Creation of the Universe (facts and figures) part 2 of 3

[AKATHE1LEGEND]

lol what a bullshit video .. lmao

[millyybabess]

Haha this is the biggest load of shit I've ever heard! Piss of all you 'Allah' worshipping dickheads

[sougha63]

this video is true allah created the heavens and earth when we all dies you will get punished

[glynbo68]

Load of bollocks! fuckin quran. same as all other religons they hold humanity back.

[slicingwater]

According to Stephen Hawking world famous physicist, god is not needed for the creation of the Universe.

[TheNovaAxon]

Yeah Right....

This means that at some point you are right, but on the other hand its complete crap! How can you flex the truth to this point....

This is why religion causes more missery than freedom, joy of life and respect to others... THINK!

[abuhafidz402]

subhanallah

[postme12]

Sigh, just sigh...

Why didnt the koran say anything but vague falsities,.. sigh

[HELLT0RCH]

what, no 3rd part?

[staddik]

ahhlalalalalalalalalalalala

[saturninenight]

Just get bored with "God" already. I'm sure he would appreciate it.

[evilpleasure69]

god is a lie

[errskin]

reading quotes out of a book is not fact. reading quotes then finding something to support those quotes is not research. research is taking ALL the information and making logical conclusions, not picking some things out and twisting them to fit a presupposed beleif.

[Sjarke98]

Forgetting that matter is eternal?? The universe did not come from nothing - it has always existed...

Why put an eternal God into the picture, when we know that the universe itself is eternal??

[TheJahMann]

what do you mean matter is eternal? if matter is eternal what about you who is matter, are you eternal? did you even thing twice before saying this

[Sjarke98]

The atoms I am built up of can never be destroyed... When I die the atoms will stay in this world... If I'm burned, they will build up ash and smoke etc...

Atoms are like legos... You can take me apart, but by building blocks are still there...

Did you open a science book before asking me this stupid question??

[TheJahMann]

only retards lean on science, but I don't, I did not need to open any book writen by retards inorder to ask such a striving question to some body who misunderstands his origin

[Sjarke98]

Uuuuh duh you opened the Bible...

[TheJahMann]

of cause the knowledge came from God's Holy Book, because He is the source of Wisdom, and from Him wisdom originated, and wisdom is besides him at all times, he also shares wisdom to those who seack for it, there is more to it, if you like I can instruct you on more hidden stuff.  "peace" yo

[Sjarke98]

Let me summon up some of Gods knowledge given in the bible Men can live inside whales, walk on water, creatures with 7 heads exist, a virgin can give birth, the earth is 6000 years old, snakes talk, lions bleed honey etc...

But I would like to hear more... If you want I would love a debate on msn or how we could do it... Because if God exists I would love to know so I dont go to hell... But so far I dont see it...

[TheJahMann]

at least you are trying to reason as a human being created by God, but still you are headstrong and that is why you don't want to open up your mind to reality, and just to let you know all the examples you listed above are true and they did happen because I believe God is Omnipotent and All Wise so all what you listed are not hard for him to perform. you reason as human beings that is why you can't reason out the truth.  "peace" yo

[TheJahMann]

I see you are hungry for knowledge about God and he has promised to give you if you open up you heart and well come it into your life, but his enemy 'the devil" is still trying to hold down your mind, so that you don't know the truth about God, that is the greatest ambition of the devil, his ambition is to do every thing as much as possible as he can to make sure he wipes out God's existence ( which he can't ) so that he can win more souls, as I said before I can instruct you on more, write back

[TheJahMann]

let me summon up some knowledge of the devils ambitions whom you worship by saying there is no God, the devil has been evil right from the beginning when he sinned and disobeyed God so that is why he has taken full control over you minds and now you can't even believe in the God who created you, there is more to it "menn", I would love to instruct you so that you don't get lost.  "peace" Bro

[blacksabbathgnr098]

hahaha only retards lean on science??? do you hear yourself speak? just because your too fucking dumb to comprehend scientific facts, doesn't make the geniouses who come up with the scientific breakthroughs dumb.

YOUR TALKING ON THE INTERNET. A RESULT OF SCIENTIFIC INOVATION.

if you don't like science, then get the fuck off the internet and become Amish you stupid fuck.

