@tkoch25 First off it isn't "the mormon church" it's "The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-Day Saints " ...to many ppl forget to call the Lords Church by it's proper name
And many think there are "holes" in the church cause they lack understanding or get their info from our critics and haters instead of going to the source for the True answers.
I been a member for 30yrs, trust me there's no holes
Your prophet stated that the Jesus of the BoM is not the Jesus of the Bible. Period.
Secondly, there are not "holes" in mormon theology, there are huge gaping chasms in mormon theology. In fact, it is so absurd on some points that it makes a person wonder how ignorant a person has to be to claim it has no "holes".
Lastly, truth is truth no matter who says it. You plug your ears based on who is talking. You are a blind and arrogant, sadly on your way to hell.
@TrickTrolan I don't want to come off rude, but the Mormon church gives you the complete opposite of the truth. There are so many holes in the history and theology of the Mormon church.
Eminem is crazy but so is the Bible. Read Leviticus. There is a lot of crazy stuff in that book. Read the ten commandments right out of Exodus. They were supposed to stone to death anyone who worked on the Sabbath. Do you really want to believe in this crazy god or would you rather believe that Moses was the crazy one?
@seanstrnad Money Isn't everything in life bud. I've never spent a day of my life wondering if I was going to be able to afford dinner that night. While that has been a huge blessing, I can promise you that enough other things have occurred that make my life far from perfect.
@seanstrnad Faith. If that wasn't true you wouldn't have religious people in poor countries. I'm not just talking about Christianity. You're argument was about religion as a whole. Yet in poor countries that don't have any capital, faith still exists. Furthermore within the Christian realm there are FAR more small struggling churches that produce just enough capital to stay afloat. Plus the large churches donate 100's of millions of dollars every year to people in need.
hi mark its eminem id like to take you up on that offer you kindly extended to me to meet that guy you know who rose from the dead why dont you both come round mine for dinner you and your mate in person for dinner so i can be introduced as you stated then and only then you can pontificate to me as much as you like. it strikes me mark you talk shit you see its a piece of piss to call out any one you like but mark for fucksake back your judgemental shit up to try to be smart youll look a prick
At least Eminem didn't sacrifice his daughter to please himself, right? This grown man just said he knows "a guy who rose from death". Oh, really? Where is this guy? Oh, he is invisible! Right.......
"Celebrities are not healthy people" - what a judgmental load of crap. He's saying that because a lot of people know you, you aren't well. One could say that Driscoll is a celebrity, does that make him unhealthy too?
@becktim79 no no no you must be confused with some else see this "god" figure dude thingy is actually just an imaginary made up character that was planted in your heads by some drunk idiot who wrote this book bout some silly stuff, this is now called the bible.
You forgot what Jesus also said to this women: go, and sin no more. (vs 11)
and also in John 15 He said 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch...and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
and in Matthew 7 He said: 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. and in verse 23 He said And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
All have sinned and greatly offended the holy God of the bible. The just punishment is death then hell. That's not Gods will. He suffered and died on the cross paying for the law you broke in His life's blood so He could legally dismiss your case. You must repent turn from your sin and trust alone in Jesus Christ for your salvation.
“In the view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views.” - Albert Einstein
@69suckithard The CD and song was about Em's relapse and wants to start over. Thats what the pastor was talking about. He say the same about you and me, that we are crappy lords of our lives. Theres not one person he wouldn't say this about, because its true, the same rules that apply to you, me, Mr.Driscoll apply to Em as well. You were so quick to defend Em, what about God, a being much larger than this world and the people in. Would you defend God or do you woship worldly objects over him.
I'd have liked this more if Eminem were present in the audience. People, especially those who claim to represent God, shouldn't speak about others behind their backs. Or is that asking too much from men of God?
“The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.”
Eminem is a sincere guy who speaks from the heart. Don't go picking on misguided individuals with the truth and common sense. You should be ashamed of yourself Mark, sincerity trumps wisdom in our culture!
@jg0287 This Pastor wasn't judging Eminem's salvation, but as Christians we ARE called to judge BEHAVIOR, and to condemn behavior that is contrary to God's Word. So Mark wasn't out of line, nor did he say God doesn't love Eminem. So relax and maybe actually crack OPEN a Bible and actually KNOW what you are talking about before you open your mouth to critisize.
well eminem has no real message. mark does. he should stick to that. there is hope for everyone breathing air right now. you know, eminem has a contract. it means he MUST produce an album/tour or he gets sued. take a look at nirvana, kurt cobain,, did NOT want to tour, but had to, then took his life. it was too big for him. these people might be worthy of some pity. i dont listen t o their stuff. i cant bash someone that has no revelation of jesus christ. or mock them. selah
@IQ178 He can come at Eminem however he pleases. Eminem is a celebrity and he has to take what comes with it. If he were talking about Christian Aquilera or some other not so well known celebrity you wouldn't be saying anything right now. So you need to shut your mouth. All Mark was saying here is that maybe he should follow Jesus. All this talk about poor Eminem is bullshit. Eminem trashes on other celebrities all the time. I think what Mark said plaes in comparison to what he says.
@JamesRideout123 IDK WTF MADE YOU THINK YOU COULD JUST COME AT ME LIKE THAT WHEN I MADE SUCH A LITTLE COMMENT! Seriously, though, why did you feel that you needed to reply to my comment in the way that you did? You act as if I was defending Eminem, or celebrities in general, but that was not the case at all. You seem not to support Driscoll in the first place, which makes your reply all the more confusing!! WTF dude? P.S. CHRISTINA AGUILERA is a not-well-known celebrity? Where have u been?
@IQ178 I didn't say she wasn't a well known celebrity. I said or some other not so well known celebrity in the context of other celebrities entirely although I can see how you misread it. I support mark sometimes. Sometimes he makes good points but hes a Calvanist some things he says I despise. Like the once saved always saved. The Bible never teaches this.
@JamesRideout123 OK...that doesn't really explain why you came so hard. But, Driscoll shouldn't have the right to judge people just because "maybe [Eminem] should follow Jesus." Driscoll just wanted to hear himself talk. He wasn't genuinely concerned about Eminem, or any other celebrity.
@IQ178 I came so hard at you because I am sick of all these people coming to Eminem and joining his side and not allowing anyone else to speak. If he were talking about a different celebrity we would not be having this conversation that is my point.
@JamesRideout123 no, we dont need to shut our mouth. how crass. you would censor? we have big government and SOPA and homeland security doing that fulltime. these videos are public sir. we have a right to comment, just as he had a right to post it.
@jamesraymondsmith He has a right to post it but I amsick of all the Eminem sentiment when Eminem has done nothing to deserve it. He works hard this is true but so do alot of other mainstream music artists and non mainstream artists. Eminem makes music 50% because of his talent and because he is good but the other 50% is because of controversy. If he was not controversial when he first came out there would be no Eminem and this idea that people cannot talk about Eminemiswrong.
@JamesRideout123 i get you. i guess i am not used to pulpit guys referring to obvious people who are secular. thees music people they are just doing what they do. if they really had a relationship with the lord they would walk away somehow. frankly i have never heard more than 4 or 5 minutes of marks preaching. he has his share of controversy going on dont you think? i am NOT joining eminems side at all. or mark's for that matter. i digress. sometimes i really need to avoid these posts HAH
@jg0278 God is love but also many other things like just, Holy, Wrathful, Jealous, Merciful, ect. To limit to him to just love would be in correct. Everyone will get what they deserve one day and only the ones who have true faith in Christ will be saved so hopefully Eminem heart gets changed by God. And everyone else you all shouldn't say Mark Driscoll is judging he is merely using an example of why his Church should follow Jesus instead of celebrities. Everyone making the vulgar comments about
Jesus said, he who is without sin, you may cast the first stone. Jesus loves Eminem. Jesus' gospel should not be used with pointing a finger and judging someone, mocking them or laughing at them. Eminem admits his mistakes, that he did wrong. Most artist don't humble themselves to admit they made mistakes, now I don't agree with every lyric he says, but I do know that God doesn't insult, God is love.
