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  • Support for gun control has been declining recently in the US. I can't speak for Canada, but the right to bear arms is part of the US Constitution. One of the reasons was to protect Americans from tyranny.

  • Canadian gun laws are retarded.. i know, I'm Canadian. The best is the SKS vrs AK47.. only difference in Canada is 2", but the look scares everyone.... oooooooohhhh. Fuck parliament.

  • I dont know if you know this but there is an equivlent of a ccw permit in canada but to my knowledge no one has ever been issued one

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  • In Canada are you guys required to have the AR-15 mag welded to the receiver like is required in California, so the only way to remove the mag is to use a tool or to break the rifle down to reload it?

  • @GunsOfThePhoenix no, it does not have to be welded, it can be removed normally, it does have to be pinned at 5 rounds though.

  • @CanadianPatriot1973 btw you can get 10 rounds AR-15 magazine because some of them fall into *pistol magazine* apparently! make as much sense as ours gun laws anyway! have a good day

  • @CanadianPatriot1973 Because the sixth round kills women and children. Luckily the Army allows full-auto C7A1's which have 30 round mags.

  • @GunsOfThePhoenix We don't need welded mags on our AR's... but we do need a 'tool' to slow down the person changing mags... the common tool is a 'bullet button' or tip of a .223 that inserts into the mag release to depress a recessed spring... Welded is what they want most to think as LE just doesn't like black guns...truth be told, we have them here in cali with pistol grips, muzzle breaks, barrel shrouds..all the 'evil space gun' features but only 10 rounds per mag post ban items. C Calguns

  • I like Canada but I don't think I can live there because I'm a handgun owner.

  • @blam7 yes you can you have to get a restricted gun liscence though, which is a class and a test (free or donation based)

  • why would anyone whos sane..would want to own a machine-gun? or any other fully-automatic weapon? these should not be legal anywhere not even for law inforcement if you ask me. just in the army.. these weapons are hard to manage and easily get out of control..

  • @benmints

    "Why...would want to own a machine-gun?"

    Because it would be a blast to shoot one?

  • @RetSquid no i wouldnt. infact i have used MAG before (F. awesomeness!!) and a 5.56 machine gun.. i just dont trust ppl to own them..its too dangerous and it serves no purpose..besides mass distruction. why would anyone want to own a 1000 rpm gun? because its cool? there you go..theres the answer...i think it would be nice if there was a shooting range that allowed ppl to have the intense experinece but thats it. no rights to own one.

  • @benmints

    Good thing you're in Canada and not here. While MG's are very restricted, all Americans have the right to own firearms unless they do something to lose that right.

    Of course we fought a Revolution to secure those rights, we are not going to give them up without another fight.

  • why do evry patriots in evry countrie r always involve wit gunz?

  • @bluezone28

    Because if only the bad guys have guns, life would be very short and very painful.

  • @RetSquid haha i cant belive how stupid what you said is . dont forget that most of the criminals wants to get their guns easily instead of doing a big traffic thing. thats exacly why canada is the best

  • @bluezone28

    And now only the bad guys have guns, right? And your crime rates have fallen to zero, right?

  • @RetSquid well yeah almost but here in canada the majority of the "bad guys" r not gang members or anything like that: last years, most of the murders commited with guns were mens killing their wife: doctors teachers and stuff like that. educated people. of course gangs still exist but most of them r unarmed.

  • @bluezone28

    I find that very had to believe, what are your sources for this information?

  • @RetSquid statistic canada

  • @bluezone28

    Where exactly on that site?

    BTW, you guys better outlaw cars you had 3,097 deaths resulting from a traffic accidents. And you need more mental healthcare, you had 3,511 suicides. And while you are at it, you MUST ban all knives, they killed more people than guns did, 210-179.

  • @AtheisMisReality And Switzerland has one of the lowest despite gun ownership being a REQUIREMENT for all Swiss men. What is your point? The U.S's crime is a result of poverty and mental illness. Not gun ownership. There is no evidence that reducing the number of guns in the U.S will reduce the crime rate. In fact quuite the opposite. But you can't tell hippies that.

  • Attention all who want to be free again. MOVE TO TEXAS! You can own a fully automatic .50 cal heavy machine gun here (licenced of course) and nobody will lift a finger against you in court. We Texans love our guns and would love other gun lovers to come and join us. As a 2nd amendment hero once said, they can have my guns when the pry them from my cold dead fingers.

  • They wanna make it so hard for ppl to arm themselves. Like the saying goes and armed society is a polite society.Chicago IL, guns banned= crime rates shoot through the roof.

  • Have a gunsmith you know really well extend mags, and put them in a SAFE place IF you ever need them. Thats all I need to say. =)

  • I`m going to be unpopular here. I`m a gun owner, for hunting. In Canada we have come to a concensus over the ownership and purpose for possesing firearms. Basically they are to be used for hunting and sport, not for defense. In places like the states where you have the right to carry guns for defense, they are most often used for offensive purposes and a lot of people end up dead. I would rather live and vacation in a place where the average citizen does not carry weapons. It`s responsible.

