomy. The Dallas doctors ALL also said the massive wound in the back of his head was a blown-out exit wound with an entrance wound in his right front temple.
I guess they were all lying? Incompetent? Part of a conspiracy?
OneVoiceMore 1 year ago
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Mr Harris, you have certainly one of the best series on this topic on youtube. I also like to watch kens167's work with all the calculations of the shots, timing and distances. You two have a very good way of presenting this interesting mysterie. Keep up the good work.
ricotermonen 1 year ago
Mr Harris, you have certainly one of the best series on this topic on youtube. I also like to watch kens167's work with all the calculations of the shots, timing and distances. You two have a very good way of presenting this interesting mysterie. Keep up the good work.
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exposetruthwolf 1 year ago
Mary Moorman and Jean Hill stepped INTO THE ROAD at this time, calling out to Jackie and JFK to look their way. MM then snapped the polaroid headshot, which revealed the uniformed rifleman – and others on the knoll incl witness Arnold. See video, The Men Who Killed Kennedy. The irrefutable geometry is well-explained by White (Great Zapruder Film Hoax). It confirms Moorman had to have stepped DOWN several inches into the road to have achieved her particular camera angle vis à vis the Z pedestal.
3XXKeturah 1 year ago
The SPEED of head-turns of driver Greer and the child’s movements are beyond human capacity, confirming REMOVAL of numerous frames. This technique obscures the fact affirmed by close eye-witnesses, that the limo completely stopped for a second or two for the headshots at the foot of the knoll, a predetermined killzone.
Similarly, Nix states (see video interview) removal of frames since his film was in the hands of the FBI; and it shows the same composite interference.
3XXKeturah 1 year ago 4
@3XXKeturah BS! I tested that theory myself in 1999, being filmed with a camcorder running at 30 fps. His second turn was fast but I was able to match it.
And MOST witnesses said the limo slowed down, just as it appears in the Zapruder film. Dr. Luis Alvarez determined that its speed dropped from 12 mph to 8 mph, by looking solely at the Zapruder film. It matched perfectly with what the large majority of witnesses claimed.
bobharris77 1 year ago
@bobharris77 Bob, it seems to me that I've seen video evidence of the limo's brakelights coming on immediately prior to the headshot. What do you make of Greer's statement that he did not witness the fatal headshot, when the Z-film clearly shows he did? And why didn't Kellerman take any action, even though his sworn duty was to use his body as a shield for the president?
I've watched most of your vids, and agree with most of what you posit, but not quite all of it.
Dogheadj 1 year ago
@Dogheadj Bob, here is the clip I may have been thinking of. Although you can't see brakelights, you can definitely see the limo slowing down for the headshot.
watch?v=0e5I-OL5Wpw&feature=related
Dogheadj 1 year ago
@Dogheadj Yep, you're damn right. He (Greer) might not have even gotten a ticket if that had been a stop-sign instead of a designated kill-zone. I thought, well maybe he stopped (or damn near) because Jackie was on the trunk but she doesn't climb out until after he starts speeding away. I just can't believe that any ss driver would slow down or stop in such a situation unless it was ordered. He later said he was startled by a gunshot and accidentally hit the brakes but he's a ss driver! wtf.
rgs11 1 year ago
Bob, Saying something is "wrong" does not prove it to be so. Of many proofs of alteration, note that geometry between the 14 foot lamp posts and the woman on the lawn beyond Elm shows her to be just under 7 feet tall in the “Zapruder” film, though she's identified and known to be around 5 feet.
Likewise, see for yourself: all southside bystanders and objects are 30% too large, confirming the Z film to be an ALTERED COMPOSITE. Ref. White’s The Great Zapruder Film Hoax, amongst others.
3XXKeturah 1 year ago 3
@3XXKeturah BS!! Show me the measurements and the math which proves she appeared to be 7 feet tall.
Oh damn! Jack White forgot to mention that, didn't he?!
And he also forgot to give you his proof that the objects were 30% too large, didn't he?
Well guess what? If you ask him about that in the Ed forum he will pretend you don't exist. So will Fetzer.
