They bought some old Detroit manufacturing facilities to mass produce these boxes. So, there is no scam. The premise is simple you buy the refrigerator sized box stick it behind your house and it supplies your house with all the needed electricity using natural gas as it's fuel. The questions are how much gas will it use? How long will it last? How much will it cost? How long before it pays for itself in actual savings? Excellent invention however only time will tell if it's a winner or not!
im not really understanding much of what this bloom box is all about... so basicaly, it makes energy? but what kind? electricity? with what? oxygen? i heard walt mart uses it as well as Fed EX but it cost 700 000$ and thats not affordable for an average person... can someone explain all of this to me? im thinking of doing my high school grad. project on something like this...
@lovlyanime The input is any source that contains hydrocarbons or their derivatives (methane gas, ethanol etc...) and oxygen. Then they are converted by the fuel cell into carbon dioxide, water and electrical energy. Its basically a huge battery that never needs to be recharged as long as you keep feeding hydrocarbons in it or that nothing breaks in it.
Solar modules are only at max 14% efficient, last 20 yrs, cost $20000, then you get your money back in 20yrs? WTF, I took a class on solar, I have the newest book on solar , I know the truth !!
@v44forme Doesnt mean that the technology wont pick up in terms of cost and efficiency. 10 years ago you would have said I could buy 1 terabytes of storage for less than 100 $ and I would have laughed at your ass.
This will work great N a car. I think a 'small' Bloom box N a electric car would get the car 4 times the mileage then the batteries currently used. I hope that the Bloom Box works with solar as well as gases that don't harm the environment. Also It would B great if home owners can by The Bloom Box independent of large energy company's,, just as they can with solar. If they can get the Bloom Box down 2 lets say $2-3000.00 4a Home & maybe $500.00 4a car,, it would help the us all. Super Cool Stuff
i saw about this in the TV and i wasn't satisfied about the research they did. They said the technology allows you to use energy "from the air" which is not true. This is actually a fuel cell which also needs fuel, like natural gas or biogas.
The difference between a combustion engine and this technology is, that the energy thats in the gas, directly goes to electricity (in engines: chemical-thermical-mechanical-electric energy), so you dont have so many losses. but in fact a problem is, that ..
@mrmcphe ... the bloom box technology only works in temperatures about a few hundred degrees, and i don't know if the energy for warming up is calculated into the efficiency of this fuel cell, because they say they have about 50% effiecency. if its not calculated into it, theres no real improvement to a gas engine with the same fuel, and both technologys would have about 30-35% effieciency- biogas production or natural gas transport not included.
Unless the boombox has living organisms in it that do photosynthesis, the bloombox cannot be a SOURCE for energy. Did the creators of the bloombox confirm that they are not violating the Second Law of Thermodynamics?
I do not assume they did not. But, they cannot generate useful work without some increase of entropy outside the system (taking the system to be the bloombox).
Hence, if the bloombox does NOT increase entropy outside the system, then it cannot create useful work.
@mphello hey science is ever changing that idea could be out the window. i believe what we know as physics is just the scrape of what is actually known
it sounded great like 10 minutes ago when i found out about bloom box, but when I learned that colin powel - mass murderer and arnold shwarcenegger - nazi are involved in it I have my doubts. And still no breaking news about Stanley Mayers water powered car? oh yea I almost forgot - he got killed.
All the big Co. are useing it for 9 months now ,,So it works, Why the wait? for regular people? They have to figure a way to charge us for it so we have a never ending bill to pay like everything else. Ebay and google ARE powering there whole place right now.Where are these two losers from? cant you two remember anything on this?
Ok guys let's talk about real usefullness here. 1) COST - so the spokeman/scientist(?) marches out and says "oh it's made from sand!" we say hey that's great. Sand is cheap. But wait you have to pay $700,000 for fuels cell (or is it a generator?). Well why so expensive. Oh yeah we want to make every person in this company rich. not so noble (Nobel?) eh?
