converge has been around since 1994 so their "genre" is irrelevant. hellfest 03, team neal benefit that year up in worsceter, wow. best days of my life. the summers of hardcore.
@peeehz Jane Doe is considered their best pretty much across the board. You Fail Me kicks all sorts of ass as well, but Jane Doe is probably the best place to start. Axe to Fall is sick as well.
Anybody who says that Converge has gotten "soft" CLEARLY has NOT heard this song. Converge has consistently been brutal, loud, chaotic, and complex for 20 years. Shut the fuck up if you think Converge has gotten "soft".
@xIAMDAVEx dude if any band in the world can make music from 2-3 notes, I'll give them all the respect! to me it doesnt sound that way when I listen to slipknot though.
but anyways converge is a kick-ass band! nice song
this band isnt metal. its more along the core genre. its my first time listening to this, and yeah, its technical and complex, but its just not my cup of tea. i just prefer the good ol classic thrash metal sound. besides, that riff at 1:00 is probly one of the most brutal riffs ive ever heard.
at first, i didnt like converge. then when i saw them live, i gav them another chance. I LIKE THEM ALOT NOW! perhaps the only metalcore band i respect nowadays.
@MetalPersian Yeah they take a few listens to get into. I remember the first time I heard them I was like "okay... fuuuuuuuck... I've got to get into this" haha
i don't know why the fuck people are always arguing about everyone's music taste.stop talking shit behind your computer and get a life.
tastes differ man.you can't make everyone like your favorite colour,music,girl,dish or whatever.this is so stupid.you know i'd rather eat dog shit than argue about taste.
why are we al arguing over this shit its totally opinion based just be opened minded to something different if u dont like it fair enough ppl say disturbed sux others say converge suk i can listen to both and not hav any problems dont argue among ourselves we should be hating rap and shit like that where a song from sum one whose bin on the music scene 2 months makes numba 1. sum metal bands bin round yrs and hardly any1 knows em but they more talented than lady gaga or 50cent etc
i dont understand why people look at these videos if they dont like the band... and another thing, converge cannot be compared with disturbed or slipknot ect. they are completely different...converge comes from hardcore roots.. u cant say one band is better than the other when the 2 bands in question are doing completely different things...
get a job and buy some good damn music, not the garbage the radio wants you to have. Skeletonwitch and Converge are a good start if you dont know what to do with yourself. Warbringer and Slayer are always good choices as well.
Hey deathfan, you're totally wrong. Converge started way before 1999, before those bands you like. And have outlasted each of them. While the slipknot tools cant seem to stay in one band, and disturbed just flat out sucks...converge has kept true to their agressive fast-paced punk metal style. maybe its just too good for you, and you need your metal to be born on protools.
im all about fuckin intense music and death metal nd heavy metal and whatnot, but i cannot stand to listen to this retarded bullshit, music has gone stale except for the bands that were rockin it years ago
nothings wrong with jfac cuz theyre actuly good, and i listen to slayer, morbid angel, cannibal corpse, death, those are great bands and this band obviously isnt
Sorry dude, but you got it wrong. Converge is the future of metal. Everything else is stale in comparison. They're technically brilliant and, once you get used to their "chaotic" sound, you'll find it hard to get back to the old straight forward metal you're listening to now. It happened to me.
yaa sorry but they're not cuz as i said this has no rhythym or like anything that i look for in a band, the only bands that started from 1999 that are good are jfac, disturbed, slipknot and i forgot the other 1
slipknot is the shittiest band ever made, all their music is made up of 2-3 guitar notes getting played over and over throughout the whole song. and mindless 14 year old kids look at their masks and go wow they are badass they swear and pull the fingers at the crowd im buying their cd is BrUtAl! posers
for 1 im not saying that i like newer bands and also not saying slipknot is my fave, and you're the one to judge what's music and what's not when you're listening to metalcore which is just random bullshit with no point in sight for it so yaa fuck you shitheads thers only some corebands that have some decent songs but not much
I still can't get the people at my school from thinking Linkin Park is heavy -_-. And Slipknot too, some people are actual fans for that band at school and I tell them that this band is way better but they tell me they can't top how heavy Slipknot is, ignorance is too much to handle. I know MANY bands better than slipknot. Even The Devil Wears Prada is heavier. But The Black Dahli Murder, Parkway Drive, or Whitechapel is way heavier and better than that mainstream sellout band.