He and his buds just made all that up. They couldn't prove it to save their lives. Just ask them:-)
bobharris77 1 year ago 3
@bobharris77 With the last 2 shots being bunched together, then you do belive there was more than one gun man I take it? Also we cant discount witness evidence of shots coming from the Knoll can we? Also what is your view on badge man...would e intrested in your opinion.
1THETRUTH10 1 year ago
@1THETRUTH10 Yes, of course there was more than one sniper involved. The "badgemen" thing is pure BS however.
bobharris77 1 year ago
@bobharris77 Actually the Badgemen is not BS. The only agency which could create SS badges was CIA. Bush Sr was at Bay of Pigs at his oil platform Zapata Oil during the invasion. He was in front of the Book Depository. He was called in by J Edgar Hoover. Bush Sr was also the CIA Director assassinating every witness including his friend the owner of the Book Depository at the Congressional Hearing. The shot also went up, back and left. Came from the storm drain.
TheStormchaser1 6 months ago
@3XXKeturah If you look closely at the motion of Connally, specifically his hat, as the limo emerges from behind the road sign, you can see an obvious rapid 'jogging' of the hat. This motion is most suspicious to me and indicates an alteration of framing of one kind or another.
slotstikskimboards 1 year ago
@3XXKeturah I agree with u 100%....the zapruder film is a hoax.however there is a larger question. the government confisicated all film evidence,by ALL bystanders that they KNEW of and Disposed of it,or made a attempt to Falsify it,why ALLOW the zapruder film to see the light of day???. they could have disposed of "JFK" quietly,just like they did Roosevelt and his kid "John John" why a public execution???.
myleftnutts 10 months ago
@myleftnutts Zapruder film a hoax? Nonsense. Pure nonsense on your part.
dougalmac54 8 months ago
@3XXKeturah I've seen the vids by the alterationists and every one of them are wrong on every issue they raise. It's infuriating that these people exploit the case and undermine the credibility of legitimate researchers.
bobharris77 1 year ago
once again the emperor has no clothes. frames 313 and 314 says it all.
vengencefrom1979 1 year ago
great job.
Had to be another shooter and 285 cinches it.
No matter how many times we discount the SBT, brainwashed humans are incapable of ridding themselves of the "official story" because mother is never wrong. It is a psychological fact that people will always believe the first thing they are told by an authority figure no matter how many times those facts are completely discounted or refuted. its called the discounting cue affect and it is widely used by biz ,media and govts.
Thesniper21 1 year ago
As I have said before, consider this, the WC claims a single bullet, retrieved in near perfect condition, caused wounds in both JFK and Gov Connally, yet the head shot bullet exploded JFK's head on impact, with only fragments found, same batch of bullets.
jvs257 1 year ago
Did either John or Nellie Connally view the silent Zapruder film and comment where they thought shots were?
TrueNovice 1 year ago
You know what amazes me? All along the parade route, people are lined up between 10 and 20 deep, shoulder to shoulder, except at this part of the Motorcade. Where are all the people at?
flomoose1 1 year ago
@flomoose1 No parade or motorcade went that way before, and the papers published an alternate route, so many people did not know the car would turn unto Elm Street where the ambush occurred.
TrueNovice 1 year ago
@flomoose1 They were MOVED OUT of there.
nbkid 1 year ago
RIP JFK
JrsSd619 1 year ago
I think only God and the murderer knows the truth, R.I.P JFK
foxotavio 1 year ago
Hey Bob, I noticed that towards the beeginning of the video, you show the Zapruder film, and it is zoomed in quite a bit, and the quality is really good for being that close. Any chance you can share how you got the quality that well? I'd really like to watch the whole Zapruder film in that zoom and quality.
Shayminate 2 years ago
i think there were multiple shooters, theres no way that that bullet ca do what it did, expecailly from as far as oswald was
bdawgfilms 2 years ago
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BavisTrickle 1 year ago
@BavisTrickle why wouldn't oswald shoot JFK when we went by the window ??? You mean to tell me --- he waits till he's 300 feet beyond him? With a $6 dollar world war 1 rifle ? Think about how little sense that makes.
nbkid 1 year ago 2
@nbkid This is the best point to the whole thing. When Kenedy is on Houston right before the turn onto Elm. The SBD would have been the best view for a shooter. There would have been only one shot. That turn onto Elm is really strange...
