They need to shoot every damn leader of the groups leading others to kill these innocent people. It's sad this has been happening generation after generation and no one cares to even help end the crimes around these countries. They would be with food if the killers left these people alone to grow food, instead they want to kill them before they can harvest any type of help, Africa can be the richest countries if they got rid of all the killers and leaders to these groups!
If a white person was in charge this wouldn't have happened, theses Sudanese apes know only to kill each other and massacre villagers, though theyre better with the latter.
@bladerunner33101, world war 1, and world war 11...Beside a white woman whore call emma was the one misleading this empty man here...Do you realize that the Africa Sudan war started during British rule and do you realize that Sudan was not at war before arabs and whites came to it...I hate your kind.
@LibertyDownUnder What u're saying is true, but not in every case. Some of the african nations have much resources and they would be able to help themselves, but not sudan. They have a civil war going on for years and they have absolutely nothing. If western countries give them no aid these people starve to death like they did last summer. If you have access to small organizations where u really know the person who goes to africa u should give them aid.U should be careful with words and fuck cnn
@roootchopf, painting Sudan is a backward hell hole, that is hopeless without aid will not get you anywhere.
If you read Dambisa Moyo's material, you'll see how aid encourages dictators to hold down their people in a state of desperation and DISCOURAGES prosperity.
Even this video mentioned that getting flight permits out of Hartom is one of the most difficult issues here.
@LibertyDownUnder I'm not disagreeing with u. I'm just saying that there's different ways to help people and u're definitely right considering big organizations. But the small one's who only have a small amount of projects are worth to support cause they know how to support without discouraging the people and because of their size the dictators won't recognize them. Considering Sudan such organizations may don't exist there because of the current situation. But doing nothing is no solution.
@roootchopf, this is my disagreement here. I think that "doing nothing" is the solution.
Western governments did "nothing" to help China out of its poverty 40 years ago, and look at them now. They had African style starvation back then. 80 million (!) died until finally the Government decided that central control doesn't work.
@LibertyDownUnder Trade with western countries and massive western corporate investment in China has been a huge source for their prosperity. Nonetheless around 400 million people in China still live in conditions of poverty similar to Sub-Saharan Africa.
@LibertyDownUnder You cant compare china to sudan. china has the biggest population in the world and before 18th century china was the most developed country in the world.
@roootchopf, China & Sudan were pretty much on par until 1977.
I think it's a fair comparison. It shows how quickly you can turn things around. China pretty much eradicated staravtion in less than 2 years once they freed up the economy and opened up trade relations with the world.
@LibertyDownUnder False. You can't compare china to any country in the world. No other country has this economic potential because of its population, the size of it and its history. It didn't took them 2 years to eradicate starvation, it took much longer, because when they started to open china they opened it just for specific regions. Until now they just created more of these free market islands in the communist society. But if you don't live in a region like that you are fucked.
@roootchopf, so having more people makes it easier to feed them all?
Africa has a lot of fertile agricultural land, Sudan has plenty of water & natural resources too. All that's needed is a stable Government and to get rid of aid & its influence.
Zimbabwe turned from having a massive export market, to a starving nation in no time once Mugabe took over the farms. The complete opposite can happen in any country in Africa, and they can get out of poverty.
@LibertyDownUnder More people means more cheap work. Thats why big cooperation invested in China. Because of the history of china which is thousands of years old, stability in the government was there although china is a multiethnic country. In Sudan you have different tribes which were historicaly independent from each other. This is often the case in africa. The tribes were forced to live in a country together because of western imperialism. Stability won't come as easy as it came in china.
@roootchopf Aid is good when there is an absolute EXTREME situation of starvation. Otherwise i agree with you as long as the global economic system is capitalistic. But this system won't last forever because of the finite resources and the difference between wealth and poverty.
@roootchopf, to suggest that there's a shortage of cheap workers in Sudan is a big call.
I don't buy it.
Botswana, Angola and Rwanda are slowing getting rid of the aid model and are growing rapidly thanks to foreign investment. African countries who want to stop starving to death can do so. They simply have to privatise the land, respect property rights, and deregulate their market.
@LibertyDownUnder You're examples are bad. In Rwanda people still kill each other. This time it is just the other way around the tutsi kill the hutu. A war like it happened in 1994 takes decades to forget. In Angola the Chinese bring their own cheap workers and most of the people in Angola don't profit from the investment. Besides its unfair that the western countries are sitting on their throne and pay these workers nothing compare to what they earn. Somebody will always lose thats the problem.
