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They're just agreeing with the person in the video anyways and he does have those degrees you stuck up little pussy. Where's your proof? Do you even know anything about human history?
Sleepcity is a naive Fuck , don't need those degrees, only common sense. It's not that complicated. So we shouldn't think for our selves just let these pussies arbitrarily label and drug us into submission. You're an ass-kissing little fuck. So only a person with a priest degree can tell if someones possessed or not? Don't think I'll let pussy bully me just because they took a class.
Great video - I only dislike how it brushes off mental illnesses rooted biologically like schizophrenia where describing behavior might actually be helpful
He is so right. Alcoholism is termed a "disease". It's a behavioural problem, that can be cured with a bit of discipline, but to call it a "disease"???
He is a man with good ideas that helped question the practice and brought about changes within the practice. That being said, he is a fanatic and goes over the top and interprets things out of spectrum. I think the fact that he supports a brain-washing cult-like religion, while attacking a practice that he thinks is a brainwasing practice, says a lot about him. Psychiatry and Psychology are not the practices that they were when he first purposed his argument.Very few psychoanalysists left.
Szasz is an interesting person, and some of his arguments have had the effect of reforming psychiatric practice. That said, his crusading against all of psychopharmacology and psychiatry is fallacious and wrong. I appreciate his arguments but am disgusted by his alignment with a religious cult (Scientology). The book Szasz Under Fire explores many of the problems with his all-or-nothing philosophy.
@isometric85 "psychiatry is nonsensical bcoz it doenst adress the cause"
What is "the cause"? The cause of what? What is a more rational way to proceed, if not the same way we do in all other areas of science and medicine? Why is all of psychiatry "nonsensical"? Are there parts that aren't? If so, what are they? What makes the other parts "nonsensical"? You're going to have to do better than badly spelled, one-sentence responses to a VERY complex topic. Where's the reasoning and evidence?
Since it's obvious that the brain does not dictate our thoughts, feelings or behaviors, since we are spiritual and not biological beings, it is absurd to think that mental woes can have origins in the brain /sarcasm. I am extremely, even violently opposed to psychiatry and psych drugs, but I am also quite sure that biological causes will be found for at least some of the symptoms of mental and behavioral problems, but by real scientists and not psychiatrists.
I got myself into a psych ward with deep meditation practices and yoga....Now im deemed as "crazy". Welcome to the matrix everyone. If you play too much with your God given being...you will become trapped in an evil system of control if you are not careful.
@TMOvids Way to totally devalue the actual meaning of a word like "fascism". What's next, are you going to call all psychiatrists "Nazis"? Is there any end to the reflexive, brainless, hyperbole on YouTube?
@sleepcity I don't consider it devaluing. Fascism is extreme authoritarian, intolerant practices. Psychiatry is practically the definition of intolerance as anyone who the psychiatrist finds uncomfortably strange is labelled diseased. Also, in its current form, psychiatry is probably the most authoritarian force. Nobody else can lock an innocent man up and force them to take mind altering substances.
@sleepcity Am I going to call them nazis? No, because that would be inaccurate. There was a link between psychiatry and the original nazis, but psychiatry has more or less distanced itself from them now. I have in the past compared psychiatrists with nazis though - psychiatrists have killed more, deluded more, and taken over more countries. Obviously I say this for emotional impact, but it isn't "brainless hyperbole" as the objective facts do lend themselves to the comparison.
Kids like to PLAY! some of us don't want to conform to social norms and have to sit in the classroom ALL DAMN DAY! it's not like AMERICAN teachers care, OR are doing a great job anyway!
Psychiatry was developed before 1900 in Germany to get rid of people complaining.First use of directed energy weapons can be seen in psychiatric literature from 1908, see Psychiatrie->Zur Klinik der Narkolepsie on my homepage.After murdering oponents in ww2,Psychiatry was relaunched in´45 to persecute+silence concentration camp survivors.
As a Doctor in a German nuthouse said:
Half the inmates are mad.The other half are secret service agents on training.
I can prove their has been, seven genocide's since world war two. ( look it up) people have been labeled witches, heretics, and more. What can they prove?
I am a victim of this non sense. I will never take the crap medication again; it has taken away years of my life that I'll never get back. I'm angry and pissed off.
@tien714 Sounds like your mental illness is SO MUCH BETTER now that you've decided you know more than all of the doctors and researchers in the world combined. You seem really stable and rational....
I never claimed to be an expert but what I do know is that these medication have messed up my life and many others like me. Even psychia-fakes don't know anything about the medications they prescribe; the DSM is a joke based on votes rather than science. There is no chemical imbalance, blood, medical test to prove anything and no science to back up so you tell me. Do your research before you debate with me, got it? GOOD.
@Koppurointi And you say this because you're a psychiatrist? An MD? A Ph.D? Do you even have a bachelor's degree in the sciences? Any professional experience at all upon which to make this grandiose claim?
No? How shocking! I totally didn't see that coming at all!
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We (the common people, not hyper-rich elitist minority, who control the world) are slaves and must keep half sedated by drug industry. Especially those, who try to break free, like black slaves once. Those who ask too many questions, act, like we are not supposed to act, etc. This is what Aldous Huxley talked about half century ago.
omg... adhd is a disease fuckface... and psychiatrists NEVER said blacks wanted to run away because of some kind of disease. What kind of fucking bullshit is this.
@daniel454r ADHD is NOT a disease. 99 times out of 100 it is due to heavy metal toxicity, fluoride exposure, vaccines, consumption of neurotoxins like aspartame and MSG, or foods sprayed with pesticides, fungicides, and larvicides, grown in chemical fertilizers. It's the result of environmental toxins, not a disease. And drapetomania was a real diagnosis. wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Drapetomania . Get off the internet, turn off your TV, and go read a book.
@Breakz23 "ADHD is NOT a disease. 99 times out of 100 it is due to heavy metal toxicity, fluoride exposure, vaccines, consumption of neurotoxins ..."'
Oh do fuck off. You do realize that if you could find evidence for ANY of these absurd claims you'd probably win a Nobel Prize. So? What's stopping you, knowitall? Give me a fucking break. Go get at least an undergrad degree in biology before you continue sputtering more complete conspiratorial bullshit you learned on the internet...
@daniel454r I find it interesting at how emotionally volatile people can be when the legitimacy of ADHD is questioned. I also find it interesting at how these very same people so blindly and obediently follow the God almighty M.D.'s.
@daniel454r "Drapetomania was a supposed mental illness described by American physician Samuel A. Cartwright in 1851 that caused black slaves to flee captivity. Today, drapetomania is considered an example of pseudoscience." [Wikipedia]
Judges and prosecutors, lawyers and psychiatrists, all protest their passionate desire to know why a person accused of a crime did what he did. But their actions completely belie their words: their efforts are now directed toward letting everyone speak in court but the defendant himself -- especially if he is accused of a political or psychiatric crime. -- Thomas Szasz, The Second Sin
@yankonthis That's irrelevant. The fact that the co-founder of CCHR was the late L.Ron Hubbard does NOT change the fact that Big Psychiatry is harming people! BTW,Dr. SZASZ is NOT a Scientologist.....because he is an Atheist (Scientology is a church).
As a psychiatric patient, please do not deprive me of the right to receive help. I have suffered from depression since I was a child. The anxiety that accompanies it is unbearable. My psychiatrist has been able to bring me out of hell, although the side effects are not desirable. I do not know of any other source of help. It is not perfect, but I have not been able to function without the help of my psychiatrist.
Nobody is "depriving" you of the right to receive help. Anyone can learn what a psychiatrist knows and perform the function to help people like you. The point is that these "diseases" are made official, and used to stigmatize people, to "label" them as they make it easy to dismiss them when they act or speak "undesirably", to admit them against their will to a mental hospital, and to poison people with 'medicine' that just like alcohol is not a cure but a behavior modificator.
To continue, just like alcohol, medicine changes behavior so it "appears" the problem is gone. Continued medication is required so long as the behavior without the medication has not "improved". Like staying drunk as long as someone is not behaving "properly" without the booze. Maybe some day they will. If not, keep them intoxicated.
Thomas Szasz, the man in the video, propagates a free society, so he would not deprive you of any right to help with your problems.
It is quite arrogant to say that whole psychiatry is fraud, only because it has quite different principes than ordinary medicine (which for sure should be corrected). I agree, that there are some doctors, that do their jobs just for money, but I disagree, that every psychiatrist is a liar,.. when you heal a patient with cancer, he or she is very gratefull to you, she comes to you to shake hands etc., but when you help/heal psych. patient, he disappears, never talking about institualization :)
Its not important whether certain people with diff personality traits are more reactive to society(thus more prone to certain MI). It's more important that we treat people with kindness and respect their experiences instead of shunning/labeling them. Regardless of whatever predisposition it is, they'll be far more likely to be happy & fulfilled. I'm more concerned with the social disaster of how society deals with MI than 'the truth', even tho its shown that MI is at least largely environmental.
depression is a real dz, because you can die from it.
look at a manic patient and tell me he is not sick and same goes for schizophrenic patient.
countless research is done with drugs like lithium and benefits in patients with mood disorder.
psychiatrist can check thyroid function, testosterone levels in depressed patients
What test do you do for Parkinson patient, Alzheimer dementia, or any other dementia including vascular type. Neurologist treat these diseases all the time - no tests
@neurozero When you die from depression, you die because the psychological torment in your mind is overwhelming. The problem is that these drugs do nothing to treat the actual causes, which are overwhelmingly environmental at the least. Even if people are 'born' with some difference, it doesn't mean that it directly contributed to a mental disorder. It just means that that person is more likely to react poorly to the sum of many situations in many circumstances.
