There are a lot of training methods out there,find the one that works for you.I've tried just about everything and that's what I enjoy about bodybuilding it's never boring to me.
I tried a version of this with hypertropic training which has you doing only one set in your last week of pyramiding.
it's so awesome to read the book and then watch these videos to see what he is talking about in action..incredible training, you've never been to absolute muscular failure until you've experienced this, it's truly the most intense feeling in the world
I love Mentzer's approach to training and found my best gains under this exact system. Training chest/delts/tris on day one. Back,bis,rear delts day 2. Quads hams, calves on day 3. &-9 days in between EACH ONE. So bodyparts were hit once PER MONTH. I went from an already large 285 to 305 in less than 3 months. All intensity was ridiculous with positive failure, followed by static failure, and then followed even by negative failure if the movement allowed. Incredible gains. You need a partner!
@torque122 so during that 9 days of rest do you just literally do nothing as far as training? i just always feel like i can at least do some low-intensity cardio, maybe some abs..or would you just recommend taking it easy for the whole 9 days?
@torque122 Interesting. Sounds effective, but at the same time, I enjoy working out too much to go less than once each week! I recently started working out based on advice on Jason Ferruggia's website: same muscle split as you, but training every day. Front, back, legs, repeat. The other major difference is that I am not going to failure; 5 reps of a heavy weight that I could lift 6-8 times going all-out (3-5 sets/exercise). Have seen strength gains in a month that I used to see in 6.
@torque122 #2: Of course I realise this is all about body-building, not strength traning, but we can't have one without the other right? I may experiment with the HIT system in a few months, though, just to see.
In Chest & Back Part III, and in the book, Mike stresses the importance of allowing no more than 3-5 seconds between the pre-exhaust set and the next set. But in this vid there is over 20 seconds between the end of the pec deck set and the start of the incline bench set. Any ideas? I'm not finding fault, it's just that the equipment is arranged similarly at my gym & I was thinking of doing flyes (which I don't hit the groove with) instead of the pec deck, just to to get under 5 seconds.
@SeisanStnc That's why he has Marcus do a rest/pause on the press, since the rest was longer than preferred. Normally, a set to positive failure, with static and maybe even negative failure is all you could stand. Rest/pause is very intense and should only be used a few times PER YEAR AT MOST!
Props to MM for thinking outside the box.But give periodization training a go.I've been in the fitness industry for a while, and I've yet to have seen long term progress from HIT exclusive training- not enough variation, thats the actual reason for stalled progress on this program.Read Charles Poliquin, or Google German Volume Training.I'm not trashing Mentzers ideas, He was a great man, a true thinker, but he wasnt the be-all, end-all.
@bfar74 Poliquin is a hard-core advocate of German Volume Training. I keep scanning his website for peer reviewed articles on the efficiacy of GVT but nothing there.. Compare this with Drew Baye's website which publishes peer reviewed scientific studies verifying HIT.
Poliquin is dishonest in his articles too. He claimed that Boyer Coe could never gain weight doing HIT and had to switch to volume. Complete lie as I found out from Boyer Coe himself.
@bfar74 Agreed. I've used this style of training before except I was more explosive on the positive portion of every rep to stimulate more fast twitch muscle fibers. The lack of variation does seem to halt progress at least for me. I also had issues with recovery. This is a great style of training though but I wouldn't recommend it all the time. I got bigger and stronger but also over trained a lot.
Sorry but I don't think lifting the weight deliberately slow ( 4 seconds positive and 4 seconds negative) is the best way to stimulate optimum muscle growth. I've seen a couple of HIT guys who lifts that way in my gym and they're all scrawny. I think lifting slow is for endurance not for muscle growth. Even Mike Mentzer never trained that way during he's competitive years.
mikes theory of slower slow was too energy consuiming for most people while you could work out longer do more exercises and reps and probaly get better results or you could follow mikes idea workout no more than a hour and a half a day and burn alot of energy
I remember reading when Ray Mentzer wrote about his arms training in Muscle Builder/Power back in 1979 (or -80?). He said that he and Mike were prompt believers in isometrics. They got so many things right.
