Donizetti wrote Era desso il figlio mio specifically to punish the first Lucrezia, Giuseppina Ronzi de Begnis. He didn't want flashy music to end the opera, not sung by a mother who had just poisoned her son by accident. He wrote dignified music for the end. Begnis refused, she wanted coloratura fireworks. So he gave her the most difficult piece he could come up with, with runs, trills, stacatti, low and high notes, thinking she would bail out. But she didn't and sang it brilliantly, we're told.
I enjoyed the documentary, but I thought the Lucrezia Borgia in concert sounded bad. The high E-flat was atrocious. She is a great singer, but that was not her finest moment. Sorry. Flame me now, and I know you will lol.
@htshoward nah i agree. shes in her 60s and its bound to happen more often. it sounded very narrow compared to her other high notes. but when ur a living legend u can kinda do what you want hahaha.
Like Caballe and Fleming, Gruberova has gotten more and more mannered the more the career has advanced. All three divas were fabulous singers originally, though.
@troppofiato I think there's a strong argument that Fleming and Gruberova (and hey, maybe even Caballe, if her Gsätzli is anything to judge by) are still fabulous singers, but I do agree wholeheartedly, mannerisms abound.
The term stands for a singer who can sing dramatic, lyric and bel canto repertoire. She has never sung a dramatic, lyric or spinto role. Or did I miss her Isolde & Turandot, Leonora and Aida or her Desdemona, Tatyana, Mimi or Butterfly? *Snorts*
@Elisabetta611 I don't know, I think it's quite fair to consider Gruberova the prima donna assoluta of the Bayerische Staatsoper, though in a different sense of the term than the one you describe.
Unless you re-invent the word, no. It's like renaming a crystal into a diamond. Which is prettier? That's up to personal taste. But a diamond can never be a crystal & vice versa.
@Elisabetta611 Actually, a diamond *is* a crystal, carbon atoms in a crystalline structure...which nicely highlights one of the issues here: what do these words we're using really mean? Literally, "prima donna assoluta" means absolute first lady. What that means by way of interpretation is something else entirely. Your understanding of the 'term' (and I use the word loosely) you have stated above. I'd be willing to agree with a much wider definition, and I think many opera lovers would too.
@Elisabetta611 well I have to say it wasn't so wise to mention the long breath spans considering how she ended up in a certain performance of Era Desso where she sounded like she had pneumonia..
Enough about her AGE!!! Pavarotti was 70 and he was STILL singing those glorious high C's!!!
I must admit that Eb at the end was quite horrid... More of a scream... But, she has such an agile voice!
Thriller94 4 days ago
That's a respectable E flat for ANYBODY, let alone a 62 year-old woman!
phortion 1 month ago
Ah, those jowls! She reminds me of Angela Lansbury in her 'Murder She Wrote' days. But what a great singer, no argument there.
phortion 1 month ago
that's not Belcanto, that's the end of a big career in a bad way...
edmanetti 1 month ago
There are so many bad notes, and the end of Lucrezia Borgia is really terrific...it's not a high E's , please!
edmanetti 1 month ago
@edmanetti what's wrong with your ears?
With all due respect
thomastmwc 1 month ago
Super!!!
MrSebtian 6 months ago
@1:45 ewa Podles????.. OMG, my favourites artist.. Love you Gruberova!!!!! your Lucia is amazing!
waldotube 6 months ago
LOL, hahaha @ 1:06 It is clear this pianist has been around long enough to know what to say to singers.
angryjalapeno 7 months ago 5
Donizetti wrote Era desso il figlio mio specifically to punish the first Lucrezia, Giuseppina Ronzi de Begnis. He didn't want flashy music to end the opera, not sung by a mother who had just poisoned her son by accident. He wrote dignified music for the end. Begnis refused, she wanted coloratura fireworks. So he gave her the most difficult piece he could come up with, with runs, trills, stacatti, low and high notes, thinking she would bail out. But she didn't and sang it brilliantly, we're told.
tklogan111809 9 months ago
I always love this beautiful voice. Piekny!!!!
urbaniak913 11 months ago 2
She is a legend! =)
classicalgal14 1 year ago 10
Fantastic voice!!! Genius!
trumansf 1 year ago
Good effort here, but having seen Sutherland's rendition in the title role of Lucrezia Borgia, Edita comes well behind in this characterization
16thCenturyArt 1 year ago
I love her art of singing. She is a typical Slovak woman: emotional, true, feminin. I wish our Editka a lot of joy and many nice performances.