o damn! that sucks lol. yeah ignorant young kids only think the only music that exists is music that gets played on tv and radio. theres like millions of bands that play just for funa dn dont want all that commerical attention and watered downness like slipknot etc.
are you the kind of person who brings up how shitty slipknot is at the dinner table at thanksgiving? Seriously slipknot has nothing to do with this, go rant on your dad or something about it.
hmm you sort of contradict yourself. Converge,.. and especially converge live is one of the intensed and heaviest experience if ever made.
further more,... how to say,.. you listen to heavy stuff and than say converge suxx without explanation ?! heavy stuff = slipknot ?! ohboy go to hell! :D
for 1 i already explained my reasons if you didnt see i said they had no rhythm or they're just not catchy or anything and just because i love heavy shiznits doesn't mean im gonna put up with this bullcrap
This shit is fucking awesome, someone told me this is "Proper Mathcore" and I believe them, this shit is fucking awesome. Actually, I don't really understand what Mathcore is, but this sounds different from most other genres I've heard.
It's hardcore or metal. Metalcore is a stupid genre. It sounds stupid and it is stupid. Subgenres are a waste of time. Like what the fuck is deathcore? It's a bullshit term used by stupid scene kids who can't read music or count time. Mathcore is stupid too. Almost all music is carefully calculated and thought out. If a band refers to themselves as deathcore or metalcore or mathcore or crunkcore or whatever the fuck other core, they shouldn't be a band. Period.
@oddzilla1 According to some people on here I know nothning and "sound like a total ass." So they can continue to be made fun of by people who can write music, count time and know scales. Not just people who say "mUsIc Iz MAI LyF3~*~*" and no fuck ALL about what it takes to write music, just how soon they can label it and say they listen to that certain genre to see edgy and cool.
Have you ever heard of Coalesce? Probably the godfathers of this genre Converge is in. Heaviest and brutal? Ok in the hardcore punk community yeah. But Coalesce, Eyehategod, Neurosis are 10 X Heavier.
if i sat down with jacob bannon he would have very little to say about the "genre" of the music. most musicians don't pay any attention to genres. I find it hard to believe he would say converge is "mathcore"
the lyrics are black rain! black rain! black rain! we are rain!
zogozogy98 4 months ago
I can't understand any word in this song!! but i like it!
WillGameRecord 8 months ago
nice
NokturnalTimes 9 months ago
i'd rather listen to miles davis
hypedaj 10 months ago
@hypedaj Your choice, both are excellent musicians.
1234dh56 7 months ago
No offence but i cant even understand a single word in this song !
ritchie19no2 11 months ago
@ritchie19no2 You can't hear "Waiting for the axe to fall" in the beginning?
mskcouric 2 months ago
mathcore...is it about mathematiX? ;)
wasschoenes70 11 months ago
Holy Shit
TheHurricosLevel 1 year ago
converge has been around since 1994 so their "genre" is irrelevant. hellfest 03, team neal benefit that year up in worsceter, wow. best days of my life. the summers of hardcore.
NeilMcCormick4 1 year ago
i always feel like im on speed / PCP induced trip then have a dirty come down at the end. thank you converge only you can do this to me.
TexasClass1987 1 year ago
Converge is punk
hatriarch 1 year ago
@hatriarch true
Owantjaaaa 1 month ago
A good showcase of things to come for Converge. Loved the album.
Mythosician06 1 year ago
mathcore xD! suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks :D
Coooooooooooore 1 year ago
What.
Beefforyou 1 year ago
sounds like white noise and screaming
sounds good
9fram 1 year ago
This music is all about passion, intensity, and building on tradition. The more one understands the context of something, the more one appreciates it
adrugfreeamerica 1 year ago 2
catchy ass riff.. anything else from converge you would suggest me?
peeehz 1 year ago
@peeehz
everything.
thakey69 1 year ago
@peeehz Jane Doe is considered their best pretty much across the board. You Fail Me kicks all sorts of ass as well, but Jane Doe is probably the best place to start. Axe to Fall is sick as well.