@jg0278 Mark Driscoll is a Calvinist who preachs that once saved always saved. The Bible never teaches this. Mark has no idea what he is talking about. People listen to what Mark has to say because it fits well with their lives and its easy to hear but that doesn't make it the truth. The Bible says "And I gave them over to do the things which are not convenient". Nice try Mark. Real Christians are not swayed by this type of smooth talk rhetoric.
@JamesRideout123 The Bible says 'Nothing can separate us from His hand.' Calvin wasn't an idiot. I don't believe he got everything right but he was not completely wrong. Also who are you to say who is a real Christian or not? I believe that is God's job not man's so don't attack brothers and sisters in Christ over petty issues of doctrine and try to save the lost.
@Micahmanism Unrepentant Sin will severe someone from God's love. That is why we have rules. The passage you are referring to is with regards to someone who repents and is trying to abstain from Sin. I also don't disagree with everything this man says and he definitely does alot more good then harm but that doesn't mean that he has the green light to says what he wants and does not require correction from time to time.
@JamesRideout123 True but correction should not be done on Youtube through comments on a video not on his channel, that is like yelling at your wall and hoping your neighbor stops blowing leaves in your yard. Also you are quite right in saying that one can be saved and lose it but only in things like completely walking away from God and living in sin, not sinning and then dying before you have the chance to repent.
People say "dont judge me" ... The Word (God) is judging them and we are simply to point it out and rebuke one another (self proclaimed Christians) that are openly or secretly sinning, but instead because of our evil hearts we turn around and say don't judge me. "The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
@jg0278 Gal 1:7 "Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you,and would pervert the gospel of Christ." Sadly U have been taght another gospel. 1 that only speaks of love and leaves out the judgement of God. Eminem may confess his wrongs with his mouth, but his actions, behaviour and lyrical content speak volumes more.If U knew Jesus Christ, U would recognize evil when it's presented. He's proud, and "rolls with the devil" like most who have sold their soul for fame & fortune
@jg0278 His point was the worshiping celebrities and longing to be just like them is foolish and ignorant. You have to be blind not to realize that most celebrities personal lives are a complete wreck. Why would you want to follow the same path they are on? Regardless of fame and fortune. Jesus does love Eminem, enough to die for him. But two people in a pit can't help each other. You need someone with tough love (Jesus) to get you out.
@SeedsOfHatred God is the creator of all emotion, true. But if we (humans) can learn to control our emotions, God probably knows a thing or two about keeping His in check too. As in loving all that is good and hating evil. He doesn't hate people so much as he hates our wrong actions.
@jg0278 His whole point was to use Eminem as an example of the unblieving culture. We idolize and look up to them, but look at what Eminem is saying, admitting, and what it reveals about him. Driscoll isn't "judging" Eminem in the sense of condemning him as less than himself. God loves everyone, which is why we still exist right now (mercy), but at the same time he is a just and wrathful God who will punish all evil-doers (everyone) who do not place their faith in and submit to Christ.
@jg0278 ur dumb hes in bigtime sin of course we can judge any1 and every1 and we shuld judge ppl to b able to tell them to turn away from their sin in order to save them from eterenal hell.... now thts tru love.... a tru father who loves rebukes his children hope u get it.
@jg0278 i don't think he is meaning to criticize him. Pastors just have to point out celebrities and false teachers sometimes because it is easy for people to get caught up in thinking celebrities have it all together when most of them are lacking the one thing we say is of only importance, Christ.
@jg0278 God doesn't insult? read the entire 23rd chapter of Matthew. God is love but sometimes the most loving thing to do is to humble someone so they don't get thrown in hell for their pride.
God doesn't insult? Have you read the Old Testament lately? Jeremiah? Isaiah? Hosea? What about Jesus' letter to Laodiceaea in Revelation 3?
But the point being made here is that even though Slim knows he's messed up, he still insists on being the captain of his own life. He needs to turn his life over to one more competent to pilot him: God.
@Orenotter Actually, little fun fact, Eminem has always believed in God and was actually baptized about three weeks before beginning to record Recovery. Now while some people are more evident in their faith and who they follow, that isn't necessarily for everyone. As cliche as this sounds, Em has a reputation to keep, and he does that while just rapping, instead of rapping how he used to. Unfortunately, it often takes longer than one may think to fully transform your entire life.
@weareironmen He is probably just following the fad, now (especially in the rap game) it is "cool" to be born again and get saved so he wants to be a part of that. No doubt eminem must be ashamed of some of the ridiculous shit he produced that got him his fame, no doubt he sold his soul to the devil and realize the full repercussions of it. It might be too late em, better hope you are one of God's elect.
@ferlonjrTV I obviously don't know what it means? Are you honestly that thick that you believe that you're so high and mighty and Christian that you can tell OTHERS that they don't know what it means to follow the same God you follow? It's people like you who turn non-Christians away from God.
@jg0278 but remember the chastening that comes with His love - I agree there shouldn't be any laughing at someone's pain - but it's important to make correction or else the mistakes are still there and they are still one the same path
@jg0278 Eminem is totally honest and as such, he would admit readily that Pastor Mark is not insulting him, but just telling the truth, bang on. Yr comment insults Eminems intelligence. Eminem is anti-NWO which is brilliant, I follow him in that. He also admits he's just a human doing his best in his personal life..
God is love, yes, - love is honesty. Mark and Eminem are honest. Being dishonest isn't love.
@jg0278 God is love. But he is also Holy. Jesus lovingly warned about Hell. "I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish." Luke 13:3
@jg0278 Why does the fact that God is love negate the fact that Eminem should repent for his sins? Eminem is still out there setting bad example for kids and society in general with his songs about sex, murder, drugs, etc.
The fact is that if Eminem somewhere during a concert would he go to hell or heaven? The fact that we are unsure about this should drive you to preach the gospel to and bring people to Jesus so that they may know for sure that their is a greater place than this.
@jg0278 I agree with you. He wasn't dissing on the guy. In context he was talking about how Being famous isn't everything. I bet you he was giving this sermon over Solomon who was very rich, but found that it was all for nothing. God is love. Yes. Jesus died for everyone. But it is our Job to let our brothers know when they do wrong. We help them because we love them. Eminem, I hope finds God's love. He would have one great testimony. Are we our brother's keepers? Yes... Yes we are!
@jg0278 Wow. You are wrong on so many levels it's amazing. And what's even sadder, you probably don't read your Bible or know it. You don't pray either... and you have the nerve to act like you know God? Did you know that not everyone in hell claimed to be heathens? Do you know that a false teacher THINKS he or she is doing the will of God? I'd be careful about what position you take, it may be a everlasting "mistake."
@jg0278 Also, where did you get the idea that God doesn't insult? From which Bible? Since you think you're right, let's go to the Bible and get the answers. You'll find that your understanding of what God is may be completely from the pits of hell. This preacher is telling the truth about celebrities, and needs to since kids tend to idolize them which is dangerous. What preacher would NOT discredit celebrities?... I don't understand your points here.