@neurozero But that alone doesn't make them flawed, because they may react better than other in other circumstances. As for the last few examples you gave, those all have proven physical components that are the initiators of the disease. Mental disorders have 'patterns' in the brain that correspond with often subjective diagnoses; a determination can't be made as to what this signifies. Cause or effect? Same with the (very flawed) gene studies. Empathy is a better treatment for these people.
Empathy three times a day will not fix or bring patient to baseline. If you think drugs cant help with Schizophrenic and Bipolar disorder, then I dont know how to convince you. I guess you have to be at a psych ward to see the difference.
For disease like depression there is clear correlation between weight gain and mood, so I always prefer exercise over drugs first, just like in-case of DM or HTN.
@neurozero You're wrong about empathy too. You probably don't even know what I'm talking about since most people lack it. I don't mean sympathetic talk like "oh I understand you so much!" nor do I mean any kind of medical program ("3 times a day" wtf), I mean someone relating deeply to someone with serious problems on a constant, consistent basis. That will help the root cause far more than any drug, And better yet, if empathy happens early, it will prevent or at least help the 'mental illness'
@neurozero And that's why mental illness isn't a disease; it may even be that certain people are more sensitive to the environment...I'll give you that, but the real problem is the sick, twisted society we live in. Creative/intelligent people (especially extremes) are 'oversensitive' to that twistedness (especially since they usually can't do anything about it) and feel the effects of it in many more ways and many more dimensions than 'normal' people. its a normal reaction thats very painful.
psychiatry has different components to it. What I am talking about is mostly about Adult psychiatry, not child psych. For therapy It is always better to see a psychologist (who should work with psychiatrist for further management of the patient).
@neurozero The problem is, more mental hospital visits, more drugs, etc can. just worsen the person's condition over time and can result in them being completely mentally paralyzed in the long run...since psychs will just blame the person's mental illness for the worsening of condition and continue to 'treat' them...
@neurozero Don't put words in my mouth. I never said drugs don't do anything, just that they don't address the root of the problem. They don't. They numb the whole brain or a large part of it and sometimes make the patient more 'stable' but at a heavy price. Society/environment is a huge, huge part of the problem and not addressing it is disastrous. There's a price for everything, but people don't want to admit it because they want to act like they don't have to pay it.
@neurozero To call MI a "genetic disease that can be fixed by drugs" like many psychiatrists do is a slap in the face of those who suffer from it. I know in the bottom of my heart that if people had been kind to me and had tried to understand instead of sticking to their pathetic little comfort zones...little to none of the shit I went through wouldve happened. Drugs are there to ease suffering a bit after, but they're not a substitute for caring and empathy which will never be substituted for.
hypertension, DM and complications of these diseases are multifactorial - genetics is big part. And these are chronic problems can not be cured just like many (but not all) of psychiatric diagnosis like schizo and bipolar. Both schizophrenia and Bipolar have genetic linkage - this research is decades old.
Typical psychiatrist sees 99 patients with drug addiction or personality disorder before they see a one with actual mental illness. It is hard to be empathetic
@neurozero Depends. The 'genetic linkage' you speak of is confirmation biased correlational research which says absolutely nothing about cause. There are several main studies (that are decades old) that are used for the basis of newer 'genetics' studies which leads to further confirmation bias. People with drug problems or personality issues still deserve empathy, again the problem is that most people are just not capable of having it but its the best way to minimize all the suffering.
They should come out with a diagnosis called AZD - Apathetic Zombie Disorder. It's signs and symptoms are watching too much TV, eating GMO foods, drinking water with fluoride, and taking their yearly flu vaccine. In addition, it is characterized by having no regard that they are being led to the slaughter by their elected officials and the elite whom promise to protect their freedom while creating more laws to take them away.
This is incredibly interesting. I'd like to know how he feels about things such as Schizophrenia- I totally agree, Attention Defecit Disorder is not a disease, it's a stigma assigned by people unable to control children the way they'd like, so they Make them. No misbehaviour is a disease or can be, true... But is there a line where maybe drugs should be applied in conjunction with therapies and other active assistance?
@EmeralDWPhoeniX and as a side note, I think it's intriguing that People are so gung-ho on disorders now. I think that the humanitarian reform in,What was it, the early 1800's? is a true testament to the fact that drugs can never be as effective as actual human contact and caring... But is there a degree of using both that can be agreed with? (Note I do know what I'm talking about: Bare this in mind if you reply.)
In today Germany systematic maltreatment of children is organized by the state and executed by snitchers.The psychiatric literature holds many reports of jewish children having been persecuted in exactly this way.Since WW2 psychiatry was regularly misused by Germany to discredit and persecute the NAZI victims.Germany pretended to pay compensation to get the former victims into the hand of shrinks certifying them being mental cases due to persecution.Sometimes they even got some 100$ compensation
I'm open to this point of view (though I prefer Peter Breggin). However if ADHD doesn't have a physical component than how does one explain an "adhd patient's" reaction to stimulant therapy?
He has great points, but many disorders have a physical basis. Of course, the claim that there are 361 "disorders," as specified by the DSM IV is ridiculous, but to deny the existence of any mental illness is naive, and obviously the notion of someone who never experienced severe psychological distress. Psychiatry is a one-trick pony. To understand a phenomenom as complex as mental illness you have to go beyond biochemistry and acknowledge the influence of environmental factors.
@RHCPfan "To understand a phenomenom as complex as mental illness you have to go beyond biochemistry and acknowledge the influence of environmental factors."
this guy is confused, if the disease is a malfunction in the body then a biochemical imbalance in the brain is obviously a disease according to him. I don't think psychiatric disorders are diseases at least not the ones not directly linked to a infection by other organisms. If the condition is not caused by a virus or a bacteria then its a disorder or an imbalance.
well, it's like schizophrenia, the people are somewhat hurt but not insane. Perhaps the poorer ones where it just doesn't matter are less controlled, especially with the new label, but they aren't crazy; they have something like heart disease, just of the mind. I'm just abused then my abusers have to lose responsibility somehow, so they blame me.
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If we can have all these physical health problems than why is everyone convinced problems of the mind cannot exist? There is just as little science and proof behind your theories as there is behind anyone elses. At least there is proof of adhd. Look it up, there is published tests and research that there is a change in blood flow in the frontal lobes between people who have it and people who don't. And what about people who hallucinate? That's just what? Odd behavior?
@softlyserenademe it's a correlation not a cause and effect. Using your ADHD/frontal lobe example, we know that aspirins remedy headaches right? But no-one's suggesting that headaches are caused by a lack of aspirin...What we've got is a ($Bn) industry still in it's infancy drawing conclusions on an untestable brain structure and drawing correlations. If you look at how funding of the research works then you'll see something quite scary - contradictory studies can be ommitted
@Googlystube why should I care how the research is funded? If the symptoms are CLEARLY there, and the medications work, then why the fuck is it such a bad thing? as it has not been bad what so ever in my case. And it is the same in the case of headaches. The symptoms are there and the meds work so why does everyone have to question it like it's some kind of conspiracy against everyone who needs it.
1 - Because research is often promoted by those who profit from it
2 - Because such medications used to treat personality traits have problematic side effects, remember seroxat?
3 - Read up on a wonder drug called Thalidomide that was hailed as a cure all in the 60's for everything from mania to insomnia.
It's not conspiracy against psychiatry, Szasz himself supported that, it's knowing how little the psychiatric field knows about the processes they prescribe these drugs for
Your last statement is patently false, as it is now a matter of fact that our nation has some form of mental health welfarism on the books. The Therapeutic-statists have seen to it to insinuate themselves into the private, as engendered in the community mental health movement. Moreover, your understanding of Szasz is most superficial. Are you making the category mistake of lumping Szasz, as psychiatric abolitionist (against the coercive-carceral nature of psychiatry), with Laing, the Marxist!?
Psychiatric drugs are not well understood. Psychiatric diseases have descriptions that could be applied to anything. I started doubting psychiatry when I got diagnosed 3 different things by different doctors. I experienced the debilitating effects of medication firsthand. I am thankful to my friends for telling me that I am not crazy.