MyNutsAreCold 1 year ago
@MyNutsAreCold When Forever Comes Crashing is the greatest album ever made, fact. It just doesn't get the coverage because nobody listened to it.
shitpissbuttocks 1 year ago
I don't think this is very good, at all.
alvisfolk 1 year ago
This isnt even music, it jus a guy screaming his head off...whatever yous are into....
azernala 1 year ago
pretty funny cuz the first time i commented on this i said this band sucked major balls but a week or so later i loved the band. CONVERGE KICKSS ASS
bestdeathfan 1 year ago
Anybody who says that Converge has gotten "soft" CLEARLY has NOT heard this song. Converge has consistently been brutal, loud, chaotic, and complex for 20 years. Shut the fuck up if you think Converge has gotten "soft".
japaboy360 1 year ago
it makes me happy that shitty hot topic bands will NEVER be able to pull off vocals like converge does
three30seven 1 year ago 2
@xIAMDAVEx dude if any band in the world can make music from 2-3 notes, I'll give them all the respect! to me it doesnt sound that way when I listen to slipknot though.
but anyways converge is a kick-ass band! nice song
banaanaars 1 year ago
Genre is more like Grindcore, noise
SocialDboilers 1 year ago
this band isnt metal. its more along the core genre. its my first time listening to this, and yeah, its technical and complex, but its just not my cup of tea. i just prefer the good ol classic thrash metal sound. besides, that riff at 1:00 is probly one of the most brutal riffs ive ever heard.
100bml 1 year ago
This picture of them with the tree is pretty sweet
JeromeKillsFascists 1 year ago
at first, i didnt like converge. then when i saw them live, i gav them another chance. I LIKE THEM ALOT NOW! perhaps the only metalcore band i respect nowadays.
MetalPersian 2 years ago 2
@MetalPersian Idiot!!!
They arent metalcore!
They are Hardcore Punk!
Besides you can see it in the name that they arent a metalcore band!!!
Flip7773 1 year ago
@MetalPersian Yeah they take a few listens to get into. I remember the first time I heard them I was like "okay... fuuuuuuuck... I've got to get into this" haha
JeromeKillsFascists 1 year ago
you know what.
i don't know why the fuck people are always arguing about everyone's music taste.stop talking shit behind your computer and get a life.
tastes differ man.you can't make everyone like your favorite colour,music,girl,dish or whatever.this is so stupid.you know i'd rather eat dog shit than argue about taste.
asamat3000 2 years ago 2
why are we al arguing over this shit its totally opinion based just be opened minded to something different if u dont like it fair enough ppl say disturbed sux others say converge suk i can listen to both and not hav any problems dont argue among ourselves we should be hating rap and shit like that where a song from sum one whose bin on the music scene 2 months makes numba 1. sum metal bands bin round yrs and hardly any1 knows em but they more talented than lady gaga or 50cent etc
disturbingthepeace34 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
who the hell listens to this shit?!
ilovenightwish4ever 2 years ago
i dont understand why people look at these videos if they dont like the band... and another thing, converge cannot be compared with disturbed or slipknot ect. they are completely different...converge comes from hardcore roots.. u cant say one band is better than the other when the 2 bands in question are doing completely different things...
simdeotto 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA you make me laugh
cyphervirus213 2 years ago
disturbed sucks
slipknot sucks
godsmack sucks
..you are a failure if you like them.
get a job and buy some good damn music, not the garbage the radio wants you to have. Skeletonwitch and Converge are a good start if you dont know what to do with yourself. Warbringer and Slayer are always good choices as well.
Find some good metal and stop bitchin'
\m/
adio1984 2 years ago
@adio1984
disturbed sucks
slipknot sucks
godsmack sucks
CONVERGE SUCKS ASS
Just because it's "heavy", doesn't make it good. Why bring up the more popular metal bands? Why not Mayhem, Death, Nile?
