the best way to become a great martial artist u should get a good fighting style get great at it then get a black belt in jujitsu thats wat i did but i use muay thai as a fighting style then jujitsu as my grappling i took it to the streets and i found out i can kik thug ass and then i went to toutnaments more of a challenge there
There are some low quality comments here. You have the courage to go in the ring that's good.
You lost but it's a fight, victory is always better but by losing you learn more. So never give up, i've seen your other video explaining the reasons why you lost. Don't make it such a big deal, it is just one fight and there is always somebody better than us. No use trying to be the best bcoz we can't just have fun with what you are doing.
HA!! ive seen the guy getting his ass whooped on this video before!!! he's got other videos on youtube. I generally dont like to laugh at guys who have the balls to step in the ring, but hes got like several "instructional" kickboxing videos and hes not good...at all... check him out, type in [kickboxing 101]
Fact: that taekwondo fighter should have had more room to perform some of tkd's more spectacular kicks. (tornado kick, spin back heel kick, back pierce kick) he was only able to produce the basic roundhouse with that space, shame.
fact: tkd user is also foolish for not throwing any punches. anyone can throw a right hook, except this guy.
i took korean wrestling with my tae kwon do. I'm pretty good very close range also which balances well. tae kwon do by itself is no good, and it takes a lot of energy to pull off. If you're fighting a muay thai guy, you have to keep distance with the sidekicks to the stomach or you're fucked, however, if you catch him in the face with a hurricane kick he's gone in one second.
I hope by "hollow" you're implying the kicks have no power. The back kick is one of the post powerful and the tornado (if landed on the head) draws a 92% KO rate, even in NHB.
Maybe to another TKD fighter, id like to see the KO rate on a hardened Muay Thai boxer...there in opposite ends of the scale fam..deal with it...u chose the wrong martial art...if u can call tkd a martial art..more like a sport for points...
See, I don't train TKD. I never have. I've trained Muay Thai for ninteen years and I make a living teaching here in Philly. The difference between me and you is that I realize a kick is a kick. It's all a matter of how you apply what you know. Muay Thai is worthless in the hands of a shitty fighter. People have died in TKD and boxing rings. Those "sports" have a regular death rate just like Muay Thai. Any human, no matter what the style, will go down when the jaw is broken. Get a clue.
those who cant do..teach...keep that in mind..i dont need any martial art, all i need is the way and place ive been brought up.. no fear of any one or death .. and maybe rugby to keep toughness and the mind set to win..u keep ur 19 years ill keep my 19 years of life experience behind my fist...
k4zr4> Wow. You're so great. You play rugby for your uni. Wake me up when you play for a team I've actually heard of.
The sheer arrogance/insecurity that you displayed when you 1. slammed the guy for being more informed than you and 2. when you typed "i dont need any martial art" [sic] is astounding. Kind of reminds me of Tap... I mean... TANK Abbott.
Cuz everyone knows pub fighters do so well in MMA.
Ur telling me ...in the real world where fights end in seconds ...no skill involved... a martial art is guna make u sooo much more the likely to win? im not talking about the training which creates better physical condition..becuz then i would agree with u on it...the actual art itself...if u kno how to fight..u kno how to fight if u dont then no amount of luck or confidnce is guna win it for u ....mma is a sport..fighting isnt...u fight for ur life then come tell me otherwise ...
you're ignorance blinds you matey.ive been all over the world for national rugby,and after 17 years of playing moved on to muay thai just becase of the sheer brutality and the art involved ~ k1 has helped me a shitload il tell you that, ive fought for my life on several occasions and im lucky im still here, and i thank muay thai for this.street fighters have nothing on a 2000 year old martial art =)
k4zr4, you are really quite misinformed. When you see a group of nearly 20 armed (not with knives) mifits get destroyed by a single man you start to think that maybe the martial arts did actually account for it.
It varies from fighter to fighter, one person will be amazing, the other might be terrible.
It's just stupid to say "hardened street 'bois'" are going to do so much better than a highly proficient martial artist.
"no street fighter will ever beat a highly proficient martial artist"
I know more than enough 'street fighters' that would kick the asses of wannabe martial artists into orbit. However, it's the street fighters who would get kicked into orbit when faced against a highly proficient martial artist.
And just incase any1 else is wondering, the quote was an edit of wkmatsumoto's. He had said "no street fighter will ever beat a martial artist." I wasnt talkin BS
k4zr4, you wanted him to be in fights that was for his life before he can tell you otherwise?, I've been in fights for my life, others have had knifes & I've even got a baseball bat to the knees, thus I still got problem with them. I can tell you, hands dow, if it weren't for a simple things such as boxing technique I'd be dead or at least in a wheelchair. Also I happen to have played rugby wih my coach being a former naional player for south africa if I remember it correctly.......
*national.... anyway, I know just because you're a rugby player doesn't mean you can fight, rather the opposite, I mean, I'm slow in boxing and still I'm like a superhuman compared to most props :P (nothing bad about rugby ;)... with all this said, my technique is in boxing and I know I'd get killed by something as "simple" as taekwondo even though I can put up a good fight against muay thai rookies, in my oppinion a combo of taekwondo with power punches would be dangerous as few others..
"those who can't do..teach" Yeah, tell that to Rickson Gracie, Masato, or anyone else who fights and wins. Keep those ninteen years of experience because when you speak I see what it got you. Earlier you assumed I did TKD and tried using Muay Thai as a way to ruin my faith in TKD. Then you found out I have more Muay Thai experience than you. Now you're just gonna rely on your Billy Bad Ass skills. I did three tours in Iraq so don't give me any "no fear of death" shit. Grow up dude.