@jg0278 what if we are called to face reality as it is and work on not judging at the same time? God is love and truth and he calls us to be bold. i'm just asking cause i don't fully agree with you but i may be misunderstanding you
There he is judging Eminem. Jeez I think KJ-52 said it best that most people "Sit and and hate on you, instead of dropping to their kness, takin' time to pray for you."
@WIldFire979 He isn't judging Eminem according to your definition of judging (down-talking, insulting). His pronouncement was that Eminem wasn't doing 'well,' and according to Eminem's own lyrics, clearly he is having difficulty. Judging doesn't mean merely disagreeing with someone, or merely saying anything at all that could be controversial or off-putting. You seem quite soft. Am I judging you right now? Because I disagree? Mark obviously means well and has concern for Eminem, it isn't judging
Its not just celebs that aren't doing good. Humanity as a whole is having the same problems. Celebs just so happen to make the news when it happens to them. Drugs, prostitution, cheating. It's everywhere. He's trying to say being rich and famous doesn't take those problems away. Money doesn't solve everything. As far as the Eminem reference...while Marshall is trying to make a change I think that he, like many famous people, take for granted the power of influence they hold.
All in all, Driscoll is OK, but from time to time he will make outlandish and sweeping generalizations about all manner of things. For example, in this case he pronounces that celebs, the rich, whatever, are not doing so well. This absurb logic about putting ALL such people in the same box in downright childish. Watch your mouth, Mark. Please.
@Redo12able obviously he isn't saying that ALL celebrities are bad, but i think you would agree that many, if not most, and especially the most prominent, are extremely screwed up.
Great job misinterpreting the song, Mr. Driscoll. In the song, "Not Afraid", Em admits that his past self was not a great person despite his best intentions but he wants to do better from now on. And if you want to do better, take his hand and walk with him while he walks. He never said that wants people to follow him like he's Jesus but rather "Hey, need a friend? I'll be a friend. I can't judge considering all the stuff I've done."
@slickman911 But to say, "because its impossible" is presupposing that people can't rise from the dead prior to the evidence. The four gospel accounts are historical documents and they do record Jesus rising from the dead.
@jordan19862000 " "because its impossible" is presupposing that people can't rise from the dead prior to the evidence.” --> no, “because its impossible” is pointing out that biologically such a thing is impossible. All with everything we know from modern medicine, to the human physiology, the “rising from the dead” claim is impossible. Its not a presupposition, its pointing out the facts. If people make a factual claim to the contrary they must provide evidence.
@jordan19862000 For instance, If I told you that my friend grew wings and learned how to fly, You would not be “Presupposing” that people can’t grow wings prior to the evidence. A basic understanding of the human anatomy would show that its BS. Now you could ask me to show you this person, if I can’t then I would have to prove it to you by other means. Simply getting three other people to write about it, isn’t actually providing evidence.
@jordan19862000 “historical documents” --> The Epic of Gilgamesh, The iliad, etc are historical documents as well. It doesn’t mean that all the stories in them are correct. The Epic of Gilgamesh is actually the first known piece of literature in the history of mankind. It is a remarkable historical document.
@jordan19862000 But just because The Epic of Gilgamesh is a historical document You probably don’t believe That Gilgamesh was half God half man, Enlil Is the father of all gods or that Ea disobeyed Enlil and warned Shurrupak that enlil was going to flood the world on account of mankind being intolerable, and instructed him to build a boat from his house and take aboard the seed of every living creature.
@slickman911 By the way, even the most critical, non-religious historians will grant you there is enough historical evidence to grant the following; a man named Jesus was born in Bethlehem, he died on a Roman cross around 33 AD, he was buried in a tomb, his tomb was found empty, there are eye-witness accounts of him appearing to people, and a huge following was started in his name. (cont.)
@slickman911 Given all the evidence, the most PLAUSIBLE explanation is that he rose from the dead. Some say "well, the body was switched, it was an impersonator" etc., but those are "you could say" stories and there is no evidence for them. Also, the historical documents of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are recorded closer to the events and have more copies than any other ancient documents. The fall of rome was even recorded for 700 years after it happened. See "Gary Habermas: Resurrection"
Why did you watch this?. To make a remark about our lord Jesus Christ?. You should repent and ask GOD THE LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS for forgiveness if you don't want to and if you DON'T love god STOP always talking bad about him. Talking bad about him isn't going to get you anywhere really it isn't there's no good that's gonna come for talking bad about GOD. ONCE AGAIN THERE IS NO!! GOOD THATS GONNA COME WITH TALKING BAD ABOUT GOD. You're heavenly father that LOVES YOU MORE THEN ANYONE EV
@vinnyrussian Something you may not be aware of is that Christian channels are notorious for censoring comments. I could give you numerous examples. When a Christian doesn't actively stifle free speech, this is what Youtube looks like.
We atheists are use to it because our channels are a free-for-all where Christians bombard us with criticisms. We're just use to it.
Kudos to any Christian that doesn't heavily censor comments!
@HellRehab Serious question...do go the the Islam, and buddist channels as well? I'm not trying to be funny..but why do atheists even care or pay attention to what Christians believe. I don't understand...I wouldn't debate with someone if I thought they are crazy for believing in an invisible GOD. There must something more to it. Why do you even care what we believe?
For starters, Christianity is anti-intellectual and anti-science. Today Christianity is responsible for stultifying the science education of our children by trespassing into the High School biology class. This resistance to science by religion isn't new. Organized christianity opposed investigation into the natural world in the Renaissance by banning the teachings of Gallileo .
Today children in Africa are being harmed or killed on suspicion of witchcraft.
@707TruthSeeker You will no doubt object as this is not your version of Christianity. Your type of Christianity takes place in modern buildings with padded pews, however the truth claims of Christianity include the existence of demons and the performance of exorcisms, even by Jesus (see matthew.) Local zealots take advantage of the ignorant and harm children today. I'd love for you to explain to villagers that exorcisms are not necessary because demons aren't real but, your church
From the historic subjugation of women, to current homophobia and the doctrine of Hell I oppose christianity. Christianity and Islam divide us by telling children that they are born 'dead in sin' and must get fixed before they burn forever. The thousands of factions of Christianity confuse the situation with some fundamentalist pastors preaching that Catholics aren't "true" christians etc. etc. etc
You get my drift? I won't continue or I'll get blocked.:)
@HellRehab That whole repent now or burn in hell mindset is poison. Anyone who tries to convert with fear will have a far less likely chance than to convert with love. Thats some west baptist mindset.
@Tinsletooth Agreed, but I believe its an American Church mind set, but thankfully there has been a trend toward Love and Grace message of the Gospel. Man made traditions have really turned a lot of people away from the True Gospel (Love) .
Jesus Christ this guy is a dumb ass!! Keep in mind, this is the SAME moron who thinks that yoga, the movie Avatar, and men who aren't manly enough are all evil/bad things. It makes me want to puke that anyone takes him seriously. I wish so much he would debate someone on Christianity or god or religion or whatever just so I could quickly see that smarmy look get quickly wiped off his fat face.
@chaseren11 Check it out.. this guy is no better that you are me. Pastors are human and say things that my be inaccurate.Whoever its not about him or avatar or yoga,its about your salvation and the message of the Gospel.
Firstly, that is a misinterpretation of the album, it is actually about how Eminem is trying to put his life back together, and he says "come take my hand" so as to reach out to other people with similar ordeals so they can fight a common struggle together. Secondly, it is just bad rhetoric to use a single man as a generalization for a much larger group (especially when he is inaccurate in the first place).
@ImKrissLee because what jesus said was totally opposed to what they believed. They thought he was going over throw the roman empire and rule the world but he was just some dude that came planted a ministry and died so by his grace we could all live eternally with him.