Lamb of God? OLD Children of Bodom?
yea....
albinolime 2 years ago
@bestdeathfan: You should try listening to The Locust. You'll love' em.
Superfission 2 years ago
Hey deathfan, you're totally wrong. Converge started way before 1999, before those bands you like. And have outlasted each of them. While the slipknot tools cant seem to stay in one band, and disturbed just flat out sucks...converge has kept true to their agressive fast-paced punk metal style. maybe its just too good for you, and you need your metal to be born on protools.
MRskinlikewinter 2 years ago
@MRskinlikewinter hey hobo i didnt say they started in 1999 if you actually read what i said
bestdeathfan 2 years ago
im all about fuckin intense music and death metal nd heavy metal and whatnot, but i cannot stand to listen to this retarded bullshit, music has gone stale except for the bands that were rockin it years ago
bestdeathfan 2 years ago
yeah, these dudes have been rocking it since like 93.
get into it.
lettherebeCOLBY 2 years ago
ya but to me they obviously havent been good since 93 so i really can't get into them cuz they really got no rhythm or anything
bestdeathfan 2 years ago
you listen to Job For A Cowboy so nothing you say has any merit.
lettherebeCOLBY 2 years ago
nothings wrong with jfac cuz theyre actuly good, and i listen to slayer, morbid angel, cannibal corpse, death, those are great bands and this band obviously isnt
bestdeathfan 2 years ago
JFAC sucks dick, you giant faggot.
OmegaTroll69 2 years ago
Sorry dude, but you got it wrong. Converge is the future of metal. Everything else is stale in comparison. They're technically brilliant and, once you get used to their "chaotic" sound, you'll find it hard to get back to the old straight forward metal you're listening to now. It happened to me.
chuckb666 2 years ago
yaa sorry but they're not cuz as i said this has no rhythym or like anything that i look for in a band, the only bands that started from 1999 that are good are jfac, disturbed, slipknot and i forgot the other 1
bestdeathfan 2 years ago
slipknot is the shittiest band ever made, all their music is made up of 2-3 guitar notes getting played over and over throughout the whole song. and mindless 14 year old kids look at their masks and go wow they are badass they swear and pull the fingers at the crowd im buying their cd is BrUtAl! posers
xIAMDAVEx 2 years ago 7
for 1 im not saying that i like newer bands and also not saying slipknot is my fave, and you're the one to judge what's music and what's not when you're listening to metalcore which is just random bullshit with no point in sight for it so yaa fuck you shitheads thers only some corebands that have some decent songs but not much
bestdeathfan 2 years ago
I still can't get the people at my school from thinking Linkin Park is heavy -_-. And Slipknot too, some people are actual fans for that band at school and I tell them that this band is way better but they tell me they can't top how heavy Slipknot is, ignorance is too much to handle. I know MANY bands better than slipknot. Even The Devil Wears Prada is heavier. But The Black Dahli Murder, Parkway Drive, or Whitechapel is way heavier and better than that mainstream sellout band.
8JobForAMexican8 2 years ago
o damn! that sucks lol. yeah ignorant young kids only think the only music that exists is music that gets played on tv and radio. theres like millions of bands that play just for funa dn dont want all that commerical attention and watered downness like slipknot etc.
xIAMDAVEx 2 years ago
i agreed with most the things you said, however they arent bad, i really like them, but there fanbase is soooo shit
EllaMews 1 year ago
ha yeah i would like them waaaaay more if they werent so commerical and didnt have so many 13 year old maggot dickheads lol
xIAMDAVEx 1 year ago
@xIAMDAVEx
are you the kind of person who brings up how shitty slipknot is at the dinner table at thanksgiving? Seriously slipknot has nothing to do with this, go rant on your dad or something about it.