Put to the street you've got a brawler vs a trained MMA fighter. Of course the MMA guy is going to win. You can watch 30 seconds of a felony fight to work that one out.
if you dont apply it to real time situations, then yes. but if you learn any style the RIGHT way, your only concern just like in a street fight will be what your oppinent is gonna do first, or if there holding a knife or worse
ok so for TKD, there are 5 colored belts; white, yellow, green, blue, red. then once you have tested out of red belt you are put into black belt class. in the black belt class there are 7 dagrees, aka Dons, 1st don being losest and 7 don being one in an elite few, this is one more don 8th don. this is the positon that was once the title of the creater of TKD, the general. so there it is..
in muay thai there is no black belt... the higher lvl belt is red. but anyway the belts are symbolic.They meen nothing.You pass the exams , you gat the belt. Also there is not better fighting style... there is better athlete !!!
Bien por el practicante de TaeKwon Do, pero en cuanto al otro... parece un luchador callejero: Donde esta la tecnica?? Su estilo?? ... No es por criticar, pero aquellos que dan golpes sin pensar dominados por su brutalidad son solo gente iniciada para recibir y dar golpes. REpito, bien por el de TKD, si se sabe controlar.
Disculpa q te responda pero... si estas peleando en la jaula, quiere decir que de hecho, ya tienes varios conocimentos de pelea de distintos tipos.. y si es tu estilo solo TKD, no deberias estar ahi
Por mi parte creo q el oponente se dio cuenta de la debilidad del otro y lo atako donde mas corresponde, asi se pelea para ganar ;)
Es tu vida la que esta en juego, hay q ser lo mas asegurado posible creo yo.. no crees tu?
Hay técnica durante todo el combate. Existe técnica MUY estricta y una disciplina que pocas artes marciales pueden igualar. El Muay Thai no es de "exhibición" como el TKD, es agresivo más que defensivo.
No te vendría mal un poquito más de información antes de comentar y calificar un arte marcial que ees obvio que desconoces.
howcome the TKD that ANDERSON SILVA utilizes in the octagon works? no single martial art alone is gonna work in MMA you obviously hafto mix it up. ofcourse a TKD fighter using tkd alone isnt gonna be all that succesful in an mma bout, but when you mix the beautiful effective elemtns of TKD with MMA shit can be ruthless, we've seen it in the cage before, unless ur a noob then i guess not. but i can understand why ppl dislike tkd so much with tournament rules like the wtf/olympic system and all.
you're right, wtf rules kind of suck and one trained to fight by those rules will be unable to take on a fight with differnt rules. this guy is wtf tkd and has no idee how to punch...itf is different, even in competitions punches to the face are allowed
It's true that Silva holds a TKD black belt, but you also have to factor in that he is also, arguably, the best Muay Thai practitioner in MMA right now. He is also a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Blackbelt.
In the end, Silva is a Mixed Martial Artist, not just a taekwondo fighter, not just a Thai boxer, and not just a grappler.
In a number of Japanese arts such as jujutsu and judo, Red belts are given to high ranking black belts. The highest ranking black belts receive red and white striped belts.
TKD isnt japanese, n neither is muay thai....i do believe TKD does have belts, even in Korea, cuz i read somewhere that the N.Korean army teaches blackbelt of the first degree to all soldiers.
white - yellow - green - blue - red - black in TKD (ITF). If you ment that TKD doesn't have the red/white striped belt, then I'm sorry I missunderstood you, thought you were talking about ranks in general.
Anderson Silva utilizes zero tkd in his fights. The guy on the video was triying to use tkd in a kickboxing style of fighting. i guess he learn the hard way that tkd doesn't work well in this type of fight.
That is EXACTLY TKD, but like md65000 says, "TKD is pretty worthless (at least for the average figther)"
And probably he is a great TKD guy... but you can't kill him sending to figth whit a Thai figther (but he really was a Kickboxer) because it's gonna be a murder.
ok that is not mauy Thai ot TKD at all, i dont konw why you posted that, but just because they say TKD and the other man stands almost what a muay thai fighter might stand does not mean they use those practices, these guys just punch and kick for a fight.
TKD has many strengths like all martial arts. It's just most TKD fighters never try anything else out for some reason so most of them dont know how to fight against other styles
thats a very true statement. i do tkd and only tkd but imma start learning some bjj and boxing i do itf tkd by the way. they're rules in these organzied fights and in real fight there are no rules.
Ya, the TKD guy was probably doing WTF TKD. WTF guys aren't taught how to punch to the head which sucks. ITF TKD owns because they actually do punches.
but if you realy watch this guy didnt use anything he was trained too,he just clobbered him like the hulk,i honestly feel thats the problem wen america 'americanises'other cultural aspects,americans are known for being 'grumpy,and sloppy' at some points,im a traditionalist so personaly its all about the basics and this guy looks like he still needs work in his basics
io nella vita quotidiana pratico muay thay e ci posso garantire che è una delle migliori arti marziali del pianeta. se si vuole essere completi sulla lotta in piedi bisogna requentare assolutamente un corso di thai..ma se si vuole eccellere anche nella lotta a terra bisogna assolutamente provare jujitsu e chissà...magari mischiare un pò il tutto
The winner was most likely MT but all he did was wail on him with punches. Any boxer could of done that. Too bad no one taught the TKD dude how to throw punches. Good job MT guy.
the fighter with more core strength wins. He can be an idiot without much skill and he'll still win if the strength difference is significant. It's a lot easier to be heavier than more skilled. So fighting tends to prove hormone levels, natural or otherwise. Not much else.
tkd guy has no stamina weak upper body n is scared shit. y on earth wld u b throwin slappin kicks @ sum1 wit upper body strength. he needs 2 go back 2 skl
biggest reason why tkd gets shit on the most--there's just a hell of a lot of shitty tkd fighters, because it's such a common martial art. there's no shortage of good tkd fighters, just a surplus of shitty ones.
also, WTF tkd and ATA tkd are a lot more sport-based. ITF is harder hitting. so there's that.
