Despite 60 odd years of faith-based, uncritical cheering and obscene subsidies all the solar power in the entire world produces only as much energy a medium-sized nuclear station with a couple of reactors.
Even Germany, hot-bed of organic farming, windmills and other nonsense has been forced to reconsider their nuclear phase-out; the alternative was to build a couple of dozen more coal plants.
Thanks again, this is the kind of tv programs people should see. Not only entertainment, extremes are not good, but ignorance is worse. Im am from Colombia, i know my country is poor, but in some way general knowledge, culture from around the world is an important thing to people. Here in the U.S.A, a lot of people just don't care about their education, sadly too much people. You dont only need to feed you body, also you need to feed you mind TO KNOW WHAT THE WORLD is. just my opinion. :)
Yes, that appears to be true of most "3rd world" countries from my own experience in SE Asia. Education is considered a valued commodity. Those who are afforded the "luxury" of going to school see it as a privilege, something not to be wasted. They work night and day almost, as if living up to a responsibility (mostly to their families).
And it's not just those going to school; their siblings and parents similarly work night and day to support the ONE they could afford to send to school. - JBW
I have a doctor friend (GP) who will be moving there within the next year or so (his wife is Colombian [and now also Canadian]) and he's told me a lot about the country. But only the places he's been to of course, rural areas.
I know very little about the urban areas like Bogotá, although he's been there too of course (on arrivals). Don't think he ever spent any time in the city.
Hello, thanks for your words, I am from Bogota. I miss my country and my city, but i have no reason to comeback to Colombia for now. Its a shame what the last two Bogota mayors have done with the city, the city was changing for good, but now its in some "involution". So everybody is really mad about that, the city looks in the hands of no one, incompetence is what those mayors have to offer. The city had change a lot in the las 15 years, but now is like frozen in time if not worse.
Ouch! ... I won't even ask how or why. I'm sure it's too convoluted even for the so-called politicians to explain.
Well, perhaps one day things will change for the better. I'm in Phnom Penh, Cambodia and things sort of go back and forth here. Some things get better, some worse. The general trend seems to be for the better... but you have to consider where they're coming from!
Thanks for letting us peek into the possible and likely future that lies ahead. Thanks for letting us peek into the possible and likely future that lies ahead.
They should put this documentary as obligatory in every school so they can prepare themselves for the future that lies ahead. They are the ones who will guide the world to salvation. I´m going to show it to my students who are working on a project concerning climate change. This is THE best well documented documentary on climate change I have ever seen.
Of course. Obviously you can't "document" the future. It's an oxymoron.
You can, of course, invent a future and document the invention which is what this is, and since it relates to scientific things, I would call it science fiction with a word of warning of course, as is true with almost all science fiction - there's usually some point about what *could* happen if we're not careful. Just think of 1984.
Actually I think we went more the Brave New World route and THAT is more frightening. As "Dostoevskys 1984 Saved Him from Our Brave New World" explained Big Brother doesn't have to control the media as any truth that may be out there is effectively covered over by Sturgeon's Law. Youtube is case in point--just look at the signal to noise ratio.
1984 was written by George Orwell, an Englishman. Though it does pertain to Russia at the time, in the forward (which was removed by the publisher) he claims that all that is about to be said about the Russian government equally applies to our own etc... (I don't know if I can find a copy of the deleted forward, but I'll try).
BB, interpreted the right way, *is* watching you. Internet TV is not broadcast; it's a 2 way street. Even if you don't click an ad, it was delivered to YOU "unclicked".
In 1984 Big Brother was the government while in Brave New World BB was for all practical purposes the corporation. Think about WHO is using that information from Internet TV--the government (1984) or a corporation (BNW)
There's a difference? I guess perhaps in really radical military-controlled countries they may have something that could be described as a "government" in the old sense (ie. nationalist and having some sort underlying philosophy).
But the norm, if you look at WHO (sry for caps) is in charge, it is fully corporate. Which seems to make the whole distinction between nation states kinda vague nowadays since those corporations having the most influence are typically multinationals.
in conclusion: even if we do change all the world and all of society's habits, we still need major changes, or we're f**ked.... which means: no matter what we do now to improve the environment: we're all f**ked... so thanks a lot industrial revolution, for making your lives better and ours worst
Yes, but I wouldn't say it's completely a dead end. This will get worse in some ways, and better in others. I think, if you view this program one way it's all doom and gloom, but if you look at it another way it's just the opposite. Notice, for instance that sudden drought in the middle east led to irrigation, farming and ultimately writing and civilization. Or how global freezing led to art and music.
I think it's how we deal with problems that's key. What's done is done. What will *you* do?
I think the only *specific* methane reference was about "flatulent cows".