@ImKrissLee People will be annoyed whenever you bring up morality. It's not hard to be provocative, and it doesn't mean that you are right when you do it.
@69suckithard with a name like yours, I didn't think you would be giving posisitive feedback. Secondly, Ems career stands nothing to the life of Christ. Thats what he meant, and he was right. He doesn't only mean "Eminem needs to model himself after Christ" but that all should. Any one man who says, "By myself I can fix all the problems of my life" is a fool.
Mark Driscoll has got this so right. I've listened to about 50 of his sermons off his website, several more than once, and I plan to listen to the rest of them in the future. Thank you Mark!
@drumrnva someone telling me that there is no ultimate truth is, making that theory itself an ultimate truth. so if that philosophy cannot hold itself up, ultimate truth must really exist. just something to think about. but yes, it does get tiring for people to tell you what to do, which is why it's so important to find out for yourself!
By the way you're not a preacher, you're an entertainer just like Eminem. You make a lot of money off of these seminars. Just like the guy from Fox News that was trying to make the point to Michael Moore while speaking to him when he went down to wall street to support the the wall street protesters. Mark, you are the 1 percent.
@thesilencer2551 Totally disagree because Pastor Mark Driscoll has made a dramatic change in my life and are you made because your an eminem fan and he said the truth. He totally right celebrities arent healthy people and being a Pastor means risking it all and i dont know were you got he wants to be rich from! :|
God is love. We just have messed up views of what love is. Love that does not demand justice, repentance and punishment is not love at all.
geistlingster 57 minutes ago
Come on people, He ISN'T JUST a LOVING GOD. :)
TheJohnmark481 2 days ago
@terskip Nice rant but all of its false... next
TrickTrolan 3 days ago
@TrickTrolan lol true
UnrealHelix 2 days ago
@tkoch25 First off it isn't "the mormon church" it's "The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-Day Saints " ...to many ppl forget to call the Lords Church by it's proper name
And many think there are "holes" in the church cause they lack understanding or get their info from our critics and haters instead of going to the source for the True answers.
I been a member for 30yrs, trust me there's no holes
TrickTrolan 6 days ago
@TrickTrolan
Your prophet stated that the Jesus of the BoM is not the Jesus of the Bible. Period.
Secondly, there are not "holes" in mormon theology, there are huge gaping chasms in mormon theology. In fact, it is so absurd on some points that it makes a person wonder how ignorant a person has to be to claim it has no "holes".
Lastly, truth is truth no matter who says it. You plug your ears based on who is talking. You are a blind and arrogant, sadly on your way to hell.
terskip 3 days ago
thats not at all what eminem is talking about in that song...you're wrong
MrQetuoad 1 week ago
@MrQetuoad He's talking about the album bro
UnrealHelix 2 days ago
lds dot org for the truth
TrickTrolan 1 week ago
@TrickTrolan I don't want to come off rude, but the Mormon church gives you the complete opposite of the truth. There are so many holes in the history and theology of the Mormon church.
tkoch25 6 days ago
He's talking about Tupac right?
jerodc10 1 week ago
Amen!!
zbd197 1 week ago
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This pastor is standing in front of a background that says, "Luke's Gospel: Investigating The Man Who is God"
Does that bother anyone else?
KaylaAllTheTime 1 week ago
Eminem is crazy but so is the Bible. Read Leviticus. There is a lot of crazy stuff in that book. Read the ten commandments right out of Exodus. They were supposed to stone to death anyone who worked on the Sabbath. Do you really want to believe in this crazy god or would you rather believe that Moses was the crazy one?
LifeIsABigPuzzle 2 weeks ago
@LifeIsABigPuzzle Lol why do you Internet guys always go straight to Leviticus/Old Testament? ALWAYS? Like, always bro?
UnrealHelix 2 days ago
@UnrealHelix Because that is what Christianity is based on.
LifeIsABigPuzzle 2 days ago
yeah I'm sure Eminem isn't doing well, minus the millions in his fortune that give him the opportunities to do whatever the fuck he wants.
seanstrnad 2 weeks ago
@seanstrnad Money Isn't everything in life bud. I've never spent a day of my life wondering if I was going to be able to afford dinner that night. While that has been a huge blessing, I can promise you that enough other things have occurred that make my life far from perfect.
wakeboarder860 2 weeks ago
@wakeboarder860 If money isn't everything then what drives religion?
seanstrnad 2 weeks ago
@seanstrnad Faith. If that wasn't true you wouldn't have religious people in poor countries. I'm not just talking about Christianity. You're argument was about religion as a whole. Yet in poor countries that don't have any capital, faith still exists. Furthermore within the Christian realm there are FAR more small struggling churches that produce just enough capital to stay afloat. Plus the large churches donate 100's of millions of dollars every year to people in need.
wakeboarder860 2 weeks ago
@wakeboarder860 So those heavenly streets of gold that everyone thinks they'll be strolling along one day is actually just plated steel?
seanstrnad 1 week ago
@seanstrnad I don't have any idea what you are talking about...
wakeboarder860 1 week ago
hi mark its eminem id like to take you up on that offer you kindly extended to me to meet that guy you know who rose from the dead why dont you both come round mine for dinner you and your mate in person for dinner so i can be introduced as you stated then and only then you can pontificate to me as much as you like. it strikes me mark you talk shit you see its a piece of piss to call out any one you like but mark for fucksake back your judgemental shit up to try to be smart youll look a prick
jolianthom 2 weeks ago
@jolianthom You're not Eminem, Eminem knows how to use punctuation.
wakeboarder860 2 weeks ago
@wakeboarder860 aaaahhh son of a bitch rumbled again due to poor punctuation! oh well keep bangin thos ho,s
kind regards
lil wayne
jolianthom 2 weeks ago
At least Eminem didn't sacrifice his daughter to please himself, right? This grown man just said he knows "a guy who rose from death". Oh, really? Where is this guy? Oh, he is invisible! Right.......
r3ggi3000 2 weeks ago
Mark Discroll is a FAKE!!!! I would love to corner him in a room and bash him for bashing others!!!!
Micscience 2 weeks ago
"Celebrities are not healthy people" - what a judgmental load of crap. He's saying that because a lot of people know you, you aren't well. One could say that Driscoll is a celebrity, does that make him unhealthy too?
burmanmusic 2 weeks ago
"to bad a lot of Christians all they do is hate on you instead of droppin' to their knees and takin' time to pray for you" - KJ-52, Dear Slim, Part 2
EzekielWinnfield 2 weeks ago
You wouldn't last 4 minutes in Eminems shoes marlin cock sucking cunt
HeyZeus32 2 weeks ago
@HeyZeus32 Very well thought out comment, though I think you may have missed his point just slightly...
XxJLawrencexX 2 weeks ago
@HeyZeus32 But what if those four minutes were while he was sleeping? D:
RockSprites 2 weeks ago
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and then you have the morons at 12 Stone who sing Eminem songs as worship.
FAITHandLOGIC 2 weeks ago
no God doesn't insult, but He DOES call sin out when He sees it!