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A lot of folks will say drugs for mental illness have helped people and perhaps even saved lives. I'm not going to comment on that, but simply say that thousands and thousands of people are saved every day by Szasz and others. For so many years as a kid and teenager, I thought I was messed up. Then I discovered Szasz. This later led to Laing and Sartre. In short, I became an extremely happy person because I worked at it and refused to believe I was sick just because I knew sadness.
"The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible."
@alang184 Actually, it sounds as though you've been brainwashed to believe that anything to goes against Psychiatry is actually connected with Scientology. Try a little harder NOT to think for yourself and just become another lemming. You sound like the type of idiot who makes absolute determinations about someone based on one small subtle similarity.. "Scientology hates Psychology/Psychiatry, ergo anyone who disagrees with it is a Scientologist". That's what we call a logical fallacy.
@fzappa007 Your problem is that anyone who finds fault with Psychiatry is immediately equated to a Scientologist. I think just about all religion (barring a few aspects of Buddhism) is utter and complete bullshit, and Scientology is right at the top. You can't possibly make an accurate determination of me and it shows that you've made the wrong one by thinking that I actually am aligned with Scientology. So when you finally grow up and find a way to think logically, you shoot me a line, kid.
@Infinitesimalism you are mistaken on many levels Infintile, you assume i think you are a scientologist, that is the only correct assumption you have made. However i do not believe that all critics of psychiatry are scientologists. I know of many scholars and social scientists who rail on psychiatry day in and day out, and they also condemn scientology with as much fervor. To even consider that scientology has any important relevance in the study of the mind is your worst assumption, punk.
We all know that are millions of mental ill patients (killers, depressed, schizophrenic etc) and most of them get a life much better with psychiatric drugs. Thats what matters to me, you old stupid idiot! Psychiatrists don't have to ask for complementary tests, it's a clinical diagnosis and all of us know someone that is ok now using somekind of mental medication...
@trancebeliever Their entire diagnosis is based upon anecdotal and circumstantial evidence. You realize this is CONTRARY to the scientific method, right? Don't get me wrong, if someone is a maddening, incoherent and violent individual, any method that is closest to humane should be utilized to keep them from entering into any societal venue and murdering or hurting someone but the problem is that these kinds of extremely violent individuals make up the smallest percentile of diagnosees..
I simply do not have time to review this. Stop attacking us. We are M.D.'s ourspecialty is PSYCIATRY. In enemergency medicine you simply win some and you loose some. Pick on a nother occupation. I insist on the insults stopping at once. I am a that medicates children as needed- YES THAT INCLUDES RIDALINE. MEDICATISON THAT BRING RELIFE ARE SPLENDED!
Stand up people. Ask questions. Start looking for the answers. Start thinking for yourself. Get involved.
There is a much bigger issue here that Dr. Szasz is addressing.... from stigmatization, to drugging people-starting in childhood now, to CONTROL of the population through drugs. The good doctor says, these "new diagnoses" are Not illnesses.
Have courage, people. We need to become actively involved in our society, participating in decision-making.
not just psychiatry the whole western medicine is a scam, they only good for broken legs and other accidents, anything chronic stay away from them and find a good naturopath
Einstein... He explained that in the past, it was a disease. Watch the video again when your balls drop. Good Stuff. However, A.D.D is supposedly brought on by a lack of chemicals in the brain. So they say...
LOL. i wana slap this guys ... blacks ran away because of a disease. LMAO. Is he fucking retarded? Who the fuck does this shit think he is? God... he needs to be treated with some drugs...
do u get wat he is trying to say at all...?? he is goin on about the fact that there is label for everything and he disagrees with it... LMAO at ur statement!!!!! and u shouldnt ever call ppl r******d go away and define the word, cause dat word is an insult on so many levels....
I think you missed the whole point of this video. He was saying that back when slaves ran away to freedom, people claimed they had a mental illness. The same with women who rebelled. They were considered "sick" as well. What he's saying is that there's no such thing as mental illness. It's all problems of living. And that's absolutely true. There's no biological way to diagnose someone with a mental disorder. They don't need drugs because it's NOT a disease.
Psychiatry does not label depression or schizophrenia or ADHD as diseases.They are conditions, illnesses, or disorders that requires medical attention. I do believe that most "mental disorders" are a natural adaptations by evolution. However, in our somewhat artificial modern world, these mental conditions are mostly unacceptable and people with such conditions cannot function in society normally. Without any treatment, a schizophrenic is likely to end up living homeless in the street.
I went through psychosis when i was 17 now im schizophrenic. But I'm not schizophrenic! Another few years later I was sick with bronchitis for months and didntt get any sleep, went into mania, then they said i had schizoaffective disorder. Now I'm trying to get off of these damn meds and they have really put me through hell
The fact that our society has such an adverse viewpoint on expressing thoughts and feelings even if they are negative thoughts and feelings says alot of why people go off the deep end. People tend to withdraw themselves from society when they are suffering. When you have too many thoughts about yourself or people around you i think its natural that you will go crazy. (i have experienced one major depressive episode in my life)
i love how people give me shit saying that alzheimer is a real disease but then i say OF COURSE IT IS LOL but behavioral problems is not an illness or a disease.
now you see the DSM today being flooded with the must stupid man conceptualized illnesses known to man like defiant oppositional behavior.
Our money should be dedicated to de-generative brain diseases like Alzheimer which is A SERIOUS BRAIN DISEASE. Well if you start seeing shit then maybe you should get yourself examined.
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@biporio if all of the sudden psychiatrists will prescribe marijuana for depression you won't be so pissed, even thought marijuana gives you permanent brain damage in time, but its cool and interesting because its illegal and all the "cool" people take it and its "natural", you know that cuz you did biology in 6th grade..stupid ignorant prick no one can prove scientifically that you are stupid, mental illness's symptoms are wrong behaviors how you determinate or fix a behavior biologically ?
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@joaoantoniodebarros dude, you have any idea what you're talking about ? 1.who told you those drugs are life-risking ? 2.who said anything about fixing ? you just help them deal with their problems you cant fix the mental problems for them... example: you feel depressed cuz you think you are pathetic and you wanna kill yourself, i try to talk you out of it but you don't believe that life ain't a bitch, how do i convince you ? i can't, i have to show you by giving you drugs that changes your mood
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@joaoantoniodebarros 1.you call me troll but, you keep on fighting with me calling me fascist and have NO argument to my MAIN point...that makes you a troll..2. i think you are trying to look smart (again trolling) cuz you fight a "conspiracy", you don't accept drugs cuz are made by "the man" ,which is good man, you have your own opinion but don't try to convince everybody to belive in what you do because looks a lot like you're part of a sect or something , god heals you , you dont need drugs..
Actually I gave you a lot of examples and explained that trying to control who don't comply with you makes you a fascist. Told you about leaflets info and contradictions of psychiatry. You just don't take it cause you are a troll.
Funny to talk about facts when psychiatry shows none. Search for videos about schizophrenia and adhd fraud and watch them having no answer.
See? I took your bait again and gave information AGAIN. Keep trolling.
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@biporio you're a funny dude ;)), i don't try to control nobody, you are the one with exactly the same comment on all videos about psychiatry trying to force your idea ....."Psychiatry prescribes lethal drugs for mental illness they can't prove scientifically it exists. Period. Everything else is just talking."...i saw this freakin' message in at least 4 videos about psychiatry why the hell do you think i argue only with you and not with anyone else if i'm a troll like you keep saying?? :)))
Let's be objective like my comment in, I believe, almost 10 videos.
Like that simple: show us the scientific proof that bipolar disorder and schizophrenia is caused by a chemical imbalance, as psychiatry states. Is that simple. Show us.
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@biporio there isn't any proof indeed cuz there is no available technology yet is that simple, but only because of your and many other's paranoia, people are not gonna stop getting help for real problems.... did i said paranoia ? isn't that a symptom of schizophrenia ? close to delusional, you can live with that though, is not like its eating your brain or something
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ok man i came to my senses, you are right, bipolar disorder and schizophrenia are not real you dont need help for that, you can treat it at home with prayers and cold showers, after all is not a real biological proven illness so you'll be fine right ? DOWN WITH PSYCHIATRY, join jesus now in our church, the so called "hallucinations" and "delusional behavior" are demons possessing you but we can beat them together and heal...
No need to let it go. What happens here is request for proofs, and not subjective analysis of behavior to diagnose disease.
I'm not trying to convince you about anything. As I see it, I can't. I'm just going into what you say to state little known facts. Like the one you pointed out I use to say in many, many videos.
I'm not saying "stop using drugs" but "psychiatry are full of shit when they say they know the causes and for that you shouldn't believe then".
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dude you imagined a psychiatric version of Josef Mengele....the number of people that are full of shit it's bigger than the number of people that tell the truth that doesn't mean its concentrated more on psychiatry, many MDs prescribe drugs to people that don't need them, just for extra bucks, and those drugs can kill them. it can be any kind of doctor, not only psychiatrist, you shouldn't say all psychiatry is a scam, and they dont give you any help and the drugs they prescribe are lethal
Dude, you are definitely avoiding everything that's said to you. Everything you say was already debunking at previous comments and videos itself, but you keep going with the same.