Uhh, most ITF sparring is not full-contact, and you'll get penalties for hitting too hard or knock outs.
I'd say WTF is far more harder hitting, of course the lack of close combat punching defense is definately where WTF TKD fails in such a match. ( I reckon so anyway)
having trained in both, i can tell you that the majority of training in wtf taekwondo is focused on sparring techniques--hitting the opponent whenever possible to earn points--and focuses very little on improving actual strength.
i won't debate that ITF sparring is full-contact, but training in an ITF school results in more powerful (if not quite as quick) kicks.
also, ITF schools devote more time to the upper body than does WTF, resulting in more effectively developed punching/grappling techniques (yes, tkd training [at least ITF] involves a good amount of grappling and throws... but those don't visibly distinguish the style and thus, nobody thinks of grappling when they think of TKD).
I've only done ITF for about 4 and a half years. I say only because the guy I've been doing a bit of training with has been doing WTF for 15 years, although focused only on sparring after the first dan. His kicks have crap technique (he agrees, in comparison to mine) but the power and speed of his kicks are insane!
But yes, I'll agree that ITF does do a lot of upper body training, but I haven't done any throws or what I would consider grappling. What throw/grappling you talking about?
We do throws and grappling from time to time and we have an occasional mma fight at our tkd ITF club. But I'm not sure it's like that in other clubs. The main thing you gotta learn is sparring is COMPLETELY different than street fighting. Example: the kicks the tkd guy through here. Anywayz, everyone's gotta agree on this with me that it eventually comes down to the practitioner and he's own capabilities. Doesn't matter which martial art you practice but how you practice it. Take care all !
"Anywayz, everyone's gotta agree on this with me that it eventually comes down to the practitioner and he's own capabilities. Doesn't matter which martial art you practice but how you practice it."
You guys need to stop hating until you step into the cage. He had less experience and weighed less, and got beat, but he had the balls to post this. Lol.
you can tell the taekwondo guy is very simply a shitty fighter. no matter what art you do, you've got to distribute--the most common mistake of tkd artists is to ignore the upper body, which this guy clearly did. that's also incidentally his opponent's strength, as you can see the muy thai guy relying a lot more on his punches than on the famous muy thai kicks, because the punches more effectively fuck up the tkd dude's weak upper body game.
well I know a guy from thailand in exchange to norway, and he used to train muay thai, and he said that muay thai was mostly knees and elbows.... I don't watch many boxing/mma fights, but I've seen a few muay movies, and they had veeery many elbows and knees... is that right or wring?
well that totally depends... that guy had noooo power what so ever! the other guy was more aggressive as well.. you cannot base your opinion on this fight! the cage was small as well not benifiting the tkd guys kicking style!
tkd is great because it helps streghthen your kicks and punches. the muy thai dude in this fight just threw wild punches while the TKD just took it (big mistake). TKD dude should have done the same back but try to be more accurate with his kicks. a TKD kick to the head would have knocked him out.
Muay Thai has more power than TKD. TKD doesnt really emphasize defense and punches. Only fancy kicks. Keep looking at Muay Thai vs TKD fights on here and you can see what I mean
i understand where you're coming from, but this the MT dude just threw wild punches (anybody can do that). he's obviously spend some time on the punching bag and lifting weights. what am saying is TKD does about the same and maybe not so much strength training if you go to the wrong school. i've seen the different fights among tkd and other martial martial arts, but my objection would be the approach the tkd dudes are taking. sometime you have to fight at the speed of your opponent.
Thats only the World Tkd Federation style of TKD...the ITF is more effective and completely differant...WTF TKD is based on points sparring and is used in the olympics...and therefore needed to be severely watered down in power, technique and number of kicks...
lol i like pulling off fancy kicks,,, lol .. haha but re- tae kwon do is shit their is no contact at all in the re training,,, but i do ITF. lol bcuz i cant stand re
I do TKD and i think that the reason you think TKD is just fancy kicks is because people try to use the fancy kicks (which are mostly for forms) in actual fights instead of sticking to the basics which are very effective.
Which TKD forms do you do? The WTF forms only use the following basic kicks: front kick, side kick, and roundhouse. All other strikes in the forms are hand techniques.
mmmm the tkd is good but not efective for the fight ! the win depend more the fighter and not the tecnique, example, in mexico are good in boxing, judo, tkd and karate bur is for his caracter and personality.
the best way to become a great martial artist u should get a good fighting style get great at it then get a black belt in jujitsu thats wat i did but i use muay thai as a fighting style then jujitsu as my grappling i took it to the streets and i found out i can kik thug ass and then i went to toutnaments more of a challenge there
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TheDarkPrince124 2 years ago
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Did you pay for Muay Thai and Jujitsu classes, or learn another way?
TheDarkPrince124 2 years ago
im more fit for muay thai. but there is no dojang around here for that. so i stick with the secound best tkd.
coolcanman69 2 years ago
wtf i cant read it
turkomur0000 2 years ago
technique had nothing to do with this fight. Jeff Moody just swing for the fences and happened to land.
Wiking99 2 years ago
There are some low quality comments here. You have the courage to go in the ring that's good.