[TheJahMann]

"turd" are you mad because you don't have a dick?

[blacksabbathgnr098]

no i have a dick, and it wqs in your mom's asswhole last nite. she can tell you all about it. i'm mad because you don't have a brain.

[TheJahMann]

no you are mad because you are a "turd", my mon does not know "turds" like you

[blacksabbathgnr098]

oh, but you're wrong. she loves my turds. what I like to do is take a shit in her mouth and then surrand wrap her head. i also enjoy freezing my shit and using it as a dildo to shove up her loose wet pussy.

[TheJahMann]

you are mentally retarded, you need to leave in a group home for some mental care

[blacksabbathgnr098]

alright, so you're admitting that I whooped your FUCKING ASS in shit talking. thank you for adnowledging me as your master. I appreciate it.

Do me a favor and stick whatever confidence you have as an ugly human being straight up your ass you retarted hick.

[jamundi308]

Since when do we use the quran? lol

[TheJahMann]

you guys have misunderstood the whole Bible right from the beginning, I guess I would have a lot of work to do while trying to re-teach the Bible over to you guys

[j0x333]

He always was. Read your bible "Holy Holy Holy Lord God Almighty, witch was and is and is to come." what 'matter' is he made of? God is a spirit. What matter are you made of? things found in a hand full of dust from the ground? God said he made us from the dust of the earth. If you reject Him all your life one day you will regret it. I will be called and whoever else witnesses to you the truth in judgment, you will bow your knee and confess Jesus as Lord and say AMEN unto your own destruction.

[TheJahMann]

"Hallelu-Jah", thank you Bro you said just the right thing,lets keep testifying about Our God even though some people don't want to believe in Him

[5478926]

this video is 100% true

[j0x333]

Allah is not the God of the bible.

[diggerman40]

All this voice commentary claims are a load of ball shit. Thats my view,GOOD LUCK YOU  AND ME WE NEED IT !MAIN AIM>>>>>>>BE GOOD TO ALL.

[kurtu5]

Who created the creator? Oh wait, you imaginary friend nutters will refuse to think about that one eh?

[j0x333]

He always was.

He always is.

He is to come.

[kurtu5]

Yeah if he does come, I hope I get to suck HIS penis.

[TheJahMann]

you must be insane to talk about God like that

[kurtu5]

If God exists and wished to punish me for having free will that it created in me, then I will rebel.

Always.

[TheJahMann]

"If God exists and wished to punish me for having free will that it created in me, then I will rebel." ha ha!! ! that's funny "menn"

you have a pointless point here because that is what i first thought i could do , but luckily i realized and freed my self off of that retardedness because no body cannot first rebel against God all mighty in the first place, men he is going to twist you if you try to act high on drugs around him.

[kurtu5]

Then you worship a slave master.

[TheJahMann]

yes I love to worship a slave master so long as that slave master is God i have no problems with that

[kurtu5]

Sounds like more of a devil than a god.

[devin6691]

BULLSHIT i hate this video,it sucks ass

you're telling me that out of everything allah has assumed and saiid that is ALL they could find that was close/general enough to throw in there? allah isnt god but a mislead follower.

[JustForBrieLarson]

God is all in all:all people,all spirits,all being,Moses was even told that He would make Moses as God.That means that we are equal to God.

[JustForBrieLarson]

God make the heavens and the earth in 6 days and God is All in All.

[thenightgamer]

i do not no y

sonething small as us can

comment the being of the universe

[Kevo216666]

Dude, you're wrong on all counts. You come across as a jumped up little twat. You certainly don't as someone who has ever engaged in intelligent debate. Saying a god outside of the known universe created everything, explains nothing. It's a moronic arguement

[FunkySeeFunkyDo22]

Creationist propaganda

[nikosfun]

What is written in the Quran is not an evidence of anything. It just shows what normal human would deduce from his/her observations. Not to mention that Quran is actually a copy of more ancient books. And Muslims keep the myth about Quran, by claiming that Mohamed did not know to write/read.