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BavisTrickle 11 months ago
what happens is that governor connaly screams my god they are going to kill us all
MickDylan28 2 years ago
@bobharris77- PART 2
Now, if you watch the movements of ALL the people in the limo, clearly SOMETHING happens because ALL OF THEM REACT: JFK falls slightly left, J Connally falls back toward his wife, the women look at their husbands, Kellerman turns to face forward, and Greer turns back to look at JFK.
That everyone in the limo reacted screams that there WAS a shot at that moment ---------- but it missed.
mesoanarchy 2 years ago
@bobharris77- Comment in parts.... PART 1.
Mrs. Connally's recollections have been proven to be off. Just listen to her talk about the configuration of the motorcade cars - saying LBJ was in the car directly behind the the SS when, obviously that was not true.
mesoanarchy 2 years ago
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LBJ hired me, a circus clown and master of disguises. I impersonated a Dallas motorcycle cop and did the head shot through a hole in the wooden fence next to the grassy knoll, then dissappeared, living in Argentina with Dr. Mengela and a cloned Hitler boy who lost his virginity to my teenage Mexican wife. I have only recently returned to the USA to plan 911 for Bush. Atta was a real card with us loving Thai strippers in a South Beach club.
wmhoad 2 years ago
Kellerman testified "A flurry of shells came into the car." What is this? Shells from what?
cnees208 2 years ago 2
is it possible gene hill snapped her head to the right to look at the police officer driving the bike who she was dating???
jamesgambino 2 years ago 2
Bob, you're taking the testimony/statements of those in the limo too literal. There was no shot at Z-frame 285.
bbrown222 2 years ago
@bbrown222 Tell me something Bill. Nellie mistakenly believed that her husband was by a shot that was fired AFTER JFK was hit.
Forget about what she said. Look at the film and tell me when she THOUGHT she heard that shot.
bobharris77 2 years ago
Bob, I've watched. I just can't tie her words to her actions. I believe, like you, that as far as when her husband was hit, she was mistaken. John Connally was clearly hit before Nellie knew that he was.
I just haven't seen enough to make me say without a doubt that the occupants in the limo all react to a shot at Z-285.
bbrown222 2 years ago
@bbrown222 Why won't you answer my question, Bill?
bobharris77 2 years ago
Bob, I have no way of knowing exactly when it was that Nellie thought she heard the shot. Neither do you. We're talking about a period of about 4 seconds roughly. I don't believe in dissecting her testimony down to the precise level that she never intended her words to be taken to.
bbrown222 2 years ago
@bbrown222 "Bob, I have no way of knowing exactly when it was that Nellie thought she heard the shot. Neither do you."
Really? Then you need to get a copy of the Zapruder film and a copy of her testimony before the WC, because she told us when she heard that shot and any idiot can see when she turned back to her husband and pulled him back to her.
But most of all, you need to get some integrity, Bill.
bobharris77 2 years ago
Hey, Bob, did you ever read: "Red Roses From Texas" by Nerin E. Gun, 1964 and what is your "take" on it?
ziggy2sound4u 2 years ago
@ziggy2sound4u Nope, never read that one.
bobharris77 2 years ago
Kellerman actions don't look right for a SSA. He isn't concerned enought. Only giving one very quick look over his left shoulder. Turning around only far enought to see Mrs Connely for a micro secound and then facing squarely forward never to turn around again.The brakes jerk the car not even a flinch. No secound look back. It's like he was expecting all this to happen. He is trained to give his life to protect JFK but hear's gun shot's and can't even look at JFK to see if he is hit.
dinkeydow1 2 years ago 3
True dat Dinkey. Very suspicious. Look at how fast the SSA jumped up and between Reagan and Hinkley. Guess that's the difference between a Rep. and Dem. or Bohemian club member and non member.
pwreric 2 years ago
no magic bullet..........
dum dum bullet is the one from the front right or low front right......
ebillyboi 2 years ago
well of cource if u were shot woundent u get scared and break the car
thekennedycurse100 2 years ago
that part bothered me, too. then again, all of JFK's secret service stepped away from the him right before the shooting and played it off like they were told to step away from him on the radio or somethin. it is all CIA... this, martin luther king, oswald, sept 11, all similar styles of killings. people who arent guilty are blamed each time...