I'm not more sorry to have wasted our time with this just because we are not the only into this only conversation, as people can read out comments.
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@biporio yeah lets stop here cuz you already called me troll way too many times, you like this word i think, and you can't accept that you have absolutely no clue that your facts are right and you can't accept that your whole idea could be terribly wrong as much as could be right, you try to force your facts like sects force people into their religion, this old dude could be senile and be as much wrong as he could be right, see where i'm going ?real facts are at some level psychiatry helps...
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@biporio for you there is no opinion!!! are only your facts, if you come with real research to proof your point im down on my knees, until than you are the one trolling , i already approved that some psychiatrist can kill you with lethal drugs but you want more, you are anti-psychiatry fanboy and you want all psychiatry to be blamed. i already accepted that they have no proof its chemical imbalance but neither do you that its not !!!....accept you could be wrong or prove me why you can't be!!!
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@biporio if you finish every comment by calling me troll doesnt make people think you're right and you have any idea what you're talking about....or ??? maybe that's what you're thinking, i say it could work, i can't deny this fact
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@joaoantoniodebarros if you abuse those pills (like many people do without the prescription of a psychiatrist or by buying prescriptions) yes you can die....lets say psychiatry is a fraud ok ?, do you think they are stupid to kill you when they need to take the money from you, in the contrary, they would keep you alive so you can provide them with money....
@nothingbutcandy Unless you know something I don't virtually any objective chemical tests have shown that not only are notions that cannabis causes brain damage incorrect, but that it functions as neuroprotective antioxidant in vivo as well as in vitro settings. I'm sorry but while this is generally assumed it is about as reasonable from a physiochemical standpoint as believing that caffeine causes brain damage. One study that hasn't received any attention said it may accelerate neurogenesis.
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@SirLoin21 i have no idea dude, really, i was just giving an example with marijuana , but what you said proves my main point even better, you can't just start saying about drugs that are lethal just because they are drugs or because you hate them for some reason like this dude joaoantoniadeborros that he calls me fascist and troll and ...and thats it !!!! no argument !!!! he keeps bringing up the marijuana thing cuz i did a wrong example and thats all he can argue about...
kevinneslund and I were actually agreeing and not disagreeing. There was this guy named IronMongoose1 that apparently got overwhelmed by how wrong he was defending the suppression of psychiatry that he must have left the discussion. O well.
Thank you kindly. That individual ("IronMongoose") was, I assume, beginning to recognize he was being exposed for what he is in fact -- a clown. As can be seen with my posts (and, I can provide innumerable references and quotes from the world's leading medical schools) I have the support of the leading authorities and institutions in the world. He ("IronMongoose") does not. He's a lone nutcase sitting somewhere making confused, meandering, pointless comments. I wish him well.
@IronMongoose1- He's not coming off stupid. I got 2 likes in a matter of ten minutes from two students in law school because how they admit people is against the 5th and 6th Amendments, and it is becoming more and more apparent that is the case.
the truth an in her embodiment!!!!!!!!!
3457357 3 days ago
You guys should just tell my Aunt that her schizophrenia isn't real, that will help her much more than the mental health system has.
planbskatexx 1 week ago
this man knows what he's talking about
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JAVIER24074 1 month ago
He has very valid, yet also dangerous points.
charmed1171 1 month ago
Ron Paul 2012
Thomas Szasz 2012
RunLiberty 2 months ago 2
They're just agreeing with the person in the video anyways and he does have those degrees you stuck up little pussy. Where's your proof? Do you even know anything about human history?
MrButtlettuce 2 months ago
Sleepcity is a naive Fuck , don't need those degrees, only common sense. It's not that complicated. So we shouldn't think for our selves just let these pussies arbitrarily label and drug us into submission. You're an ass-kissing little fuck. So only a person with a priest degree can tell if someones possessed or not? Don't think I'll let pussy bully me just because they took a class.
MrButtlettuce 2 months ago
Great video - I only dislike how it brushes off mental illnesses rooted biologically like schizophrenia where describing behavior might actually be helpful
mega17 4 months ago
He is so right. Alcoholism is termed a "disease". It's a behavioural problem, that can be cured with a bit of discipline, but to call it a "disease"???
skeetereze 4 months ago
I love this man. I'm currently reading his "Ceremonial Chemistry". Excellent book.
znikacz 4 months ago
He is a man with good ideas that helped question the practice and brought about changes within the practice. That being said, he is a fanatic and goes over the top and interprets things out of spectrum. I think the fact that he supports a brain-washing cult-like religion, while attacking a practice that he thinks is a brainwasing practice, says a lot about him. Psychiatry and Psychology are not the practices that they were when he first purposed his argument.Very few psychoanalysists left.
sbrown137988 4 months ago
Szasz is an interesting person, and some of his arguments have had the effect of reforming psychiatric practice. That said, his crusading against all of psychopharmacology and psychiatry is fallacious and wrong. I appreciate his arguments but am disgusted by his alignment with a religious cult (Scientology). The book Szasz Under Fire explores many of the problems with his all-or-nothing philosophy.
sleepcity 4 months ago
@sleepcity but scienetology ahsnt done anyworng
isometric85 3 months ago
@isometric85 I'm sorry, I don't really know how to respond to nonsensical gibberish.
sleepcity 3 months ago
@sleepcity psychiatry is nonsensical bcoz it doenst adress the cause
isometric85 3 months ago
@isometric85 "psychiatry is nonsensical bcoz it doenst adress the cause"
What is "the cause"? The cause of what? What is a more rational way to proceed, if not the same way we do in all other areas of science and medicine? Why is all of psychiatry "nonsensical"? Are there parts that aren't? If so, what are they? What makes the other parts "nonsensical"? You're going to have to do better than badly spelled, one-sentence responses to a VERY complex topic. Where's the reasoning and evidence?
sleepcity 2 months ago
@sleepcity why dont u spend anight in psychiatric ward and understand it...
isometric85 2 months ago
TIme to eradicate social workers.
Karen J. Dawe
Isabella14379 5 months ago
A great classic speech!
BluePanthersParty 6 months ago
Dr Thomas Szasz is a psychiatrist.
alexgoldsworthy 6 months ago
Since it's obvious that the brain does not dictate our thoughts, feelings or behaviors, since we are spiritual and not biological beings, it is absurd to think that mental woes can have origins in the brain /sarcasm. I am extremely, even violently opposed to psychiatry and psych drugs, but I am also quite sure that biological causes will be found for at least some of the symptoms of mental and behavioral problems, but by real scientists and not psychiatrists.
M1thotyn 6 months ago
I got myself into a psych ward with deep meditation practices and yoga....Now im deemed as "crazy". Welcome to the matrix everyone. If you play too much with your God given being...you will become trapped in an evil system of control if you are not careful.
ProtoGrey 6 months ago
@ProtoGrey Right...those cops and emergency personnel are always hunting yoga practitioners for meditating.
sleepcity 4 months ago
Anybody know if there are any psychiatry survivors groups in the UK? I've lost 3 years of my life to their chemical fascism.
TMOvids 7 months ago
@TMOvids Way to totally devalue the actual meaning of a word like "fascism". What's next, are you going to call all psychiatrists "Nazis"? Is there any end to the reflexive, brainless, hyperbole on YouTube?
sleepcity 2 months ago
@sleepcity I don't consider it devaluing. Fascism is extreme authoritarian, intolerant practices. Psychiatry is practically the definition of intolerance as anyone who the psychiatrist finds uncomfortably strange is labelled diseased. Also, in its current form, psychiatry is probably the most authoritarian force. Nobody else can lock an innocent man up and force them to take mind altering substances.
TMOvids 2 months ago
@sleepcity Am I going to call them nazis? No, because that would be inaccurate. There was a link between psychiatry and the original nazis, but psychiatry has more or less distanced itself from them now. I have in the past compared psychiatrists with nazis though - psychiatrists have killed more, deluded more, and taken over more countries. Obviously I say this for emotional impact, but it isn't "brainless hyperbole" as the objective facts do lend themselves to the comparison.
TMOvids 2 months ago
Kids like to PLAY! some of us don't want to conform to social norms and have to sit in the classroom ALL DAMN DAY! it's not like AMERICAN teachers care, OR are doing a great job anyway!
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SirJesusMonkey 8 months ago
epic win.
evilresidence4 8 months ago
I can prove their has been, seven genocide's since world war two. ( look it up) people have been labeled witches, heretics, and more. What can they prove?
MrButtlettuce 8 months ago
I am a victim of this non sense. I will never take the crap medication again; it has taken away years of my life that I'll never get back. I'm angry and pissed off.
tien714 8 months ago 10
@tien714 Sounds like your mental illness is SO MUCH BETTER now that you've decided you know more than all of the doctors and researchers in the world combined. You seem really stable and rational....
sleepcity 3 months ago
@sleepcity
I never claimed to be an expert but what I do know is that these medication have messed up my life and many others like me. Even psychia-fakes don't know anything about the medications they prescribe; the DSM is a joke based on votes rather than science. There is no chemical imbalance, blood, medical test to prove anything and no science to back up so you tell me. Do your research before you debate with me, got it? GOOD.
tien714 3 months ago
ADHD Is a one big SCAM!