  • @dhebert111 Not unpopular, you have the right to your opnion. But, it's not gun owners who brake the laws here in the states, it's gang members and criminals with illegal fire arms that were purchased on the black-market that shoot and kill ppl. There may be some cases where some crazed lunatic that has a legal gun shoots up ppl shown on the msm, but to me it makes it all the more suspicious especially when the governments are trying to find ways of disarming ppl.

  • @endofsociety I hear ya bud, I don`t know what to say about that. I`m sure the gang members over here have guns too, but I don`t really hear about it. You`re right about the lunatic thing though, it happens over here too, and it isn`t right to punish people who don`t break the law. I can say though I live in the country basically and the crime rate is very low. As far as gangs are concerned, I don`t think there are any dangerous ones around here, so I can`t really comment on that aspect.

  • @dhebert111 That's BS. Where do you get your statistics? I have studies that prove otherwise. You've been brainwashed by the Liberal party. The RCMP caught STATSCAN knowingly lying at the request of Jean Cretien's Liberals to inflate crime stats to further their anti gun agenda. If we have decided not to allow guns for defense in Canada it's because of people like you who don't understand how liberals want you to lose ALL your rights to own ANY guns. You're the worst kind of gun owner.

  • @SCROGY Statistics? I was merely relating my perception of my own environment. We don`t have rights, we have privilages, you can`t take away rights. To me, and I can only speak for ME, a gun is a tool used for hunting. I have been from across Canada a couple dozen time, mostly for work, and I have never run into a situation where I needed to defend my life with a gun or weapon of any kind. There are many countries where this is not possible, but Canada is not one of them. Thankyou gun laws.

  • @dhebert111 And all those home invasions that make the newspapers just go past you? Just because you have been lucky in this regard doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Maybe when it happens to you, you'll change your tune.

  • @dhebert111 Responsible? WTF? Are you even a gun owner or are you just making that up? Provide evidence when you claim that giving citizens the right to carry guns results in them being used for offence by responsible owners. If you're saying criminals do this then yes. But that's no reason to limit responsible owners from owning guns. We don't take cars away from people just because drunk drivers kill people with their cars. It is a human right to have access to guns for self defense.

  • @dhebert111 I can't believe there are gun owners like yourself that have been brainwashed by all the liberal BS. You do realise that you wouldn't even HAVE your guns for hunting if the Liberals got their way right? That's what they do. They push for and get a legal precedence and then use it to take away all your rights. Then people like you deny it and deny right up to the point where the police come into your house and take them from you. Then it's too late to get them back.

  • @SCROGY I`m pretty happy that you`re not allowed to have an automatic weapon buddy, cause you seem to get easily pissed off, maybe you should try giving your woman a little pat down or something and releive some stress, honestly, all you`re doing is making a case for the liberal nut jobs you seem to hate, calm down, nobody is coming to take stuff out of your house or anything, just breath in through your nose and out through your mouth a few times, thats it, good...........now talk.

  • @dhebert111 LOL at you. I don't even have a speeding ticket in 25 years of driving so you can stop making baseless assumptions. What I am, is passionate about freedoms. Freedoms that certain groups (Liberal, NDP, Coalition For Gun Control) want to take away from you. And I don't need to make a case for the liberal nut jobs because guys like you are ok with giving ground to them. What you fail to understand is that they DO want to take your rights away to own ANY guns. Pierre Trudeau......

  • @dhebert111 .....even said it publicly. Wendy Kukier wants a total ban and has even had her hand in disarming people in Africa. Toronto Mayor David Miller stated in the news that ALL GUNS should be banned from private ownership. In the 70's the trudeau Liberals said: "We only want the handguns". And people like you agreed. Then they asked for more, and more and more. You don't get it do you? They are trying with every move they make to set precedents to get just one more law on the.....

  • @dhebert111 .....books, because with each one they succeed at it gets easier to reach their ultimate goal. And this whole business of cops supporting the registry is pure garbage. I know better than 20 cops (I have completed my Police testing) and not a SINGLE ONE of them agrees with the registry. They all have told me that they are being forced to toe the line from the higher ups, and the Chiefs are being told to support it from the politicians. And that it is a waste of time and money.....

  • @dhebert111 .....you say no one is coming to take the guns away from private owners? Tell that to Pierre Trudeau, tell that to Mayor Miller and tell that to Ms Kukier. I don't believe for one minute you are a hunter or a gun owner because you have zero concept of what these people are after. I have researched this for years.  I have seen the lies, the falsifying of statistics, the corruption and the desire these people have to disarm you. The fact that you will continue to deny it.....

  • @dhebert111 ............right up until you are forced to give up your hunting rifles (if you really are a hunter, you sound more like a Liberal shill to me) saddens me because the people that do know what the Wendy Kukiers of the world want really don't need you as an ally.

    And if you doubt ANYTHING I have said here I would be more than happy to send you the proof of my claims. Just let me know when you want the info. I still believe that if you really are a hunter I can open your eyes.

  • @SCROGY We are still allowed to have handguns though.I was born a hunter buddy, I was in the woods with my cousins at 12 years old hunting, in my familly it`s tradition and something I`ll pass on to my son later on. I`m from the country and I just don`t see it the way you do. Laws don`t mean the same out here eithor i guess, just cause some guy in a suit 1000 klicks away says bend over doesn`t mean we do. I`m glad those young disrespectful misfits from the city have less access to guns though.

