Has anyone figured out how to tell from watching the valve gear (or by the sound or any other clue), at what point they put the Johnson bar as near its middle position as they would for running?
i saw this monster going thru indiana on the NS last year headed back form michigan it was at CP 497 i was on the CSX tracks headed east. looked like the amtrak engine was doing the work then maybe on account the city of chicago did not want the smoke in town
Dang Skip! You followed the 4449 across the country?!? That's dedication! I wish I could do the same. Thanks for all the fantastic videos, not just this one. I must admit I'm partial to the UP 844 although they both looked great on the doubleheaders they ran together.
Yes. This would be the case on an ordinary two-cylinder (double acting) engine. Some exceptions would be for example the Tornado in the UK, which has three cylinders, or the N&W A 1218, which has four.
we all would but no one maintains the railroads like they did back when she was built. Now it would be considered suicide. max speed on most well maintained mainlines now a days is 79. but back when passenger trains had to get people places it was high ball open the throttle and let it all hang out, we got a run to make.
I might have posted it on one of your vids, but have you ever looked up the B&SVRR? Or the Kate Shelly High Bridge? Both are very interesting and unique.
at that speed, she would be gorgeous! nothing like the majesty of a big heavy steam locomotive "in full flight", and you'd pitty the man with the shovel having to keep the beast fed with coal!
What I enjoy most about this video is the view of the side rods and the connecting rods/slide rods...as they all blend together to make a perfectly seemless and impressive sight. Great visual perspective of the locomotive in the frame. Lima SuperPower...you really can't beat these machines!
@65f100352 Well, with the 4449 it's more along the lines of "get out of my way get out of my way get out of my way"
With 300psi in the boiler, super heating, a 26" bore and a booster truck, there isn't any thinking to be done, it's going to pull pretty much any load you put behind it.
@fasionbug Very possible. It sounds to be in notch 1 or 2. They will often use it has a helper just to stretch the water. Pulling hard the 4449 will consume 200 gallons of water per mile. Water is always a problem on these excursions. Refilling from even a good sized fire hose takes nearly an hour.
@fasionbug the 4449 has never "worked a day in her life she is like superman of the passenger industry, the only time you will hear her "work" is when you give it a 20+ car passenger train and lead it up a 2.5 % grade.
I hope Bachmann has lots of HO Daylights in their warehouse because they are going to be selling tons of them after this summer! Great vid Skip, you the man.
There are a bunch of us in Chicago waiting for her to steam through. There's a good chance she'll roll through the famous double diamonds of Rochelle, IL sometime on Saturday afternoon!
All i got yo say is Man oh Man to get to see her fly by would give me goose bumps.5,500 horse power and speed too.I knew she was fast and heavy but didn't know the horse power was that high Wow.Nothing ever comes through Arkansas but tornadoes.Thanks your vids are Great keep them coming,Paul
@trainkids And to think she wasn't even working hard. Had she accelerated under full or almost full throttle like she did in regular service, 60 mph would've come much quicker.
i think i can i think i can i think can i can love the train
collierjohn33 1 month ago
Hahaha. And I thought my Toyota 4runner was slow to 60 @ 11.5 seconds. lol
Thecarguy1254 2 months ago
take that P42 off she doesnt need help
TheSouthern4501 2 months ago
@TheSouthern4501 that is for extra braking.
3985gtasa 2 months ago
I love listening to a diesel working through the hills at night, but a steam train is just so ....organic. You can _feel_ it working for speed.
So all that steam at the station _was_ showy BS. When the going gets serious, as little fuss as possible. :D
IAMOldNick 2 months ago
How can this be a big deal with a diesel loco pushing him?
MrFlemball 3 months ago
@MrFlemball The Amtrak locomotive was probably in "notch 3" to just generate electricity for the cars but nothing to the traction motors.
I think the steam locomotive could have gotten up to speed a lot quicker but maybe the engineer was trying to be easy on it.
danwat1234 3 months ago
One of the finest pacing videos I've seen on the 4449! Thanks!
Organgrinder1010 4 months ago
How did he do that, record the train while driving the car, how?
SuperMario6419 6 months ago
She breaths,she lives, she's beautiful..
teamfab 7 months ago
@teamfab she can't only fuck LOL
Beun007 4 months ago
@Beun007 Yes..if only in a perfect world lolol...
teamfab 4 months ago
I just want to tell you that SP 4449 was not the polar express. Pere Marqiete # 1225 was. Very Nice video!
skybluedragonator 9 months ago
@skybluedragonator I already knew that.