@LibertyDownUnder And what happens if the investors break down. this is pretty much the problem now. China has the problem that western companies are facing a crisis so they can't sell. The loser of this game will always be the poor. Foreign investment may increases the situation a little but relatively seen they keep the population of these countries poor. I never said aid is the solution, i just say if starvation is extreme aid saves lives. The solution is get rid of global capitalistic system
@LibertyDownUnder Getting rid of capitalism doesn't mean communism. Your view on the world is too deterministic and i didn't say China is worse off than Sudan. We have to bring up a new economic system. Something that hasn't exist before but unfortunately this will only happen when all countries agree to it, so you can call me an idealist. But i believe that capitalism is a dead end and mankind will realize this sooner of later.
@roootchopf, The current faults with the system have nothing to do with free market Capitalism, it's a Corporatist system where Governments and Corporations get a free hand to run the economy.
Wall St Banks and companies like G.E have much greater resources available to them from Government than just about anyone else. They get loan guarantees and special deals that no one else gets. This has nothing to do with "Capitalism"
@LibertyDownUnder False. This system is a gambling system. There are so many different financial products that no one has the overview of it and basically no one can say what will happen in the future. In this system you can invest in the hope that other companies lose money. This is the sickness. A few gamblers earning billions and investing it without any view on the consequences of their action. There are practically no rules and the us depth system for example is the biggest joke of it.
@roootchopf, no oversight is better than broken / corrupt oversight. If you don't understand something - don't invest in it.
The reason so many felt comfortable lending to the US mortgage industry is that the Government guaranteed it! Ron Pauland a few others warned about it back in 2002-3, way before anyone thought it was coming.
If you have some time, this clip explains the whole thing and shows how GW Bush & a few others sowed the seeds for this dissaster:
@LibertyDownUnder "Even this video mentioned that getting flight permits out of Hartom is one of the most difficult issues here."
Khartoum. In any case this video is 20 years old now and the civil war in Sudan has ended. The UN no longer need flight permits from Khartoum to deliver aid in this region as South Sudan is now an independent country seperate from Sudan.
University education or not, that son of a bitch is still a fat fucking gorilla in my eyes, while everyone around him is starving to death.
What Africa needs is modernization and education, so that stupid fucks like this one won't be able to quotes a little Socrates and be able to get away with murder
Africa is plagued by tribalism --I come from a country(Zambia) with 72 different tribes, each with a unique language-- and the only hope is against this is the complete eradication of IGNORANCE. Most of those 6000 Nuer young men don't even know why they are killing other human beings.
@lightonphiri True! I'm a western european white guy and i think the blame is also on the western world. Back in the day western europeans made the borders of some of these countries without considering all the tribes. We started this madness but we don't want to take responsibility for the things we did and thats what i hate about my culture. We destroy lives for profit every day and people know it but it doesn't interest anybody. The eradication of capitalism for me is a global solution.
Dear Nuer, why would u do this to your own people?
coup8585 2 weeks ago
They need to shoot every damn leader of the groups leading others to kill these innocent people. It's sad this has been happening generation after generation and no one cares to even help end the crimes around these countries. They would be with food if the killers left these people alone to grow food, instead they want to kill them before they can harvest any type of help, Africa can be the richest countries if they got rid of all the killers and leaders to these groups!
JD198276 2 weeks ago
If a white person was in charge this wouldn't have happened, theses Sudanese apes know only to kill each other and massacre villagers, though theyre better with the latter.
bladerunner33101 2 months ago
@bladerunner33101, world war 1, and world war 11...Beside a white woman whore call emma was the one misleading this empty man here...Do you realize that the Africa Sudan war started during British rule and do you realize that Sudan was not at war before arabs and whites came to it...I hate your kind.
pana21panda 1 month ago
The filthy murdering chimps responsible for these massacres should be shot like dogs
37zeus37 2 months ago
Bronze age humans with industrial age weapons, recipe for disaster.
LuckyLukeNZ 2 months ago
such a disgrace! poor children.
RobbiMakesYouSmile 2 months ago
my first world problems seem insignificant.
zOMGLaserGunzPewPew 2 months ago
Damn, sad world we live in.
VietIs250 2 months ago
If you're looking at these poor people and are wondering who is to blame, then look no further.