  • @dhebert111 That's where you're wrong. If you think for ONE SECOND that any gun law stops a gang member from getting a gun illegally in a matter of minutes then you're deluding yourself. And if you're saying that being in the country means you don't have to obey the laws then you a hypocrite because you came down on me for saying that the liberals want to take your guns away (which they do) and yet you are saying that you just go ahead and ignore the law?

  • @dhebert111 And just remember, hand guns are the most restricted guns that you can legally own in Canada yet they are used in crimes more often by a huge margin. So much for the effectiveness of Gun Control.

  • @AtheisMisReality and exactly what do you use as your infallible guide? 'Science"? Atheists believe a THEORY of nothingness with absolutely nothing of actual fact to back it up. And somehow, dismiss those who believe a book that was written over a span of almost 2000 years, across three continents by 40 different authors comprised of 66 books which do not contradict each other, history or the world as we know it today. Talk about losing credibility.

  • our gun laws work. shwos in how many murders you have versus us. no need for them cept to hunt. its a false ego for week people and then shootings happen. kinda like american gov...bullies with guns. no guns no need for the so called protection. we dont...why is it diff. you have diff mentalities??...shoot first aske question later???

  • My stuff is already burried. not going to worry about ANY laws. when the time comes, even if it isnt me, my weapons will be available for defending liberty and freedom.

  • @AtheisMisReality After a month you reply with that? Tell me the difference between a spear and a pointy stick. How do you propose to disarm the criminals? Are you going to stand there and pout because they wont (and never have) obeyed your meaningless laws? They use American made weapons? So what? We make good guns. If anyone needs beer, they will come to you. For the important stuff, they come to us. You gave up your rights, so I really dont care about your opinion anyway. Baaa sheep

  • Bring back freedom to Canada and resist anyone trying to take any rights away. You need your gun rights back and form a Canadian version of the NRA, like the USA has.

  • @stephenabm hey, the NRA just released to the states all the names of those in the NRA. so we arent as lucky as you think. theres no reason to release that info, and my state was the first to do it. they have a plan they are going to roll out soon. like Katrina.gun s confiscated. Hopefully people have already burried, and relocated their protection.

  • @2skullscrushing The NRA will never release the names of menbers. Not all gun owners are members, as the number of American Gun Owners amount to over 80,000,000 and the number og guns in the USA number around 280,000,000

  • @stephenabm well, its already happened here in illinois, sorry to say. look it up.

  • omg! I need to find a girl like you my age and marry her! I can't stand this anti-gun attitude most people I talk to have

  • Canada gun laws are as messed up as in the UK.

  • Omg...louder..project your voice! Cant hear you

  • there is a car in the kitchen?

  • Fight and get your rights back! Form a NRA in Canada...

  • What I got from this video, is that they have so many technicalities in the law, that you are probably breaking the law, even when you don't have a clue that you are. Government loves to do this. You'll find out that you have the wrong brand of bullet in your gun, be arrested, jailed, and fined. That way they can scare you, get some of your money, and make you paranoid to ever want to own a gun again, all at the same time.

  • @WTFLYR Bang on! You have it completely right!

  • @WTFLYR Well put... its a DOOSEY!!

  • gun law's r bullshit in canada, if ppl can smoke dope. i should have the right 2 own a fully-automatic weapon..what im i 4?..i pay taxes..i should have the right. cars kill ppl 2. why dont we banned them....communist canada.

  • @chadberry75 yuppers

  • @chadberry75 seeing how you fucking spell I wouldn't let you have a car either. communist Canada huh? what a twat.

  • @chadberry75 smoking marijuana is actually illegal in Canada unfortunately

  • @chadberry75 You can't smoke dope in Canada.

  • @TheWhiteCinematic yes you can, in Vancouver cafes it is completely allowed.

  • @WinkyMaeve Really? Thats fucked up.

  • @TheWhiteCinematic Uh no it's not, it is called freedom, just like gun rights, all of this has to do with Liberty.

  • @WinkyMaeve No, it's called exposing people to illegal drug second hand smoke.

  • @TheWhiteCinematic illegal drug?

    LOL@ you being an advocate for gun rights.

    what a RINO

  • @WinkyMaeve

    LOL@ you having to insult your way out of a debate.

    what a FAG

  • @TheWhiteCinematic insult?

    sorry kid, it isn't an insult.

    you can't pick and choose freedoms, and you can't pick and choose liberty.

    you can't support the Federal government telling you what to do with your body but you don't support the Federal government telling you what to do with your guns.

    Freedoms are Freedoms, Liberties are Liberties.

    wake up.

  • @WinkyMaeve Cool, Now tell someone who gives a shit.

  • @TheWhiteCinematic like I said, a child and a rino.

  • @WinkyMaeve Cool. Suck a dick.

  • If you ask any criminal, they will tell you that they wouldn't rob you if they suspected you have a gun. So I sleep better at night knowing that I still have my rights. Plus, most criminals acquire their firearms illegally, like gangsters, drug lords etc. That's why we do background checks now. So please don't blame freedom for the loss of innocent lives. Blame the lame justice system of our country.