ReflexRx 2 years ago 2
@ReflexRx Your right except about 9-11. Those nineteenSaudi-born Al-Qaida agents were not patsies!
dbmyers2 1 year ago
The initial pain and anguish on Connally's face that Bob attributes to a shot hitting Connally could simply be Connally's anguish over his realizing that JFK was shot. Seems more likely that the recollection of Mr. & Mrs. Connally is accurate, that the governor was hit by a subsequent shot, not the same bullet that penetrated JFK's neck and throat.
eeldeal 2 years ago 3
good job bob..frame 285 is a definate confirmed shot thats been overlooked tooo long.
jay1jam 2 years ago
John Connally was first shot in the back at frame 244 or 245 not the same time when JFK got shot in the throat
akaredcrossbow 2 years ago
@akaredcrossbow A frontal shot at that.
MrLordbaltimore 1 year ago
Where is the babushka lady located in your vid ? I see the Brehms, MM and JH...but.
moyadapne 2 years ago
John Connolly also said that he was hit by a different bullet than JFK and that he was turning to see what was going on!
He said that he was sure that they were hit by two different bullets! I'm surprised that this is not said in the video!
brav0wing 2 years ago
John Connally did not say they were hit by different bullets. He said that he was not hit by the first bullet.
bobharris77 2 years ago
Really, then why he said that when he turned to see JFK, the president was already hit, holding his throat and then he felt the shot that hit himself?
Hmm?
brav0wing 2 years ago
I mean, you have Connally's interview to your right, supporting what Mrs. Connally said!
Watch it, he clearly states that moments before he was hit, he heard a shot then he turned to his right and the president had slumped, then he turned to his left and he himself was hit, that states that the president was already hit!
brav0wing 2 years ago
Correction: watch that video starting at about 2:30, not 3:00
watch?v=-QdsxbOoUqY
bobharris77 2 years ago
Connally was still in his hospital bed and undoubtedly, a bit groggy when he claimed he turned to his left and saw JFK. But it is obvious in the Zfilm that he never did that. He turned to his right, but not far enough to see JFK.
He later corrected his statement and admitted that he turned right and never saw JFK. Watch this video from 1964 beginning at about 3:00
watch?v=-QdsxbOoUqY
bobharris77 2 years ago
Do you think the first bullet missed the car and all of its occupant entirely?
TrueNovice 2 years ago
@bobharris77 Sorry Bob. There are videos of JC saying he was not hit by the same bullet that hit JFK. I've seen it. And he is quoted as saying this.
dbmyers2 1 year ago
Very well done. This kind of analysis is crucial to discovering truth. Combine this research with the CIA detail being called to stand down as the motorcade enters the plaza, and you get some interesting questions.
mikinmontague 2 years ago
Thanks, but I'm afraid that I cannot agree that agents were ordered to stand down from protecting JFK. This is my video on the subject,
watch?v=gl3F9mfC1bA
bobharris77 2 years ago
Seems reasonable. Thanks for the followup.
One question I've always had was why the last-minute schedule change (if indeed there was one). And if there was a schedule change, how did anyone on the outside know about it to arrange such a collection of shooters?
mikinmontague 2 years ago
@mikinmontague The timing of the visit, the motorcade route (with help from Dallas Mayor Earl Cabell) and motorcade destination were all arranged by LBJ through his cohort, John Connally, who threatened to call off the whole trip if the White House didn't submit to his demands as to destination - thus motocade route. (reference: "LBJ - The Mastermind of JFK's Assassination", pub 2010, by Phillip F. Nelson).
dbmyers2 1 year ago
It's all second-party hindsight (meaning for us), but the confusion taking place within the vehicle; the utter uncertainty of whether or not they heard what they thought was a shot fired, or if there actually was a shot fired -- no one had time to react by hitting the deck ... diving to the floor of the car. My God it all happened so damned fast. By the time they could have reacted -- after that first misfire, JKF was hit and wounded.