The largest part of western aid is supporting dictators. STOP THE AID, and these countries will become self sufficient: /watch?v=BHKa4qiIegM
LibertyDownUnder 2 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder What u're saying is true, but not in every case. Some of the african nations have much resources and they would be able to help themselves, but not sudan. They have a civil war going on for years and they have absolutely nothing. If western countries give them no aid these people starve to death like they did last summer. If you have access to small organizations where u really know the person who goes to africa u should give them aid.U should be careful with words and fuck cnn
roootchopf 2 months ago
@roootchopf, painting Sudan is a backward hell hole, that is hopeless without aid will not get you anywhere.
If you read Dambisa Moyo's material, you'll see how aid encourages dictators to hold down their people in a state of desperation and DISCOURAGES prosperity.
Even this video mentioned that getting flight permits out of Hartom is one of the most difficult issues here.
LibertyDownUnder 2 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder I'm not disagreeing with u. I'm just saying that there's different ways to help people and u're definitely right considering big organizations. But the small one's who only have a small amount of projects are worth to support cause they know how to support without discouraging the people and because of their size the dictators won't recognize them. Considering Sudan such organizations may don't exist there because of the current situation. But doing nothing is no solution.
roootchopf 2 months ago
@roootchopf, this is my disagreement here. I think that "doing nothing" is the solution.
Western governments did "nothing" to help China out of its poverty 40 years ago, and look at them now. They had African style starvation back then. 80 million (!) died until finally the Government decided that central control doesn't work.
LibertyDownUnder 2 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder Trade with western countries and massive western corporate investment in China has been a huge source for their prosperity. Nonetheless around 400 million people in China still live in conditions of poverty similar to Sub-Saharan Africa.
ornitorrinco01 2 months ago
@ornitorrinco01, that's why I wrote "western governments", and not 'the west'.
Western corporations have improved China quite a bit, unlike western governments which have screwed Africa completley.
The poverty in some areas in China is mostly due to their own government holding them back and manipulating their currency.
LibertyDownUnder 2 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder You cant compare china to sudan. china has the biggest population in the world and before 18th century china was the most developed country in the world.
roootchopf 2 months ago
@roootchopf, China & Sudan were pretty much on par until 1977.
I think it's a fair comparison. It shows how quickly you can turn things around. China pretty much eradicated staravtion in less than 2 years once they freed up the economy and opened up trade relations with the world.
LibertyDownUnder 2 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder False. You can't compare china to any country in the world. No other country has this economic potential because of its population, the size of it and its history. It didn't took them 2 years to eradicate starvation, it took much longer, because when they started to open china they opened it just for specific regions. Until now they just created more of these free market islands in the communist society. But if you don't live in a region like that you are fucked.
roootchopf 2 months ago
@roootchopf, so having more people makes it easier to feed them all?
Africa has a lot of fertile agricultural land, Sudan has plenty of water & natural resources too. All that's needed is a stable Government and to get rid of aid & its influence.
Zimbabwe turned from having a massive export market, to a starving nation in no time once Mugabe took over the farms. The complete opposite can happen in any country in Africa, and they can get out of poverty.
LibertyDownUnder 2 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder More people means more cheap work. Thats why big cooperation invested in China. Because of the history of china which is thousands of years old, stability in the government was there although china is a multiethnic country. In Sudan you have different tribes which were historicaly independent from each other. This is often the case in africa. The tribes were forced to live in a country together because of western imperialism. Stability won't come as easy as it came in china.
roootchopf 2 months ago
@roootchopf Give me an example of a stabile government in africa.
roootchopf 2 months ago
@roootchopf Aid is good when there is an absolute EXTREME situation of starvation. Otherwise i agree with you as long as the global economic system is capitalistic. But this system won't last forever because of the finite resources and the difference between wealth and poverty.
roootchopf 2 months ago
@roootchopf, to suggest that there's a shortage of cheap workers in Sudan is a big call.
I don't buy it.
Botswana, Angola and Rwanda are slowing getting rid of the aid model and are growing rapidly thanks to foreign investment. African countries who want to stop starving to death can do so. They simply have to privatise the land, respect property rights, and deregulate their market.
LibertyDownUnder 2 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder You're examples are bad. In Rwanda people still kill each other. This time it is just the other way around the tutsi kill the hutu. A war like it happened in 1994 takes decades to forget. In Angola the Chinese bring their own cheap workers and most of the people in Angola don't profit from the investment. Besides its unfair that the western countries are sitting on their throne and pay these workers nothing compare to what they earn. Somebody will always lose thats the problem.
roootchopf 2 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder And what happens if the investors break down. this is pretty much the problem now. China has the problem that western companies are facing a crisis so they can't sell. The loser of this game will always be the poor. Foreign investment may increases the situation a little but relatively seen they keep the population of these countries poor. I never said aid is the solution, i just say if starvation is extreme aid saves lives. The solution is get rid of global capitalistic system
roootchopf 2 months ago
@roootchopf, if you get rid of Capitalism, we'll all be like Sudan or North Korea. Or China pre-1978.
