Table Tennis Backhand Topspin

[abaysaleharami]

what rubber does Jeff plumb use?

[pingskills]

@abaysaleharami I was using Tenergy 05 when we filmed this video. Now I'm using a PingSkills Touch blade with Vega Pro rubbers.

[abaysaleharami]

@pingskills nice :) i can't find any video on youtube in which you are playing a singles match..why is that??

[pingskills]

@abaysaleharami Because I played in competitions long before YouTube was a big hit!

[abaysaleharami]

@pingskills oh ok.. i was hoping to see a game of yours

[pingskills]

@abaysaleharami We do have one of Alois though. If you search for Alois vs Italy I think you should find it.

[Da1dragonboi]

when you are playing table tennis, do you really have to wear those kinds of shorts, or can they be longer?

[MrBuuuuurp]

I meant like do longer shorts get in the way or something?

[MrBuuuuurp]

nothing against the shorts, but why do all table tennis players wear them?

[pingskills]

@MrBuuuuurp Good question. We'll have to try and get some better and more fashionable shorts.

[avrnic04]

@MrBuuuuurp Well , you should try to play 2-3 hours with some long pants and enjoy ur eggs boiled

[MrBuuuuurp]

@avrnic04 its not that bad to be honest, ive done it...now imagine playing 6 hours of tennis in any pants/shorts in 106 degree weather

and im really not trying to have a fight here, soooo...

[Detherocable]

my stroke is okayish... but then i cant get it too land on th table too often... do i brush the ball less like in a loopdrive or make the stroke more forward?

[pingskills]

@Detherocable You want to get plenty of topspin which gives you the margin for error. To do this you need the brushing contact. If you getting lots of topspin but the ball is still going long you need to have a more forward stroke.

[Detherocable]

supposing the ball reaches the top of the bounce at the edge of the table then how high is the racket to be held ? and what angle would be best for the same?

[pingskills]

@Detherocable Thanks for the question. The best thing to do is to go to our website and use our ask the coach section as we have much more room to answer your questions there! if the ball is higher you can use a more horizontal stroke and when the ball is lower you can use a slightly more vertical stroke.

[KickflipsForJesus]

Is a soft paddle being used in this video? If I use a hard paddle, can I still get this much topspin on my backhand? You look like you're clearing the net with a lot of room, but when I try to hit a topspin backhand, it just barely clears the net (doesn't get much spin).

[pingskills]

@KickflipsForJesus Yes you need a good paddle to generate the topspin which causes the ball to dip!

[mjshaheed]

@pingskills hi...what kind of paddle/brand do u recommend for a beginner like me?!!!

[pingskills]

@mjshaheed We recommend the PingSkills Rook. You can find out all about it on our website.

[abaysaleharami]

i have q question..what if the ball don't come out of the table like it drops just after net?? then how can we play the backhand topspin shot??

[pingskills]

@abaysaleharami Good question. If the ball is short so that it would bounce twice on the table then you can't play the backhand topspin shot like this. You need to look at playing a flick or a push. We have videos on both of these strokes on our website.

[ilovefatboys201]

thanks my backhand was hopeless and now can finally beat my dad!

Thanks

[hobbyguy99]

Thanks Guys! this video really helped my game

[pingskills]

@hobbyguy99 You're welcome!

[byronsrock4]

Ping skills is great but they really dont help traditional chinese bat holders very much. ):

[pingskills]

@byronsrock4 That is true, we do tend to focus on the shakehand grip as that is what both Alois and myself use. We do have one video on penhold techniques and a lot of the principles in our videos apply regardless of your grip.

[98nfsmw98]

What about backhand topspin to backhand topspin? Do you have a tutorial of that? Because I know with it your bat has to start below the table

[lolirockso]

okay, well i have a robot at home, and i can get crazy topspin forehand, and i can chop, and get sidespin both ways backhand but I just can't get topspin. My friend can get crazy bankhand topspin, he says when I do it I push too much, and he does it the same way as you do, but he can't get me able to do it, sometimes it works if i just bend my paddle and flick my wrist up but when I try to do it more like how u do in this video, i feel pain in my shoulder, am i doing anything wrong?

[Sk8ingGuitarplayer]

is it bad if i dont flip my paddle around to do the backhand, because i just use the same side has my forehand topspin

[pingskills]

@Sk8ingGuitarplayer If you are using the shakehand grip then I would recommend using a different side of your bat for the backhand and forehand. With the penhold grip you don't need to do this unless you want to use the reverse penhold backhand.

