F-104 startup

[riderpoet]

The F-104 was designed to do one thing well - go fast. It sacrificed nearly everything else for that characteristic. Now, if your one-way mission is to intercept Russian bombers over northern Canada before they reach the US, then going fast makes sense. But it's an airplane which absolutely does not want to slow down and get into a turning fight with anything. It can, but its stall characteristics are too deadly to encourage pushing its wing into higher angles of attack.

[memo408]

The TF-104 and the F-104s look like great vintage jets. However, I dislike the flight physics of these aircraft. Even the Mig-1 and the Sabre can take-off and land in shorter distances than this jet. :(

However, Still a great jet.

[Gladioter1903]

it's an old wreck

[Chewy2284]

i thinki this should be the plane of choice to destroy tyranny at home and abroad

[favoriteblueshirt]

@Chewy2284 then the F-104 looked at me!

[witzkeyman]

jet fuel burns cool. just another reason why 9/11 was an Inside Job.

[gtchrisb]

Woah, assuming the aircraft(s) were using Jet A, the flash point being 100 degrees f, open air burn temp of roughly 550 degrees, of course that's not enough to "melt" steel. However.....

Throwing a 250,000 lb aircraft into any structure is nothing like hitting a barn wall with a tennis ball friend.

[spins321]

Another thing people tend to ignore with burning jet fuel is that the fire tends to burn other stuff it touches... wood, carpentry, paper, asbestos, oils from waxes and other highly volatile substances, people (unfortunately). I mean, really, how do you make a fire hotter? By throwing other stuff into it. Fuel a fire, and let it burn over a long period of time, it can easily make steel more pliable, thus reducing it's strength.

[randomtask79]

You are so absolutely right, the non-inflamable jet-A1 fuel would never burn at several hundred degrees celsius and the interior of the building is made completely of material that will not burn :-)

As a firefighter I can tell you that steel will bend like rubber at 600°C und its own weight. Get back to school and learn sth. about physics before denying simple facts about fire!

[abominbl]

Bodø MAS is in Norway. And I mean; Will this icon take off in the near future? 2008 for example?

[NorwegianSpirit]

From what Ive heard they hope to fly within a year. I just love this old bird!

[abominbl]

When is this thing goin to fly? Please contact me

[TIXIVS]

This "thing" celebrated its First Flight 50th anniversary in 2004...he took off the runway the first time on March 1954.

[SindreAHN]

Det hva jævlig rått !

En cold start det med flammen....

Det blir for mye ``fuel damp`` og når tenningen kommer blir det bare flammer uten start....

Så han brukte en starter 2 her...

Stod forresten helt til venstre i hangaren.

[cmtecarvalho]

Bodø MAS? Where's that??