If you think modern day China is worse off than Sudan because of ups and downs in the economy - then I'll have to disagree.
I'd rather have an unstable or "unfair" job than to beg for a living and die of starvation.
LibertyDownUnder 2 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder Getting rid of capitalism doesn't mean communism. Your view on the world is too deterministic and i didn't say China is worse off than Sudan. We have to bring up a new economic system. Something that hasn't exist before but unfortunately this will only happen when all countries agree to it, so you can call me an idealist. But i believe that capitalism is a dead end and mankind will realize this sooner of later.
roootchopf 2 months ago
@roootchopf, The current faults with the system have nothing to do with free market Capitalism, it's a Corporatist system where Governments and Corporations get a free hand to run the economy.
Wall St Banks and companies like G.E have much greater resources available to them from Government than just about anyone else. They get loan guarantees and special deals that no one else gets. This has nothing to do with "Capitalism"
LibertyDownUnder 2 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder False. This system is a gambling system. There are so many different financial products that no one has the overview of it and basically no one can say what will happen in the future. In this system you can invest in the hope that other companies lose money. This is the sickness. A few gamblers earning billions and investing it without any view on the consequences of their action. There are practically no rules and the us depth system for example is the biggest joke of it.
roootchopf 2 months ago
@roootchopf, no oversight is better than broken / corrupt oversight. If you don't understand something - don't invest in it.
The reason so many felt comfortable lending to the US mortgage industry is that the Government guaranteed it! Ron Pauland a few others warned about it back in 2002-3, way before anyone thought it was coming.
If you have some time, this clip explains the whole thing and shows how GW Bush & a few others sowed the seeds for this dissaster:
/watch?v=4ECi6WJpbzE
LibertyDownUnder 2 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder "Even this video mentioned that getting flight permits out of Hartom is one of the most difficult issues here."
Khartoum. In any case this video is 20 years old now and the civil war in Sudan has ended. The UN no longer need flight permits from Khartoum to deliver aid in this region as South Sudan is now an independent country seperate from Sudan.
ornitorrinco01 2 months ago
I can see only stupid monkeys
roman949 2 months ago
Lots of money for guns. None for food
conor1977 2 months ago 13
that country is so primitive. It's like they're still living prehistoric times.
mralanv 2 months ago
@mralanv Prehistoric but they have tanks. It's a cynical tragedy.
Ah4b 2 months ago
University education or not, that son of a bitch is still a fat fucking gorilla in my eyes, while everyone around him is starving to death.
What Africa needs is modernization and education, so that stupid fucks like this one won't be able to quotes a little Socrates and be able to get away with murder
EdTheDragonSlayer 2 months ago 11
sick world we live... if 12-12-12 will become true i'll be happy this will end too.
abunaiN1 2 months ago
@abunaiN1 Idiot without a clue!
TheOioink 2 months ago
@TheOioink stfu sisy
abunaiN1 2 months ago
@abunaiN1 This comment does not make you any less a idiot.
TheOioink 2 months ago
@TheOioink but you are still 100% homo...
fack nwo faggots !!
abunaiN1 2 months ago
@abunaiN1
The NWO is not real. It's a fairy-tale dreamt up by conspiracy theorists, a boogeyman whom they blame for any perceived iniquity in the world.
EikC 2 months ago
Africa is plagued by tribalism --I come from a country(Zambia) with 72 different tribes, each with a unique language-- and the only hope is against this is the complete eradication of IGNORANCE. Most of those 6000 Nuer young men don't even know why they are killing other human beings.
lightonphiri 2 months ago 4
@lightonphiri True! I'm a western european white guy and i think the blame is also on the western world. Back in the day western europeans made the borders of some of these countries without considering all the tribes. We started this madness but we don't want to take responsibility for the things we did and thats what i hate about my culture. We destroy lives for profit every day and people know it but it doesn't interest anybody. The eradication of capitalism for me is a global solution.
roootchopf 2 months ago
@lightonphiri
agreed, atrocities like this happen when people forget their basic huhman responsibilities
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