If you want some of your questions answered in detail then try out the Ask the Coach section of our website. We have more room to post answers there.

[TheRambo165]

I'm very bad in my backhand so pls help . give me some tips :(

[pingskills]

@TheRambo165 Begin by concentrating on the start and finish position of the stroke. See if you can get someone to feed you multi-ball by hitting ball after ball to your backhand so you can hit a lot of topspins in a row to get the feel for the stroke. By getting the start and finish positions correct you are well on your way to having a good backhand topspin.

[harry1549]

Hi im using long pimples for my backhand so i just want to know if i can use this method to attack for my backhand and if no,how do i attack with my long pimples?

[pingskills]

@harry1549 No. Long pimples don't have much friction so you can't really generate your own topspin. Long pimples are generally used as a defensive rubber.

[xBarneyCalhounx]

@harry1549 No,i once used long pimple.Never do that with your long pimple!The ball will be very high enough for your opponent to smack ya.

I once used long pimple.Believe me!

[xmangosaintx]

i seriously have no idea how to do this.. i swear i tried everything here, but the ball keeps going off the table or into the table.. how do i make sure on my strength and angle?

the more strength i put the more horizontal my bat?

what a bummer...

[Spackliwackli]

@xmangosaintx think about how you would throw a frisbee, it's quite a similar movement ;)

[pingskills]

@Spackliwackli Nice tip!

[heartlockedup]

this is my favorite shot, it feels really good hitting these! great tutorial! Will be watching all :)

[pingskills]

@heartlockedup Great! Be sure to check out our website too!

[machanmax041]

Is this the same thing as the backhand loop?

[pingskills]

@machanmax041 Yes this is also known as the backhand loop.

[sisDelo]

@pingskills urmm whats the difference between backhand topspin and backhand loop? from what i learn, when the starting position for the bat is lower than the usual, thus its looping. and when the starting position of the bat is like stroking position, thus its topspin.

[pingskills]

@sisDelo We refer to the backhand loop and backhand topspin as the same stroke.

[sisDelo]

@pingskills thanks for the tips. but there is another question which is out of topic in this video.

1st : how to improve reaction time?

2nd: how to improve footwork?

3rd :does using small bat in training are useful to improve accuracy? or just use the standard size bat for training to improve accuracy?

4th:does bad vision will make it harder to focus and hit the ball:?

thanks for the help =), i really appreaciate it.

[pingskills]

@sisDelo They are all great questions. There is not a lot of room to answer here so the best thing to do is use the "Ask the Coach" section of our website. The great thing about doing this is that all of your questions are recorded so you can look back over them whenever you want.

[xmangosaintx]

@sisDelo good question.. :) i have bad vision too.. and i think that lead to my reaction time.. i shall follow up on this on the pingskill website. :) thanks.

[lolirockso]

@sisDelo practice

[Hitchthebest91]

That's not a topspin. The arm's movement is almost correct, but the hitting is not.

[bunnybunzz1]

who wears short shorts? YOU DO

[HumLe27]

I think, there isn't a lot of spin in his topspinns

[Topspinify]

There is no reason to lift the ball that much when there is no underspin. You should teach the correct backhand loop technique close to the table foreward movement directly after bounce.

[TheGrandmaLaunchers]

y am i watching this vid

[Nabs07]

The feeling of hitting the ball hard and accurate over the net is so amazing when you get everything right and keep doing it. Brilliant.

[kevinqew]

Hi Jeff,

Your videos are great in general.. Just a small suggestion you guys need to look at this video "J-O Waldner / Jörgen Persson training video" and incorporate it in some of ur video for learning topspin..

Dropping the ball on the floor and lifting is the best and easiest method to learn topspin on the forehand and backhand.. I learnt the stoke in 2 days after watching that video..

[MrKhin]

I can do Backhand Topspin but I suck at doing Forehand Topspin.

I really think the Backhand is much better!

[maxxwave91]

parerea mea este ca tipu nu sta bine la masa deoarece picioarele trebuie sa fie la acelasi nivel iar pt un efect mai bun mingea se loveste cand e in dreptul mesei.;)

[WhiteGuy817]

ping pong r for pussys

[ArKhaMPriNcE]

Thanks guys

[ShadowSkyHawk]

I need to improve my backhand topspin cuz that's is my main style in table tennis and also a left-hand type. I really need to work on my forehand cuz it suck. The only time i use it is when the ball is out of range with my backhand.