Thats such an unrealistic goal to say 5-10 years from now. Thats not a very long time. It should take them that long just to set up the mass manufacturing. Does this guy not know how many homes are in America?
put these things in cars..."natural gas tanks" + bloom energy + electric engine equals INDEPENDENCE FROM EXTERNAL POLITICALLY UNSTABLE REGIONS OF THE WORLD...should of been the first thing this company implemented.....the natural gas that goes to your home can become a gas station for your car....
If they can really make these things cheap in the next 30 years, then we can just stick them into every device that needs power. A PC PSU would just be a fuel cell, I imagine you could stick them into cars as well.
Honestly, I don't understand how you put oxygen and natural gas in, and get electricity out without some sort of expended fuel emission. What is the 'waste product'?
@Aargh28 there is emission !, you just can't destroy "matter" like that. (that only possible in nuclear fission,fusion....) so there is emission. In his interview he said that , he reversed process of machine which would provide oxygen to martian atmosphere by taking in carbon-dioxide. therefore i think it would take in oxygen and give out carbon-dioxide to earth atmosphere.
@BlackDogSociety Biofuels are expensive, especially the ones suitable in fuel cells. I'm afraid there's no freebie, and I highly doubt this is a break through.
The reason why it's making noise, I think, is that because in California, the cost of hydro has got so expensive after deregulation, through oligopolies and other gouging scams the companies pull. These expensive prices make fossil fuels cheaper in terms of Joules per dollar. So much so, that a Bloom Box can compete.
@a1mint --- visit verdereformation com for a lower cost method of biomass reformation. Syngas can be easily produce large amounts of H2 and can be reformed into a suitable fuel for these cells. The syngas itself may even work on it's own without processing. But I don't know that for sure...
@BlackDogSociety I've already pointed out how that website quotes idiocy like "water as a fuel". It's just too painful to the brain to enter another quack site....
@BlackDogSociety I find it rather embarrassing to see a Republican like Arnold Swarzenegger and Colin Powell tout about it. It's their policies that caused electricity prices to sky rocket in the first place. The whole thing is a joke it seems.
Cost is not the reason Google and other large corporations are not buying more of these boxes.
Rather, the Bloom Boxes are an unproven technology, and it would be too much of a risk to invest enough to power all of their facilities, especially in the event of a catastrophe.
They aren't too expensive in general, they're simply too expensive to risk such a large investment.
An even better idea would be to ask any politician who build these ''REAL FUSION'' REACTORS ! it would solve any energy problem...LOL...sadly enough it is no joke...btw with clear sky and a good telescope it can be seen anytime.
Why not ask this guy ! This runs on pure FREE energy...I suppose we have to review Einstein's Theory or should I better say his wife's theory...sorry just a personal joke...LOL
@thevoice4you of course it isn't free only renewable energies can be considered free because they use natural resources like water, sunlight, wind, even nuclear, not of fossil fuels its old dead tech they tryin to push and resell
windmill%solarpanel%C02! When we discuss new technologies, howsabout we discuss the new technology.
What'd they make their catalyst out of? What is the proton exchange membrane made of?
Made of sand? Silica? Are they using somesort of aerogel in there?
The most notable technical bit I've heard about this is that it somehow requires electricity to operate- meaning their catalyst or membrane is something new.
I am kinda wondering if this would run on hemp seeds oil/hemp seed ethanol. Also you mention this is even better then solar. that is not that big of a deal, solar efficiency is not to good when you compare to wind turbines. I believe that solar can only get up to 20% so far. I may be wrong.
Going back to the last argument. To get government backing don't they need backing by other investers (i.e. Colin Powell) to first create the product in order to sell it. No product to sell equals no government backing. I see this as government defending new technology. Michaeltheman888 if you are worried about other people who have the same tech then why aren't they selling it to get the discount for their buyers? Could it be that they have no buyers because they have no product?