Poor propaganda. All religions are the same, just copy/paste insane matter. Imagine one day ... there is no religion. People will be finally happy. Beliefs make us stupid slaves. :(

[RWings4013]

Haha I love thinking about when people believe something with that amount of power can start from nothing. So hmmm...We have a universe that is roughly 8 billion light years wide and it came from nothing but a small amount of something with no volume and infinite density? Again, something cannot come from nothing. Does a child just land on Earth or does it have a mother?

[jawwad01]

quran is the confirmation over previous scriptures....it declares that......it says what the book got corrupted and Quran is final confirmation and God Himself will guard it....it is in the same state as it was when it appeared today....

[andydrew105]

Not trying to be rude to Islams, but the Bible said that in Genisis. It is a provven fact that the Bible was written before the Quoran. Christianity came from Judaism and Islam came from Christianity. Muhamad attended Christian preachings. then he would go outside the city then&pray to God. So common since would mean that ifhe was attending Christian things then going outside the city to pray to God that obiosily mean he was praying to the Jew/Christian God. Most of the quoran is from the Bible.

[HecklerBoy7]

fact is, there is a creator. But the question we should all be asking is, is the creator the one described in the Bible? or does HE even care about us? or just left us to evolve for ourselves? Thats the question. If you know the answer to that, please get back to me. Honestly Id like to know.

[Kevo216666]

Fact is? What facts exactly? 1 piece of evidence will do, just one.

[HecklerBoy7]

Someone spills milk, you dont ask the milk how it got there. The Milk is there, someone (or perhaps something) caused that. The evidence is were here.

[Kevo216666]

Ahhh, the famous milk conundrum. Let's see... If I see spilt milk, I think how did that get there. I look at the evidence available in my rather nice kitchen and work out what went on whilst I was not present.

Why on earth would I not ask how it got there?!

[HecklerBoy7]

Well if you dont like to ask the question that has been asked by people since time immemorial. The question that a multitude of great Philosophers, Scientists and other Great minds have struggled to answer. Then be my guest. No one is forcing you.

[Kevo216666]

You're not making much sense....

"Someone spills milk, you dont ask the milk how it got there. The Milk is there, someone (or perhaps something) caused that. The evidence is were here."

Here you are suggesting we just accept the existence everything without asking any questions...

...And then saying (rather spookily) that somE "thing" is the explaination.

Can you be less cryptic please?

[HecklerBoy7]

I find it odd you think what I said was "cryptic" . I doubt you really are at pains to try and understand what I just said, but ok, I'll overlook that for now.

The "evidence" for a creator is that were here. We exist. The universe is here. Whoever caused this Universe is our creator. I cannot give you any more evidence than that, coz we are the milk buddy.

[Kevo216666]

Fuck me! What's your obsession with milk!

I'd rather see evidence for a divine creator and not just *ASSUME* there's one. The universe is not evidence of a creator.

Just because we haven't got all the answers yet, it doesn't me we have fill in the gaps with nonesense.

Assuming in a God is an intellectual dead end.

They don't have the answers yet, but they are closer than you...

...buddy.

[HecklerBoy7]

What evidence do you want? Should I bring God to see you? And what do you mean they are closer? really?? How do you know? Your the one who is "assuming". We arent even "closer" to understanding dark matter.

Besides even scientists agree that they cannot possibly know anything pre-BigBang. Because before then. even the laws of Physics were non-existent. So No, no one is "closer" to understanding hoe the universe started.. buddy. That is a "gap" that will never be answered.. buddy.

[HecklerBoy7]

Moreover there is no need to be rude. You posted a question at my comment. And as my "obsession with milk" .. just wow. Im just stunned that until now you dont get the metaphor.

[Kevo216666]

When the LHC was turned on we became closer. When they start the experiments at CERN we'll be closer. We are closer than we were 5 years ago and in 5 years time we'll know even more. It's called progress...

...Bullshit! Scientist don't agree on anything of the sort. Science isn't about absolutes it's about the unknown. They agree we don't have a theory that explains what happened before the big bang, but they certainly don't aggree we can't never possibly know..Do you actually read the news?!

[HecklerBoy7]

oh ok, then I guess Dan Barker was a Hypocrite when he said that asking what happened before the Big Bang is a "meaningless question".

I didnt know Science is "about the unknown" !

Are you sure about that?!