Mike was absolutely correct about the three phases...lifting is the weakest point, static is stronger followed by the growth activator the negative rep. It comes from experience.
I like training with HIT. Its hard...but it feels good you can feel the muscle. But when I tell people about it they say its wrong training like that...They just dont understand. They say I need to lift heavy and fast...I tried both ways. But do I need to do them both with a period of time between them?! Or do I only need to workout with HIT?!
@thebetterhaloplayer HIT is all you need. I'd leave the HVT stuff well alone if I were you. Most don't understand the concept of HIT so don't worry about it. It's their loss.
@HIT4120 to be honest i think i mixture between HIT and HVT will be better than just HIT alone! But i totally agree that people think its all about lifting heavy weight with poor form so it is their loss!
@thebetterhaloplayer HIT is the only training you need. Volume is always detrimental. Period. Muscle growth is not complicated. It isn't easy. But it is a straightforward principle, and this video is all any trainee needs, even advanced trainees. Too many bodybuilders or trainees spend time RECOVERING from their workouts rather than GROWING from them. There IS A DIFFERENCE!
@thebetterhaloplayer Max-ot and HIT are the best out there. Volume training is for people who dont have lives so they decide to spend the day at the gym =D
@thebetterhaloplayer --Explosive movements are important if you are an athlete, because sports and combat are all about controlled explosiveness. Also, explosive movements have been proven to increase testosterone production. now, that doesn't mean that they are all you should do, do your HIT, and maybe after try to get a short set of explosive movements (cleans, push press, jumping squats &c.) you will feel the difference in your energy level and your overall strength.
HIT is for 8 CYCLES.....MEANS workout 1 IS CHEST, BACK . WORKOUT 2 IS LEGS. WORKOUT 3 IS SHOULDERS. WORKOUT 4 IS SQUATS WID EXTENSIONS.....NOTE WORKOUT 2 DOES NOT HAVE SQUATS.....DIS IS ONE CYCLE...U HAVE TO DO DIS ATLEAST 8 TIMES TO SEE SOME SERIOUS AND UNBELIEVABLE RESULTS....N D KEY IS REST...EACH WORKOUT IS MEANT TO BE DONE AFTER 3 DAYZ...TO GIVE A MINIMUM OF 8 DAYS OF REST TO EACH MUSCLE WORKED......DIS IS HOW U TRIGGER GROWTH....MORE REPS DO NUTHING......GOD BLESSUU
My understanding, and method of applying Mike's principles is one of honesty. I approach my sets with the mindset of perfect form. I don't throw weights I lift the weight that is required to develop the intensity of workout which is required to work the muscle to failure. I note it in my records and next session use this to judge the neccessary weight. As an ex forces soldier of immense fitness I concour that when executed properly, this training is challenging but massively rewarding
when you go slow you get more lactic acid in your muscles and its whey more painful, but it is better than just lifting it fast, bodybuilding is about focusing inside the muscle, not outside. Most people care about how much they can lift
@DaOsman1 your emphasizing the negative phase of the rep (3rd part of rep (positive,static,negative)), which, reportedly, causes the most micro-trauma (tearing) to the muscles, which in turn grow back bigger, stronger.
buy High intensity training - the mike mentzer way. That book as well as Mike's Heavy duty and heavy duty 2 are simply all you will ever need to achieve your potential. Coming from someone who has experienced pretty much every type of routine out there, this is by far and away the most logical and productive training I have ever experienced just try it and tell us what you think
Why are posters commenting on the Heavy Duty videos obsessed with how Mike and his brother looked at nearly 50 years old? Mike struggled for over a decade with an amphetamine addiction and if I'm not mistaken endured some serious back problems. Ray had Berger's disease which eventually resulted in kidney failure. I couldn't imagine the same people making fun of a 50 year old ex-football player with kidney disease.
It`s very hard to use very heavy weights and train with perfect form. most (including myself), tend to start using speed or momentum whith very heavy weights. Tough!