Koppurointi 9 months ago
@Koppurointi And you say this because you're a psychiatrist? An MD? A Ph.D? Do you even have a bachelor's degree in the sciences? Any professional experience at all upon which to make this grandiose claim?
No? How shocking! I totally didn't see that coming at all!
sleepcity 3 months ago
@sleepcity I don't have any of those paper's but this guy has. Check this video and you see the trut and the truth shall set you free.
John Virapen on Big Pharma part 1 of 4
watch?v=M8ZFUq5hr7E
Koppurointi 2 months ago
I bribed a Swedish professor to enhance the registration of Prozac in Sweden.
—John Virapen
After 35 years in the pharmaceutical industry internationally (most notably as general manager of Eli Lilly and Company in Sweden), Virapen comes clean and exposes one of the big secrets of Big Pharma: they want to keep people sick to make money.
John Virapen on Big Pharma part 1 of 4
watch?v=M8ZFUq5hr7E
Koppurointi 9 months ago
We (the common people, not hyper-rich elitist minority, who control the world) are slaves and must keep half sedated by drug industry. Especially those, who try to break free, like black slaves once. Those who ask too many questions, act, like we are not supposed to act, etc. This is what Aldous Huxley talked about half century ago.
Quex01 9 months ago
omg... adhd is a disease fuckface... and psychiatrists NEVER said blacks wanted to run away because of some kind of disease. What kind of fucking bullshit is this.
daniel454r 1 year ago
@daniel454r ADHD is NOT a disease. 99 times out of 100 it is due to heavy metal toxicity, fluoride exposure, vaccines, consumption of neurotoxins like aspartame and MSG, or foods sprayed with pesticides, fungicides, and larvicides, grown in chemical fertilizers. It's the result of environmental toxins, not a disease. And drapetomania was a real diagnosis. wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Drapetomania . Get off the internet, turn off your TV, and go read a book.
Breakz23 11 months ago
@Breakz23 "ADHD is NOT a disease. 99 times out of 100 it is due to heavy metal toxicity, fluoride exposure, vaccines, consumption of neurotoxins ..."'
Oh do fuck off. You do realize that if you could find evidence for ANY of these absurd claims you'd probably win a Nobel Prize. So? What's stopping you, knowitall? Give me a fucking break. Go get at least an undergrad degree in biology before you continue sputtering more complete conspiratorial bullshit you learned on the internet...
sleepcity 3 months ago
@daniel454r I find it interesting at how emotionally volatile people can be when the legitimacy of ADHD is questioned. I also find it interesting at how these very same people so blindly and obediently follow the God almighty M.D.'s.
ksmithdc 11 months ago
@daniel454r "Drapetomania was a supposed mental illness described by American physician Samuel A. Cartwright in 1851 that caused black slaves to flee captivity. Today, drapetomania is considered an example of pseudoscience." [Wikipedia]
Fuckface.
heartattackstroke 10 months ago
@daniel454r last I heard ADHD is a disorder, hence the name
TheLuchez 10 months ago
Judges and prosecutors, lawyers and psychiatrists, all protest their passionate desire to know why a person accused of a crime did what he did. But their actions completely belie their words: their efforts are now directed toward letting everyone speak in court but the defendant himself -- especially if he is accused of a political or psychiatric crime. -- Thomas Szasz, The Second Sin
nicmart 1 year ago
cchr is affiliated with scientology
yankonthis 1 year ago
@yankonthis That's irrelevant. The fact that the co-founder of CCHR was the late L.Ron Hubbard does NOT change the fact that Big Psychiatry is harming people! BTW,Dr. SZASZ is NOT a Scientologist.....because he is an Atheist (Scientology is a church).
RonaldVaughan 10 months ago
@RonaldVaughan scientology is called a church because they wanted tax exemption good day
yankonthis 10 months ago
As a psychiatric patient, please do not deprive me of the right to receive help. I have suffered from depression since I was a child. The anxiety that accompanies it is unbearable. My psychiatrist has been able to bring me out of hell, although the side effects are not desirable. I do not know of any other source of help. It is not perfect, but I have not been able to function without the help of my psychiatrist.
calvinsman 1 year ago
@calvinsman
Nobody is "depriving" you of the right to receive help. Anyone can learn what a psychiatrist knows and perform the function to help people like you. The point is that these "diseases" are made official, and used to stigmatize people, to "label" them as they make it easy to dismiss them when they act or speak "undesirably", to admit them against their will to a mental hospital, and to poison people with 'medicine' that just like alcohol is not a cure but a behavior modificator.
tridentmovies 1 year ago
@calvinsman
To continue, just like alcohol, medicine changes behavior so it "appears" the problem is gone. Continued medication is required so long as the behavior without the medication has not "improved". Like staying drunk as long as someone is not behaving "properly" without the booze. Maybe some day they will. If not, keep them intoxicated.
Thomas Szasz, the man in the video, propagates a free society, so he would not deprive you of any right to help with your problems.
tridentmovies 1 year ago
It is quite arrogant to say that whole psychiatry is fraud, only because it has quite different principes than ordinary medicine (which for sure should be corrected). I agree, that there are some doctors, that do their jobs just for money, but I disagree, that every psychiatrist is a liar,.. when you heal a patient with cancer, he or she is very gratefull to you, she comes to you to shake hands etc., but when you help/heal psych. patient, he disappears, never talking about institualization :)
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starseedleo 1 year ago
Its not important whether certain people with diff personality traits are more reactive to society(thus more prone to certain MI). It's more important that we treat people with kindness and respect their experiences instead of shunning/labeling them. Regardless of whatever predisposition it is, they'll be far more likely to be happy & fulfilled. I'm more concerned with the social disaster of how society deals with MI than 'the truth', even tho its shown that MI is at least largely environmental.
sociopathicregret 1 year ago 2
depression is a real dz, because you can die from it.
look at a manic patient and tell me he is not sick and same goes for schizophrenic patient.
countless research is done with drugs like lithium and benefits in patients with mood disorder.
psychiatrist can check thyroid function, testosterone levels in depressed patients
What test do you do for Parkinson patient, Alzheimer dementia, or any other dementia including vascular type. Neurologist treat these diseases all the time - no tests
neurozero 1 year ago
@neurozero When you die from depression, you die because the psychological torment in your mind is overwhelming. The problem is that these drugs do nothing to treat the actual causes, which are overwhelmingly environmental at the least. Even if people are 'born' with some difference, it doesn't mean that it directly contributed to a mental disorder. It just means that that person is more likely to react poorly to the sum of many situations in many circumstances.
sociopathicregret 1 year ago
@neurozero But that alone doesn't make them flawed, because they may react better than other in other circumstances. As for the last few examples you gave, those all have proven physical components that are the initiators of the disease. Mental disorders have 'patterns' in the brain that correspond with often subjective diagnoses; a determination can't be made as to what this signifies. Cause or effect? Same with the (very flawed) gene studies. Empathy is a better treatment for these people.
sociopathicregret 1 year ago
@sociopathicregret
Empathy three times a day will not fix or bring patient to baseline. If you think drugs cant help with Schizophrenic and Bipolar disorder, then I dont know how to convince you. I guess you have to be at a psych ward to see the difference.
For disease like depression there is clear correlation between weight gain and mood, so I always prefer exercise over drugs first, just like in-case of DM or HTN.
neurozero 1 year ago
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sociopathicregret 1 year ago
@neurozero You're wrong about empathy too. You probably don't even know what I'm talking about since most people lack it. I don't mean sympathetic talk like "oh I understand you so much!" nor do I mean any kind of medical program ("3 times a day" wtf), I mean someone relating deeply to someone with serious problems on a constant, consistent basis. That will help the root cause far more than any drug, And better yet, if empathy happens early, it will prevent or at least help the 'mental illness'
sociopathicregret 1 year ago
@neurozero And that's why mental illness isn't a disease; it may even be that certain people are more sensitive to the environment...I'll give you that, but the real problem is the sick, twisted society we live in. Creative/intelligent people (especially extremes) are 'oversensitive' to that twistedness (especially since they usually can't do anything about it) and feel the effects of it in many more ways and many more dimensions than 'normal' people. its a normal reaction thats very painful.
sociopathicregret 1 year ago
@sociopathicregret
psychiatry has different components to it. What I am talking about is mostly about Adult psychiatry, not child psych. For therapy It is always better to see a psychologist (who should work with psychiatrist for further management of the patient).
neurozero 1 year ago
@neurozero The problem is, more mental hospital visits, more drugs, etc can. just worsen the person's condition over time and can result in them being completely mentally paralyzed in the long run...since psychs will just blame the person's mental illness for the worsening of condition and continue to 'treat' them...
sociopathicregret 1 year ago
@neurozero Don't put words in my mouth. I never said drugs don't do anything, just that they don't address the root of the problem. They don't. They numb the whole brain or a large part of it and sometimes make the patient more 'stable' but at a heavy price. Society/environment is a huge, huge part of the problem and not addressing it is disastrous. There's a price for everything, but people don't want to admit it because they want to act like they don't have to pay it.
sociopathicregret 1 year ago
@neurozero To call MI a "genetic disease that can be fixed by drugs" like many psychiatrists do is a slap in the face of those who suffer from it. I know in the bottom of my heart that if people had been kind to me and had tried to understand instead of sticking to their pathetic little comfort zones...little to none of the shit I went through wouldve happened. Drugs are there to ease suffering a bit after, but they're not a substitute for caring and empathy which will never be substituted for.
sociopathicregret 1 year ago 3
@sociopathicregret
hypertension, DM and complications of these diseases are multifactorial - genetics is big part. And these are chronic problems can not be cured just like many (but not all) of psychiatric diagnosis like schizo and bipolar. Both schizophrenia and Bipolar have genetic linkage - this research is decades old.