You lost but it's a fight, victory is always better but by losing you learn more. So never give up, i've seen your other video explaining the reasons why you lost. Don't make it such a big deal, it is just one fight and there is always somebody better than us. No use trying to be the best bcoz we can't just have fun with what you are doing.
beeeeeeerkXD 2 years ago
Generic MuayThai by Farangs, who were not appreciated the true value of MuayThai; Its only another way to make money.
JayVeera1 2 years ago
this is kickbox,...
aaateam111 2 years ago
HA!! ive seen the guy getting his ass whooped on this video before!!! he's got other videos on youtube. I generally dont like to laugh at guys who have the balls to step in the ring, but hes got like several "instructional" kickboxing videos and hes not good...at all... check him out, type in [kickboxing 101]
sagmann20 2 years ago
no elbows, pff ;)
szymaq 2 years ago
Fact: that taekwondo fighter should have had more room to perform some of tkd's more spectacular kicks. (tornado kick, spin back heel kick, back pierce kick) he was only able to produce the basic roundhouse with that space, shame.
fact: tkd user is also foolish for not throwing any punches. anyone can throw a right hook, except this guy.
Simonyboy 2 years ago
fact: "spectacular kicks" dont work in real fighting situations
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beeeeeeerkXD 2 years ago
"spectacular kicks" are for little ballet dancers not fighters lol
mlc34932 2 years ago
i took korean wrestling with my tae kwon do. I'm pretty good very close range also which balances well. tae kwon do by itself is no good, and it takes a lot of energy to pull off. If you're fighting a muay thai guy, you have to keep distance with the sidekicks to the stomach or you're fucked, however, if you catch him in the face with a hurricane kick he's gone in one second.
mangodealer 2 years ago
taekwondo is a good martial art but that's no story versus muay thai
IvanEdgy 2 years ago 2
im glad SOMEONE can at least say that instead of completly dissing the style all together
pkphantom 2 years ago
tkd is a good sports not martial arts. tkd is good against tkd. but to other martial arts, they sucks! kicks are too hollow.
rexbons 2 years ago
I hope by "hollow" you're implying the kicks have no power. The back kick is one of the post powerful and the tornado (if landed on the head) draws a 92% KO rate, even in NHB.
phillydecapitator 2 years ago
Maybe to another TKD fighter, id like to see the KO rate on a hardened Muay Thai boxer...there in opposite ends of the scale fam..deal with it...u chose the wrong martial art...if u can call tkd a martial art..more like a sport for points...
k4zr4 2 years ago
See, I don't train TKD. I never have. I've trained Muay Thai for ninteen years and I make a living teaching here in Philly. The difference between me and you is that I realize a kick is a kick. It's all a matter of how you apply what you know. Muay Thai is worthless in the hands of a shitty fighter. People have died in TKD and boxing rings. Those "sports" have a regular death rate just like Muay Thai. Any human, no matter what the style, will go down when the jaw is broken. Get a clue.
phillydecapitator 2 years ago 3
those who cant do..teach...keep that in mind..i dont need any martial art, all i need is the way and place ive been brought up.. no fear of any one or death .. and maybe rugby to keep toughness and the mind set to win..u keep ur 19 years ill keep my 19 years of life experience behind my fist...
k4zr4 2 years ago
k4zr4> Nice. You insult a guy, he points out that you have him figured wrong and then you top it off with a steaming pile of trash talk.
I would L-O-V-E to meet you in a ruck, son.
pissedpookie 2 years ago
come ruck me over if u can, i play lose head prop for my uni.. please try ur best fam! pfft
k4zr4 2 years ago
k4zr4> Wow. You're so great. You play rugby for your uni. Wake me up when you play for a team I've actually heard of.
The sheer arrogance/insecurity that you displayed when you 1. slammed the guy for being more informed than you and 2. when you typed "i dont need any martial art" [sic] is astounding. Kind of reminds me of Tap... I mean... TANK Abbott.
Cuz everyone knows pub fighters do so well in MMA.
pissedpookie 2 years ago
Ur telling me ...in the real world where fights end in seconds ...no skill involved... a martial art is guna make u sooo much more the likely to win? im not talking about the training which creates better physical condition..becuz then i would agree with u on it...the actual art itself...if u kno how to fight..u kno how to fight if u dont then no amount of luck or confidnce is guna win it for u ....mma is a sport..fighting isnt...u fight for ur life then come tell me otherwise ...
k4zr4 2 years ago
you're ignorance blinds you matey.ive been all over the world for national rugby,and after 17 years of playing moved on to muay thai just becase of the sheer brutality and the art involved ~ k1 has helped me a shitload il tell you that, ive fought for my life on several occasions and im lucky im still here, and i thank muay thai for this.street fighters have nothing on a 2000 year old martial art =)
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toxicwtf 2 years ago
k4zr4, you are really quite misinformed. When you see a group of nearly 20 armed (not with knives) mifits get destroyed by a single man you start to think that maybe the martial arts did actually account for it.
It varies from fighter to fighter, one person will be amazing, the other might be terrible.
It's just stupid to say "hardened street 'bois'" are going to do so much better than a highly proficient martial artist.
MattTheGiant 2 years ago
no street fighter will ever beat a martial artist.
wkmatsumoto 2 years ago
U made a mistake
"no street fighter will ever beat a highly proficient martial artist"
I know more than enough 'street fighters' that would kick the asses of wannabe martial artists into orbit. However, it's the street fighters who would get kicked into orbit when faced against a highly proficient martial artist.