  • @knrwingnut Im with you on most of that. Keep in mind though, the only people who will submit to a background check are law abiding people. The crooks will never fill out forms or allow their name to be entered in a computer. What this guy does not understand is that laws will never stop criminals. They will get guns illegally. Ill assume drugs are illegal in Australia. Does that mean there are no drug addicts in Australia? Criminals dont follow laws. Thats what makes them criminals.

  • why do you need more than 5-10 round in a clip? Katie is a fear monger! nothing wrong with owning a gun and proving you are a responsible owner/operator, but please stop putting the fear aspect out there as the only way to be.

  • @wcresponder I dont know how I missed your comment. First, please use the correct terms. You are talking about magazines, not clips. They are totally different things. Why should I not have any size magazine I want? I normally carry a 10 round magazine, and a 17 round magazine as a spare (in case my day really goes to hell). That gives me 28 rounds (yes the math is correct) to make a bad guys day worse than mine. Like they say in the Boy Scouts, be prepared.

  • @rb2112002 theres some of the fear, you really feel you need 27 rounds Yes the math is right but wait you might have meant you also have one in the chamber. That would make 28. Hell why not a double drum system, also in the video she was talking about rifles as well which can use clips. I hope you can deal with any colateral damage if you need all 28? rounds.

  • @wcresponder I cant conceal a double drum system. I hope that I don't need any rounds. If I was to play the odds, the chances are I will never have to use my weapon.  In that case, why carry at all? The point is that you cant predict what will happen. I own 3 fire extinguishers. It doesn't mean I expect my house to burst into flames. Fear? Not really my choice of words, but there are some scary people out there. The big mag also helps balance the gun when I wear it in a shoulder holster.

  • Outlawing guns takes guns from lawabiding citizens, criminals will still be able to get them, but hey, at least the good people aren't armed... There are more guns in AK than there are people, but not alot of gun crimes.

  • @jfree1998 Apparently, Australians are a more violent group. They are not allowed to own knives either. This guy seems to think that we have no right to tell the govt what to do. He feels we should be harmless little sheep, depending on the govt for everything. Dont bother arguing with him, he is so far past arrogant. Now he want to tell people in other countries what to do. Where was his guts when they were taking his rights away? Another youtubetoughguy.

  • Lol, the Canadian gun laws are retarded. You just buy semi auto rifles, and mod them lol, then buy a larger magazine. My uncle has a fully auto m4 carbine.

  • Alberta

  • This is BS we should have the same rights as Americans. We buy there crap anyways. What if their people got attacked they have machine guns we have crappy bolt action and semi 22 or pellet guns . Change the laws

  • @robsman1 Where are you?

  • Wrong. The 2nd Amendment was written in the light of Evglish soldiers abusing their tyrannical rule and Thomas Jefforson's words remain as law to ensure that a citizen militia could be formed when government gets too big.

    Your "ststs" are skewed, as all are. This is something I am very familiar with thanks in great part to my bachellor's in Criminal Justice and decade with Military Intelligence.

    Glad your country is perfect, Have a good day in the clouds and farewell on this thread, please.

  • Here in the US Just buy a legal Ak and then burry it in the back yard. Report the gun stolen. Your gunna want it when the shit hits the fan. We can have 30 rd mags down here still Get them while you can. 

  • politicians prefer unarmed peasants!.........if you dont like guns you need to study more history!!

  • Why do you lot need all these guns? Assault rifles, sniper rifles... Is there a war going on in your backyards?

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow lol you really dont understand do you? armed citizens is a free society unarmed citizens is a slave society. Americans have the right!! not a Privilege to have guns, for this reason, tyranny. its our culture,tradition our way of life.

    all these guns assault weapons don't exist you can assault anyone with a firearm. we love to shoot at target range or hunt or protect ourselves in our own home.

    just gave you 4 reasons gimme yours.

  • @GrizzPaul 180 American deaths per day from firearms. That's the only reason any society should need to stop providing things designed for the sole purpose of killing freely to its citizens. I bet you'd change your tune if your son or daughter shot themselves in the face with your Glock. And if Australia is a slave society, then perhaps your ideas on slavery are skewed. My city, Melbourne, has been ranked within the top three safest, most livable cities for ten years running. No complaints here.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow your mistaken, your crime has increased when you outlawed allot of your types of firearms, the criminals are more bold on robbing your house, coming in in the middle of the night, rape your wife, murder your kids and cut your throat or shoot you with A black market firearm. and when you try to defend yourself, you go to jail... UK itself brings out 300,000 guns a year off the street and the UK police are now wearing bullet proof vests, lol its sad.

  • @GrizzPaul This is the paranoid, worst-case scenario I hear from every gun nut in the US; the guy who comes in to steal your stuff, rape your woman and kill you for kicks. One would think every home in America is a scene right out of The Crow. You're right about Australia's crime going up, but our population has also gone up, so it's a typical trend in crime rates. And the crimes that have gone up are not homicides, they're petty thefts, drunken brawls and misdemeanours. Reasonable trade.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow O ya one more thing, next time look up detailed statistics because most Americans that get killed in America are the criminals,suicides and police killing criminals, o ya one more thing, citizens of my great country protect themselves 2.5 million using a firearm each year. so don't keep reading the liberal anti-gun ads or news that you see, allot of the times too all the times they wont tell you the very beneficial statistics of firearms. allot of responsible citizens.