Typical psychiatrist sees 99 patients with drug addiction or personality disorder before they see a one with actual mental illness. It is hard to be empathetic
neurozero 1 year ago
@neurozero Depends. The 'genetic linkage' you speak of is confirmation biased correlational research which says absolutely nothing about cause. There are several main studies (that are decades old) that are used for the basis of newer 'genetics' studies which leads to further confirmation bias. People with drug problems or personality issues still deserve empathy, again the problem is that most people are just not capable of having it but its the best way to minimize all the suffering.
sociopathicregret 1 year ago
They should come out with a diagnosis called AZD - Apathetic Zombie Disorder. It's signs and symptoms are watching too much TV, eating GMO foods, drinking water with fluoride, and taking their yearly flu vaccine. In addition, it is characterized by having no regard that they are being led to the slaughter by their elected officials and the elite whom promise to protect their freedom while creating more laws to take them away.
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emerson24 1 year ago
This is incredibly interesting. I'd like to know how he feels about things such as Schizophrenia- I totally agree, Attention Defecit Disorder is not a disease, it's a stigma assigned by people unable to control children the way they'd like, so they Make them. No misbehaviour is a disease or can be, true... But is there a line where maybe drugs should be applied in conjunction with therapies and other active assistance?
EmeralDWPhoeniX 1 year ago
@EmeralDWPhoeniX and as a side note, I think it's intriguing that People are so gung-ho on disorders now. I think that the humanitarian reform in,What was it, the early 1800's? is a true testament to the fact that drugs can never be as effective as actual human contact and caring... But is there a degree of using both that can be agreed with? (Note I do know what I'm talking about: Bare this in mind if you reply.)
EmeralDWPhoeniX 1 year ago
In today Germany systematic maltreatment of children is organized by the state and executed by snitchers.The psychiatric literature holds many reports of jewish children having been persecuted in exactly this way.Since WW2 psychiatry was regularly misused by Germany to discredit and persecute the NAZI victims.Germany pretended to pay compensation to get the former victims into the hand of shrinks certifying them being mental cases due to persecution.Sometimes they even got some 100$ compensation
wwwtotalitaerde 1 year ago
I'm open to this point of view (though I prefer Peter Breggin). However if ADHD doesn't have a physical component than how does one explain an "adhd patient's" reaction to stimulant therapy?
Drummin4justice 1 year ago
He has great points, but many disorders have a physical basis. Of course, the claim that there are 361 "disorders," as specified by the DSM IV is ridiculous, but to deny the existence of any mental illness is naive, and obviously the notion of someone who never experienced severe psychological distress. Psychiatry is a one-trick pony. To understand a phenomenom as complex as mental illness you have to go beyond biochemistry and acknowledge the influence of environmental factors.
RHCPfan 1 year ago
@RHCPfan "To understand a phenomenom as complex as mental illness you have to go beyond biochemistry and acknowledge the influence of environmental factors."
That helped to clarify.
whiff1962 1 year ago
this guy is confused, if the disease is a malfunction in the body then a biochemical imbalance in the brain is obviously a disease according to him. I don't think psychiatric disorders are diseases at least not the ones not directly linked to a infection by other organisms. If the condition is not caused by a virus or a bacteria then its a disorder or an imbalance.
ro3ox 1 year ago
Hmm you telling me people who hear voices aren't mentally ill?... Damn this Dr. is a retard.
3nderoX 1 year ago
@3nderoX
Why is it that you think name calling is a progressive way
to proceed on this very important issue for mankind?
aLitteTooMuch 1 year ago
I love this factual informaion.
CornellNava 1 year ago
well, it's like schizophrenia, the people are somewhat hurt but not insane. Perhaps the poorer ones where it just doesn't matter are less controlled, especially with the new label, but they aren't crazy; they have something like heart disease, just of the mind. I'm just abused then my abusers have to lose responsibility somehow, so they blame me.
returnoftheramble3 1 year ago
ADHD is usually a bullshit diagnosis, but I'm burying it anyway for being Scientology propaganda.
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mykhan2002 1 year ago
If we can have all these physical health problems than why is everyone convinced problems of the mind cannot exist? There is just as little science and proof behind your theories as there is behind anyone elses. At least there is proof of adhd. Look it up, there is published tests and research that there is a change in blood flow in the frontal lobes between people who have it and people who don't. And what about people who hallucinate? That's just what? Odd behavior?
softlyserenademe 1 year ago
@softlyserenademe it's a correlation not a cause and effect. Using your ADHD/frontal lobe example, we know that aspirins remedy headaches right? But no-one's suggesting that headaches are caused by a lack of aspirin...What we've got is a ($Bn) industry still in it's infancy drawing conclusions on an untestable brain structure and drawing correlations. If you look at how funding of the research works then you'll see something quite scary - contradictory studies can be ommitted
Googlystube 1 year ago 20
@Googlystube why should I care how the research is funded? If the symptoms are CLEARLY there, and the medications work, then why the fuck is it such a bad thing? as it has not been bad what so ever in my case. And it is the same in the case of headaches. The symptoms are there and the meds work so why does everyone have to question it like it's some kind of conspiracy against everyone who needs it.
softlyserenademe 1 year ago
@softlyserenademe
1 - Because research is often promoted by those who profit from it
2 - Because such medications used to treat personality traits have problematic side effects, remember seroxat?
3 - Read up on a wonder drug called Thalidomide that was hailed as a cure all in the 60's for everything from mania to insomnia.
It's not conspiracy against psychiatry, Szasz himself supported that, it's knowing how little the psychiatric field knows about the processes they prescribe these drugs for
Googlystube 1 year ago
@Googlystube btw they do know how to test for disorders like bipolar and epilepsy with fmris which measures chemical reactions in the brain.
softlyserenademe 1 year ago
@Googlystube its called placebo's...this is how they test if the drug makes a difference...unfrekinbelieveable
aahatch 6 months ago
USA a planet virus! All earth on fire from for your damned nation! I do not know as still to express the anger in your poor language.
TheOposumxd 1 year ago
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rexxar2 1 year ago
Psychiatrists are DESTROYING our society and civilization. Time to eradicate them.
draziom902 1 year ago 18
@draziom902 I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!
I head that an evil man named Col. Reed started that whole thing with his "Master Plan" way back in the
Thirties and Forties. If one were persecuted by Psychiatry in the old Soviet Union,we in the USA would
call that "brainwashing". But if it happened here in the USA,some would call it "treatment". Hypocritical.
Although Dr. SZASZ is for "good,voluntary psychiatry" it usually doesn't happen that way. His objections
still stand,even after 50 years!!
RonaldVaughan 10 months ago
@draziom902 as scietologist we must unite and eradicate the psychiatrists
yankonthis 10 months ago
@draziom902 damn scietologists
yankonthis 6 months ago
Whiff1962. I have no intention, having read your many heavily prejudiced and personal politically influenced comments,
of debating issues on which-in your case- it would be a complete.waste of my time. I prefer to ignore deluded pseudo intellectuals.
golsno147 1 year ago
Your last statement is patently false, as it is now a matter of fact that our nation has some form of mental health welfarism on the books. The Therapeutic-statists have seen to it to insinuate themselves into the private, as engendered in the community mental health movement. Moreover, your understanding of Szasz is most superficial. Are you making the category mistake of lumping Szasz, as psychiatric abolitionist (against the coercive-carceral nature of psychiatry), with Laing, the Marxist!?
whiff1962 1 year ago
Psychiatric drugs are not well understood. Psychiatric diseases have descriptions that could be applied to anything. I started doubting psychiatry when I got diagnosed 3 different things by different doctors. I experienced the debilitating effects of medication firsthand. I am thankful to my friends for telling me that I am not crazy.
rolfen 1 year ago
so true
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We are programed to believe that capitalism is the only way that humanity can provide for its material and spiritual needs. It is the acceptance and internalisation of false and dangerous beliefs that is destroying ourselves and our natural enviornment. Capitalism is a parasitic system destroying our world.
arzoyan 1 year ago
A lot of folks will say drugs for mental illness have helped people and perhaps even saved lives. I'm not going to comment on that, but simply say that thousands and thousands of people are saved every day by Szasz and others. For so many years as a kid and teenager, I thought I was messed up. Then I discovered Szasz. This later led to Laing and Sartre. In short, I became an extremely happy person because I worked at it and refused to believe I was sick just because I knew sadness.