@GreasyGuerilla I thought the same, but i guess its easier to keep that perfect form, allows u to move quicker to different exercises and he was connected to the machine type somehow....
@GreasyGuerilla i recall they advocated machines cause it was safer for the negatives and going slow. logically machines for this sort of thing makes sense.
@GreasyGuerilla Another benefit for machines in this type of training, esp. if training alone, involves the mind. If you're underneath a freeweight - say, in a bench press or squat - it's easy to succumb to mental concerns about safety when nearing that last available repetition (as in, "What if I get the barbell down and can't get it back up?"), and therefore cut the set short by its one most vital repetition. Machines offer a way out from underneath if muscle failure occurs at the bottom.
This pek dek/incline press combo is the most intense training ive ever seen on youtube, and that includes watching countless pros - Dorian included. It is the very definition of hard training. Numb nuts like Branch warren would crap their pants if you told them to train like that. As Mentzer says at the end, could you imagine doing 20 sets like that? I couldnt imagine another one, never mind 20. Too many think they are training hard, but not possible with volume. Less really is more!! Just watch
Yup, people think that 1 set to failure is easier on the pros than the average trainee. Failure is failure, regardless to your level. A pro going 1 set to failure is no different than anyone else.
@piratelord99 he does the incline for a warm up , becuase it warms up all the muscles you are going to be using in the main workout , triceps and chest
Sorry, but the guy lifting the weight has too much roundness to be a bodybuilder. There's a lot of guys whose body's are too round to be Bodybuilders. E.G: Ronnie Coleman, Dorian Yates and Jay Cutler.....all grotesqueries
@milnusthegnome thank you for this knowledge. im sure your actually the greatest bodybuilder in history and not some nobody talking shit behind a keyboard and a screen name.
@mrcwalk my sister in law is friends with Mike's daughter. Apparently Ray found Mike dead in 2001 and died a few days later himself, bizzare, sad shit
you may be growing doing what you're doing, but you would grow more or reach your current level quicker by keeping strict form when you lift. Eliminating momentum is the purpose, to ensure that the only force lifting the weight is the kinetic power fo your muscle fibres and not momentum, therefore increasing the intensity of the lift and subsequently the results.
@tommy3663 He's talking a lot here because he's communicating with not only the subject, but the audience too. Everything he's saying is benefiting someone, so rather than assaulting Mentzer, you should be proverbially thanking him like any civil human being would.
It just too bad that Ray Mentzer did not get to make the videos he was planning in doing, that was going to be an execise videos that have detailed instruction, to show exact exercise science of each exercise.
the point is too lift heavy weight slow
victorrod9669 3 days ago
There are a lot of training methods out there,find the one that works for you.I've tried just about everything and that's what I enjoy about bodybuilding it's never boring to me.
I tried a version of this with hypertropic training which has you doing only one set in your last week of pyramiding.
ElmwoodParkHulk 4 days ago
it's so awesome to read the book and then watch these videos to see what he is talking about in action..incredible training, you've never been to absolute muscular failure until you've experienced this, it's truly the most intense feeling in the world
steevojackass 1 week ago
fuck his chest is gona explode lol
JustSimplyMuscle 1 week ago
It would produce muscle growth, but workout would be boring and slow
Devestato72 1 week ago
this is how i train... and i figured it myself... everyone critiques me lol... i didn't know this was an actual type of training...
rufiorocksmysocks 1 week ago
Lmao as if the painful exercises arent enough he has a monotone voice telling him shit he probably doesnt want to hear at that point lol
lahme15 1 week ago
im guessing i shouldnt do this as a football player, we need explosion right?