But he also held up a graph of *overal* methane concentrations without any specifics, only that it was rising rapidly and coupled (along with other greenhouse gasses) with the general trend of towards increasing Global T_avg.
I'll have to watch again... I don't have a transcript of the program's text unfortunately.
James Burke has done such excellent & intelligent work on this & other series. He attacks his subject with wit, rigor & a far-ranging intelligence. You don't see this high standard very often. ... Did he mention methane hydrates in the oceans?
@itznora No he did not mention those. Good reason too- the pollution that would cause would be monstrous. Methane is a terrible gas to deal with, in any form, for any use, for all reasons.
As for this series, it is so far off that I am left feeling like I have wasted my time watching. Alarmist- chicken-little syndrome without addressing what turns out to be the worst pollluter of all. I heard no appreciable mention of sulfur dioxide in any of this.
My guess is it was made in 1994 though I haven't looked it up. I'm guessing that because the "speculation" starts around that time, prior to 1994 everything is chronologically correct.
Going from 260ppm to 400ppm CO2 will have no effect on the heat capacity of a system. Socialist clap trap.
Ruebacca 4 months ago
Seems to be a message piece for the time it was made, a little off the rails at best.
Wonder if Al Gore picked up on this ??? Now there is a work of star class Hokum...
xyzpr11 11 months ago
Seems to be a message piece for the time it was made, a little off the rails at best.
Wonder if Al Gore picked up on this ??? Now there is a work of star class Hokum...
xyzpr11 11 months ago
This program reminds me of the stories of chicken little and the boy who cried wolf.
kacplaymyst 1 year ago
Burke's predictions have been a big fat failure.
Greenhouse emissions accelerated.
Despite 60 odd years of faith-based, uncritical cheering and obscene subsidies all the solar power in the entire world produces only as much energy a medium-sized nuclear station with a couple of reactors.
Even Germany, hot-bed of organic farming, windmills and other nonsense has been forced to reconsider their nuclear phase-out; the alternative was to build a couple of dozen more coal plants.
soylentgreenb 1 year ago
Itznora I 100% aggree with you. I love the good work this man has done!! Way to go mr. Burke!!
mzedong001 1 year ago
its 2010, no massacre at Darwin...
And US is in no mood to stop American Way of Life TM
Predicting the future is well, tricky business...
ewok40k 1 year ago
Way too Malthusian. Burke's gone off the deep end here.
moronpaul 2 years ago
how about the sun activity and the Warming on mars? we had to separate church from the state and now we have to separate state from science.
falcon02012 2 years ago
Amen to that!
JamesBurkeWeb 2 years ago
Thanks again, this is the kind of tv programs people should see. Not only entertainment, extremes are not good, but ignorance is worse. Im am from Colombia, i know my country is poor, but in some way general knowledge, culture from around the world is an important thing to people. Here in the U.S.A, a lot of people just don't care about their education, sadly too much people. You dont only need to feed you body, also you need to feed you mind TO KNOW WHAT THE WORLD is. just my opinion. :)
darkalligator 2 years ago
Yes, that appears to be true of most "3rd world" countries from my own experience in SE Asia. Education is considered a valued commodity. Those who are afforded the "luxury" of going to school see it as a privilege, something not to be wasted. They work night and day almost, as if living up to a responsibility (mostly to their families).
And it's not just those going to school; their siblings and parents similarly work night and day to support the ONE they could afford to send to school. - JBW
JamesBurkeWeb 2 years ago
BTW. Which part of Colombia are you from?
I have a doctor friend (GP) who will be moving there within the next year or so (his wife is Colombian [and now also Canadian]) and he's told me a lot about the country. But only the places he's been to of course, rural areas.
I know very little about the urban areas like Bogotá, although he's been there too of course (on arrivals). Don't think he ever spent any time in the city.
- JBW
- JBW
JamesBurkeWeb 2 years ago
Hello, thanks for your words, I am from Bogota. I miss my country and my city, but i have no reason to comeback to Colombia for now. Its a shame what the last two Bogota mayors have done with the city, the city was changing for good, but now its in some "involution". So everybody is really mad about that, the city looks in the hands of no one, incompetence is what those mayors have to offer. The city had change a lot in the las 15 years, but now is like frozen in time if not worse.
darkalligator 2 years ago
Ouch! ... I won't even ask how or why. I'm sure it's too convoluted even for the so-called politicians to explain.
Well, perhaps one day things will change for the better. I'm in Phnom Penh, Cambodia and things sort of go back and forth here. Some things get better, some worse. The general trend seems to be for the better... but you have to consider where they're coming from!