WhiteAbenaki 1 year ago
@WhiteAbenaki Those who know sadness can also know happiness in its truer form my friend
Spoonman518 1 year ago 2
"The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible."
Bertrand Russell
MuddyTonic 1 year ago
we need more people like Dr Szasz
richard2humphry 1 year ago
This is more Scientology bullshit. Brainwashed, hypnotic induction.
alang184 1 year ago
@alang184 Actually, it sounds as though you've been brainwashed to believe that anything to goes against Psychiatry is actually connected with Scientology. Try a little harder NOT to think for yourself and just become another lemming. You sound like the type of idiot who makes absolute determinations about someone based on one small subtle similarity.. "Scientology hates Psychology/Psychiatry, ergo anyone who disagrees with it is a Scientologist". That's what we call a logical fallacy.
Infinitesimalism 1 year ago
@Infinitesimalism no Actually alang184 is quite correct, and you are the type of idiot that believes everything the cult tells you.
fzappa007 1 year ago
@fzappa007 Your problem is that anyone who finds fault with Psychiatry is immediately equated to a Scientologist. I think just about all religion (barring a few aspects of Buddhism) is utter and complete bullshit, and Scientology is right at the top. You can't possibly make an accurate determination of me and it shows that you've made the wrong one by thinking that I actually am aligned with Scientology. So when you finally grow up and find a way to think logically, you shoot me a line, kid.
Infinitesimalism 1 year ago
@Infinitesimalism you are mistaken on many levels Infintile, you assume i think you are a scientologist, that is the only correct assumption you have made. However i do not believe that all critics of psychiatry are scientologists. I know of many scholars and social scientists who rail on psychiatry day in and day out, and they also condemn scientology with as much fervor. To even consider that scientology has any important relevance in the study of the mind is your worst assumption, punk.
fzappa007 1 year ago
We all know that are millions of mental ill patients (killers, depressed, schizophrenic etc) and most of them get a life much better with psychiatric drugs. Thats what matters to me, you old stupid idiot! Psychiatrists don't have to ask for complementary tests, it's a clinical diagnosis and all of us know someone that is ok now using somekind of mental medication...
trancebeliever 1 year ago 2
@trancebeliever Their entire diagnosis is based upon anecdotal and circumstantial evidence. You realize this is CONTRARY to the scientific method, right? Don't get me wrong, if someone is a maddening, incoherent and violent individual, any method that is closest to humane should be utilized to keep them from entering into any societal venue and murdering or hurting someone but the problem is that these kinds of extremely violent individuals make up the smallest percentile of diagnosees..
Infinitesimalism 1 year ago
Antipsychotics -cause all kinds of damaging side effects like Tardive dyskinesia, lowered life expectancy, diabetes among other side effects.
SSRI' antidepressants- like Prozac can cause people to become aggressive, violent and suicidal.
Benzodiazepines- like valium can cause addiction.
These are just some of the dangers of psychiatric drugs
Psychiatric drugs nearly killed me when I was given prozac for depression, I almost cut my wrists, I would never get involved withpsychiatryagain.
madbandicooot 1 year ago
I simply do not have time to review this. Stop attacking us. We are M.D.'s ourspecialty is PSYCIATRY. In enemergency medicine you simply win some and you loose some. Pick on a nother occupation. I insist on the insults stopping at once. I am a that medicates children as needed- YES THAT INCLUDES RIDALINE. MEDICATISON THAT BRING RELIFE ARE SPLENDED!
benmdnp755 1 year ago
@benmdnp755 For a medical professional, you do have some glaring difficulty with English grammar and spelling.
Infinitesimalism 1 year ago
Because I hear it in the ear, the mike is brought close to the ear and it doesn't record.
Do not speak ill and do not return it.
Even we are men.
It hits by about one and damage is received.
Make the psychiatrist hear the recording if a strange voice is heard.
It doesn't up-load it on the Internet.
ero69ero69 1 year ago
@ero69ero69
It was possible
have recorded
jirotantan 1 year ago
It's all about MIND CONTROL, people. Through drugs. Specially in schools.
LesPaul2006 1 year ago
Ron Paul is a fan of Szasz
BraveNewLiberty 1 year ago
To combat psychiatric coersion.
Stand up people. Ask questions. Start looking for the answers. Start thinking for yourself. Get involved.
There is a much bigger issue here that Dr. Szasz is addressing.... from stigmatization, to drugging people-starting in childhood now, to CONTROL of the population through drugs. The good doctor says, these "new diagnoses" are Not illnesses.
Have courage, people. We need to become actively involved in our society, participating in decision-making.
bettinakitty 1 year ago
...el estudio de la locura no produce cordura...!!
jerrylogon 1 year ago
not just psychiatry the whole western medicine is a scam, they only good for broken legs and other accidents, anything chronic stay away from them and find a good naturopath
jeka100 1 year ago
Einstein... He explained that in the past, it was a disease. Watch the video again when your balls drop. Good Stuff. However, A.D.D is supposedly brought on by a lack of chemicals in the brain. So they say...
ProfessorSeuss 1 year ago
LOL. i wana slap this guys ... blacks ran away because of a disease. LMAO. Is he fucking retarded? Who the fuck does this shit think he is? God... he needs to be treated with some drugs...
daniel454r 1 year ago
@daniel454r
do u get wat he is trying to say at all...?? he is goin on about the fact that there is label for everything and he disagrees with it... LMAO at ur statement!!!!! and u shouldnt ever call ppl r******d go away and define the word, cause dat word is an insult on so many levels....
jmcy2j 1 year ago
@daniel454r
I think you missed the whole point of this video. He was saying that back when slaves ran away to freedom, people claimed they had a mental illness. The same with women who rebelled. They were considered "sick" as well. What he's saying is that there's no such thing as mental illness. It's all problems of living. And that's absolutely true. There's no biological way to diagnose someone with a mental disorder. They don't need drugs because it's NOT a disease.
lbwhite89 1 year ago
Psychiatry does not label depression or schizophrenia or ADHD as diseases.They are conditions, illnesses, or disorders that requires medical attention. I do believe that most "mental disorders" are a natural adaptations by evolution. However, in our somewhat artificial modern world, these mental conditions are mostly unacceptable and people with such conditions cannot function in society normally. Without any treatment, a schizophrenic is likely to end up living homeless in the street.
buddhasknowbest 1 year ago
a good site is antipsychiatry . org and also peter breggin sites - breggin. org
madbandicooot 1 year ago
I respect this man!
mistretristre 1 year ago
he´s one of the few genioses in the world :) ;)
DRRS777 1 year ago
I went through psychosis when i was 17 now im schizophrenic. But I'm not schizophrenic! Another few years later I was sick with bronchitis for months and didntt get any sleep, went into mania, then they said i had schizoaffective disorder. Now I'm trying to get off of these damn meds and they have really put me through hell
blackkat77 1 year ago
@blackkat77 sorry to hear that, Iv'e suffered with psychosis, but my worst experience of all have been with drugs :(
madbandicooot 1 year ago
@madbandicooot wow.. i think this must happen a lot. I dont know what the doctors are trying to do to us.
blackkat77 1 year ago
WOW! Great upload.
I created a related ThereAreNoSides video. Search for; TANS004.
Much Love
ThereAreNoSides 1 year ago
Yes, yes, yes. Nothing to add on.
ipublica 1 year ago
I uploaded a 3 part audio interview with Szasz.
ElectroPaganAnon 1 year ago
The fact that our society has such an adverse viewpoint on expressing thoughts and feelings even if they are negative thoughts and feelings says alot of why people go off the deep end. People tend to withdraw themselves from society when they are suffering. When you have too many thoughts about yourself or people around you i think its natural that you will go crazy. (i have experienced one major depressive episode in my life)
Diazt3r 1 year ago
i love how people give me shit saying that alzheimer is a real disease but then i say OF COURSE IT IS LOL but behavioral problems is not an illness or a disease.
now you see the DSM today being flooded with the must stupid man conceptualized illnesses known to man like defiant oppositional behavior.
Our money should be dedicated to de-generative brain diseases like Alzheimer which is A SERIOUS BRAIN DISEASE. Well if you start seeing shit then maybe you should get yourself examined.