LBJ you son of a bitch! Yes, I think he planned it all!
KarmicOmen 2 years ago
SIMULTANEOUS means happening at the exact same time. If the shots occurred one right after the other they were fired CONSECUTIVELY not simultaneously.
KarmicOmen 2 years ago
Lucky thing for the team of assassins assembled at Dealy Plaza that JFK wasn't earlier called away from the parade route by some pressing event or that it wasn't raining or that JFK was sitting on the right. Lucky for Jackie that the shooter in the grassy knoll was so accurate, otherwise she might've been hit as well. Months in the planning by the CIA, the mafia and the FBI and JFK's car arrived at Lee Harvey's place of employment just as envisioned. ba da bing...
bailinnumberguy 2 years ago 2
@bailinnumberguy It was well planned alright.
MrLordbaltimore 1 year ago
@bailinnumberguy Not luck at all. This was only the third time they set up this same arrangement. First time three weeks earlier in Chicago complete with a set up ex-marine "patsy", Thomas Author Vallee. Second set up was two weeks earlier in Miami, both motorcades cancelled because of leaks (in Chicago the tip came from a man named "Lee"). Both previous setups involved high rise sharpshooters with telescopic sights during a presidential motorcade. Three's the charm!
dbmyers2 1 year ago
At the point you put the yellow identifying circle around Mrs. Connelly (around 1:33), you'll notice that Gov. Connelly is still holding onto his hat, which would've been impossible for him to do if the bullet had already hit his wrist. There's also no blood on his cuff, either. So it looks like Mrs. Connelly (who was in the car) is right in her recollection of events, and you (who were not in the car) are wrong.
AlmeidaFan 2 years ago
Connally is still clutching his hat after Zapruder frame 320, and well after the explosion of the President's head. Is it your belief that Connally has not been wounded by that point?
We can see blood on his wrist, long before that, although it took a second or two before it could be seen in the film.
bobharris77 2 years ago
It's my belief that Connally caught two bullets; the first in his back and a separate bullet in the wrist/thigh.
I see no blood on his wrist long before that. Neither did Robert Groden, who's been over this film with a fine tooth comb.
AlmeidaFan 2 years ago
People hold onto things with worse wounds then that. I know a guy who served in Nam who lost his arm. His hand was still holding onto a grenade he had been preparing.
JFKReloaded167 2 years ago
Himalayan Gorilla, there are photos of JFK's head wounds. His head was blown apart and his brains were gone. Don't you do research?
MuzikLady22 2 years ago
I called my fellow researcher about this at 2:30AM! EPIC!
MrFirestartheGreat 2 years ago
I was not only judging you on this video.
TheHimalayanGorilla 2 years ago
No, you aren't listening.
Zframes are 1/18th of a second long. There was 1.5 seconds between 285 and 312. Min time to load and aim the alleged murder weapon, 2.3 seconds.
That's why I said, that shot "settles the conspiracy question once and for all.".
There are legitimate, analytical ways to prove conspiracy without relying on BS documentaries which have been long discredited.
Look at my other videos.
bobharris77 2 years ago
Yo Bob, you are saying that the government position on how the shots were fired is correct-are you not?
TheHimalayanGorilla 2 years ago
Someone tell BOB to contact me so I can show him how unsound his "proof" is and people please do your own research because this guy is 1 of the cronies who is still trying to keep this cover-up. Just watch this one video "The men who killed Kennedy, The Final Chapter" or "Who Killed JFK" or "Was it Johnson" or any related vids. They are all damning but the JOhnson one is especially to him.
TheHimalayanGorilla 2 years ago
Okay narrator, answer this-How come every medical personnel and eyewitness to JFK's head wound said it was a gaping hole to the occipital/parietal (or as some said directly above the back portion of the right ear? -and- How come the autopsy photos don't show this? THey show no gaping hole to the rear but only an entry wound? Also, why did every medical person say that the neck wound in the front and forehead wound were BOTH ENTRY wounds? You can see the wound in many films that day.