And science isnt about "absolutes"?? Do you even understand the words that you are using??

Scientists dont agree on alot of things. Yes scientists wont say that "we'll never know" But alot submit to the fact that to know what happened before the Big Bang? Not likely!

[HecklerBoy7]

CERN 'COULD' answer what happened during the Big Bang, it wont be able to answer what happened before the Big Bang. The "gap" would still be what 'caused' the Big Bang. Some say a 'singularity' or small articles colliding, well what caused that?

No matter how you would love to deny it. Truth is, there is an un-discoverable "Gap". And I am more inclined to believe in Spinozas God. Do not mistake me for a Bible Thumper.

[HecklerBoy7]

Hahahaha well that explains it. You read the "news" for your cosmological updates!

[Kevo216666]

Look, you're contradicting yourself. Make your mind up and come back with a good argument. This is tedious.

I'm sorry but you do sound as ignorant as a bible thumper.

[HecklerBoy7]

Where did I contradict myself? Even your understanding of that word (like the other words you just used) seems erratic. You havent made ANY point. Read UP. Your a classic example of someone who knows nothing but acts as if he knows everything. I bet your below 15 years old? You cant even form logical arguments. I do love debating, but Id rather debate someone with a little more substance.

[Kevo216666]

..How did you god get there.

[HecklerBoy7]

hahaha yah.. another response with no substance. I take it you have a hard time expressing yourself - well you dont make any sense at all. Maybe your from a non-english speaking country. Bye now

[AskariWaryaa]

Atheism is a religion of its own.

Infact Atheists love to convert others to their way of belief, which is why you see them commenting on any video that has connotations to God.

[KU106]

common my atheists, and non believing brothers n sisters, this is an invitation to paradise!!! Its true! Trust me! Eternal Paradise!!! Cant wait, Insha Allah!

[Kevo216666]

KU106|: I'll give you a wide birth on my next tube journey.

[immatureasian]

you guys are stupid! if nothing created the big bang..than something has to create that nothing man go back to school!! your minds are dull. we wanna talk about God has nothing to do with science but what is science? God created science. its impossible for an accident to make something perfect and impossible for an explosion to make it that way unless it was planned and meant to be..just watch the video and for once be openminded! before you judge whats real and not..yes the bigbang started it.

[introspectiv07]

did nothingness create allah? hmmmmm

[dilsepagal21]

thanks for uploading brother!!

JazakAllah

[PigeonHead57]

Religion has no place in science

[mitube1979]

"A little bit of science will estrange men from God, but much science will lead them back to Him."-Louis Pasteur ...

[PigeonHead57]

Fuck louis pasteur, and fuck the universe.

Dont bother me again.

[mitube1979]

Sorry, but I think science and aducation has no place in your pig head.

[mitube1979]

Do you think you are Pete Doherty? Do you think it is funny to create an account just to try to be another person?I know koran is wrong, but I Think you have 14 years, and are still a teenager.Ok, when you find your real personality you will learn how to answer to an adult.

[PigeonHead57]

what the fuck are you going on about? Do I think im Pete Doherty? Create an account to be somebody else? Youre strange. Youve had your head up lois patseurs arse for far too long, wake up and smell the bull shit, smell good, dont it?

[skypromaster]

i do not belive in a lot of god and human become god. That is ridiculas in science from past until future. I belive that this universe created by true god not from human become god. If human can become god, how? by eating shit maybe?

[skypromaster]

gsangha2007 are bitch father. What do you know?

[gsangha2007]

Honestly, stop taking words out of context: Quran may have some science in it but this is all wrong and imprecise. If it makes you belive in quran then do so...but do not spread falsehood.

[srini208]

hilarious.. it quran does not say anything abut the big bang. and what it says about the creator and creation, even a kid can say

[envyjealous]

Why waste your time re-discovering everything that the Creator has already created when all he wants you to do is for you to take care of and just enjoy it... "LOVE" is the Universal Answer...

[Atheistestament]

so funny Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

[Atheistestament]

He don't even know the system of the universe,I dont understand why he is called "the Creator", my brain may be full of shit, sorry.