LunarEclipse666 1 year ago
@LunarEclipse666
it was in reply to a converge hater saying slipknot is better or something.
chur
xIAMDAVEx 1 year ago
@bestdeathfan
hmm you sort of contradict yourself. Converge,.. and especially converge live is one of the intensed and heaviest experience if ever made.
further more,... how to say,.. you listen to heavy stuff and than say converge suxx without explanation ?! heavy stuff = slipknot ?! ohboy go to hell! :D
made my day.
nowayout2k 2 years ago
for 1 i already explained my reasons if you didnt see i said they had no rhythm or they're just not catchy or anything and just because i love heavy shiznits doesn't mean im gonna put up with this bullcrap
bestdeathfan 2 years ago
amazing
peanutchannel 2 years ago
wow
normanhate 2 years ago
No solo? that's not very metal.
Josephdorf03 2 years ago
do they even neEd a solo?
would it even fit ?
the whole song is the solo.
YOUr not Very metal ;-)
NZNSBM 2 years ago
no, but that is pretty Hardcore
spurious 2 years ago
converge is different.But amazing
heartxworm 2 years ago 2
fuck genres, this is intense and awesome. thats all anyone need know.
straight138edge 2 years ago
The genre is Converge.
kersedsaint 2 years ago 38
@kersedsaint
The genre is PISSED
Incepti0n 1 year ago
The only people more ridiculous than those who use terms like mathcore are those who get offended by words like mathcore.
xTheOxx 2 years ago 2
hahha genre: mathcore
furQ 2 years ago
This shit is fucking awesome, someone told me this is "Proper Mathcore" and I believe them, this shit is fucking awesome. Actually, I don't really understand what Mathcore is, but this sounds different from most other genres I've heard.
theif519 2 years ago
Pig Destroyer is just as (if not more) brutal and Ahab has to be the heaviest band around. Converge is still the best band making records right now.
blotchy67 2 years ago
It's hardcore or metal. Metalcore is a stupid genre. It sounds stupid and it is stupid. Subgenres are a waste of time. Like what the fuck is deathcore? It's a bullshit term used by stupid scene kids who can't read music or count time. Mathcore is stupid too. Almost all music is carefully calculated and thought out. If a band refers to themselves as deathcore or metalcore or mathcore or crunkcore or whatever the fuck other core, they shouldn't be a band. Period.
justabeardo 2 years ago
you sound like a total ass
skulleton 2 years ago
you are the only person commenting that knows what they're talking about
oddzilla1 2 years ago
@oddzilla1 According to some people on here I know nothning and "sound like a total ass." So they can continue to be made fun of by people who can write music, count time and know scales. Not just people who say "mUsIc Iz MAI LyF3~*~*" and no fuck ALL about what it takes to write music, just how soon they can label it and say they listen to that certain genre to see edgy and cool.
justabeardo 2 years ago
dude you are speaking my language
oddzilla1 2 years ago
@oddzilla1 Fucking right brother.
justabeardo 2 years ago
yeah I have the same opinion
but I only like axe to fall , the older songs are because of the vocals a bit to discordant for me
and converge don't use time changes that often
many parts are straight 4/4 time signatures,on axe to fall there are much more
listen to #12 or the old architects sogns,they are fuckin awesome
Hoppereater 2 years ago
Fuck death metal, this is the heaviest and most brutal band out there!
alexyanthar2 2 years ago
While Converge is obscenely awesome, making a statement like that is just ridiculous
xXIXxWolf 2 years ago
Have you ever heard of Coalesce? Probably the godfathers of this genre Converge is in. Heaviest and brutal? Ok in the hardcore punk community yeah. But Coalesce, Eyehategod, Neurosis are 10 X Heavier.
ToolOfTrade 2 years ago
Ah yes.. totally forgot about Neurosis. XD
alexyanthar2 2 years ago
AMAZING!
thesex1988 2 years ago
fck it all.. converge is CONVERGE,, thats all
dimebaggBR 2 years ago
mathcore is the best :)
magmaorc 2 years ago
i mean the first part, can you hear it?
RiotTripolis 2 years ago
Hey guys!
I´vo got a (rethoric) question:
The first song of "No heroes" (Heartache) sounds like this song!
Does anyone agree??
Greetings from Germany (and please dont forget to come for a concert :-))
RiotTripolis 2 years ago
who gives a shit what genre you should conform converge too, they rule and thats that, fuck people who categorize music, why do you need too?!
