Actually, it is often times difficult to distinguish between the Bulgarian folklore of Moesia and the Romanian of Wallachia. The two peoples share a lot of Thraco-Dacian and Slavic genes and cultural traditions.
@Ecoman365 They only bare striking resemblance in the region of Vidin where Wallahs actually are a recognized minority. The folklore in central part of Northern Bulgaria is closer to the folklore of Thrace due to the fact that many people from Eastern Rumelia fled to Northern Bulgaria and Dobrudja before the Unity.
The common points between Bulgarians and Romanians may come from the ancient Thracian/Dacian culture and language. The slavonic words in Romanian are considered in DEX as coming mainly from Bulgarian, but they may come from this ancient common culture.Our folklore too has some similarities. They never conquered us, we never conquered them. I think you should go back in neolithic and ancient history to find some answers to your legitimate questions.
@MrCraiessou I don't think you should go back to ancient history to find where the cultural similarities between Romanians and Bulgarians are. Wallachia was included in the same political unit with Moesia, Thrace, Macedonia, Dobrodja. You can imagine that these people have had grounds for communication between each other, which explains why we have similar town names, similar dances and music to some point and why we even have similar DNA.
@Firewalkerbg This "unit" that you are talking about has its roots in ancient and pre-ancient history when Dacians/Thracians people lived on both sides of Danubian river.They gradually grew apart ,the Slavic element becoming dominant in Bulgaria.But folklore and toponimes stiil keep an echo of those ancient roots.
Bulgarians have zecimated them? Hm. I am 1/4 Vlach, I think they've just assimilated, like many Bulgarians in Romania (Izvoarele near Giurgiu, Branesti, etc.) Of course, now they are recognized, but there are much fewer than in Serbia.
Many also were exchanged with Romania from 1913 to 1940 or emigrated to America. I know of Vlachs who emigrated en mass to Uruguay and Argentina from 1900 to 1925
E adevarat ca bulgarii sunt invatati ca romanii sunt, de fapt, bulgari? Pe langa nationalistii care considera ca "maretul" imperiu bulgar ne-a asimilat(si am reinventat noi, limba romana), am intalnit turisti bulgari, in Romania(prost imbracati si amarati), care voiau sa intrebe ceva. nu stiau nici o limba straina, in schimb se asteptau sa le vorbesc in bulgareste.
the first sentence: no, but some nationalists can say this! clearly romanian is latin , although with slavic and specifically bulgarian words but it doesnt change the base
Yes, I understood 60% after reading carefully, most words are similar to Spanish or English. No-one can deny the existence and history of Romanian, or he is very stupid indeed:) In ALL Balkan countries there are many people with inferiority complex who try to belittle the history of our neighbors. Maybe you've met such people.
Yes, I've met some, including few bulgarians, who have seemed to have no trace of respect for romanians, completely different from you, who are "suspect" of subjectivism(having some vlach blood)
I have reasons to be subjective in the opposite sense, since my father almost never lived with us:)
No indeed, we have some outspoken Balkanists such as Vladimir Georgiev who was a coryphee in Thraco-Miso-Dacology. He wrote that Vlachs survived the turmoil during the 1st millennium by retreating to the mountains from Thessaly to Slovakia and Istria and migrating with their herds seasonally.
There're so many Romanian placenames south of the Danube: the mountain Durmitor in Montenegro, rivers Una & Buna in Bosnia, villages Pasarel & Vakarel around Sofia, Baurene near Vratza! The rest is mythology!
In Romanian history too, there are myths and carefully erased pages, but I leave them to you. Re-writing histrory brings temporary benefits but turns disastrous eventually. Watch what happens with FYRO Macedonia or Moldova
My point about placenames (toponymy) was that they couldn't be there if the Romanian language didn't exist! Also the neighborhood in Sofia called Banishora, where the central prison is
images are not thrue.. images are of Serbian Timoc Peoples... RUMUNI but from Serbia... But The Music.. is from Bulgaria... fom the Rumuni of Bulgarian Timoc , so i said ... the images are false because the music came form Bulgarian Timoc.. and The Images Represents Serbia's TImoc's People !
Confirm spusele lui RomeroRociero. Fotografiile care insotesc materialul audio sunt cu imitatie de port romanesc din Timocul sarbesc, zona montana. Portul romanesc autentic din zona respectiva e mult mai frumos, numai ca ansamblele sarbesti l-au deformat mult prea mult.
asta este din timocul bulgaresc... nu e din timocul sarbesc... si sunt campenii de jos ... infine ... sunt foarte putini ... si prin represiune bulgari au fost si mai ai dracului... macar sarbii i-au izolat complet ( ma rog acum sunt recunoscuti ) desi sunt controversatii multe la adresa lor) dar BUlgarii i-au zecimat cu ziua! infine
хаха музиката на кои оркестър и на кои анс. е???????:)))))))))))
sstania2 3 months ago
Tipical aromanian music!
benzantracen 11 months ago
hahahahahaha Romanian traditional folk song from Bulgaria
kako se to može desit?
zuma0man 1 year ago
Actually, it is often times difficult to distinguish between the Bulgarian folklore of Moesia and the Romanian of Wallachia. The two peoples share a lot of Thraco-Dacian and Slavic genes and cultural traditions.
Ecoman365 1 year ago
@Ecoman365 They only bare striking resemblance in the region of Vidin where Wallahs actually are a recognized minority. The folklore in central part of Northern Bulgaria is closer to the folklore of Thrace due to the fact that many people from Eastern Rumelia fled to Northern Bulgaria and Dobrudja before the Unity.
Firewalkerbg 1 year ago
Wow, I like it very much, it's such a lively joyful song!