[ramosay]

ATHIESTESMENT, im happy that u pointed to those verses which ALLAH ALLMIGHTY, pointed to the ppl of knowledg they r those verses which has scientific facts which scientest just recentlY descoverd , and the ppl who dont know QURAN and about science will nevr understand , if u waNt to know about these verses go to my fav videos which says mirecale of QURAN

[ramosay]

ATHIESTESMENT, im happy that u pointed to those verses which ALLAH ALLMIGHTY, pointed to the ppl of knowledg they r those verses which has scientific facts which scientest just recentlY descoverd , and the ppl who dont know QURAN and about science will nevr understand , if u waNt to know about these verses go to my fav videos which says mirecale of QURAN

[Atheistestament]

Quran 15: 19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon Mountains firm and immovable;

Quran 78: 6-7 Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs.

[ramosay]

athiest , muslims r the first ppl to who decoverd science at first place , and QURAN says ALLAH made everything from water , when the csintests found about this ? i guess u dont have any idea , just recently ,QURAN also says the water of the rivers & the water of sea dont mix goes trough but dont mix , just recently scientests found about this fact ,

[ramosay]

ATHIEST, just because u dont understand QURAN do u have to judge it ? what makes u to allow yourself to say something about the things u dont know as u confeced yourself? 4 example if i read book of which talks about biology of the earth if i dont understand it should i have to judge it ?

[Atheistestament]

Quran 21: 33 It is He who created The Night and Day, And the Sun and Moon; each of them Swim (float) along in its own course.

[ramosay]

athiest, this priticular verse (21.33, which u qouited to me is one of the very famouse scientific evedence shaws which u didnt got it what is it means but any other ordinary ppl do , coz it says about the moon which goes in circle in orbit , befor islam the whole world thought the world is flat and the sky is flat QURAN revealed what real shape the earth is and how the day or the sun goes in orbit and follows it ok ?

[ramosay]

ch 20, 30

Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of Creation), before We clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?

[Atheistestament]

Quran 31: 29 Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night; That He has subjected the sun and moon (to His law), each running its course for a term (time) appointed.

[Atheistestament]

Quran 78: 19 And the heavens (sky) Shall be broken (opened) as if there were doors opens...

Quran 82: 1 When the Sky is cleft asunder

Quran 69: 16 And the sky will be Rent asunder, for it will That day be flimsy (soft)

Quran 81: 2 When the stars fall, losing their luster.

[ramosay]

athiest, these verses ALLAHtalks about the day of judgement ,78.19,82.1,69.16,81.2 which the skyes will removed and the stars will removed etc etc i will refrence 1 which might more clear 4 u to understand ok,

[Atheistestament]

Quran 21: 32 And We have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents.

Quran 31: 10 He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed...

Quran 2: 22: Who has made the earth your couch, And the heavens (Sky) your canopy

[ramosay]

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful

When Earth is shaken with her (final) earthquake (1) And Earth yieldeth up her burdens, (2) And man saith: What aileth her? (3) That day she will relate her chronicles, (4) Because thy Lord inspireth her. (5) That day mankind will issue forth in scattered groups to be shown their deeds. (6) And whoso doeth good an atom's weight will see it then, (7) And whoso doeth ill an atom's weight will see it then. (8)

[Atheistestament]

Quran 37: 6-8 We have indeed decorated the lower heaven (sky) with beauty (in) the stars, (for beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious Satans. So they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side.

[Atheistestament]

Quran 36: 39 And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shrivelled palm leaf.

Quran 36: 40 It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.

Quran 67: 5 And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky) with lamps, and We have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away Satans...

[Atheistestament]

Ok I comfess my brain is full of shit,ISo I'll never catch up with them,they are out of my knowledge.

Quran 18: 86 Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring.

Quran 18: 90 Till, when he reached the rising-place of the Sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.:)

Quran 36: 38 And the sun runneth on unto a resting place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.

[ramosay]

or QURAN leads to science , and if u like watch the video WHICH SCIENTESTS TESTIFIES THE TRUE SCIENTIFIC FACT OF QURAN , CALLED THAT WOIULD REALLY CONVERT U , DONT WORRY ABOUT THIS TITLE JUST IGNORE IT BUT WATCH IT IF U LIKE ? AND IF WANT TO PROVE MUSLIMS OR QURAN TO BE WRONG AS U CLAIMED ?