GuyWithGun789 1 week ago
Inspirational!
buck22dblaze 1 week ago
I love Mentzer's approach to training and found my best gains under this exact system. Training chest/delts/tris on day one. Back,bis,rear delts day 2. Quads hams, calves on day 3. &-9 days in between EACH ONE. So bodyparts were hit once PER MONTH. I went from an already large 285 to 305 in less than 3 months. All intensity was ridiculous with positive failure, followed by static failure, and then followed even by negative failure if the movement allowed. Incredible gains. You need a partner!
torque122 1 week ago
@torque122 so during that 9 days of rest do you just literally do nothing as far as training? i just always feel like i can at least do some low-intensity cardio, maybe some abs..or would you just recommend taking it easy for the whole 9 days?
steevojackass 1 week ago
@torque122 Interesting. Sounds effective, but at the same time, I enjoy working out too much to go less than once each week! I recently started working out based on advice on Jason Ferruggia's website: same muscle split as you, but training every day. Front, back, legs, repeat. The other major difference is that I am not going to failure; 5 reps of a heavy weight that I could lift 6-8 times going all-out (3-5 sets/exercise). Have seen strength gains in a month that I used to see in 6.
dustybeijing 1 week ago
@torque122 #2: Of course I realise this is all about body-building, not strength traning, but we can't have one without the other right? I may experiment with the HIT system in a few months, though, just to see.
dustybeijing 1 week ago
In Chest & Back Part III, and in the book, Mike stresses the importance of allowing no more than 3-5 seconds between the pre-exhaust set and the next set. But in this vid there is over 20 seconds between the end of the pec deck set and the start of the incline bench set. Any ideas? I'm not finding fault, it's just that the equipment is arranged similarly at my gym & I was thinking of doing flyes (which I don't hit the groove with) instead of the pec deck, just to to get under 5 seconds.
SeisanStnc 2 weeks ago
@SeisanStnc That's why he has Marcus do a rest/pause on the press, since the rest was longer than preferred. Normally, a set to positive failure, with static and maybe even negative failure is all you could stand. Rest/pause is very intense and should only be used a few times PER YEAR AT MOST!
torque122 1 week ago
great vid!
ignacious1987 1 month ago
so sad that both of these men died within days of each other at very young ages. so so sad.
doggieman1961 1 month ago
I want to grow Mike, lets to it...no homo.
Gherman3991 2 months ago 2
i tried this yester day and it hurts like hell now . it's great :D
ninosarkol 3 months ago
he got a hell of a pump out of those two workouts. I just found out about this and this is where its at.
ThePFitness 3 months ago
I do agree it's not how heavy you can push the weight but how hard you can contract your muscles.
Krico2006 5 months ago
Props to MM for thinking outside the box.But give periodization training a go.I've been in the fitness industry for a while, and I've yet to have seen long term progress from HIT exclusive training- not enough variation, thats the actual reason for stalled progress on this program.Read Charles Poliquin, or Google German Volume Training.I'm not trashing Mentzers ideas, He was a great man, a true thinker, but he wasnt the be-all, end-all.
bfar74 5 months ago
@bfar74 Poliquin is a hard-core advocate of German Volume Training. I keep scanning his website for peer reviewed articles on the efficiacy of GVT but nothing there.. Compare this with Drew Baye's website which publishes peer reviewed scientific studies verifying HIT.
Poliquin is dishonest in his articles too. He claimed that Boyer Coe could never gain weight doing HIT and had to switch to volume. Complete lie as I found out from Boyer Coe himself.
xanthromera 5 months ago
@bfar74 Agreed. I've used this style of training before except I was more explosive on the positive portion of every rep to stimulate more fast twitch muscle fibers. The lack of variation does seem to halt progress at least for me. I also had issues with recovery. This is a great style of training though but I wouldn't recommend it all the time. I got bigger and stronger but also over trained a lot.
CadeMcArtor10 1 month ago
Is there any specific ab workout in HIT included or do you just claim your ab muscles with the Big ones like Squads or Deadlift?
DerTeke 5 months ago
@DerTeke In High Intensity Training the Mike Mentzer way (Book) Mike recommends training abs on leg work out day.
3swaad4 5 months ago
HIT was definitely a move in the right direction. I think Dorian perfected it. Not a fan of the slow positives.
mmamilano 6 months ago 3
Honestly what I got out of his training was to focus hard on the negative and squeeze at EVERY CONTRACTION!
sellyintegra 6 months ago
to be honest im confused what you do, i really want to try this but what do i do?!
razaviknows 6 months ago
Sorry but I don't think lifting the weight deliberately slow ( 4 seconds positive and 4 seconds negative) is the best way to stimulate optimum muscle growth. I've seen a couple of HIT guys who lifts that way in my gym and they're all scrawny. I think lifting slow is for endurance not for muscle growth. Even Mike Mentzer never trained that way during he's competitive years.