HallelujahForEver 1 year ago
this is a very beautiful, lively, joyful music.
thanks for posting
HallelujahForEver 1 year ago
The common points between Bulgarians and Romanians may come from the ancient Thracian/Dacian culture and language. The slavonic words in Romanian are considered in DEX as coming mainly from Bulgarian, but they may come from this ancient common culture.Our folklore too has some similarities. They never conquered us, we never conquered them. I think you should go back in neolithic and ancient history to find some answers to your legitimate questions.
MrCraiessou 2 years ago
@MrCraiessou I don't think you should go back to ancient history to find where the cultural similarities between Romanians and Bulgarians are. Wallachia was included in the same political unit with Moesia, Thrace, Macedonia, Dobrodja. You can imagine that these people have had grounds for communication between each other, which explains why we have similar town names, similar dances and music to some point and why we even have similar DNA.
Firewalkerbg 1 year ago
@Firewalkerbg This "unit" that you are talking about has its roots in ancient and pre-ancient history when Dacians/Thracians people lived on both sides of Danubian river.They gradually grew apart ,the Slavic element becoming dominant in Bulgaria.But folklore and toponimes stiil keep an echo of those ancient roots.
MrCraiessou 1 year ago
Bulgarians have zecimated them? Hm. I am 1/4 Vlach, I think they've just assimilated, like many Bulgarians in Romania (Izvoarele near Giurgiu, Branesti, etc.) Of course, now they are recognized, but there are much fewer than in Serbia.
Many also were exchanged with Romania from 1913 to 1940 or emigrated to America. I know of Vlachs who emigrated en mass to Uruguay and Argentina from 1900 to 1925
Huyedelomalo 2 years ago
E adevarat ca bulgarii sunt invatati ca romanii sunt, de fapt, bulgari? Pe langa nationalistii care considera ca "maretul" imperiu bulgar ne-a asimilat(si am reinventat noi, limba romana), am intalnit turisti bulgari, in Romania(prost imbracati si amarati), care voiau sa intrebe ceva. nu stiau nici o limba straina, in schimb se asteptau sa le vorbesc in bulgareste.
ppnvrd 2 years ago
can you say it in english plz?
the first sentence: no, but some nationalists can say this! clearly romanian is latin , although with slavic and specifically bulgarian words but it doesnt change the base
Huyedelomalo 2 years ago
You understand a bit romanian, or you use a translator?
ppnvrd 2 years ago
there are stupid people everywhere
these were very "prosti"
Huyedelomalo 2 years ago
Yes, I understood 60% after reading carefully, most words are similar to Spanish or English. No-one can deny the existence and history of Romanian, or he is very stupid indeed:) In ALL Balkan countries there are many people with inferiority complex who try to belittle the history of our neighbors. Maybe you've met such people.
Huyedelomalo 2 years ago
Yes, I've met some, including few bulgarians, who have seemed to have no trace of respect for romanians, completely different from you, who are "suspect" of subjectivism(having some vlach blood)
ppnvrd 2 years ago
I have reasons to be subjective in the opposite sense, since my father almost never lived with us:)
No indeed, we have some outspoken Balkanists such as Vladimir Georgiev who was a coryphee in Thraco-Miso-Dacology. He wrote that Vlachs survived the turmoil during the 1st millennium by retreating to the mountains from Thessaly to Slovakia and Istria and migrating with their herds seasonally.
Huyedelomalo 2 years ago
There're so many Romanian placenames south of the Danube: the mountain Durmitor in Montenegro, rivers Una & Buna in Bosnia, villages Pasarel & Vakarel around Sofia, Baurene near Vratza! The rest is mythology!
In Romanian history too, there are myths and carefully erased pages, but I leave them to you. Re-writing histrory brings temporary benefits but turns disastrous eventually. Watch what happens with FYRO Macedonia or Moldova
Huyedelomalo 2 years ago
My point about placenames (toponymy) was that they couldn't be there if the Romanian language didn't exist! Also the neighborhood in Sofia called Banishora, where the central prison is
Huyedelomalo 2 years ago
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Huyedelomalo 2 years ago
if this is supposed to be from northern bulgaria then why are they wearing costumes from the vlashko region of serbia?
AleksFolk1 3 years ago 4
well perhaps this is from north-west of Bg...
DRAGOVODA 3 years ago
images are not thrue.. images are of Serbian Timoc Peoples... RUMUNI but from Serbia... But The Music.. is from Bulgaria... fom the Rumuni of Bulgarian Timoc , so i said ... the images are false because the music came form Bulgarian Timoc.. and The Images Represents Serbia's TImoc's People !
RomeroRociero 2 years ago
the costumes are from Serbia
in Bulgaria we don't have these hats, and women don't wear their kerchiefs this way, this is too Serbian way
AAAND the flag on tha back is Serbian, please
Huyedelomalo 2 years ago
Confirm spusele lui RomeroRociero. Fotografiile care insotesc materialul audio sunt cu imitatie de port romanesc din Timocul sarbesc, zona montana. Portul romanesc autentic din zona respectiva e mult mai frumos, numai ca ansamblele sarbesti l-au deformat mult prea mult.
timoceanul 3 years ago 7
asta este din timocul bulgaresc... nu e din timocul sarbesc... si sunt campenii de jos ... infine ... sunt foarte putini ... si prin represiune bulgari au fost si mai ai dracului... macar sarbii i-au izolat complet ( ma rog acum sunt recunoscuti ) desi sunt controversatii multe la adresa lor) dar BUlgarii i-au zecimat cu ziua! infine
RomeroRociero 3 years ago