  • @GrizzPaul And I did have one guy break into my house once. Turns out I didn't need an AK-47, a fire poker works well enough. And because it's so difficult to come across firearms in Australia, he had a knife, not a gun. On statistics, how about this statistic: "In 2003 alone, 30,136 Americans died by gunfire: 16,907 in firearm suicides, 11,920 in firearm homicides, 730 in unintentional shootings, and 232 in firearm deaths of unknown intent". O ya, and triple that in Injuries. Safe as kittens.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow

    The firearms didn't kill anyone.

    And as long as you are spewing the schizophrenic Brady crap, look up how many stabbings, beatings, and other non firearm related homicides there are yearly.

    This anti gun insanity is uselesss and getting tiring, don't push your rhetoric down my throat and my guns and I will go happily our way.

  • @annihilator1100 How is anybody supposed to take you guys seriously when half your buddies here are spouting off this paranoid, militia nonsense? Talking about protecting yourselves from a government straight out of a third-world dictatorship or an George Orwell novel. It's ridiculous. Talk about insanity. Weighing the practical statistics of how many thousands of Americans die each year against the off chance that Darth Vader will take control of the US government. There's insanity.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow Militia nonsense? You should open your eyes, and shut your mouth. You are clearly not seeing what is happening around you..

  • @rb2112002 And what's that? The Illuminati taking control? The Freemasons establishing the new world order? Please, my friend, we could fill the roof of the Sistine Chapel tenfold with the names of people like you who have, over the centuries, made such accusations of government and authority. Your attacks are unfounded, your logic is flawed. There is no bogeyman waiting in the wings.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow No, genius. Its the govt telling you what you can own and not own. Its people being told not to trust one another. Its people being told to let the govt make all the decisions. Read a history book. A non-fiction one. I am talking history, not a Dan Brown novel. Separate your cranium from your rectum please? The holocaust didn't happen? Millions of Russians didn't get killed under Stalin? People didn't get murdered under Saddam Hussein? Go back to sleep.

  • @rb2112002 And here we go again. Obama is committing genocide, is he? Locking up political prisoners in gulags in Siberia? He's eliminating opposing religious minorities? Funny that you would tell ME to get my head out of my arse. There's some poetry right there. You say the government regulating its citizens is dangerous? I say somebody needs to regulate guys like you. Going off on ridiculous tangents and comparing your leaders to the worst tyrants in history. You're the real danger to people.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow

    The only folks who legally posess "assault rifles" are ffl holders. You mean semi automatic sporting rifles? "Assault rifles" are capable of full auto fire and are illegal.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow I don't need them. I also don't need a sports car. I don't need a 4 br house. I don't need a 37 inch TV.  Maybe I just want them. Maybe I don't like people telling me what to do?

  • @rb2112002 Maybe you sound like the type of guy that sees himself going out in a blaze of glory in a shoot-out with the ATF? You don't get to tell the government you don't like them telling you what to do. That's what it's there for. It's their job to make sure some idiot can't just go down to the shop, buy some coke and then t-bone your minivan and kill your entire family. It's also their job to make sure some guy can't wake up one day and kill 35 people with his AR-10. At least here it is.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow Wow, freedom of choice means I want to die in a gun battle?  You read way too much into that slick. The govt is there to tell you what to do? No, they are there to run the country the way we (the people)want it run. Do you live in north korea? As for the minivan comment, Im so confused by it, I wont reply. How does the govt keep people from doing illegal things like arson. Ban matches? Forgery, ban pens? Your statement is not very well thought out.

  • @rb2112002 Only if you're a guy intent on twisting everything I say into nonsense. Keep playing with your toy guns, champ, there's no talking to a paranoid gun nut.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow Paranoid? You are afraid of machines and people who own them. I dont need to twist anything for you, you are twisted enough already. I think you must pride yourself in your ignorance.

  • @rb2112002 I'm afraid of devices designed entirely for the sole purpose of killing being owned and operated by psychologically unstable individuals. You, on the other hand, are afraid of shadow governments and protecting your sovereign rights from hypothetical dictatorships and invasion forces. I'll take my practical fears over your delusional fears any day.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow Cars kill 3x as many people as guns. You dont use cars? Shadow govts? I think you like the sound of your own voice. You said that govts dont get out of control, and everyone who disagrees is paranoid. I gave examples of when it has happened and you ignore what is in front of you. Did the holocaust happen? Was the Khmer Rouge fantasy? Your fears are not practical, they are just as delusional as your idea that you can ignore history. You are so obtuse. Read a book--plz

  • @rb2112002 Cars are PRACTICAL. Cars don't exist just to make shit dead. Guns are tools of death and you idiots treat them like toys and hobbies. It's incredible. The examples you gave of out of governments are extremist tyrants. There is absolutely no comparison to the US government, and unless you were stupid enough to vote Ann Coulter or Glenn Beck in as your president, there never would be. You can't compare McCain or Obama to a genocidal bigot and a genocidal cannibal. it's ridiculous.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow Guns dont exist to kill. You sound like you have a preoccupation with death. Do you look at everything dangerous as a weapon, or is it just guns? Once again, my guns have never killed anyone. Neither has my car, can you figure out why? Some people are criminals, others are not. can you see the difference cupcake? Are you even an American? You sound like a Socialist canadian. If you are not an American, kindly keep your rhetoric to yourself?