TeeJoe18 6 months ago
So now I know what kind of training I will do. IT's the HIT. I like this intuitively.
p0rnomarv 6 months ago
some pros . do 18 sets for chest and 16 for back to send smaller grow impulse
jebaj0czeski0marynaz 8 months ago
mikes theory of slower slow was too energy consuiming for most people while you could work out longer do more exercises and reps and probaly get better results or you could follow mikes idea workout no more than a hour and a half a day and burn alot of energy
kingdaleclarke 8 months ago
iv started mikes consolidation routine .. so far so so good cheack out my progress
if you like hardgainer-ectomorph.blogspot.com
tonymontana72c 9 months ago
I remember reading when Ray Mentzer wrote about his arms training in Muscle Builder/Power back in 1979 (or -80?). He said that he and Mike were prompt believers in isometrics. They got so many things right.
drumsanddrumming 10 months ago
Mike was absolutely correct about the three phases...lifting is the weakest point, static is stronger followed by the growth activator the negative rep. It comes from experience.
Agui007 10 months ago
I like training with HIT. Its hard...but it feels good you can feel the muscle. But when I tell people about it they say its wrong training like that...They just dont understand. They say I need to lift heavy and fast...I tried both ways. But do I need to do them both with a period of time between them?! Or do I only need to workout with HIT?!
thebetterhaloplayer 10 months ago 6
@thebetterhaloplayer HIT is all you need. I'd leave the HVT stuff well alone if I were you. Most don't understand the concept of HIT so don't worry about it. It's their loss.
HIT4120 10 months ago 10
@HIT4120 to be honest i think i mixture between HIT and HVT will be better than just HIT alone! But i totally agree that people think its all about lifting heavy weight with poor form so it is their loss!
barelylegalbeast 9 months ago
@thebetterhaloplayer HIT is the only training you need. Volume is always detrimental. Period. Muscle growth is not complicated. It isn't easy. But it is a straightforward principle, and this video is all any trainee needs, even advanced trainees. Too many bodybuilders or trainees spend time RECOVERING from their workouts rather than GROWING from them. There IS A DIFFERENCE!
torque122 10 months ago
@thebetterhaloplayer Max-ot and HIT are the best out there. Volume training is for people who dont have lives so they decide to spend the day at the gym =D
The3nlightened0ne 9 months ago
@thebetterhaloplayer --Explosive movements are important if you are an athlete, because sports and combat are all about controlled explosiveness. Also, explosive movements have been proven to increase testosterone production. now, that doesn't mean that they are all you should do, do your HIT, and maybe after try to get a short set of explosive movements (cleans, push press, jumping squats &c.) you will feel the difference in your energy level and your overall strength.
mecaganopoderentrar 9 months ago
@thebetterhaloplayer
HIT is for 8 CYCLES.....MEANS workout 1 IS CHEST, BACK . WORKOUT 2 IS LEGS. WORKOUT 3 IS SHOULDERS. WORKOUT 4 IS SQUATS WID EXTENSIONS.....NOTE WORKOUT 2 DOES NOT HAVE SQUATS.....DIS IS ONE CYCLE...U HAVE TO DO DIS ATLEAST 8 TIMES TO SEE SOME SERIOUS AND UNBELIEVABLE RESULTS....N D KEY IS REST...EACH WORKOUT IS MEANT TO BE DONE AFTER 3 DAYZ...TO GIVE A MINIMUM OF 8 DAYS OF REST TO EACH MUSCLE WORKED......DIS IS HOW U TRIGGER GROWTH....MORE REPS DO NUTHING......GOD BLESSUU
jujharsandhu 6 months ago
My understanding, and method of applying Mike's principles is one of honesty. I approach my sets with the mindset of perfect form. I don't throw weights I lift the weight that is required to develop the intensity of workout which is required to work the muscle to failure. I note it in my records and next session use this to judge the neccessary weight. As an ex forces soldier of immense fitness I concour that when executed properly, this training is challenging but massively rewarding
3swaad4 10 months ago
when you go slow you get more lactic acid in your muscles and its whey more painful, but it is better than just lifting it fast, bodybuilding is about focusing inside the muscle, not outside. Most people care about how much they can lift
pvsg1990 10 months ago
Somebody could help me understand this traning program ? thanks
DaOsman1 11 months ago
@DaOsman1 your emphasizing the negative phase of the rep (3rd part of rep (positive,static,negative)), which, reportedly, causes the most micro-trauma (tearing) to the muscles, which in turn grow back bigger, stronger.