- JBW
JamesBurkeWeb 2 years ago
Thanks for letting us peek into the possible and likely future that lies ahead. Thanks for letting us peek into the possible and likely future that lies ahead.
pvtw1974 2 years ago 2
You're quite welcome.
- JBW
JamesBurkeWeb 2 years ago
They should put this documentary as obligatory in every school so they can prepare themselves for the future that lies ahead. They are the ones who will guide the world to salvation. I´m going to show it to my students who are working on a project concerning climate change. This is THE best well documented documentary on climate change I have ever seen.
pvtw1974 2 years ago
Just remember that it is half documentary and half future history (everything after 1989).
Maximara 2 years ago 5
Of course. Obviously you can't "document" the future. It's an oxymoron.
You can, of course, invent a future and document the invention which is what this is, and since it relates to scientific things, I would call it science fiction with a word of warning of course, as is true with almost all science fiction - there's usually some point about what *could* happen if we're not careful. Just think of 1984.
Unfortunately that one came true!
- JBW
JamesBurkeWeb 2 years ago
Actually I think we went more the Brave New World route and THAT is more frightening. As "Dostoevskys 1984 Saved Him from Our Brave New World" explained Big Brother doesn't have to control the media as any truth that may be out there is effectively covered over by Sturgeon's Law. Youtube is case in point--just look at the signal to noise ratio.
Maximara 2 years ago
1984 was written by George Orwell, an Englishman. Though it does pertain to Russia at the time, in the forward (which was removed by the publisher) he claims that all that is about to be said about the Russian government equally applies to our own etc... (I don't know if I can find a copy of the deleted forward, but I'll try).
BB, interpreted the right way, *is* watching you. Internet TV is not broadcast; it's a 2 way street. Even if you don't click an ad, it was delivered to YOU "unclicked".
JamesBurkeWeb 2 years ago
In 1984 Big Brother was the government while in Brave New World BB was for all practical purposes the corporation. Think about WHO is using that information from Internet TV--the government (1984) or a corporation (BNW)
Maximara 2 years ago
There's a difference? I guess perhaps in really radical military-controlled countries they may have something that could be described as a "government" in the old sense (ie. nationalist and having some sort underlying philosophy).
But the norm, if you look at WHO (sry for caps) is in charge, it is fully corporate. Which seems to make the whole distinction between nation states kinda vague nowadays since those corporations having the most influence are typically multinationals.
JamesBurkeWeb 2 years ago
I have heard a term that is a bit new to me that may catch on and may help to remove some confusion - Docudrama.
kcjenner1 2 years ago
Perhaps.
JamesBurkeWeb 2 years ago
in conclusion: even if we do change all the world and all of society's habits, we still need major changes, or we're f**ked.... which means: no matter what we do now to improve the environment: we're all f**ked... so thanks a lot industrial revolution, for making your lives better and ours worst
ing420021 2 years ago
Yes, but I wouldn't say it's completely a dead end. This will get worse in some ways, and better in others. I think, if you view this program one way it's all doom and gloom, but if you look at it another way it's just the opposite. Notice, for instance that sudden drought in the middle east led to irrigation, farming and ultimately writing and civilization. Or how global freezing led to art and music.
I think it's how we deal with problems that's key. What's done is done. What will *you* do?
JamesBurkeWeb 2 years ago
I think the only *specific* methane reference was about "flatulent cows".
But he also held up a graph of *overal* methane concentrations without any specifics, only that it was rising rapidly and coupled (along with other greenhouse gasses) with the general trend of towards increasing Global T_avg.
I'll have to watch again... I don't have a transcript of the program's text unfortunately.
- JBW
JamesBurkeWeb 2 years ago
James Burke has done such excellent & intelligent work on this & other series. He attacks his subject with wit, rigor & a far-ranging intelligence. You don't see this high standard very often. ... Did he mention methane hydrates in the oceans?
itznora 2 years ago 5
I believe that what James Burke is saying at 03:47 about the dumping is about the methane hydrates.
kcjenner1 2 years ago
@itznora No he did not mention those. Good reason too- the pollution that would cause would be monstrous. Methane is a terrible gas to deal with, in any form, for any use, for all reasons.
As for this series, it is so far off that I am left feeling like I have wasted my time watching. Alarmist- chicken-little syndrome without addressing what turns out to be the worst pollluter of all. I heard no appreciable mention of sulfur dioxide in any of this.
Ionian1006 9 months ago
Thanks for the up load, never seen this one before.
When was it made, I'm guessing 1980's?
Danni4815162342 3 years ago 2
My guess is it was made in 1994 though I haven't looked it up. I'm guessing that because the "speculation" starts around that time, prior to 1994 everything is chronologically correct.
JamesBurkeWeb 3 years ago