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Diazt3r 1 year ago
Psychiatry prescribes lethal drugs for mental illness they can't prove scientifically it exists. Period. Everything else is just talking.
biporio 2 years ago 23
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@biporio if all of the sudden psychiatrists will prescribe marijuana for depression you won't be so pissed, even thought marijuana gives you permanent brain damage in time, but its cool and interesting because its illegal and all the "cool" people take it and its "natural", you know that cuz you did biology in 6th grade..stupid ignorant prick no one can prove scientifically that you are stupid, mental illness's symptoms are wrong behaviors how you determinate or fix a behavior biologically ?
nothingbutcandy 1 year ago
@nothingbutcandy
1. Ranting never proved anything.
2. Wow, marijuana for depression would really fix it wouldn't?
3. I don't use nor like marijuana.
4. That's why you shouldn't call anyone stupid?
5. Define wrong behaviour. Then, explaing why someone should take life-risking drugs to fix it.
joaoantoniodebarros 1 year ago
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@joaoantoniodebarros dude, you have any idea what you're talking about ? 1.who told you those drugs are life-risking ? 2.who said anything about fixing ? you just help them deal with their problems you cant fix the mental problems for them... example: you feel depressed cuz you think you are pathetic and you wanna kill yourself, i try to talk you out of it but you don't believe that life ain't a bitch, how do i convince you ? i can't, i have to show you by giving you drugs that changes your mood
nothingbutcandy 1 year ago
You are the best example of how wrong psychiatry is with your sea of contradictions and fascism. Or just another troll.
1. There is a paper inside the drug box some people call "leaflet" which says that.
2. Err... You gave marijuana as an example for depression.
That's what I mean by fascism. "Hey, I tell you this, if you don't comply I dope you." That's exactly what psychiatry is. No science.
joaoantoniodebarros 1 year ago 9
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@joaoantoniodebarros 1.you call me troll but, you keep on fighting with me calling me fascist and have NO argument to my MAIN point...that makes you a troll..2. i think you are trying to look smart (again trolling) cuz you fight a "conspiracy", you don't accept drugs cuz are made by "the man" ,which is good man, you have your own opinion but don't try to convince everybody to belive in what you do because looks a lot like you're part of a sect or something , god heals you , you dont need drugs..
nothingbutcandy 1 year ago
Actually I gave you a lot of examples and explained that trying to control who don't comply with you makes you a fascist. Told you about leaflets info and contradictions of psychiatry. You just don't take it cause you are a troll.
Funny to talk about facts when psychiatry shows none. Search for videos about schizophrenia and adhd fraud and watch them having no answer.
See? I took your bait again and gave information AGAIN. Keep trolling.
biporio 1 year ago
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@biporio you're a funny dude ;)), i don't try to control nobody, you are the one with exactly the same comment on all videos about psychiatry trying to force your idea ....."Psychiatry prescribes lethal drugs for mental illness they can't prove scientifically it exists. Period. Everything else is just talking."...i saw this freakin' message in at least 4 videos about psychiatry why the hell do you think i argue only with you and not with anyone else if i'm a troll like you keep saying?? :)))
nothingbutcandy 1 year ago
Let's be objective like my comment in, I believe, almost 10 videos.
Like that simple: show us the scientific proof that bipolar disorder and schizophrenia is caused by a chemical imbalance, as psychiatry states. Is that simple. Show us.
biporio 1 year ago
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@biporio there isn't any proof indeed cuz there is no available technology yet is that simple, but only because of your and many other's paranoia, people are not gonna stop getting help for real problems.... did i said paranoia ? isn't that a symptom of schizophrenia ? close to delusional, you can live with that though, is not like its eating your brain or something
nothingbutcandy 1 year ago
Bingo.
No proof.
Just subjective analysis.
biporio 1 year ago
And, yes, psychiatry do prescribes lethal drugs for mental illness they can't prove scientifically it exists.
biporio 1 year ago
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ok man i came to my senses, you are right, bipolar disorder and schizophrenia are not real you dont need help for that, you can treat it at home with prayers and cold showers, after all is not a real biological proven illness so you'll be fine right ? DOWN WITH PSYCHIATRY, join jesus now in our church, the so called "hallucinations" and "delusional behavior" are demons possessing you but we can beat them together and heal...
nothingbutcandy 1 year ago
No need to let it go. What happens here is request for proofs, and not subjective analysis of behavior to diagnose disease.
I'm not trying to convince you about anything. As I see it, I can't. I'm just going into what you say to state little known facts. Like the one you pointed out I use to say in many, many videos.
I'm not saying "stop using drugs" but "psychiatry are full of shit when they say they know the causes and for that you shouldn't believe then".
Why not go straight to the point?
biporio 1 year ago
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dude you imagined a psychiatric version of Josef Mengele....the number of people that are full of shit it's bigger than the number of people that tell the truth that doesn't mean its concentrated more on psychiatry, many MDs prescribe drugs to people that don't need them, just for extra bucks, and those drugs can kill them. it can be any kind of doctor, not only psychiatrist, you shouldn't say all psychiatry is a scam, and they dont give you any help and the drugs they prescribe are lethal
nothingbutcandy 1 year ago
Dude, you are definitely avoiding everything that's said to you. Everything you say was already debunking at previous comments and videos itself, but you keep going with the same.
I'm not more sorry to have wasted our time with this just because we are not the only into this only conversation, as people can read out comments.
Seriously, there is no reason to go on with that.
Successful trolling is successful.
biporio 1 year ago 2
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@biporio yeah lets stop here cuz you already called me troll way too many times, you like this word i think, and you can't accept that you have absolutely no clue that your facts are right and you can't accept that your whole idea could be terribly wrong as much as could be right, you try to force your facts like sects force people into their religion, this old dude could be senile and be as much wrong as he could be right, see where i'm going ?real facts are at some level psychiatry helps...
nothingbutcandy 1 year ago
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@biporio for you there is no opinion!!! are only your facts, if you come with real research to proof your point im down on my knees, until than you are the one trolling , i already approved that some psychiatrist can kill you with lethal drugs but you want more, you are anti-psychiatry fanboy and you want all psychiatry to be blamed. i already accepted that they have no proof its chemical imbalance but neither do you that its not !!!....accept you could be wrong or prove me why you can't be!!!
nothingbutcandy 1 year ago
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@biporio if you finish every comment by calling me troll doesnt make people think you're right and you have any idea what you're talking about....or ??? maybe that's what you're thinking, i say it could work, i can't deny this fact
nothingbutcandy 1 year ago
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@joaoantoniodebarros if you abuse those pills (like many people do without the prescription of a psychiatrist or by buying prescriptions) yes you can die....lets say psychiatry is a fraud ok ?, do you think they are stupid to kill you when they need to take the money from you, in the contrary, they would keep you alive so you can provide them with money....
nothingbutcandy 1 year ago
Well, you should tell that to them, who prescribe lethal drugs to depressed and so called "bipolar" people. Better give them a loaded gun anyway.
You are a sea of contradiction and even so seems to have made up your mind already. I see no reason to go on with that.
Remember kids. Don't feed the troll.
joaoantoniodebarros 1 year ago
@nothingbutcandy Unless you know something I don't virtually any objective chemical tests have shown that not only are notions that cannabis causes brain damage incorrect, but that it functions as neuroprotective antioxidant in vivo as well as in vitro settings. I'm sorry but while this is generally assumed it is about as reasonable from a physiochemical standpoint as believing that caffeine causes brain damage. One study that hasn't received any attention said it may accelerate neurogenesis.
SirLoin21 1 year ago
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@SirLoin21 i have no idea dude, really, i was just giving an example with marijuana , but what you said proves my main point even better, you can't just start saying about drugs that are lethal just because they are drugs or because you hate them for some reason like this dude joaoantoniadeborros that he calls me fascist and troll and ...and thats it !!!! no argument !!!! he keeps bringing up the marijuana thing cuz i did a wrong example and thats all he can argue about...
nothingbutcandy 1 year ago
Just a note for someone passing along-
kevinneslund and I were actually agreeing and not disagreeing. There was this guy named IronMongoose1 that apparently got overwhelmed by how wrong he was defending the suppression of psychiatry that he must have left the discussion. O well.
mutt6363 2 years ago 4
Thank you kindly. That individual ("IronMongoose") was, I assume, beginning to recognize he was being exposed for what he is in fact -- a clown. As can be seen with my posts (and, I can provide innumerable references and quotes from the world's leading medical schools) I have the support of the leading authorities and institutions in the world. He ("IronMongoose") does not. He's a lone nutcase sitting somewhere making confused, meandering, pointless comments. I wish him well.
kevinneslund 2 years ago
@IronMongoose1- He's not coming off stupid. I got 2 likes in a matter of ten minutes from two students in law school because how they admit people is against the 5th and 6th Amendments, and it is becoming more and more apparent that is the case.
mutt6363 2 years ago 2
@kevinneslund- I posted that note on facebook for 454 more people to see.
mutt6363 2 years ago
Good. Which one specifically?
kevinneslund 2 years ago
It was the actual note. I put what you had down and put a link to the entire note itself.
mutt6363 2 years ago