TheHimalayanGorilla 2 years ago
Did you mean to post these replies to a different video?? This has nothing to do with the headshots. You can learn about that in these videos:
watch?v=IVfIh-8nXyQ
watch?v=rYaoBB1rwkc&feature=response_watch
Please watch the entire video or at least enough of it so that you know what you are attacking.
bobharris77 2 years ago
she was right Connely was the first to hit Kennedy.
Ella tiene razon fue Connely quien disparo primero a Kennedy y para el segundo tiro la esposa le acomodo la cabeza
acpfox20 2 years ago
Mary had onlya Polaroid camera. Beverly Oliver was holding the video cam.
ringtalk3 2 years ago
Where is Mary Morman`s Video? It looks like she`s taping and facing the grassy knoll. We always hear for the Z film but a lass he had his back to the greassy knoll.
ebilo281 2 years ago
The Warren Commission did little in regards to investigating the Secret Service protection of the President. I saw JFK in 1962 when he visited Berkeley. His Limo was 5th or 6th in line and went by SO FAST w/agents on the rear bumpers. Watch JFK - Secret Service here on you tube as the two agents are called off just as they were leaving Love Field.
drguffey 2 years ago
are secret service drivers not trained to put their foot on the gas in the event of fire? surely he should also have an earpiece connecting him with the head of the detail in the car behind? kellerman doesnt seem to react at all, surely he should have pulled out a machine gun and sprayed the picket fence of the grassy knoll? bunch of amateurs
innit27 2 years ago
@innit27 No amateurs! Dirty agents, bought and paid for.
dbmyers2 1 year ago
Listen to what I now proclaim . !
Its about the brilliant Kennedy brain
A minimum of six shots were fired
By a hand full of men, some of them hired
And yes, the loudest shot from the drain
Thats the shot that took the rebellious brain
Two more sniper positions were over there
Its easy to find those positions somewhere,
So now I hope this rime is not made in vain.
Because they are still there: THE ONES TO BLAME !
luiwimmes 2 years ago 2
The driver did NOT shoot Kennedy! Kennedy's head snaps back and to the left indicating a shot from the right front. i.e. the Grassy Knoll. I don't see anyone with a gun in the car!
drguffey 2 years ago
I dont know what you all see here ...I,m not an expert on the subject ,but it seems evident the driver pulled a gun just as his co-driver raises his left hand ,,then shoots the president and drops the gun very fast ,,,it was well coregraphed...
AnarKypanky 2 years ago
If you look around here on the tube there is a vid that clearly shows it is not the driver although he did slow down that car a bit...
kerry1111111 2 years ago
i dont know man , im not sure , but i know the driver is guilty of something ...If the systeme wasnt so corrupted , Greer would have been the first suspect and not Oswald . I think we can all agree on that .
AnarKypanky 2 years ago
Have you watched the JFK - Secret Service video here on you tube? The one where the two agents running along side the limo were called away as they were leaving Love Field? The one who throws his hands up said it was the first time in 7 years, or something like that, he was called off his post !!!
drguffey 2 years ago
yeah man i saw that .. its completely insane ...The agent cant beleive his ears and clearly doesnt know what is going on .
AnarKypanky 2 years ago
O-yeah saw that one, the one where LBJ has the car cleaned out of all evidence "oops we weren't supposed to do that?" , the bullet hole in the windshield, The dallas doc's saying big hole back of head , LBJ's hitmans fingerprint on the box in TSBD , the sound evidence indicating more than 3 shots ect.. I would say this case should be re-opened.
kerry1111111 2 years ago 2
Connally said he heard a shot and looked to his right. This occurred BEFORE they disappeared behind the road sign!
drguffey 2 years ago
Connaly was then hit a second time in frame 297
akaredcrossbow 2 years ago
connally was first hit in frame 243
akaredcrossbow 2 years ago
this answers nothing
tovasdad 2 years ago
Good work, Bob. Keep it up.
cyberwing777 2 years ago