MattTheGiant 2 years ago
And just incase any1 else is wondering, the quote was an edit of wkmatsumoto's. He had said "no street fighter will ever beat a martial artist." I wasnt talkin BS
MattTheGiant 2 years ago
lol what?
a street fighter is someone who just fights in the street with no educated strikes
how is it possible for one to beat a martial artist, someone who has trained in fighting??
hardpunk10101 2 years ago
thats what i said to
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k4zr4, you wanted him to be in fights that was for his life before he can tell you otherwise?, I've been in fights for my life, others have had knifes & I've even got a baseball bat to the knees, thus I still got problem with them. I can tell you, hands dow, if it weren't for a simple things such as boxing technique I'd be dead or at least in a wheelchair. Also I happen to have played rugby wih my coach being a former naional player for south africa if I remember it correctly.......
toxicwtf 2 years ago
*national.... anyway, I know just because you're a rugby player doesn't mean you can fight, rather the opposite, I mean, I'm slow in boxing and still I'm like a superhuman compared to most props :P (nothing bad about rugby ;)... with all this said, my technique is in boxing and I know I'd get killed by something as "simple" as taekwondo even though I can put up a good fight against muay thai rookies, in my oppinion a combo of taekwondo with power punches would be dangerous as few others..
toxicwtf 2 years ago
"those who can't do..teach" Yeah, tell that to Rickson Gracie, Masato, or anyone else who fights and wins. Keep those ninteen years of experience because when you speak I see what it got you. Earlier you assumed I did TKD and tried using Muay Thai as a way to ruin my faith in TKD. Then you found out I have more Muay Thai experience than you. Now you're just gonna rely on your Billy Bad Ass skills. I did three tours in Iraq so don't give me any "no fear of death" shit. Grow up dude.
phillydecapitator 2 years ago 3
You did him like an absolute bastard.
Put to the street you've got a brawler vs a trained MMA fighter. Of course the MMA guy is going to win. You can watch 30 seconds of a felony fight to work that one out.
ZeroMalarki 2 years ago
this is stupid....
TKD is designed for real fight or killing.
it is not fit for such a small place like cage.
TKD requires more space just like real world.
in real fight, all you need is just one shot. that is it.
real good TKD kick and one good pucch... which one do you think can knock you out?
igottakillthemall 2 years ago
definitely punch
srem0 2 years ago
tkd fails in any fight situation that isn't for points.....
hoboguru 2 years ago
if you dont apply it to real time situations, then yes. but if you learn any style the RIGHT way, your only concern just like in a street fight will be what your oppinent is gonna do first, or if there holding a knife or worse
pkphantom 2 years ago
u dont know shit
maceioninjutsu 2 years ago
tkd dosn't prepare you well for punches which is why the guy got beat down so fast.
teamventure09 3 years ago
All I have to say is that's a tiny fucking cage
johhnyflame 3 years ago
HA HA ABOUT 2 miles too wee for me
CHANNELOMD 3 years ago
there is no belts in muay thai like there is in karate. The only belts you'll earn in muay thai are championship belts, similar to boxing.
chronicslave 3 years ago 2
ok so for TKD, there are 5 colored belts; white, yellow, green, blue, red. then once you have tested out of red belt you are put into black belt class. in the black belt class there are 7 dagrees, aka Dons, 1st don being losest and 7 don being one in an elite few, this is one more don 8th don. this is the positon that was once the title of the creater of TKD, the general. so there it is..
skibum324 3 years ago
tkd sucks
maceioninjutsu 2 years ago 2
in muay thai there is no black belt... the higher lvl belt is red. but anyway the belts are symbolic.They meen nothing.You pass the exams , you gat the belt. Also there is not better fighting style... there is better athlete !!!
alxd25 3 years ago
Bien por el practicante de TaeKwon Do, pero en cuanto al otro... parece un luchador callejero: Donde esta la tecnica?? Su estilo?? ... No es por criticar, pero aquellos que dan golpes sin pensar dominados por su brutalidad son solo gente iniciada para recibir y dar golpes. REpito, bien por el de TKD, si se sabe controlar.
Alexblc 3 years ago
Disculpa q te responda pero... si estas peleando en la jaula, quiere decir que de hecho, ya tienes varios conocimentos de pelea de distintos tipos.. y si es tu estilo solo TKD, no deberias estar ahi
Por mi parte creo q el oponente se dio cuenta de la debilidad del otro y lo atako donde mas corresponde, asi se pelea para ganar ;)
Es tu vida la que esta en juego, hay q ser lo mas asegurado posible creo yo.. no crees tu?
bandoler0s 3 years ago
Y por eso acabó molido a golpes.
Hay técnica durante todo el combate. Existe técnica MUY estricta y una disciplina que pocas artes marciales pueden igualar. El Muay Thai no es de "exhibición" como el TKD, es agresivo más que defensivo.
No te vendría mal un poquito más de información antes de comentar y calificar un arte marcial que ees obvio que desconoces.
Saludos.
DoktorZinieztro 3 years ago
Where are those beautifully useless kicks learned in TKD??? I dont see any lolz
SinclairCeltics1990 3 years ago
jajaja puro gringo aqui XD
blah blah blah
=P ntc gringos los quiero jajaja
esta buena la pelea parecen pitbulls
byee
cobrackcu2008 3 years ago
lol kid, 0:23 'little' taekwondo kick.. the commentators were laughing at u dude..
pepsi89 3 years ago
looks more like 2 boxers that are allowed to kick here and there..
iddpki 3 years ago
this aint thai boxing this pratt would get slorterd in thailand he wouldnt last a round !
ehead2222 3 years ago
fogot to finish so u cant purely judge whos a better fighter when u incoprate ne type of rules.
iluvjilly2112 3 years ago
looks like gay porn
MechaRadio 3 years ago
lol. failtroll is fail...
mctroll89 3 years ago
nice to meet you, failtroll
MechaRadio 3 years ago
TKD or TKO?
comoxj 3 years ago
It's actually TKO :)
SinclairCeltics1990 3 years ago
A TKO would be a technical knock out, meaning the referee would stop the contest for one reason or another. This was an actual KO, not a TKO.
balletman 3 years ago
Oh sorry for misunderstanding you XD But I think it's a joke from Mr. comoxj that said TKD or TKO because Tae Kwon Do sucks.