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you guys are full of s**t. You dont even mention the name of the "brain" behind this invention....rhetoric racist bastards. What u talk is just nonsense when you don't value or respect the minds that at-least made u make this video.
@usaamerica1 Great idea, true! infact its the most innovative. But, i don't think we will be disconnected from the wire/grid. we will still be slaves of the main grid, while the power companies buy themselves tons of boxes, produce electricity at the cost of almost nothing, and charge us with the same price /Kwh. I have not known the power companies to be generous.
Enjoyed your conversation. Please check out this rare and candid Fresh Dialogues interview with Bloom Energy's CEO while they were in stealth mode. KR invites Fresh Dialogues into the Bloom HQ and answers the questions: is bloom's solution really non-polluting? How is the Bloom Box a bridge to the future and how can it be the gas station of tomorrow?
Check out the Fresh DIalogues channel for many more green interviews: Tom Friedman, Paul Krugman, Martin Sheen and many more.
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we dont need the government to help out.. they shouldnt fuck with the free market those socialist fucks. this shit may not be the best product out there or could be dangerous and they want to waste tax payer money on it. that guy probly voted for obama. that brain washed ass.
just another slap in the face by your local friendly neighborhood michaelman
@michaeltheman8888 u idiot he used money from private corporations, shit head this is the kind of people that we need now, inventors. dont hate understand first.
@usaamerica1 20% tax incentive from california is government invovlement 30% tax incentive from the federal government is also. its a tax credit which is another why of saying stealing from the people and placing one product over another.
This would explain Y eXXon is buying up as many rights to natural gas as they can get. Coal will be forced to gassify. How cansolar power one of these? Have you seen the GEET engines that are converted normal engines that use a fraction of the fossil fuels to function yet produce at phemenominal rates bc they produce some sort of plazma in the process that also produces electricity? I havent tinlkered with and am reluctant to buy solar for fear they will have abreakthrough in tech in soon.
Quick tip: Your vids are likely to get a lot more views if you space them out @ 1 to 2 a day, even if they have to be a bit longer and cover more material per vid.
They bought some old Detroit manufacturing facilities to mass produce these boxes. So, there is no scam. The premise is simple you buy the refrigerator sized box stick it behind your house and it supplies your house with all the needed electricity using natural gas as it's fuel. The questions are how much gas will it use? How long will it last? How much will it cost? How long before it pays for itself in actual savings? Excellent invention however only time will tell if it's a winner or not!
TheCOMMONSENSEMEDIA 6 months ago
im not really understanding much of what this bloom box is all about... so basicaly, it makes energy? but what kind? electricity? with what? oxygen? i heard walt mart uses it as well as Fed EX but it cost 700 000$ and thats not affordable for an average person... can someone explain all of this to me? im thinking of doing my high school grad. project on something like this...
lovlyanime 6 months ago
@lovlyanime The input is any source that contains hydrocarbons or their derivatives (methane gas, ethanol etc...) and oxygen. Then they are converted by the fuel cell into carbon dioxide, water and electrical energy. Its basically a huge battery that never needs to be recharged as long as you keep feeding hydrocarbons in it or that nothing breaks in it.
quantumdude 2 months ago
Go Bloombox,
God Bless, all people must demand this now !!!
v44forme1 7 months ago
Solar modules are only at max 14% efficient, last 20 yrs, cost $20000, then you get your money back in 20yrs? WTF, I took a class on solar, I have the newest book on solar , I know the truth !!
v44forme1 7 months ago
@v44forme Doesnt mean that the technology wont pick up in terms of cost and efficiency. 10 years ago you would have said I could buy 1 terabytes of storage for less than 100 $ and I would have laughed at your ass.
quantumdude 2 months ago
has anyone heard of "Blue Gen"? I can't find it on youtube
Majorjoy6565 8 months ago
blume energy... might want to look at the bi product of the chemicals used. not so green at all.