batterycock 11 months ago
@batterycock
buy High intensity training - the mike mentzer way. That book as well as Mike's Heavy duty and heavy duty 2 are simply all you will ever need to achieve your potential. Coming from someone who has experienced pretty much every type of routine out there, this is by far and away the most logical and productive training I have ever experienced just try it and tell us what you think
3swaad4 10 months ago
this would be a much better video if there was no techno music
morrieswigs 1 year ago 2
Why are posters commenting on the Heavy Duty videos obsessed with how Mike and his brother looked at nearly 50 years old? Mike struggled for over a decade with an amphetamine addiction and if I'm not mistaken endured some serious back problems. Ray had Berger's disease which eventually resulted in kidney failure. I couldn't imagine the same people making fun of a 50 year old ex-football player with kidney disease.
tmanx1 1 year ago
Best Motivation!!! Love It!!!
CONSTRINGACY 1 year ago
See. This monster only works out once every six days. Why are YOU doing more.
faffaflunkie 1 year ago 4
It`s very hard to use very heavy weights and train with perfect form. most (including myself), tend to start using speed or momentum whith very heavy weights. Tough!
drumsanddrumming 1 year ago
Seems like Markus wants to yell "SHUT UP AND LET ME DO THE DAMN EXERCISE!"
shinshoryuken 1 year ago
It's hard to believe that that is Mentzer
BMVLifestyle 1 year ago
c'mon markus!
natazer 1 year ago
I dont understand why he uses machines. Wouldn't free weights be more effective?
GreasyGuerilla 1 year ago
@GreasyGuerilla I thought the same, but i guess its easier to keep that perfect form, allows u to move quicker to different exercises and he was connected to the machine type somehow....
IrishRhavin 1 year ago
@GreasyGuerilla i recall they advocated machines cause it was safer for the negatives and going slow. logically machines for this sort of thing makes sense.
bentnosewp 1 year ago 2
@GreasyGuerilla Another benefit for machines in this type of training, esp. if training alone, involves the mind. If you're underneath a freeweight - say, in a bench press or squat - it's easy to succumb to mental concerns about safety when nearing that last available repetition (as in, "What if I get the barbell down and can't get it back up?"), and therefore cut the set short by its one most vital repetition. Machines offer a way out from underneath if muscle failure occurs at the bottom.
Tigerpaws9097826 1 year ago 3
@Tigerpaws9097826 that's a great point, agree with that 100%
nofearfor13 11 months ago
This pek dek/incline press combo is the most intense training ive ever seen on youtube, and that includes watching countless pros - Dorian included. It is the very definition of hard training. Numb nuts like Branch warren would crap their pants if you told them to train like that. As Mentzer says at the end, could you imagine doing 20 sets like that? I couldnt imagine another one, never mind 20. Too many think they are training hard, but not possible with volume. Less really is more!! Just watch
thomasmichael1 1 year ago 23
@thomasmichael1
Yup, people think that 1 set to failure is easier on the pros than the average trainee. Failure is failure, regardless to your level. A pro going 1 set to failure is no different than anyone else.
BenjaminPipic 1 year ago
@thomasmichael1 Hahah I love Branch but I agree. That guy weight "throws".