MultiLawnguy 2 weeks ago
but, god doesn't exist?
waslambla 2 weeks ago
@waslambla Hmm.. He does, actually. :-)
becktim79 2 weeks ago
@becktim79 no no no you must be confused with some else see this "god" figure dude thingy is actually just an imaginary made up character that was planted in your heads by some drunk idiot who wrote this book bout some silly stuff, this is now called the bible.
waslambla 2 weeks ago
@jg0278
You forgot what Jesus also said to this women: go, and sin no more. (vs 11)
and also in John 15 He said 6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch...and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
and in Matthew 7 He said: 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. and in verse 23 He said And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
This is not judging it's the truth
eelcob1818 3 weeks ago
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All have sinned and greatly offended the holy God of the bible. The just punishment is death then hell. That's not Gods will. He suffered and died on the cross paying for the law you broke in His life's blood so He could legally dismiss your case. You must repent turn from your sin and trust alone in Jesus Christ for your salvation.
mamainmancj 3 weeks ago
Mark Driscoll is a corporation.
He didn't necessarily fuck Whitney Houston though.
dhunt6789 3 weeks ago
@jg0278
its more the admitting mistakes! gotta repent and turn from sin. repent comes from the word meda-noya (sp?) with means to re-think.
Stapletonsam 3 weeks ago
@uniqui7
“In the view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views.” - Albert Einstein
houseonarock21 3 weeks ago
@69suckithard The CD and song was about Em's relapse and wants to start over. Thats what the pastor was talking about. He say the same about you and me, that we are crappy lords of our lives. Theres not one person he wouldn't say this about, because its true, the same rules that apply to you, me, Mr.Driscoll apply to Em as well. You were so quick to defend Em, what about God, a being much larger than this world and the people in. Would you defend God or do you woship worldly objects over him.
houseonarock21 3 weeks ago
I'd have liked this more if Eminem were present in the audience. People, especially those who claim to represent God, shouldn't speak about others behind their backs. Or is that asking too much from men of God?
gore53 3 weeks ago
“The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.”
― Albert Einstein
Uniqui7 3 weeks ago
this guy is a fucking tool
SourCyanide 3 weeks ago
Eminem is a sincere guy who speaks from the heart. Don't go picking on misguided individuals with the truth and common sense. You should be ashamed of yourself Mark, sincerity trumps wisdom in our culture!
graceofannarbor 4 weeks ago
Not afraid to take a stand, so errybody come take my hand
NYyankzgirl 1 month ago 7
@jg0287 This Pastor wasn't judging Eminem's salvation, but as Christians we ARE called to judge BEHAVIOR, and to condemn behavior that is contrary to God's Word. So Mark wasn't out of line, nor did he say God doesn't love Eminem. So relax and maybe actually crack OPEN a Bible and actually KNOW what you are talking about before you open your mouth to critisize.
ReichsfuhrerWenger 1 month ago
in not afraid em says to fallow him by going to rehab to get off drugs like he was on not to fallow him by worship
Juggalobshep313 1 month ago
A pastor who listens to Eminem? Religious people are INDEED cool!
kubrox91 1 month ago
well eminem has no real message. mark does. he should stick to that. there is hope for everyone breathing air right now. you know, eminem has a contract. it means he MUST produce an album/tour or he gets sued. take a look at nirvana, kurt cobain,, did NOT want to tour, but had to, then took his life. it was too big for him. these people might be worthy of some pity. i dont listen t o their stuff. i cant bash someone that has no revelation of jesus christ. or mock them. selah
jamesraymondsmith 1 month ago
Amen Mark!
Bedeborah 1 month ago
He didn't have to come at Eminem like that.
IQ178 1 month ago
@IQ178 He can come at Eminem however he pleases. Eminem is a celebrity and he has to take what comes with it. If he were talking about Christian Aquilera or some other not so well known celebrity you wouldn't be saying anything right now. So you need to shut your mouth. All Mark was saying here is that maybe he should follow Jesus. All this talk about poor Eminem is bullshit. Eminem trashes on other celebrities all the time. I think what Mark said plaes in comparison to what he says.
JamesRideout123 1 month ago
@JamesRideout123 IDK WTF MADE YOU THINK YOU COULD JUST COME AT ME LIKE THAT WHEN I MADE SUCH A LITTLE COMMENT! Seriously, though, why did you feel that you needed to reply to my comment in the way that you did? You act as if I was defending Eminem, or celebrities in general, but that was not the case at all. You seem not to support Driscoll in the first place, which makes your reply all the more confusing!! WTF dude? P.S. CHRISTINA AGUILERA is a not-well-known celebrity? Where have u been?
IQ178 1 month ago
@IQ178 I didn't say she wasn't a well known celebrity. I said or some other not so well known celebrity in the context of other celebrities entirely although I can see how you misread it. I support mark sometimes. Sometimes he makes good points but hes a Calvanist some things he says I despise. Like the once saved always saved. The Bible never teaches this.
JamesRideout123 1 month ago
@JamesRideout123 OK...that doesn't really explain why you came so hard. But, Driscoll shouldn't have the right to judge people just because "maybe [Eminem] should follow Jesus." Driscoll just wanted to hear himself talk. He wasn't genuinely concerned about Eminem, or any other celebrity.
IQ178 1 month ago
@IQ178 I came so hard at you because I am sick of all these people coming to Eminem and joining his side and not allowing anyone else to speak. If he were talking about a different celebrity we would not be having this conversation that is my point.
JamesRideout123 1 month ago
@JamesRideout123 no, we dont need to shut our mouth. how crass. you would censor? we have big government and SOPA and homeland security doing that fulltime. these videos are public sir. we have a right to comment, just as he had a right to post it.
jamesraymondsmith 1 month ago
@jamesraymondsmith He has a right to post it but I amsick of all the Eminem sentiment when Eminem has done nothing to deserve it. He works hard this is true but so do alot of other mainstream music artists and non mainstream artists. Eminem makes music 50% because of his talent and because he is good but the other 50% is because of controversy. If he was not controversial when he first came out there would be no Eminem and this idea that people cannot talk about Eminemiswrong.
JamesRideout123 1 month ago
@JamesRideout123 i get you. i guess i am not used to pulpit guys referring to obvious people who are secular. thees music people they are just doing what they do. if they really had a relationship with the lord they would walk away somehow. frankly i have never heard more than 4 or 5 minutes of marks preaching. he has his share of controversy going on dont you think? i am NOT joining eminems side at all. or mark's for that matter. i digress. sometimes i really need to avoid these posts HAH
jamesraymondsmith 1 month ago
What sermon was this taken from? I have all the sermons of the Luke series but I think I missed this part.
himur1 1 month ago
@jg0278 God is love but also many other things like just, Holy, Wrathful, Jealous, Merciful, ect. To limit to him to just love would be in correct. Everyone will get what they deserve one day and only the ones who have true faith in Christ will be saved so hopefully Eminem heart gets changed by God. And everyone else you all shouldn't say Mark Driscoll is judging he is merely using an example of why his Church should follow Jesus instead of celebrities. Everyone making the vulgar comments about
TheDezzydez 1 month ago
Jesus said, he who is without sin, you may cast the first stone. Jesus loves Eminem. Jesus' gospel should not be used with pointing a finger and judging someone, mocking them or laughing at them. Eminem admits his mistakes, that he did wrong. Most artist don't humble themselves to admit they made mistakes, now I don't agree with every lyric he says, but I do know that God doesn't insult, God is love.
jg0278 1 month ago 16
@jg0278 Mark Driscoll is a Calvinist who preachs that once saved always saved. The Bible never teaches this. Mark has no idea what he is talking about. People listen to what Mark has to say because it fits well with their lives and its easy to hear but that doesn't make it the truth. The Bible says "And I gave them over to do the things which are not convenient". Nice try Mark. Real Christians are not swayed by this type of smooth talk rhetoric.
JamesRideout123 1 month ago
@JamesRideout123 The Bible says 'Nothing can separate us from His hand.' Calvin wasn't an idiot. I don't believe he got everything right but he was not completely wrong. Also who are you to say who is a real Christian or not? I believe that is God's job not man's so don't attack brothers and sisters in Christ over petty issues of doctrine and try to save the lost.