SlovakSlaw 1 year ago
Hey, but you have to remember that when she film this she was 62 years old, that's why the final E-flat had that anoying vibrato :/
bosskml 1 year ago
I enjoyed the documentary, but I thought the Lucrezia Borgia in concert sounded bad. The high E-flat was atrocious. She is a great singer, but that was not her finest moment. Sorry. Flame me now, and I know you will lol.
htshoward 1 year ago
@htshoward nah i agree. shes in her 60s and its bound to happen more often. it sounded very narrow compared to her other high notes. but when ur a living legend u can kinda do what you want hahaha.
moghedien13 1 year ago
@moghedien13 lol exactly, and she certainly is! I love her M'odi ah M'odi from the end
htshoward 1 year ago
Increíble el final...
necrogoddess 1 year ago
HOT MESSSSS
CatalinaDM56 1 year ago
Like Caballe and Fleming, Gruberova has gotten more and more mannered the more the career has advanced. All three divas were fabulous singers originally, though.
troppofiato 1 year ago
@troppofiato I think there's a strong argument that Fleming and Gruberova (and hey, maybe even Caballe, if her Gsätzli is anything to judge by) are still fabulous singers, but I do agree wholeheartedly, mannerisms abound.
alithecrab 1 year ago
"mischievous pleasure where other singers are out of breath!" I LOVE THAT LINE! hahaha That's why she's a diva!
ternitamas 1 year ago
Thanks for uploading these two videos!!!
norisv 1 year ago
Technique! Amen.
cleanears 1 year ago
@cleanears I hear that!!
33blueberries 1 year ago
!!!Ella es una Diosa..una Diosa!!!
Toscavsky 1 year ago
Truly and deservedly our primadonna assoluta
kralik2002sg 2 years ago
@kralik2002sg
She is not an Assoluta and never will be.
Elisabetta611 1 year ago
@Elisabetta611 What is your understanding of the term "assoluta"?
alithecrab 1 year ago
@alithecrab
The term stands for a singer who can sing dramatic, lyric and bel canto repertoire. She has never sung a dramatic, lyric or spinto role. Or did I miss her Isolde & Turandot, Leonora and Aida or her Desdemona, Tatyana, Mimi or Butterfly? *Snorts*
Elisabetta611 1 year ago
@Elisabetta611 I see. Could you please offer some examples, singers who you consider to be "prime donne assolute"?
alithecrab 1 year ago
@alithecrab
Callas. Lilli Lehmann. Ponselle.
Elisabetta611 1 year ago
@Elisabetta611 I don't know, I think it's quite fair to consider Gruberova the prima donna assoluta of the Bayerische Staatsoper, though in a different sense of the term than the one you describe.
alithecrab 1 year ago
@alithecrab
Unless you re-invent the word, no. It's like renaming a crystal into a diamond. Which is prettier? That's up to personal taste. But a diamond can never be a crystal & vice versa.
Elisabetta611 1 year ago
@Elisabetta611 Actually, a diamond *is* a crystal, carbon atoms in a crystalline structure...which nicely highlights one of the issues here: what do these words we're using really mean? Literally, "prima donna assoluta" means absolute first lady. What that means by way of interpretation is something else entirely. Your understanding of the 'term' (and I use the word loosely) you have stated above. I'd be willing to agree with a much wider definition, and I think many opera lovers would too.
alithecrab 1 year ago
She ain't exactly humble, is she? But sweet nonetheless.
Elisabetta611 2 years ago
@Elisabetta611 well I have to say it wasn't so wise to mention the long breath spans considering how she ended up in a certain performance of Era Desso where she sounded like she had pneumonia..
eradesso 2 years ago
@eradesso Ma di cosa stai parlando ancora??
DiegoMartinazzoli 1 year ago
@Elisabetta611
yea really wow. "if it doesn't have coloratura at the end i needn't sing it"....o.O
magicmonkichi 2 years ago
Show me another one like she is... There is nobody... Sorry, my dear Netrebko, you have not even 10 % of Gruberova...
Operalover77 2 years ago
agreed!
leoperarm 2 years ago
@Operalover77
I AGREED
NemanjaFan 2 years ago
Mariella Devia. Exactly like her - considering both are over 60 and kicking asses of most young sopranos.
Let alone that silly Netrebko her name shouldn't even be brough close to those of Gruberova and Devia.
eradesso 2 years ago 2
Absolutely right! Both Devia and Gruberova are operatic miracle! Bravi!
Operalover77 2 years ago 3
thank you so much for these two wonderful videos
DiegoMartinazzoli 2 years ago 15