[08nessh]

i am the same as you execpt i always use my forehand

[Seas14]

that was very helpfull the only shot that i cant master!

[GWEGERDS]

no life

[korahaplayas]

jeffs a real athlete lol look at th definition in those legs

[n00bhgv]

TY ! <3

[fifouforever]

Look at Ovtcharov, he uses the wreist more than the forearm... And this guy here has a wrong technique...

[Compantino]

There is no such thing as a wrong technique...

[98nfsmw98]

@Compantino Well, there actually kinda is. People have their own styles of technique but if a person has wrong technique they could get in a bad habit and have trouble with some shots.

[Compantino]

@98nfsmw98 There is no such thing as a wrong technique, as long as is works.

[98nfsmw98]

@Compantino Yeah, thats what I was trying to say - as long as it works. You just said it better :) 

[92benno92]

I wonder if these guys drink powerade ..

[muhkuh6k]

i've played table tennis for 11 years. won my league 4 times won dk master ship twice and number 2 twice, and that is not how you top spin smash with back hand. (either how you return)

[staphinfection]

So make a video explaining it then hot shot.... It's easy to talk trash in youtube comments, but let's see you put it to practice and make your own video....

[SippydinhO10]

i agree

i would never play that shot in a game.

[queeloJBchile1]

she has a great control but the backhand isn't to high because you lose time with this hit

[PingMast]

is this backhand too high?

[seniorsassypants]

Is anyone else creeped out by his super short shorts

[glovnhand]

aye

[dustmicks1]

you are not suppose to snap your wrist

[wordup63]

look at these guys i THINK they know what theyre doing. and MOST likely ALOT better than you do.

[horsefromspace]

.....wow, what a sad, sad world we live in

[blaatieblaatie11]

I don't like his wrist all bend backwards at the start of the swing. This could result in a bended wrist when switching to forehand

[drthmstrbtr]

english coach Jim Clegg teaches a better backhand youtube " Jim Clegg"

[takkyuHero]

Bad Technique. Are you sure that's a European Backhand Loop? I suggest you redo this lesson along with the BH Topsin against Backspin.

[driftkillaz]

there a lot of negative comment on this video shows for their ignorance on playing for example like bartek4443 do we need to flick forehand topspin as same back hand as he says, listen flick is for short balls ok if opponents gives topspin or wether from back hand or forehand then it should be counterhit by your forehand or back hand topspin...

[PuroEuroForums]

I don't blame you for not knowing how to play proper backhand stroke. Saudi Arabia is not very good at table tennis and neither are americans or auistralians. Look at a good backhand player like Timo Boll or Oh Sang Eun and all the European players.

[extremetabletennis16]

hey we cant be good at everything but we will be

[megafide]

lags too much

[Mattheus5443366]

Thank you very much

This video helped me a lot

One more time. Thanks

[Legooo13]

Butterfly Sriver!!!Great rubber.I prefer Butterfly Tenergy 64.Great vid.Keep ;)

[Mitha4]

its the flick ur talking about

[bartek4443]

he may be a good player but his backhand stroke is not his strong side for sure. a backhand stroke should be fast and short and should not go up to your face height by all means. just look at any good backhander with the exception of kreanga, who needs to go high because he is short.

[aStrimbu]

you're talking about the flick

[bartek4443]

do you flick on forehand topsin? it is the same as backhand, you do not flick on a proper backhand topsin, you only flick on short balls over the table or underspin.

[Mitha4]

you sorta flat it out for the forehand flick

i think ..

[azzazzello1978]

what are you talking about? Look at Samsonov, Persson (tall people) or look at 5th game 9-7 point in the now classic Ma Lin - Kenta Matsudaira match from WC. THAT's backhand loops, and do notice where he finished all of them

[wlisjsu]

why don't you show some backhand loop drive rather than just topspin?

[Leveler88]

I reallt want to know how to backhand loop drive. The only thing I can't T^T. If anybody knows the vid site plz tell me.

[rudresh]

back hand topspin involves significant amount of wristwork than arm work to get more spin faster, bcoz most of the time you won't get that amount of time to swing your arm.