  • @rb2112002 So at what point does a govt pass a line and become tyrannical? You already said that we have no right to tell the govt what to do. You seem to like people running your life for you and telling you what to think. You are a pathetic sheep, waiting for the slaughter. Baaaaa.

  • @rb2112002 The only slaughter comes from lunatics like Martin Bryant. You know him? Oh, and we did ban knives. Not kitchen knives, because, once again, they're a practical necessity, but combat knives are not. They're made to kill, just like your toys. I know there are criminals with guns in Australia. The problem is gun-toting psychopaths that wake up one day and shoot everybody dead or commit a double homicide in a vengeful rage when they find their girlfriends in bed with another man.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow Yup, cant kill anyone with a kitchen knife in a vengeful rage. Good law. You really changed my outlook..

  • @rb2112002 Yeah... the minute guns become practical for anything other than killing shit, maybe they'll have a use in society that doesn't exclusively involve killing shit. Then you can compare them to a kitchen knife. Until then, shut up.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow They are good for lots of things. Target shooting, self defence, hunting, protection from vermin, some are just family heirlooms. Kitchen knives are somehow safer than "combat" knives? What is a "combat" knife anyway? Is there something that makes them different? Kitchen knives are nor sharp? Not pointy? Once again, your logic elludes me. I guess its a good thing that you like people to think and decide things for you. You would never make it in a free country.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow What is it like to be treated like a child? To be told what you can and cant own? What does it feel like to have a govt who has already decided you are too unstable to own guns or even knives? Once again, when you can own a gun, then you can decide for yourself. But you cant, because you are too dangerous or stupid to own anything dangerous. Until you can make your own decisions, you are a child, so shut up..

  • @rb2112002 Ridiculous logic. You are a proud, arrogant, stubborn fool of a person. You live up to the perfect American stereotype of digging in your heels and crossing your arms, not changing your ways or beliefs no matter how ignorant or how foolish the outcome. The simple fact of the matter is that guns are too dangerous and too unnecessary to simply be handed out to every Tom, Dick and Harry that walks past with enough money to buy one. yet you do it, it leaves us all gobsmacked.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow As for the first line, yes, and proud of it. We dont do what people want us to. We decide for ourselves. Children like you sit and pout because you made bad decisions, and you want the rest of us to pay along with you. We make mistakes, thats how people grow up. Owning guns is is not a mistake just because you choose not to. Oh yea, you didn't decide, you were told not to. Apparently, you are not responsible enough to own a gun. Thats good, children shouldnt own them.

  • @rb2112002 This guy... Going on like America doesn't have more shooting deaths and gun rampages than any other first-world country (where's that apparent responsibility now?), talking about the safety of his toys, how responsible he is and how damned proud of the fact that American lives are worth sacrificing in order to keep playing with them. And I'm the child? What owning guns isn't is a trivial matter. You wouldn't get it, because you're the kid who won't give up his toys for anything.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow Im an adult, and Im allowed to make decisions. It must bother the hell out of you. Maybe if you lived in the free world, you would be allowed to decide to not own guns. I guess your govt has the same opinion of you as I do. "Silly child, you'll shoot your eye out". Go ban pointy sticks. You obviously have too much free time. Oh, in case you haven't figured it out yet, Americans don't give a shit about your opinion. Just another foreigner telling us what to do.

  • @rb2112002 lol You can be stubborn and dig your heels in and spit the dummy. Sound like something familiar? The poetry is grand. You can also be as patronising and arrogant as you want; "Another foreign child telling us what to do, I guess we better just give them the finger rather than see how their cultures are working out for them." Might wanna actually see how the rest of the civilised world ranks compared to the US. You're gonna be mightily disappointed with the results. In all categories.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow Is that poetry? Really? As for your culture, I don't live there, so who cares? Lets not forget that the crime rate went up after you disarmed all the law biding citizens and allowed the criminals to stay armed. Is that the culture we should be using as an example? Have you banned pointy sticks yet? They could be used to commit a crime, maybe, possibly. You should ban trees too, the source of all these dangerous weapons. You are and will remain a child, a silly one.

  • @rb2112002 Pointy sticks? As in spears? Yeah, we've banned those, too. Let's not alter the facts to suit your opinions, our homicide rates, as well as all firearms-related crime, dropped like a rock. Not like YOUR crime rates. They never go up, amirite? You guys are the safest country in the world? Ah, but that's actually Norway. At least you're in the top 10, right? Nope. Top 20? Had to get there eventually. You have the 12th highest homicide rate in the world, but at least you have your toys.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow OMG, you actually banned sticks. You people are too much. How about kitchen kinives, those things can hurt someone. Your gun crime rate increased when you banned guns. Oops, you forgot to get the criminals guns? Did you take their spears? The Aborigines too? You folks don't have any respect for anyones rights, do you? Besides the criminals of course. You wouldn't dream about taking on that problem. The bad guys might object, and they are still armed. Silly child..