Micahmanism 3 weeks ago
@Micahmanism Unrepentant Sin will severe someone from God's love. That is why we have rules. The passage you are referring to is with regards to someone who repents and is trying to abstain from Sin. I also don't disagree with everything this man says and he definitely does alot more good then harm but that doesn't mean that he has the green light to says what he wants and does not require correction from time to time.
JamesRideout123 3 weeks ago
@JamesRideout123 True but correction should not be done on Youtube through comments on a video not on his channel, that is like yelling at your wall and hoping your neighbor stops blowing leaves in your yard. Also you are quite right in saying that one can be saved and lose it but only in things like completely walking away from God and living in sin, not sinning and then dying before you have the chance to repent.
Micahmanism 2 weeks ago
People say "dont judge me" ... The Word (God) is judging them and we are simply to point it out and rebuke one another (self proclaimed Christians) that are openly or secretly sinning, but instead because of our evil hearts we turn around and say don't judge me. "The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
shanedungey 1 month ago
@jg0278 Gal 1:7 "Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you,and would pervert the gospel of Christ." Sadly U have been taght another gospel. 1 that only speaks of love and leaves out the judgement of God. Eminem may confess his wrongs with his mouth, but his actions, behaviour and lyrical content speak volumes more.If U knew Jesus Christ, U would recognize evil when it's presented. He's proud, and "rolls with the devil" like most who have sold their soul for fame & fortune
calvinclemons030 1 month ago
@jg0278 God is love, but let us not forget God is righteous and God is just.
NFStamper 1 month ago
@NFStamper WAIT god is an emotion?
waslambla 2 weeks ago
@jg0278 His point was the worshiping celebrities and longing to be just like them is foolish and ignorant. You have to be blind not to realize that most celebrities personal lives are a complete wreck. Why would you want to follow the same path they are on? Regardless of fame and fortune. Jesus does love Eminem, enough to die for him. But two people in a pit can't help each other. You need someone with tough love (Jesus) to get you out.
MOWIIZER 1 month ago
@jg0278 Your God hates people, too.
If God is love, by default, he is every other (human) emotion as well. Let's not limit him only to the good stuff. That's ignoring so very much.
SeedsOfHatred 1 month ago
@SeedsOfHatred God is the creator of all emotion, true. But if we (humans) can learn to control our emotions, God probably knows a thing or two about keeping His in check too. As in loving all that is good and hating evil. He doesn't hate people so much as he hates our wrong actions.
fightgar13 3 weeks ago
@jg0278 His whole point was to use Eminem as an example of the unblieving culture. We idolize and look up to them, but look at what Eminem is saying, admitting, and what it reveals about him. Driscoll isn't "judging" Eminem in the sense of condemning him as less than himself. God loves everyone, which is why we still exist right now (mercy), but at the same time he is a just and wrathful God who will punish all evil-doers (everyone) who do not place their faith in and submit to Christ.
ReconciledByFaith 1 month ago
@jg0278 ur dumb hes in bigtime sin of course we can judge any1 and every1 and we shuld judge ppl to b able to tell them to turn away from their sin in order to save them from eterenal hell.... now thts tru love.... a tru father who loves rebukes his children hope u get it.
fgh899 1 month ago
@jg0278 i don't think he is meaning to criticize him. Pastors just have to point out celebrities and false teachers sometimes because it is easy for people to get caught up in thinking celebrities have it all together when most of them are lacking the one thing we say is of only importance, Christ.
phonebush 1 month ago
@jg0278 What eminem doesn't do and has yet to do is repent, which is what he is saying.
rarariotify 3 weeks ago
@jg0278 God doesn't insult? read the entire 23rd chapter of Matthew. God is love but sometimes the most loving thing to do is to humble someone so they don't get thrown in hell for their pride.
fightgar13 3 weeks ago
@jg0278
God doesn't insult? Have you read the Old Testament lately? Jeremiah? Isaiah? Hosea? What about Jesus' letter to Laodiceaea in Revelation 3?
But the point being made here is that even though Slim knows he's messed up, he still insists on being the captain of his own life. He needs to turn his life over to one more competent to pilot him: God.
Orenotter 3 weeks ago
@Orenotter Actually, little fun fact, Eminem has always believed in God and was actually baptized about three weeks before beginning to record Recovery. Now while some people are more evident in their faith and who they follow, that isn't necessarily for everyone. As cliche as this sounds, Em has a reputation to keep, and he does that while just rapping, instead of rapping how he used to. Unfortunately, it often takes longer than one may think to fully transform your entire life.
weareironmen 3 weeks ago
@weareironmen He is probably just following the fad, now (especially in the rap game) it is "cool" to be born again and get saved so he wants to be a part of that. No doubt eminem must be ashamed of some of the ridiculous shit he produced that got him his fame, no doubt he sold his soul to the devil and realize the full repercussions of it. It might be too late em, better hope you are one of God's elect.
WorshipInTruth 3 weeks ago
@weareironmen
Then his reputation needs to be the first thing to go.
Orenotter 3 weeks ago
@weareironmen you obviously don't understand what it means to become a new creature... stop covering for people and believe what the Scriptures say!
ferlonjrTV 2 weeks ago
@ferlonjrTV I obviously don't know what it means? Are you honestly that thick that you believe that you're so high and mighty and Christian that you can tell OTHERS that they don't know what it means to follow the same God you follow? It's people like you who turn non-Christians away from God.
weareironmen 1 day ago
@jg0278 but remember the chastening that comes with His love - I agree there shouldn't be any laughing at someone's pain - but it's important to make correction or else the mistakes are still there and they are still one the same path
BsmJahsh 3 weeks ago
@jg0278 Eminem is totally honest and as such, he would admit readily that Pastor Mark is not insulting him, but just telling the truth, bang on. Yr comment insults Eminems intelligence. Eminem is anti-NWO which is brilliant, I follow him in that. He also admits he's just a human doing his best in his personal life..
God is love, yes, - love is honesty. Mark and Eminem are honest. Being dishonest isn't love.
IdaSputum 3 weeks ago
@jg0278 God is love. But he is also Holy. Jesus lovingly warned about Hell. "I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish." Luke 13:3
soulwarrior77 3 weeks ago
@jg0278 Why does the fact that God is love negate the fact that Eminem should repent for his sins? Eminem is still out there setting bad example for kids and society in general with his songs about sex, murder, drugs, etc.
The fact is that if Eminem somewhere during a concert would he go to hell or heaven? The fact that we are unsure about this should drive you to preach the gospel to and bring people to Jesus so that they may know for sure that their is a greater place than this.
TheUnshamedMovement 3 weeks ago
@jg0278
How do you read Matthew 23, where Jesus calls the Pharisees: Hypocrites, whitewashed tombs, and blind guides?
God is indeed love, but He isn't just love.
JesusMostHigh 2 weeks ago 5
@JesusMostHigh What do you mean God isn't just love? His word says that he is love.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 3 days ago
@jg0278 I agree with you. He wasn't dissing on the guy. In context he was talking about how Being famous isn't everything. I bet you he was giving this sermon over Solomon who was very rich, but found that it was all for nothing. God is love. Yes. Jesus died for everyone. But it is our Job to let our brothers know when they do wrong. We help them because we love them. Eminem, I hope finds God's love. He would have one great testimony. Are we our brother's keepers? Yes... Yes we are!