123gul 2 years ago
i dont give a shit for what you say : )
actVIII 2 years ago 4
mathcore ahahah wat retards
xBabarEatGrindx 2 years ago
Let me tell y'all, Converge are METALCORE. It's just, like post-hardcore, the term has been BASTARDISED by pop.
FOR example, here are some AMAZING post-hardcore bands - At the Drive-In, Refused, Glassjaw.
Here are some BASTARDISED post-hardcore bands - Silverstein, Alesana, Blessthefall, Chiodos.
And for metalcore - AMAZING = Converge, Botch
BASTARDISED - Killswitch Engage, Trivium, Bullet for my Valentine.
There ya go.
Supaduck0 2 years ago
they are not mathcore.
converge can only be described in one word
INTENSE!!!!!
Anvilpants 2 years ago
you scenester kids are fucking dumb.... mathcore?
Do you even play an instrument? Can You even count music correctly?
this is a kick ass song.
FastrTHNu 2 years ago 7
@FastrTHNu intstrument ?? that's bulshit.all brats these days take an instrument and they think they know about music , about metal ....wake up !!!!
MAIDENGT 1 year ago
this stuff rips my face off. awesome.
enverbatim 2 years ago
they long time ago said they playing "aggressive music", nothing more.
desimal222 2 years ago
mathcore? i swear people need to chill out on the subgenres. and if converge ever called themselves mathcore they'd be retarded too.
toolegit2quittttt 2 years ago 3
so effectively you are saying converge is retarded
shuairan 2 years ago
if i sat down with jacob bannon he would have very little to say about the "genre" of the music. most musicians don't pay any attention to genres. I find it hard to believe he would say converge is "mathcore"
toolegit2quittttt 2 years ago
Wow this album made me shit bricks, and that doesn't happen very often! ALBUM OF THE YEAR!!!
CrankItEveryDay 2 years ago
I saw them last night and got to shake Jake Bannon's hand. And they impreganted everyone's ears, to the max.
Alaydenify 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure Jake impregnated you when you shook his hand, too.
Infuzor 2 years ago
lol at the tree comments.
Was that the tree drumming?
Brutal.
terrorrbabbletwo 2 years ago
FUCK, I cannot wait til this album comes out. I ordered the deluxe package, album/shirt/poster. So stoked.
terrorrbabbletwo 2 years ago
me too, it will be a great album : D
actVIII 2 years ago
well this shit certainly fucking kills
makeithurtful 2 years ago
I agree with the comment somewhere down the page, that tree has really had some positive influence since it joined the band
r4revelution 2 years ago 5
thats my shit!
pure energy and emotions,
so powerful.
Converge are still in the game, in fact they're still the kings
OreillyORLY 2 years ago 2
Ever since that tree joined Converge it's been all business.
swadkajadoo 2 years ago 55
Word, brah.
Infuzor 2 years ago
seriously, the internet needs more people like you. perfect comment.
shuairan 2 years ago
@swadkajadoo this album does have a rootsier feel to it after all!
00sven00sven00 1 year ago
Absolutely crushing
DGabriel1488 2 years ago
lyrics are on there myspace guys
fucking love this, dark horse and this are the best things ive heard since anything from jane doe
r4revelution 2 years ago 2
This song fucking kills babies, oh my, Converge is like concentrated adrenaline I tell ya.
Infuzor 2 years ago
this cd is going to end lives.
atomicsparrow 2 years ago 5
This has been flagged as spam show
this shit sucks ass
JackBawlza 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
You suck ass ^.^
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xXJesterHeadXx 2 years ago
OMG this is just fucking great!!
Need lyrics too.
Zokneey 2 years ago
jesus fucking christ this song crushes.
xBillyTheKidx 2 years ago
need.... lyrics... now..... This song fucking blows me away.
AceXVI 2 years ago
SO! FUCKING! EXCITED!
Yaksniffer 2 years ago
My brain just melted as I shit out my ears. New Converge is actually too fucking good
kylecharron1212 2 years ago