b101aa2 9 months ago
This will work great N a car. I think a 'small' Bloom box N a electric car would get the car 4 times the mileage then the batteries currently used. I hope that the Bloom Box works with solar as well as gases that don't harm the environment. Also It would B great if home owners can by The Bloom Box independent of large energy company's,, just as they can with solar. If they can get the Bloom Box down 2 lets say $2-3000.00 4a Home & maybe $500.00 4a car,, it would help the us all. Super Cool Stuff
Majorjoy6565 10 months ago
i saw about this in the TV and i wasn't satisfied about the research they did. They said the technology allows you to use energy "from the air" which is not true. This is actually a fuel cell which also needs fuel, like natural gas or biogas.
The difference between a combustion engine and this technology is, that the energy thats in the gas, directly goes to electricity (in engines: chemical-thermical-mechanical-electric energy), so you dont have so many losses. but in fact a problem is, that ..
mrmcphe 11 months ago
@mrmcphe ... the bloom box technology only works in temperatures about a few hundred degrees, and i don't know if the energy for warming up is calculated into the efficiency of this fuel cell, because they say they have about 50% effiecency. if its not calculated into it, theres no real improvement to a gas engine with the same fuel, and both technologys would have about 30-35% effieciency- biogas production or natural gas transport not included.
mrmcphe 11 months ago
Unless the boombox has living organisms in it that do photosynthesis, the bloombox cannot be a SOURCE for energy. Did the creators of the bloombox confirm that they are not violating the Second Law of Thermodynamics?
I do not assume they did not. But, they cannot generate useful work without some increase of entropy outside the system (taking the system to be the bloombox).
Hence, if the bloombox does NOT increase entropy outside the system, then it cannot create useful work.
mphello 1 year ago
@mphello hey science is ever changing that idea could be out the window. i believe what we know as physics is just the scrape of what is actually known
fatqwert200 1 year ago
it sounded great like 10 minutes ago when i found out about bloom box, but when I learned that colin powel - mass murderer and arnold shwarcenegger - nazi are involved in it I have my doubts. And still no breaking news about Stanley Mayers water powered car? oh yea I almost forgot - he got killed.
ssslawek 1 year ago
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does this mean arab oil producing companies will go out of business?
jxcess3891 1 year ago
... Its would works very well on Titan... send robots there with infinite amount of energy and build a retreat post for Humans...
fredroul 1 year ago
All the big Co. are useing it for 9 months now ,,So it works, Why the wait? for regular people? They have to figure a way to charge us for it so we have a never ending bill to pay like everything else. Ebay and google ARE powering there whole place right now.Where are these two losers from? cant you two remember anything on this?
sidebarr7 1 year ago 2
Ok guys let's talk about real usefullness here. 1) COST - so the spokeman/scientist(?) marches out and says "oh it's made from sand!" we say hey that's great. Sand is cheap. But wait you have to pay $700,000 for fuels cell (or is it a generator?). Well why so expensive. Oh yeah we want to make every person in this company rich. not so noble (Nobel?) eh?
SunWindRain 1 year ago
Thats such an unrealistic goal to say 5-10 years from now. Thats not a very long time. It should take them that long just to set up the mass manufacturing. Does this guy not know how many homes are in America?
underleft 1 year ago
@dylantuzyk It works on solid oxides, eg. solid gases. Which probably means hydrogen fuel.
IndependentBlackSoul 1 year ago
Good thing they talk about green energy, so people know how to improve their lifestyle.
Airborn14 1 year ago
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put these things in cars..."natural gas tanks" + bloom energy + electric engine equals INDEPENDENCE FROM EXTERNAL POLITICALLY UNSTABLE REGIONS OF THE WORLD...should of been the first thing this company implemented.....the natural gas that goes to your home can become a gas station for your car....
odinfury 1 year ago
If they can really make these things cheap in the next 30 years, then we can just stick them into every device that needs power. A PC PSU would just be a fuel cell, I imagine you could stick them into cars as well.
ymirfrostgiant 1 year ago
Smells like a scam
stew6302 1 year ago
@stew6302 That's what I thought too, but it works.