SinclairCeltics1990 3 years ago
howcome the TKD that ANDERSON SILVA utilizes in the octagon works? no single martial art alone is gonna work in MMA you obviously hafto mix it up. ofcourse a TKD fighter using tkd alone isnt gonna be all that succesful in an mma bout, but when you mix the beautiful effective elemtns of TKD with MMA shit can be ruthless, we've seen it in the cage before, unless ur a noob then i guess not. but i can understand why ppl dislike tkd so much with tournament rules like the wtf/olympic system and all.
frost310 3 years ago
you're right, wtf rules kind of suck and one trained to fight by those rules will be unable to take on a fight with differnt rules. this guy is wtf tkd and has no idee how to punch...itf is different, even in competitions punches to the face are allowed
rauldeva 3 years ago
It's true that Silva holds a TKD black belt, but you also have to factor in that he is also, arguably, the best Muay Thai practitioner in MMA right now. He is also a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Blackbelt.
In the end, Silva is a Mixed Martial Artist, not just a taekwondo fighter, not just a Thai boxer, and not just a grappler.
balletman 3 years ago
highest ranking is red belt no?
silverobot 3 years ago
in tkd, black is after red. at least in ITF, i'm sure thats what we learnt...
veshkeat 3 years ago
talking bout muay thai i read it somewhere that red is above black
silverobot 3 years ago
In a number of Japanese arts such as jujutsu and judo, Red belts are given to high ranking black belts. The highest ranking black belts receive red and white striped belts.
Those ranks don't exist in TKD and Muay Thai.
balletman 3 years ago
TKD isnt japanese, n neither is muay thai....i do believe TKD does have belts, even in Korea, cuz i read somewhere that the N.Korean army teaches blackbelt of the first degree to all soldiers.
veshkeat 3 years ago
No one said that TKD was Japanese.
Obviously, TKD has belts. No one said otherwise.
The question was regarding the rank placement of the TKD red belt. Read the previous posts.
balletman 3 years ago
white - yellow - green - blue - red - black in TKD (ITF). If you ment that TKD doesn't have the red/white striped belt, then I'm sorry I missunderstood you, thought you were talking about ranks in general.
veshkeat 3 years ago
didnt think muay thai had belts at all
veshkeat 3 years ago
There are no belts in Muay Thai.
balletman 3 years ago
ty for clearing it up didnt know
silverobot 2 years ago
Anderson Silva utilizes zero tkd in his fights. The guy on the video was triying to use tkd in a kickboxing style of fighting. i guess he learn the hard way that tkd doesn't work well in this type of fight.
p.s. i practice wtk tkd
fisica75 3 years ago
i train in mma but i like the tkd kicks eg turning kicks 360 back kicks do u think i should take up tkd also
ThePunchinPeacemaker 3 years ago
Sure, why not? Ther might come a time in the cage where you opponent is open to one such heck of a kick...
Rememeber: Every technique is a weapon, and every weapon counts.
DoktorZinieztro 3 years ago
yeh i dont really like the mma kicks i prefer the tkd kicks well executed
ThePunchinPeacemaker 3 years ago
The TKD guy is weaker in strength
chancedaily2 3 years ago
hey hairy chest.. you suck!
VATOSLOCOSUTH 3 years ago
Hahahaha!!!! I actually laughed really loud when I read this one... Hairy chest.... hahahaha!!!
balletman 3 years ago
I didn't see anything resembling TKD in this clip. Probably a good thing because TKD is pretty worthless (at least for the average fighter)
md65000 3 years ago
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mmmtkd 3 years ago
That is EXACTLY TKD, but like md65000 says, "TKD is pretty worthless (at least for the average figther)"
And probably he is a great TKD guy... but you can't kill him sending to figth whit a Thai figther (but he really was a Kickboxer) because it's gonna be a murder.
kaosk90 3 years ago
It's exactly TKD. :S
kaosk90 3 years ago
ok that is not mauy Thai ot TKD at all, i dont konw why you posted that, but just because they say TKD and the other man stands almost what a muay thai fighter might stand does not mean they use those practices, these guys just punch and kick for a fight.
aussyt 3 years ago
Actually it was a Kickboxer beating up (like almost always) a TKD guy.
kaosk90 3 years ago
TKD has many strengths like all martial arts. It's just most TKD fighters never try anything else out for some reason so most of them dont know how to fight against other styles
benjeans 3 years ago
thats a very true statement. i do tkd and only tkd but imma start learning some bjj and boxing i do itf tkd by the way. they're rules in these organzied fights and in real fight there are no rules.
iluvjilly2112 3 years ago
A poor match up, the winner was clearly a much better fighter. What does this prove?
badmofker 3 years ago
no elbows=no muay thai
chimaera1855 3 years ago
why you hit your brother so hard, now kiss and make up
810Z 3 years ago 2
bullshit street fight, gogo USA
jinmudrakona 3 years ago
that was just a brawl lol......and is it just me or is that quite a smal cage?
adrenalinejunkie93 3 years ago 3
do u call the TKD ? omg ! that guy sucks hard !