SR4LosersIsMYBITCH 11 months ago
they were great, the Mentzers, but one can`t but wonder how they they did`nt really take care of themselves.. should have deserved to grow old..
I even wrote to and got answer from Mike in 1979.. he was very kind.
drumsanddrumming 1 year ago
constantly attacking the greatest chest ever..."Thats Metzner Talk"
CutOff16 1 year ago
this is awesome,im defo gonna try this out
skopex18 1 year ago
why did he make him warm-up with a different chest exercise and not the pec deck flye?
piratelord99 1 year ago
@piratelord99 the incline will use the most muscle groups for a chest exercise so its a good warm up before going into other chest exercises
123GAZZA321 1 year ago
@piratelord99 he does the incline for a warm up , becuase it warms up all the muscles you are going to be using in the main workout , triceps and chest
hird1994 1 year ago
Sorry, but the guy lifting the weight has too much roundness to be a bodybuilder. There's a lot of guys whose body's are too round to be Bodybuilders. E.G: Ronnie Coleman, Dorian Yates and Jay Cutler.....all grotesqueries
milnusthegnome 1 year ago
@milnusthegnome thank you for this knowledge. im sure your actually the greatest bodybuilder in history and not some nobody talking shit behind a keyboard and a screen name.
stiks3784 1 year ago
@milnusthegnome What the hell are you talking about? Too much roundness? Roundness is good not bad lol
73Nateman 1 year ago
i don't like the slow "positive" concentric
k94845 1 year ago
whats the name of the song pliz ??
electrovampir0 1 year ago
Isn't Mike of German descent as well?
WilhelmPolzl 1 year ago
amazing
milossarcevful 1 year ago
I hear you germans are a special breed.
Riedl1000 1 year ago 3
i love this guy, he is a torture specialist.....................the ONLY way to train!
Does anyone know if he's still alive and coaching?
I take it dorian yates learned his methods from him directly, as he coahes people in almost identical fashion, with just a few modifications.
mrcwalk 1 year ago 2
@mrcwalk my sister in law is friends with Mike's daughter. Apparently Ray found Mike dead in 2001 and died a few days later himself, bizzare, sad shit
StretchyButthole 1 year ago
@StretchyButthole ...i think one had hearts problems and the other had kidney failure .not sure
fellmeup10 1 year ago
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mrhighintensity 1 year ago
mike mentzer isn't he dead?
superdoghk 2 years ago
yes he passed in 2001 at 49.
eugdog106 1 year ago
So when rep' quicker than this, am I doing it wrong? I'm growing, and I don't jerk it but this is way, way slower than I do...
benniturd 2 years ago
you may be growing doing what you're doing, but you would grow more or reach your current level quicker by keeping strict form when you lift. Eliminating momentum is the purpose, to ensure that the only force lifting the weight is the kinetic power fo your muscle fibres and not momentum, therefore increasing the intensity of the lift and subsequently the results.
bknives 1 year ago
well if ur growin dun change ur workout, if it n broke dun try 2 fix it
Playboy881 1 year ago
Mentzer was one of the greatest physiques ever but if he talked this much while I was doing a set I would have hit him over the head with a dumbell.
tommy3663 2 years ago 49
@tommy3663 Its for the video. Im sure during his usual clients he didnt talk this much.
estimaze 1 year ago
@tommy3663 hes only talking so much for the filming you goon
99Sorc 1 year ago 2
@tommy3663 He's talking a lot here because he's communicating with not only the subject, but the audience too. Everything he's saying is benefiting someone, so rather than assaulting Mentzer, you should be proverbially thanking him like any civil human being would.
sbowesuk 1 year ago 6
@tommy3663, Well....He IS filming a DVD....
yeagemk 1 year ago
@tommy3663 he spoke like this for the video obviously
doggieman1961 1 month ago
It just too bad that Ray Mentzer did not get to make the videos he was planning in doing, that was going to be an execise videos that have detailed instruction, to show exact exercise science of each exercise.
Strongbynature 2 years ago
the brothers at this point really aged badly.... r.i.p. guys
jvflexx 2 years ago 18
the guys got good shape
ardsam 2 years ago