[brunozxch2o]

hmm

very nice.

but i prefer to perform some "shorter" moves

i guess the overlifting of your arm probably may get you less faster than you should be =X

PS: sorry for my bad english =X i learn english in china... so... i guess you can imagine how bad it is.

[iazh93]

when its fast ball you should hit more from the side?

[PingMast]

er....how to make sure that the ball will hit straight to the table....i always fail when i backhand topspin....it always hit high in the air

[pingskills]

Try watching the video again and imagine yourself playing the stroke. It is often best when starting just to imagine the start position and the finish position. Then make sure you are getting the angle of the bat correct.

If you have more Table Tennis related questions then try out the Ask the Coach section of our website!

[srajban]

@pingskills before that used to happen to me too.but i figured out when loop near the table you have to loop the ball with a 45 degree angle and you have to hit it before it gets the its highest poing.when playing far from the table you can hit it at the highest point or let it drop a little.right?

[roflcoptoriown]

@PingMast

you probably are angling the paddle the wrong way, or you arent chopping at the ball correctly. if you hit it correctly, the topspin will actually make the ball curve downward, so it will hit the table. just keep going at it and trying to put more spin on it. they take practice, but once you get the hang of it, it becomes second nature

[sprysy]

@PingMast > close the angle of the bat so that it points forward rather than upwards should be about 45 degrees.

[kevinqew]

@PingMast

I recently learned the stoke after watching the ping skills video..

Two things u could the doing wrong

1> U are not making a fast enough motion

2> U are opening the face of the blade too much..

A better way to learn top spin is the waldner person video titled "J-O Waldner / Jörgen Persson training video" on youtube

The same training method of dropping the ball on the floor can be used to learn forehand and backhand topspinboth the ba

[ertjesete]

@PingMast bat angle is important for backhand topspin , watch the effect your opponent gives , when backspin try to make your position a little bit lower , and en d high so you can give the ball the lift it needes. when bhspin on topspin try to move the bat more forward to put more speed in it then effect , couse else you'll overpull the ball and youre opponent has to go search for the ball everytime again and again xD hope this will help you.  greetings from holland ;)

[ropak1]

u shouldnt raise ur bat in the air so much

[Spags1990]

i agree

[crazyeviljoker]

coz u do not realy have so much time in the match

[superkool007]

Do you have lessons on hooks? or may be blocking those crazy sidespin hooks?

[pingskills]

We have just filmed a lesson on getting sidespin on your forehand topspin. We will be uploading it to YouTube in the next few days so keep an eye out for it.

[nitroteddy01]

hmm.... what kind of rubbers are those?

im looking for Butterfly Sriver...

which rubbers do you recommend for speed, spin, and control?

[pingskills]

Since the ban on speed glue I have been using Butterfly Tenergy 05 on both sides. Still you can't go too wrong using Sriver or Mark V. In fact don't worry too much about your rubber. Choose some rubbers from a reputable Table Tennis brand and then focus on improving your technique. If you have any other questions try our Ask the Coach section on our website.

[cptjrkov]

the ban was supposedly due to comas caused by the glue's toxicity

IS THAT TRUE?

[pingskills]

I'm not sure about all of the reasons but the health reason has definitely been mentioned a lot. There is some skepticism about the real health dangers but I think it is better to be safe than sorry!

[nitroteddy01]

Why did the glue get banned? I heard from my friend that some guy accidently spilled some onto his hands and he had to go to hospital or something to get rid of it ...

[pingskills]

I've spilt some speed glue on my hands before and it never caused me a problem. There is a lot of debate about the health risks of using speed glue. I'm actually quite glad about the ban. It used to take a lot of time to glue up the rubber before every match. And now the Table Tennis companies are developing some really good high tension rubbers.

[nitroteddy01]

hmmm.. im glad they that banned speed glue as well. Companies are developing water-based glues and improving on these type of products! fantastic!

[busterbing0]

they rock they great!! (-.-)

[idnumber002]

thanks alot!

[pn8830]

GR8! Thank you very much!

[jcool46]

i use a lot of backhand topspin and this video really helped me!

[hulksmash05]

thnx a lot

[luisedu360]

:)  i was 1rst...:P

[luisedu360]

thanks for upload these awsome videos.....they really helped me to improve my table tennis...u guys rock

[tehdestroyerer]

1st!