  • @rb2112002 Jesus, did you get dropped on your head as a baby? It would explain a lot, like how you've already asked me the knife question, and how you dodge every logical argument against firearms in order to call me a child. It's childish. So let's see how dangerous Australia is in comparison to the US... The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, despite our similarities in culture, you have a six-fold chance of being killed in the US, as opposed to Australia. Good thing we banned sticks...

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow If you present a logical argument, I will listen. Yes, I did ask the knife question twice, and twice you avoided it. Can a person be killed with a kitchen knife? Why have you not banned them? How does taking guns away from law abiding citizens reduce crime? Wouldn't it make more sense to take guns away from criminals? If you refuse to disarm the bad guys, at least give the honest people a chance to defend themselves? 6 fold? Fold this. Its the criminals, you shmuck.

  • @rb2112002 Fold this? Fold what? Is that the e-finger for the stats? Makes sense... bloody American. Literally everything you said I have already answered before. Are you paying attention? Again, kitchen knives are multi-purpose, practical instruments. We HAVE banned combat knives. They are not. Taking guns away from law-abiding citizens is the only way to ensure you prevent gun crime. Everybody is a law-abiding citizen to begin with. We do take guns from criminals. We also send them to prison.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow What stats? Guns are not multi purpose? Maybe to a closed minded sheep like you. A kitchen knife cant be used to hurt someone? "Taking guns away from law-abiding citizens is the only way to ensure you prevent gun crime". This is the stupidest statement you have typed so far. "Everybody is a law-abiding citizen to begin with". WTF? "We do take guns from criminals". Really, did the criminals turn them in? Of course they didnt. You are truly a narrow minded fool..

  • @rb2112002 Jesus Christ, I just gave you the UN stats on homicide comparisons between Australia and the US and you ask what stats? Imbecile. Everybody IS a law-abiding citizen to begin with. Nobody starts out as a murder or a guy shooting people from a bell tower or a kid walking through the school gunning down other kids. As for the kitchen knife thing... fuck, I give up. I don't know how many more times I can tell you the difference between kitchen knives and assault rifles for practical use.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow Hell. I don't need either to kill someone. I'll just use my fists to beat someone to pulp. Getting rid of firearms won't solve anything. Criminals will continue to get their guns off of the BLACK MARKET!

  • @knrwingnut Criminals are going to get guns either way. It's the crazies and the pressure cooker individuals who just lose it one day that won't have a gun. It's the kids who find daddy's Beretta in the closet that shoot themselves in the face. It's the guy who keeps a gun in the glove box when some drunk head-ons his car and kills the former's family. These people won't have the guns. Don't tell me guns aren't a problem when you're six times more likely to be killed in the US than Australia.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow And once again, you have decided that honest people with guns is bad, and you can somehow keep guns away from criminals by making more laws. Criminals dont follow laws. can you understand that? Is murder illegal in Australia? Does that mean it never happens? How about drunk driving? Are you going to ban cars and alcohol just because some people are too irresponsible to have access? As for daddies Beretta, you better lock up your car keys too. Kids might take the car.

  • @rb2112002 Could society function without cars? Really? Do you think it possible? Once again, you're comparing a practical object to an object of murder. I realise you enjoy using these items for leisure. God knows, I enjoyed the firing range when I was in the RAAF Cadets, but does your hobby take precedence over the safety of the American people? Honestly compare the possibility of an American tyrant to the number of gun deaths, criminal or otherwise, in the US each year. Is it acceptable?

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow I have owned guns for 25+ years. I have never gone crazy, I have never had an accident. I have however protected myself twice by just having a gun. maybe the criminals are different in Australia, but they are coward here. They prey on the weak and defenceless. I didnt buy my first gun for protection, I bought it because I couldn't own a gun when I lived in NJ. Despite the strict gun control, they still had one of the most deadly cities in the world--Camden. look it up.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow I am not proposing banning cars. I am asking you to evaluate you own logic. If people can own guns and not kill anyone, then a gun becomes a tool, or as you have called it, a toy. I never treat anything that dangerous as a toy though. The point I am making, is that there are people that should not be allowed to drive. Yes, there are people who should not be allowed to own a gun or anything potentially dangerous (kitchen knives). You cant treat everyone like wackos

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow To me a gun is a last ditch method of protecting myself and those around me. I carry a gun every time I leave the house. It has been said that the world is made up of wolves-5%, sheep-90% and sheepdogs-5%. I dont go out looking for trouble, but I like to think that I would at least try to help a victim of violent crime. I guess Im a part time sheepdog. Not a vigilante, just a person who hates crime. Guns are not always bad. My kids think they are fun too.

  • @rb2112002 Keep them away from your kids. Parents who make up suicide statistics due to their kids finding their firearms is significant. I would not wish such a fate upon anybody. I cannot dissuade you from your hobby, I understand, but I hope you realise that a fire poker is just as useful, should somebody break into your home. Trust me on this. I honestly hope your hobby will not lead you to an action you will regret for the rest of your life, honestly. Let's just leave it at this, shall we?