Charles2337 1 year ago
@stew6302 Bloom Enery has (reportedly) invested over 400 million in this. I highly doubt it's a scam
IndependentBlackSoul 1 year ago
the Bloombox makes peak oil history !
manwithbreasts 1 year ago
that's great, i would love to see it in every home
timeXway 1 year ago
Honestly, I don't understand how you put oxygen and natural gas in, and get electricity out without some sort of expended fuel emission. What is the 'waste product'?
Aargh28 2 years ago
@Aargh28 there is emission !, you just can't destroy "matter" like that. (that only possible in nuclear fission,fusion....) so there is emission. In his interview he said that , he reversed process of machine which would provide oxygen to martian atmosphere by taking in carbon-dioxide. therefore i think it would take in oxygen and give out carbon-dioxide to earth atmosphere.
werty8086 1 year ago
@Aargh28
Heat and CO2.
Charles2337 1 year ago
Runs on fossil fuels.... not free.
This tech is grossly overrated.
a1mint 2 years ago
@a1mint --- Actually I hear it will run on many different renewable energy sources like biofuels too...
BlackDogSociety 2 years ago
@BlackDogSociety Biofuels are expensive, especially the ones suitable in fuel cells. I'm afraid there's no freebie, and I highly doubt this is a break through.
The reason why it's making noise, I think, is that because in California, the cost of hydro has got so expensive after deregulation, through oligopolies and other gouging scams the companies pull. These expensive prices make fossil fuels cheaper in terms of Joules per dollar. So much so, that a Bloom Box can compete.
a1mint 2 years ago 2
@a1mint --- visit verdereformation com for a lower cost method of biomass reformation. Syngas can be easily produce large amounts of H2 and can be reformed into a suitable fuel for these cells. The syngas itself may even work on it's own without processing. But I don't know that for sure...
BlackDogSociety 2 years ago
@BlackDogSociety I've already pointed out how that website quotes idiocy like "water as a fuel". It's just too painful to the brain to enter another quack site....
a1mint 2 years ago
@BlackDogSociety I find it rather embarrassing to see a Republican like Arnold Swarzenegger and Colin Powell tout about it. It's their policies that caused electricity prices to sky rocket in the first place. The whole thing is a joke it seems.
a1mint 2 years ago
Im a Mac ,.. and Im a mac... erm...
TheKrackfox 2 years ago
Cost is not the reason Google and other large corporations are not buying more of these boxes.
Rather, the Bloom Boxes are an unproven technology, and it would be too much of a risk to invest enough to power all of their facilities, especially in the event of a catastrophe.
They aren't too expensive in general, they're simply too expensive to risk such a large investment.
FireStorm4056 2 years ago 3
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hardhitter0421 2 years ago
they had this technology for a long time now,,, Dont be fooled..
Oil is still very profitable for the next 10 years..
vdubs4life1964 2 years ago
...look on google for ''thelivingmoon Images Mike''
thevoice4you 2 years ago
can' post links here please look up...You Tube
''The NST over unity Motor-Generator''
An even better idea would be to ask any politician who build these ''REAL FUSION'' REACTORS ! it would solve any energy problem...LOL...sadly enough it is no joke...btw with clear sky and a good telescope it can be seen anytime.
thevoice4you 2 years ago
Hi, greets from Spain,
Why not ask this guy ! This runs on pure FREE energy...I suppose we have to review Einstein's Theory or should I better say his wife's theory...sorry just a personal joke...LOL
thevoice4you 2 years ago
@thevoice4you of course it isn't free only renewable energies can be considered free because they use natural resources like water, sunlight, wind, even nuclear, not of fossil fuels its old dead tech they tryin to push and resell
billybobblecob 2 years ago
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thevoice4you 2 years ago
windmill%solarpanel%C02! When we discuss new technologies, howsabout we discuss the new technology.