[ramosay]

and in the new testment it says god is in 3 or 1 in 3 or god died or god is the son and the father ? is that makes sense to u ? if does then i know why QURAN ISNT MAKE SENSE TO COZ U PPL R JUST BRANWASHED AND NONSENSE NATION YOURSELVES look at ur book u follow complete nonsense ,

[Atheistestament]

ok go and read the "Criticism of the Qur'an" in wikipedia,you will see....,what Quran teach you is not science but decapitation.

[DeutscherPhilosoph]

So, the koran says, that the universe is expanding... or das it say that god expanded the sky over the earth? Not really a wonder, isn't it?

Anyway, this is also written in the bible: Hiob, 9: "God streches out the heavens."

[DeutscherPhilosoph]

Shall this promote the quaran?

Look at sura 41: FIRST there was the earth, then god put mountains on it. THEN the sky was still dust and THEN god made the sky (resp. 7 skies one over another).

(resp. the sky was attached to the earth and then allah lifted it up).

Conclusion: Complete Nonsense

[ramosay]

and in the new testment it says god is in 3 or 1 in 3 or god died or god is the son and the father ? is that makes sense to u ? if does then i know why QURAN ISNT MAKE SENSE TO COZ U PPL R JUST BRANWASHED AND NONSENSE NATION YOURSELVES look at ur book u follow complete nonsense

[ramosay]

Deutscherphilooph, lol , now my Q is 4 u , tell me is the bible makes sense when it says in 1 plce an adultrer or adultress should be stoned then in the other place it talks about noha slept with his 2 daughters and theres many incist between son & mother etc etc , or in exudes ch20.1-7 it says im a jealous god dont take other god befor me or any image of me ,

[ramosay]

Deutscherphilooph, lol , now my Q is 4 u , tell me is the bible makes sense when it says in 1 plce an adultrer or adultress should be stoned then in the other place it talks about noha slept with his 2 daughters and theres many incist between son & mother etc etc , or in exudes ch20.1-7 it says im a jealous god dont take other god befor me or any image of me ,

[ramosay]

DEUTSCHERPH, its so obvious pp like u would never understand QURAN coz QURAN is not a once upon a book like bible ok , and the verses u and ur friend pointed to me suprisingly they r those verses which allah send scientific facts which ppl like u would never understand ,

[ramosay]

if u want to prove me wrong go to my fav videos the answer is there , then come back and talk to me what is means etc or else just sit where u are dont try to get out of ur level coz u cant ,

[Atheistestament]

Are u trying to promote the Qur'an? It will never be compeatable with the science at all.First you'd better read so many nonsense things in it.

[awais123]

what are the nonsense things ? can u quote them, yeah sciences comes out of quran its what ur biggest scientist belive not an ordinary person like u.

[UnsichtbarerGeist]

Some nonsense things in the quran:

Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water (18/86)

And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones(67/5)

He has set up on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with you(16/15)

[TheJahMann]

Thanks Bro , lets tell them the truth

[ramosay]

ATHEISTESTMENT, please keep your stupid ideas to yourself dont try to think u can spread it coz u dont make sense yourself ,infact ppl like u will never understand  what science is or for the fact what QURAN is saying ok? coz when u read QURAN it starts asking the ppl of knowledg the pll who uses their knowledge and intelligentce which i can see u have non ,

[UnsichtbarerGeist]

I am a scientist. Do you want to tell me, i don't know what science is? Do you want to excuse the nonense in the quran with the nonsense in the bible?

The many, many mistakes and the primitive view of the world (expressing the knowledge of Muhammeds time) are really proof enough, that the quran can NEVER be a scripture from an all-knowing beeing.

[Kenzofeis]

The Big Bng theory is not nessecarily the thruth... so, I think using it as proof is a bit stretched ;P

[pzyktzle1]

even if the big bang were fact, it does not prove there is a god.

it simply fits nicely with the notion that god created the universe.

[jedaaa]

same old same old, religion dosent matter, not in this context or in any other

[pzyktzle1]

"religion does not matter in any context." - some guy on youtube.

[jedaaa]

your point being?