TH3B3A57 2 weeks ago
@jg0278 Gotta spend more time in your Bible, love. :D
RockSprites 2 weeks ago
@jg0278 Wow. You are wrong on so many levels it's amazing. And what's even sadder, you probably don't read your Bible or know it. You don't pray either... and you have the nerve to act like you know God? Did you know that not everyone in hell claimed to be heathens? Do you know that a false teacher THINKS he or she is doing the will of God? I'd be careful about what position you take, it may be a everlasting "mistake."
minott6 2 weeks ago
@jg0278 Also, where did you get the idea that God doesn't insult? From which Bible? Since you think you're right, let's go to the Bible and get the answers. You'll find that your understanding of what God is may be completely from the pits of hell. This preacher is telling the truth about celebrities, and needs to since kids tend to idolize them which is dangerous. What preacher would NOT discredit celebrities?... I don't understand your points here.
minott6 2 weeks ago
@jg0278 what if we are called to face reality as it is and work on not judging at the same time? God is love and truth and he calls us to be bold. i'm just asking cause i don't fully agree with you but i may be misunderstanding you
ninjawitafro 2 weeks ago
hahahahaha
Beastify9pointO 1 month ago
Wow it never ends people just can not stop talking about eminem Hey Mark Fuck you buddy suck a fuckin dick you fake ass wannabe bitch.
malachi31369 1 month ago
@malachi31369 Are you satisfied now? Do you think he can hear you or would even take his time to read your comment? How futile
trealboihottie 1 month ago
There he is judging Eminem. Jeez I think KJ-52 said it best that most people "Sit and and hate on you, instead of dropping to their kness, takin' time to pray for you."
WIldFire979 1 month ago
@WIldFire979 He isn't judging Eminem according to your definition of judging (down-talking, insulting). His pronouncement was that Eminem wasn't doing 'well,' and according to Eminem's own lyrics, clearly he is having difficulty. Judging doesn't mean merely disagreeing with someone, or merely saying anything at all that could be controversial or off-putting. You seem quite soft. Am I judging you right now? Because I disagree? Mark obviously means well and has concern for Eminem, it isn't judging
Limbsy 1 month ago
You know this for sure? I have heard he is attempting to follow Jesus. What up
billhabing 1 month ago
driscoll is the example of why people avoid church. stop pointing fingers! whether you are right or wrong, it doesn't accomplish anything.
he has another video going on about how avatar is eastern garbage. ITS A MOVIE ABOUT GIANT BLUE PEOPLE! STOP TAKING IT SERIOUSLY!
gabe0083 1 month ago
Its not just celebs that aren't doing good. Humanity as a whole is having the same problems. Celebs just so happen to make the news when it happens to them. Drugs, prostitution, cheating. It's everywhere. He's trying to say being rich and famous doesn't take those problems away. Money doesn't solve everything. As far as the Eminem reference...while Marshall is trying to make a change I think that he, like many famous people, take for granted the power of influence they hold.
MrShane2189 1 month ago
I'm sure talking to himself won't help Eminem.
Cenamark2 1 month ago
All in all, Driscoll is OK, but from time to time he will make outlandish and sweeping generalizations about all manner of things. For example, in this case he pronounces that celebs, the rich, whatever, are not doing so well. This absurb logic about putting ALL such people in the same box in downright childish. Watch your mouth, Mark. Please.
Redo12able 1 month ago
@Redo12able obviously he isn't saying that ALL celebrities are bad, but i think you would agree that many, if not most, and especially the most prominent, are extremely screwed up.
GazawayJD 1 month ago
@Redo12able What he is saying is people that are portrayed as "idols" are in just as much shit as the rest of us.
paintballFR3AK8 1 month ago
irony
NastyNateFilms 1 month ago
Great job misinterpreting the song, Mr. Driscoll. In the song, "Not Afraid", Em admits that his past self was not a great person despite his best intentions but he wants to do better from now on. And if you want to do better, take his hand and walk with him while he walks. He never said that wants people to follow him like he's Jesus but rather "Hey, need a friend? I'll be a friend. I can't judge considering all the stuff I've done."
toyamwarr 1 month ago
Hahahaha, you are a fuckhead..someones trying to fix their life? Give him a break dickhead.
MrTCOBJIMMY 1 month ago
I don't think he heard the whole album lol
Soljaz0111 1 month ago
@Soljaz0111 He doesn't need to. Because he knows everything lol.
He is an idiot.
Stefandurrr 1 month ago
i never thought i would say this to a wane be paster but ure no better than what comes out of the toilet.so dont judge
godlovessoldiers 1 month ago
he knows a guy who rose from death!? LOL!
slickman911 1 month ago
@slickman911 hes talkin bout jesus dumbass, grow some brains. "LOL!"
retards on youtube..
f2pgotdone 1 month ago
@f2pgotdone the retards are the ones who believe a man can rise from the dead!
slickman911 1 month ago
@slickman911 How is it "retarded" to believe that someone can rise from the dead?
jordan19862000 1 month ago
@jordan19862000 cause its impossible for someone to rise from the dead. no where in history, medically, or scientifically has it happened!
slickman911 1 month ago
@slickman911 But to say, "because its impossible" is presupposing that people can't rise from the dead prior to the evidence. The four gospel accounts are historical documents and they do record Jesus rising from the dead.
jordan19862000 1 month ago
@jordan19862000 " "because its impossible" is presupposing that people can't rise from the dead prior to the evidence.” --> no, “because its impossible” is pointing out that biologically such a thing is impossible. All with everything we know from modern medicine, to the human physiology, the “rising from the dead” claim is impossible. Its not a presupposition, its pointing out the facts. If people make a factual claim to the contrary they must provide evidence.
BaneOfAzrael 1 month ago
@jordan19862000 For instance, If I told you that my friend grew wings and learned how to fly, You would not be “Presupposing” that people can’t grow wings prior to the evidence. A basic understanding of the human anatomy would show that its BS. Now you could ask me to show you this person, if I can’t then I would have to prove it to you by other means. Simply getting three other people to write about it, isn’t actually providing evidence.
BaneOfAzrael 1 month ago
@jordan19862000 “historical documents” --> The Epic of Gilgamesh, The iliad, etc are historical documents as well. It doesn’t mean that all the stories in them are correct. The Epic of Gilgamesh is actually the first known piece of literature in the history of mankind. It is a remarkable historical document.
BaneOfAzrael 1 month ago
@jordan19862000 But just because The Epic of Gilgamesh is a historical document You probably don’t believe That Gilgamesh was half God half man, Enlil Is the father of all gods or that Ea disobeyed Enlil and warned Shurrupak that enlil was going to flood the world on account of mankind being intolerable, and instructed him to build a boat from his house and take aboard the seed of every living creature.
BaneOfAzrael 1 month ago
@jordan19862000 Interesting fact: The Epic of Gilgamesh Came from Ancient Sumeria. Abraham was born there.
BaneOfAzrael 1 month ago
@slickman911 By the way, even the most critical, non-religious historians will grant you there is enough historical evidence to grant the following; a man named Jesus was born in Bethlehem, he died on a Roman cross around 33 AD, he was buried in a tomb, his tomb was found empty, there are eye-witness accounts of him appearing to people, and a huge following was started in his name. (cont.)
jordan19862000 1 month ago
@slickman911 Given all the evidence, the most PLAUSIBLE explanation is that he rose from the dead. Some say "well, the body was switched, it was an impersonator" etc., but those are "you could say" stories and there is no evidence for them. Also, the historical documents of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are recorded closer to the events and have more copies than any other ancient documents. The fall of rome was even recorded for 700 years after it happened. See "Gary Habermas: Resurrection"
jordan19862000 1 month ago
he is just mad cause Eminem could beat him in a rap battle
jekyllnhydebaby 1 month ago
@jekyllnhydebaby Thats funny
707TruthSeeker 1 month ago
On his first album and the only one God commits genocid than he loves us all.........Yea Eminem is evil.