What'd they make their catalyst out of? What is the proton exchange membrane made of?
Made of sand? Silica? Are they using somesort of aerogel in there?
The most notable technical bit I've heard about this is that it somehow requires electricity to operate- meaning their catalyst or membrane is something new.
unsforlife 2 years ago
I am kinda wondering if this would run on hemp seeds oil/hemp seed ethanol. Also you mention this is even better then solar. that is not that big of a deal, solar efficiency is not to good when you compare to wind turbines. I believe that solar can only get up to 20% so far. I may be wrong.
MWCstream 2 years ago
Going back to the last argument. To get government backing don't they need backing by other investers (i.e. Colin Powell) to first create the product in order to sell it. No product to sell equals no government backing. I see this as government defending new technology. Michaeltheman888 if you are worried about other people who have the same tech then why aren't they selling it to get the discount for their buyers? Could it be that they have no buyers because they have no product?
johnnycommon 2 years ago
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you guys are full of s**t. You dont even mention the name of the "brain" behind this invention....rhetoric racist bastards. What u talk is just nonsense when you don't value or respect the minds that at-least made u make this video.
nirup 2 years ago
its like anything new it start very expensive but when people start buying more and more the price will come down.
usaamerica1 2 years ago 4
i think this is good, finally someone came out with a good idea, this will disconect us from the wire.
usaamerica1 2 years ago 11
@usaamerica1 no it wont well still have to pay for it they will just replace the power stations,and slap a meter on it
ratrat29 1 year ago
@usaamerica1 Great idea, true! infact its the most innovative. But, i don't think we will be disconnected from the wire/grid. we will still be slaves of the main grid, while the power companies buy themselves tons of boxes, produce electricity at the cost of almost nothing, and charge us with the same price /Kwh. I have not known the power companies to be generous.
MzeeAnonmz 10 months ago
Enjoyed your conversation. Please check out this rare and candid Fresh Dialogues interview with Bloom Energy's CEO while they were in stealth mode. KR invites Fresh Dialogues into the Bloom HQ and answers the questions: is bloom's solution really non-polluting? How is the Bloom Box a bridge to the future and how can it be the gas station of tomorrow?
Check out the Fresh DIalogues channel for many more green interviews: Tom Friedman, Paul Krugman, Martin Sheen and many more.
FreshDialogues 2 years ago
nice
xboondocksx 2 years ago 2
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we dont need the government to help out.. they shouldnt fuck with the free market those socialist fucks. this shit may not be the best product out there or could be dangerous and they want to waste tax payer money on it. that guy probly voted for obama. that brain washed ass.
just another slap in the face by your local friendly neighborhood michaelman
michaeltheman8888 2 years ago
@michaeltheman8888 u idiot he used money from private corporations, shit head this is the kind of people that we need now, inventors. dont hate understand first.
usaamerica1 2 years ago 2
@usaamerica1 20% tax incentive from california is government invovlement 30% tax incentive from the federal government is also. its a tax credit which is another why of saying stealing from the people and placing one product over another.
michaeltheman8888 2 years ago
Looks like I'll have to check it out. Im all for the Bloom Box!!!!
gman6501 2 years ago 10
This would explain Y eXXon is buying up as many rights to natural gas as they can get. Coal will be forced to gassify. How cansolar power one of these? Have you seen the GEET engines that are converted normal engines that use a fraction of the fossil fuels to function yet produce at phemenominal rates bc they produce some sort of plazma in the process that also produces electricity? I havent tinlkered with and am reluctant to buy solar for fear they will have abreakthrough in tech in soon.
cdltpx 2 years ago 5
Quick tip: Your vids are likely to get a lot more views if you space them out @ 1 to 2 a day, even if they have to be a bit longer and cover more material per vid.
bamboo4tameshigiri 2 years ago