SuperMario6419 6 months ago
@SuperMario6419 well i wasnt telling you.
skybluedragonator 6 months ago
Great video.
newrevlogsplitter 10 months ago
kill yourself
TheSheepJEEP 1 year ago
BTW, the SLOW start is NOT due to the power of the engine. It's entirely due to how much torque the drive wheels can deliver to the road.
IF the engineer were to really open it up at start...
The wheels would melt/weld into the track.
D-E has a faster acceleration because the engineer can take the traction wheels closer to their design limit.... THAT is all.
staydput 1 year ago
Didn't sound like it was working too hard...I wonder how much the "helper" was helping.
canders37 1 year ago
saw the freedom train at the L A fairgrounds in 76 and my father chaced it around in the middle of the night through LA
chefbard 1 year ago
Beautiful pacing shots again, Skip! :) Tom
WA1LBK 1 year ago
What can I say? Thanks Skip for posting!!!!!
1339LARS 1 year ago
that was cool
bluejay148 1 year ago
What's that metallic dragging sound at 4:25? I din't here that when they got to Michigan
Trackagerights 1 year ago
@Trackagerights its probably the main rods because their moving so rapidly.
The3751FAN 10 months ago
Meh. I'd rather see the UP 844 or UP 3985.
MovieModerator 1 year ago
Beautiful sound coverage.
minorot 1 year ago
The 4449 wasn't in the Polar Express. That was Pere Marquette 1225.
fafnir242 1 year ago
Has anyone figured out how to tell from watching the valve gear (or by the sound or any other clue), at what point they put the Johnson bar as near its middle position as they would for running?
b43xoit 1 year ago
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DanielVolker 1 year ago
Great title, and great job. Thank you.
b43xoit 1 year ago
They better damn well be leavin' that diesel in neutral.
LGTheOneFreeMan 1 year ago
I like to say thank you for a period of yesteryear of beauty,and speed of this Train.
I saw it come through Crockett, California years ago. It was on a cross country
tour. I think it is located in Sacramento at the train museum. Nothing like the sound
and smell of a high speed locomotive and the wind in your face. Love that whistle.
Psyche777able 1 year ago
@edj66 Doesn't burn coal, Burns oil, Never was a coal burner.
ford9572 1 year ago
parezco niño pero esto es bonito yo lo disfruto
1960llanero 1 year ago
i saw this monster going thru indiana on the NS last year headed back form michigan it was at CP 497 i was on the CSX tracks headed east. looked like the amtrak engine was doing the work then maybe on account the city of chicago did not want the smoke in town
booger313 1 year ago
Beware of the tree-huggers!
lovingholidays 1 year ago
Dang Skip! You followed the 4449 across the country?!? That's dedication! I wish I could do the same. Thanks for all the fantastic videos, not just this one. I must admit I'm partial to the UP 844 although they both looked great on the doubleheaders they ran together.
itnbfzi 1 year ago
how many coaches/wagons?? does it pull and wots the weight of the train? thanks
bennybore08 1 year ago
is it 4 chuffs a revolution?
bartybum 2 years ago
Yes. This would be the case on an ordinary two-cylinder (double acting) engine. Some exceptions would be for example the Tornado in the UK, which has three cylinders, or the N&W A 1218, which has four.
b43xoit 1 year ago
I love acceleration pacing vids Great catch! *****
sgtredbluered 2 years ago
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DanielVolker 2 years ago
i saw her go around 70, on july 18, 2009
trainz675 2 years ago
What is it's top rated speed?
RetSquid 2 years ago
@RetSquid 110mph
trainman93 2 years ago
@trainman93
HOLY CRAP!!!!
I would LOVE to see that!!!
RetSquid 2 years ago
we all would but no one maintains the railroads like they did back when she was built. Now it would be considered suicide. max speed on most well maintained mainlines now a days is 79. but back when passenger trains had to get people places it was high ball open the throttle and let it all hang out, we got a run to make.
trainman93 2 years ago
@trainman93
I might have posted it on one of your vids, but have you ever looked up the B&SVRR? Or the Kate Shelly High Bridge? Both are very interesting and unique.
RetSquid 2 years ago
at that speed, she would be gorgeous! nothing like the majesty of a big heavy steam locomotive "in full flight", and you'd pitty the man with the shovel having to keep the beast fed with coal!