TheBoggieDude 1 month ago
-ERY EVER DID OR HAS OR DOES SO STOP IT and love him to god bless
vinnyrussian 2 months ago
Why did you watch this?. To make a remark about our lord Jesus Christ?. You should repent and ask GOD THE LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS for forgiveness if you don't want to and if you DON'T love god STOP always talking bad about him. Talking bad about him isn't going to get you anywhere really it isn't there's no good that's gonna come for talking bad about GOD. ONCE AGAIN THERE IS NO!! GOOD THATS GONNA COME WITH TALKING BAD ABOUT GOD. You're heavenly father that LOVES YOU MORE THEN ANYONE EV
vinnyrussian 2 months ago
@vinnyrussian Something you may not be aware of is that Christian channels are notorious for censoring comments. I could give you numerous examples. When a Christian doesn't actively stifle free speech, this is what Youtube looks like.
We atheists are use to it because our channels are a free-for-all where Christians bombard us with criticisms. We're just use to it.
Kudos to any Christian that doesn't heavily censor comments!
HellRehab 1 month ago
@HellRehab Serious question...do go the the Islam, and buddist channels as well? I'm not trying to be funny..but why do atheists even care or pay attention to what Christians believe. I don't understand...I wouldn't debate with someone if I thought they are crazy for believing in an invisible GOD. There must something more to it. Why do you even care what we believe?
707TruthSeeker 1 month ago
@707TruthSeeker
For starters, Christianity is anti-intellectual and anti-science. Today Christianity is responsible for stultifying the science education of our children by trespassing into the High School biology class. This resistance to science by religion isn't new. Organized christianity opposed investigation into the natural world in the Renaissance by banning the teachings of Gallileo .
Today children in Africa are being harmed or killed on suspicion of witchcraft.
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HellRehab 1 month ago
@707TruthSeeker You will no doubt object as this is not your version of Christianity. Your type of Christianity takes place in modern buildings with padded pews, however the truth claims of Christianity include the existence of demons and the performance of exorcisms, even by Jesus (see matthew.) Local zealots take advantage of the ignorant and harm children today. I'd love for you to explain to villagers that exorcisms are not necessary because demons aren't real but, your church
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HellRehab 1 month ago
@707TruthSeeker teaches otherwise.
From the historic subjugation of women, to current homophobia and the doctrine of Hell I oppose christianity. Christianity and Islam divide us by telling children that they are born 'dead in sin' and must get fixed before they burn forever. The thousands of factions of Christianity confuse the situation with some fundamentalist pastors preaching that Catholics aren't "true" christians etc. etc. etc
You get my drift? I won't continue or I'll get blocked.:)
HellRehab 1 month ago
@HellRehab That whole repent now or burn in hell mindset is poison. Anyone who tries to convert with fear will have a far less likely chance than to convert with love. Thats some west baptist mindset.
Tinsletooth 1 month ago
@Tinsletooth Agreed, but I believe its an American Church mind set, but thankfully there has been a trend toward Love and Grace message of the Gospel. Man made traditions have really turned a lot of people away from the True Gospel (Love) .
707TruthSeeker 1 month ago
What guy? You mean that fictional zombie? Sorry Mark, I'm pretty sure that's just a fairy tale.
chaseren11 2 months ago
Jesus Christ this guy is a dumb ass!! Keep in mind, this is the SAME moron who thinks that yoga, the movie Avatar, and men who aren't manly enough are all evil/bad things. It makes me want to puke that anyone takes him seriously. I wish so much he would debate someone on Christianity or god or religion or whatever just so I could quickly see that smarmy look get quickly wiped off his fat face.
chaseren11 2 months ago
@chaseren11 GO READ YOUR BIBLE!!!!!!!! STUDY IT LEARN IT!!!!!!!! AND THAN SEE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!
loganbrennis 2 months ago
@chaseren11 Check it out.. this guy is no better that you are me. Pastors are human and say things that my be inaccurate.Whoever its not about him or avatar or yoga,its about your salvation and the message of the Gospel.
707TruthSeeker 1 month ago
He knows someone who rose from death? Oh, he's probably talking about his imaginary friend.
JonO387 2 months ago
this guy sure does hate a lot of things for
texan1120 2 months ago
Firstly, that is a misinterpretation of the album, it is actually about how Eminem is trying to put his life back together, and he says "come take my hand" so as to reach out to other people with similar ordeals so they can fight a common struggle together. Secondly, it is just bad rhetoric to use a single man as a generalization for a much larger group (especially when he is inaccurate in the first place).
alottaballsful 2 months ago
@irishxxkelt: The gospel does not always bring loving comments from people who hear it. A lot of people were annoyed by what Jesus said.
ImKrissLee 2 months ago 20
@ImKrissLee because what jesus said was totally opposed to what they believed. They thought he was going over throw the roman empire and rule the world but he was just some dude that came planted a ministry and died so by his grace we could all live eternally with him.
willmorris2009 1 month ago
@ImKrissLee People will be annoyed whenever you bring up morality. It's not hard to be provocative, and it doesn't mean that you are right when you do it.
0utgoingMessages 1 month ago
This guy is a fucking moron. If he actually took time to look at ems career, he might actually know what the fuck he's talking about.
69suckithard 2 months ago
@69suckithard with a name like yours, I didn't think you would be giving posisitive feedback. Secondly, Ems career stands nothing to the life of Christ. Thats what he meant, and he was right. He doesn't only mean "Eminem needs to model himself after Christ" but that all should. Any one man who says, "By myself I can fix all the problems of my life" is a fool.
houseonarock21 2 months ago
Mark Driscoll has got this so right. I've listened to about 50 of his sermons off his website, several more than once, and I plan to listen to the rest of them in the future. Thank you Mark!
jammin6816 2 months ago
Is there a continuation of this videio, I'd like to see it.
eukleyvcardoso 2 months ago
@eukleyvcardoso Go marshill.com and search "luke's Gospel" I'm not sure which sermon this is, but you can scroll through them to see.
RasheemH 2 months ago
00:03 sperm?
brendanCVC 2 months ago
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JeremeeT 2 months ago
Im tired of people comparing eminem to god, i mean hes good and all but hes no eminem
robinhood511 2 months ago
@drumrnva someone telling me that there is no ultimate truth is, making that theory itself an ultimate truth. so if that philosophy cannot hold itself up, ultimate truth must really exist. just something to think about. but yes, it does get tiring for people to tell you what to do, which is why it's so important to find out for yourself!
guineapigb8 2 months ago
I am pretty sure Eminem is a Christian.
TriforceTrinity 3 months ago
@TriforceTrinity saying and doing are two very different things.
T33Babu 2 months ago
@TriforceTrinity you srsly believe that?
steeljosh36 2 months ago
By the way you're not a preacher, you're an entertainer just like Eminem. You make a lot of money off of these seminars. Just like the guy from Fox News that was trying to make the point to Michael Moore while speaking to him when he went down to wall street to support the the wall street protesters. Mark, you are the 1 percent.
thesilencer2551 3 months ago
@thesilencer2551 Totally disagree because Pastor Mark Driscoll has made a dramatic change in my life and are you made because your an eminem fan and he said the truth. He totally right celebrities arent healthy people and being a Pastor means risking it all and i dont know were you got he wants to be rich from! :|
MrTurboRR 3 months ago
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