drksniper94 3 years ago
thats 100% not muaithai
NeonKidz 3 years ago
i agree totally
aussyt 3 years ago
simplemente hermoso arriba el muay thai
TamazLoca 3 years ago
That is not Taekwondo -.- It was only a Taekwondo Dollyo Chagi -.-
rashedthebest 3 years ago
man these fights just seem sloppy
Hyde1415 3 years ago
Ya, the TKD guy was probably doing WTF TKD. WTF guys aren't taught how to punch to the head which sucks. ITF TKD owns because they actually do punches.
masamune702 3 years ago
lol,respects to any martial artist.
but if you realy watch this guy didnt use anything he was trained too,he just clobbered him like the hulk,i honestly feel thats the problem wen america 'americanises'other cultural aspects,americans are known for being 'grumpy,and sloppy' at some points,im a traditionalist so personaly its all about the basics and this guy looks like he still needs work in his basics
hadouken138 3 years ago
io nella vita quotidiana pratico muay thay e ci posso garantire che è una delle migliori arti marziali del pianeta. se si vuole essere completi sulla lotta in piedi bisogna requentare assolutamente un corso di thai..ma se si vuole eccellere anche nella lotta a terra bisogna assolutamente provare jujitsu e chissà...magari mischiare un pò il tutto
bloodjon 3 years ago
poor tkd instructor
yin0625 3 years ago
The winner was most likely MT but all he did was wail on him with punches. Any boxer could of done that. Too bad no one taught the TKD dude how to throw punches. Good job MT guy.
tman229 3 years ago
MUAY THAI ROCKS!!! XD
SinclairCeltics1990 3 years ago
bahh, where the feck is the skill in this?!
two fags just pounding the shit out of each other~boring
eroticfish 3 years ago
The taibokser wins easilly in a cage.
the ring is smaller than where the taekwondo people train. So the tkd people will always lose in a ring or cage I think.
Hawkturqoise 3 years ago
WTF (what the fuck) TKD is garbage point sparring.
supposedly itf is much better but I havent experienced that.
did 5 years of wtf as a kid and didnt learn much, Im glad I switched to muay thai.
mjfan123085 3 years ago
the fighter with more core strength wins. He can be an idiot without much skill and he'll still win if the strength difference is significant. It's a lot easier to be heavier than more skilled. So fighting tends to prove hormone levels, natural or otherwise. Not much else.
momentinpassing 3 years ago
palizon
txosue26 3 years ago
owned
leogoblin 3 years ago
I couldn´t see any Muay Thai Fighter.
EP126HD 3 years ago
the guy aint tkd his just a normal kickboxer that cant fight or kick
southbest05 3 years ago
if he was a kick boxer he would have thrown punches instead of backing into a corner
9browny0 3 years ago
gaylords
BacheKhala 3 years ago
these gaylords would one-hit KO you...
Nameless742 3 years ago
ur right they could hit me KO. anyway I would not kno wat to do in that situation. I might run away...Lool
I wanted to say the tkd-fighter looks damn skinny gay
BacheKhala 3 years ago
he can read your comments the skinny guy is the owner of this account and posted this video. lol
ERIKTHECOP 3 years ago
hehehe thatswhy his nick is balletman
BacheKhala 3 years ago
I'd probably run away too.
Most fighting experience I've had is with my older brother...
Nameless742 3 years ago
i havent seen a tkd man beat a thai boxer yet
OiYouSlag 3 years ago
tkd guy has no stamina weak upper body n is scared shit. y on earth wld u b throwin slappin kicks @ sum1 wit upper body strength. he needs 2 go back 2 skl
POLEEZE 3 years ago
red gloves is a fag
bebu1973 3 years ago
fuck tkd its all abt muay thai
anton5hines 3 years ago
TKD is just show, nothing for serious action
robertpausch1979 3 years ago
TKD is serious shit lol.....I'm sorry had a few beers at the pub tonight but TKD is what I studied my whole life.
RIPmyers 3 years ago
biggest reason why tkd gets shit on the most--there's just a hell of a lot of shitty tkd fighters, because it's such a common martial art. there's no shortage of good tkd fighters, just a surplus of shitty ones.
also, WTF tkd and ATA tkd are a lot more sport-based. ITF is harder hitting. so there's that.
a good tkd can go up against a good muy thai.
neokimchi 3 years ago
ITF is harder hitting?
Uhh, most ITF sparring is not full-contact, and you'll get penalties for hitting too hard or knock outs.
I'd say WTF is far more harder hitting, of course the lack of close combat punching defense is definately where WTF TKD fails in such a match. ( I reckon so anyway)
KT
FakePlasticTreeFace 3 years ago
having trained in both, i can tell you that the majority of training in wtf taekwondo is focused on sparring techniques--hitting the opponent whenever possible to earn points--and focuses very little on improving actual strength.
i won't debate that ITF sparring is full-contact, but training in an ITF school results in more powerful (if not quite as quick) kicks.
neokimchi 3 years ago
also, ITF schools devote more time to the upper body than does WTF, resulting in more effectively developed punching/grappling techniques (yes, tkd training [at least ITF] involves a good amount of grappling and throws... but those don't visibly distinguish the style and thus, nobody thinks of grappling when they think of TKD).
neokimchi 3 years ago
I've only done ITF for about 4 and a half years. I say only because the guy I've been doing a bit of training with has been doing WTF for 15 years, although focused only on sparring after the first dan. His kicks have crap technique (he agrees, in comparison to mine) but the power and speed of his kicks are insane!
But yes, I'll agree that ITF does do a lot of upper body training, but I haven't done any throws or what I would consider grappling. What throw/grappling you talking about?