Xantec 2 years ago
@Xantec Definitely mechanically stoked surely?
edj66 1 year ago
love it!
num1ksfan 2 years ago
cool butwhat is the "jet turbine" sound in the background? it fades on and off
robby2448 2 years ago
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DanielVolker 2 years ago
thanks
robby2448 2 years ago
What I enjoy most about this video is the view of the side rods and the connecting rods/slide rods...as they all blend together to make a perfectly seemless and impressive sight. Great visual perspective of the locomotive in the frame. Lima SuperPower...you really can't beat these machines!
johndeeredj 2 years ago
"I think I can, I think I can, I think I can, I think I can,........" What a great sound!!!! Love this video!!!!
65f100352 2 years ago
@65f100352 Well, with the 4449 it's more along the lines of "get out of my way get out of my way get out of my way"
With 300psi in the boiler, super heating, a 26" bore and a booster truck, there isn't any thinking to be done, it's going to pull pretty much any load you put behind it.
Polybun 2 years ago
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DanielVolker 2 years ago
Are you sure that the P42 behind it isn't giving it a hand? Seems like the 4449 isn't really working hard.
fasionbug 2 years ago
@fasionbug Very possible. It sounds to be in notch 1 or 2. They will often use it has a helper just to stretch the water. Pulling hard the 4449 will consume 200 gallons of water per mile. Water is always a problem on these excursions. Refilling from even a good sized fire hose takes nearly an hour.
Polybun 2 years ago
@fasionbug the 4449 has never "worked a day in her life she is like superman of the passenger industry, the only time you will hear her "work" is when you give it a 20+ car passenger train and lead it up a 2.5 % grade.
trainman93 2 years ago
Great pacing footage!!! I have ridden behind this engine at track speed of 79 miles per hour on a number of previous trips.
4fff 2 years ago
Awesome video.
Lightwolf333 2 years ago
You have one of the best steam loco sites I have ever come across.
mabhekaphansi 2 years ago
As always, a great video.
mabhekaphansi 2 years ago
Great Pace Video. How did you keep it so steady?
They told me that the engine uses about 100-150 gallons of water and 17 gallons of fuel oil per MILE!
radiolarion 2 years ago
Why don't we have trains like that crossing Holland GODDAMNIT. This is much more fun to travel then those damn stinking diesel engines
LeandroMuntendam 2 years ago
Not bad acceleration, and the didn't even appear to be working too hard. Very nice pacing video, 5/5.
ThatYankeeKid 2 years ago
I hope Bachmann has lots of HO Daylights in their warehouse because they are going to be selling tons of them after this summer! Great vid Skip, you the man.
StratCatGenius 2 years ago 2
And Kato's N version as well lol
arrowguy173 2 years ago
I've got one and it is SWEET ; )
mmjurczak 2 years ago
Excellent Pace Video!
engineer6325 2 years ago
Thanks Skip - these are terrific videos. Wish I were there.
jamrozekj 2 years ago
There are a bunch of us in Chicago waiting for her to steam through. There's a good chance she'll roll through the famous double diamonds of Rochelle, IL sometime on Saturday afternoon!
AirlinerJockey 2 years ago
Good chance...unless they build a flyover at Rochelle by tomorrow, it's going to do just that.
UPTRAIN 2 years ago
great video what mount do you have for your camera?
knight040 2 years ago
All i got yo say is Man oh Man to get to see her fly by would give me goose bumps.5,500 horse power and speed too.I knew she was fast and heavy but didn't know the horse power was that high Wow.Nothing ever comes through Arkansas but tornadoes.Thanks your vids are Great keep them coming,Paul
arkansastrash320 2 years ago
Glad you liked them, I think that there is more mainline steam action this summer than there has been since 1959
SkipW 2 years ago
@arkansastrash320 the 844 made a trip to little rock and Fort Smith this year.
traindude70 1 year ago
@traindude70 Yeah i know been just as well if it had been in canada or mexico fars me getting to see anything.Thanks for the information!
arkansastrash320 1 year ago
Again awesome Video Skip!
Daichan1893 2 years ago
nice video
trainlover85 2 years ago
She sure can get moving fast!
trainkids 2 years ago
@trainkids And to think she wasn't even working hard. Had she accelerated under full or almost full throttle like she did in regular service, 60 mph would've come much quicker.
ThatYankeeKid 1 year ago
awesome video
trainboy32 2 years ago 3
Awesome Job Skip!
ReagonProductions 2 years ago 2