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow My kids have a healthy respect for guns. They know they are loud, and have seen first hand what they can do. They have also been told what to do if someone else decides to take one out and play with it. I appreciate your concern though. Thanks. As I said, I have owned guns for over 25 years. I will say this, then we can just disagree. If a thug was to break into my house and he had a gun, I would feel very under armed with just a fireplace poker.

  • @rb2112002 Fair enough. Let's leave it here, then.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow If criminals are going to get guns either way, do you disarm people and take away the only means of defence? Who are these crazies? You disarmed an entire country (not the criminals of course) just because somebody "might" be crazy? Im starting to think that you are crazy. The stats you refer to are mostly based on "ganstas" killing each other. Who cares? The stats that do count are the ones that show honest people can defend their homes and families with guns.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow As I told you, I don't live at the UN, so I don't care about their stats. The stats in America are the only ones I care about. If everybody is a law abiding citizen to start with, then why treat them like murderers? You give up? Just answer the question, can you hurt someone with a kitchen knife? If so, why are they not banned too? Do you plan to ban everything that might be used as a weapon? Is archery equipment banned? I'm sorry you are afraid of inanimate objects.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow We take responsibility for ourselves. We don't condemn a group for the actions of a few. Apparent responsibility? I dont shoot people, hows that? My friends who all own guns don't shoot people either. Once again, you would disarm everyone but the criminals and wackos who WOULD kill people. Want to explain that smart guy? Before you go into international politics, you should know that most countries have more faith in their citizens than yours. Yes, you are a child.

  • @rb2112002 Actually, most countries have strict gun-control. Most civilised countries, anyway. I'm sure you'd make a great case in Tanzania or Myanmar, where every bastard and his dog also owns an assault rifle. You want me to explain why you have to disarm everybody? It's simple. You can't pick a gunmen or a murderer or a sociopath or a gangster out of a crowd, imbecile. For such an intelligent adult, you really do a good job of being a complete moron.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow Im more afraid of closed minded ignorant fools with computers. I think people who are so oblivious to what is going on around them (like you) should not be allowed to have an opinion. Oh yea, you were the genius that said that the govt should tell the people what to do, and not the other way around. You really showed your ignorance there. You must live in a dictatorship. If not, you should think about moving. You wont have to think, the govt will do it for you.  Child..

  • @rb2112002 lol Yeah, better watch out for that closed-minded, ignorant fool with a computer compared to the maniac with the semi-auto rifle. Who's more dangerous... quite the conundrum. I should not have an opinion? Way to go with the whole freedom thing. Glad you don't run any countries, bro. And you can check out Australia's tyrannical rule any time you want. People are a lot more free to enter Australia than your xenophobic, gun-obsessed country. Even Americans.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow I must have missed your second comment. Maybe you should find a way to keep the rifles away from the maniacs? Taking guns away from honest people sure hasnt helped. There must be a reason why people are trying so hard to get into this country. If its easy to get into Australia, its only because nobody wants to go there. As for Australia's rules, why did they take everyones (not criminals of course) guns away? What are they afraid of?

  • @rb2112002 lol Nobody wants to come here? Our immigration statistics would suggest otherwise. We have the largest Greek and British populations outside of their respective countries. I love your logic, though. You said to "Keep the rifles away from the maniacs"? That's EXACTLY what gun control is for. Unless you're some sort of superhero that can pick mass-murderers out of a crowd, the only way to keep guns away from maniacs is exactly what you've been arguing against. Thanks for seeing reason.

  • @HowDyaYouLikeMeNow I think you mised the point. You would rather punish everyone instead of coming up with an answer to the problem. Do you think there are no criminals with guns in Australia? Answer, i am dying to know how naive you really are. Why dont you run along and ban kitchen knives now. That would end all knife crimes..

  • Damn, I'm going to have to sell the majority of my firearms before I move to Chilliwack. That really sucks. I thought, the weapons I owned would be grandfathered in on a restricted license. Jeepers, where do you sell approximately 50 firearms?

  • Aboot :D

  • I totally agree, but I don't think you have to worry about the US as much. We had an "assault weapons" ban from '94 til '04 and it is long gone. It is still in place in some states, like California, but in the US states can make their own laws, but that is why I don't live there. The US has a strong gun owners class that is growing. Carry permits have doubled and more of them are women. here are some american gun guys in the US you should check out. sootch00, rugersix, and nutnfancy

  • @abraynor84 well not really, Commie California can't make a total to ban or what ever that is with the 94, they made there own little bullshit unjust ice law to try to deter-re citizens here to get guns. but sooner or later they will become too unconstitutional.

    o ya Oboma is trying to make the 94 ban perminant before his time is up, hopefully he don't do that :(

  • History proves that the biggest reason for gun registration in the past has been to know where the guns are, in the case the " government" or other power that be, decides to confiscate them. I know a lot of very responsible gun owners, and users, both American and Canadian, and believe it or not they are law abiding, stand up citizens. But, should the need arise, they will be there....with their guns.