KT
FakePlasticTreeFace 3 years ago
We do throws and grappling from time to time and we have an occasional mma fight at our tkd ITF club. But I'm not sure it's like that in other clubs. The main thing you gotta learn is sparring is COMPLETELY different than street fighting. Example: the kicks the tkd guy through here. Anywayz, everyone's gotta agree on this with me that it eventually comes down to the practitioner and he's own capabilities. Doesn't matter which martial art you practice but how you practice it. Take care all !
vrchacho 3 years ago
"Anywayz, everyone's gotta agree on this with me that it eventually comes down to the practitioner and he's own capabilities. Doesn't matter which martial art you practice but how you practice it."
Heeeeeeeell yeah.
KT
FakePlasticTreeFace 3 years ago
Also has a a lot to do with the factor of.... "Who wants to win bad enough?"
As my dad always told me growing up...if you wana win a fight you have to learn to "get aggressive enough quick enough"
BearBaylor69 3 years ago
you cannot kick at close range and be effective which is why TKD fails against most other styles
454545046 3 years ago
tkd arent meant for cages
jonkim015 3 years ago
haha, fuck that TKD shit. Iz all about muay thai.
JacobArrowood465 3 years ago
You guys need to stop hating until you step into the cage. He had less experience and weighed less, and got beat, but he had the balls to post this. Lol.
JesseSpohn 3 years ago 2
it's not the art..it's the person. I've seen matches go the other way. It's what you do with what you know.
talkfan 3 years ago 4
you can tell the taekwondo guy is very simply a shitty fighter. no matter what art you do, you've got to distribute--the most common mistake of tkd artists is to ignore the upper body, which this guy clearly did. that's also incidentally his opponent's strength, as you can see the muy thai guy relying a lot more on his punches than on the famous muy thai kicks, because the punches more effectively fuck up the tkd dude's weak upper body game.
neokimchi 3 years ago
without elbows.. well I thought muay thay was 50% elbows and knees..
TraceurForLife 3 years ago
Watch any Thai boxing match and count the number of elbows and knees vs the number of punches and kicks.
balletman 3 years ago
well I know a guy from thailand in exchange to norway, and he used to train muay thai, and he said that muay thai was mostly knees and elbows.... I don't watch many boxing/mma fights, but I've seen a few muay movies, and they had veeery many elbows and knees... is that right or wring?
TraceurForLife 3 years ago
It's rediculous .. which one is TKD and which is Muay Thai...
zangsooo 3 years ago
That comment was ridiculous. It tells you who is who right on the screen AND in the video description.
balletman 3 years ago
the TKD instructor was bad at TKD and just a bad fighter overall...
what the hell was he trying to accomplish by kicking 4 times in a row? sad... dude needs to pick up some boxing or something....
ghostscribble 3 years ago
Tell me in all honestly if the average black belt TKD instructor would do any better.
balletman 3 years ago
well that totally depends... that guy had noooo power what so ever! the other guy was more aggressive as well.. you cannot base your opinion on this fight! the cage was small as well not benifiting the tkd guys kicking style!
kaylum69 3 years ago
how come when theres a "Vs" match between 2 martial arts, one or both of the fighters is shit?
TorquenaGeilt 3 years ago
I wouldn't call the other fighter a Muay Thai fighter, his execution was poor. Anyone could knock out the TKD fighter.
caringandkilling 3 years ago
Muay thai without elbows is like boxing with no hooks. laaaame
SourOwl 3 years ago
wtf was that sissy kicks, the tkd had no effect the muay thai fighter...
1o2o3e 3 years ago
they look to jumpy, little concentration while executing shitty moves.
skyline777 3 years ago
Lol i did re and got bored cuz it was same thing then i saw itf much better aye...
And also bit of a size difference in that fight
woldod 3 years ago
whats the TKD guy doing there..suicide?
wuranma 3 years ago
that guy doesnt know KTD lol
how could he kick like that lol
dlrPals 3 years ago
tkd is great because it helps streghthen your kicks and punches. the muy thai dude in this fight just threw wild punches while the TKD just took it (big mistake). TKD dude should have done the same back but try to be more accurate with his kicks. a TKD kick to the head would have knocked him out.
chingon711 3 years ago
Muay Thai has more power than TKD. TKD doesnt really emphasize defense and punches. Only fancy kicks. Keep looking at Muay Thai vs TKD fights on here and you can see what I mean
skudsoldier1 3 years ago
i understand where you're coming from, but this the MT dude just threw wild punches (anybody can do that). he's obviously spend some time on the punching bag and lifting weights. what am saying is TKD does about the same and maybe not so much strength training if you go to the wrong school. i've seen the different fights among tkd and other martial martial arts, but my objection would be the approach the tkd dudes are taking. sometime you have to fight at the speed of your opponent.
chingon711 3 years ago
Thats only the World Tkd Federation style of TKD...the ITF is more effective and completely differant...WTF TKD is based on points sparring and is used in the olympics...and therefore needed to be severely watered down in power, technique and number of kicks...
anthonyr1 3 years ago
lol i like pulling off fancy kicks,,, lol .. haha but re- tae kwon do is shit their is no contact at all in the re training,,, but i do ITF. lol bcuz i cant stand re
taylordc13 3 years ago
I do TKD and i think that the reason you think TKD is just fancy kicks is because people try to use the fancy kicks (which are mostly for forms) in actual fights instead of sticking to the basics which are very effective.
GingerSkate7 3 years ago
Which TKD forms do you do? The WTF forms only use the following basic kicks: front kick, side kick, and roundhouse. All other strikes in the forms are hand techniques.
balletman 3 years ago
I do Jhoon Thee tae kwon do
GingerSkate7 3 years ago
mmmm the tkd is good but not efective for the fight ! the win depend more the fighter and not the tecnique, example, in mexico are good in boxing, judo, tkd and karate bur is for his caracter and personality.
Hongoxxxx 3 years ago