best batman movie. before GGI made the effects/stunts boring and keaton is the best batman because he actually convinces as bruce wayne. nicholson is great and a prince soundtrack! these days they just play it safe and would never cast keaton or get prince in. nolans ones are decent but unremarkable
@JediAcademia this joker is almost same than the comics.... ledger´s joker is like a alternative history of batman.... but this joker is the"normal" =D
@jerseyirish just stop talking, yes, you prefer the old batmans to the new, personally i feel christian bale is a great bruce wayne/ batman, and in my eyes, the dark knight is the very best comic book movie, and therefore, batman movie, ever made. Heath Ledger is just so incredible, turning the Joker from just a comical character (unless of course you are a true hard core fan) into a truly frightening and crazy killer
@GDProduktions Im a grown man so I'll talk whenever I damn well feel. Were you even born yet when the original came out? Didn't think so. Bale sucks as Batman and his envy of Heath was easy to spot after it came out. Nope, Burton's originals still reign supreme.
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This movie was actually pretty well done for a director who's never read any comic books in his life. I'm not exaggerating or making that up. Tim Burton said admitted that. During the 80s Batman comics started getting much darker and Burton just wanted to take something really dark and make it much darker. One of the major things that gives that away to me is Batman's ability to kill criminals with absolutely no remorse. A pretty good movie aside from that.
@SIngli6 i feel you on that, and if im not mistaken Heath went and talk 2 Jack about how to take on the role of being the Joker, so in The Dark Knight there is still an echo of the original Batman....kinda kool once u think about it
@king1Malik I disagree. As much as The Dark Knight saga *tries* to be sophisticated, it doesn't really seem to hold up under closer scrutiny. In "The Dark Knight," for instance, I got the feeling that the writers basically took a random sampling of chain e-mail philosophical questions and tossed them into the mix, regardless of the plot holes and excessive length that it resulted in.
@RobinHood3000 You can pretty much say any sophisticated movie you dislike is "trying to be sophisticated" or "pretentious". Its only a bias statement on your part because YOU don't like it. It doesn't change anything.
@KevsHardLemonade WOW, this was old. You're right, in that my statement isn't, on its own, true. At the same time, you haven't said anything contradicting my argument.
You do have a point, though, that my comment didn't have much support. Basically, I thought that for a movie that starts to approach 3 hours runtime, the writers tried to stretch the plot arc too far, shortchanging Two-Face basically for the sake of getting to say "The Dark Knight" at the end, which struck me as pretentious.
1:32 = the best part of the trailer: climactic music, followed by Jack's iconic "winged freak terrorises? wait'll they get a load of me! HAHAHAHAHA" gives me chills, so cool
1:32 = the best part of the trailer: climactic music, followed by Jack's iconinc "winged freak terrorises? wait'll they get a load of me! HAHAHAHAHA" gives me chills, so cool
Batman is one of my all time favorite movies. Michael Keaton was definitely the best Batman ever. Jack Nickolson was perfect Joker. Kim Basinger was stunning and brilliant as always. Fantastic Movie!!!
This trailer...is this really real? This really looks worse than fanmade...it's missing the narrator, and music...BAd trailer, but one hell of a movie. One of my all time favourites..
I personally love the first batman movie but I can't help saying that the Dark Knight was the best of the series. Why?Because it was more of an introspective batman we see. We see and know wat bruce Wayne is feeling about Everything and how batman manifests them in his desperation to end injustice and the like..
The trailer looks slapped together because it was. Prior to the film's release, a lot of fans were apprehensive about Tim Burton (whose biggest successes were Beetlejuice and Pee-Wee's Big Adventure) and Micheal Keaton (a comedy actor) being involved, feeling it would be the 1960s series all over again. This trailer was rushed into theaters for Christmas of 1988, in order to build anticipation. It worked very well.
If you use your observational skills you will notice a lot more of the details that make Batman much better than the Dark knight as a movie on the whole. It comes down to detail. How does the joker just turn into the joker in the dark knight? Is it just because he was abused by his father and peers? The hi-tech robocop batsuit and the batmobile (more like a bat-tank)? I mean it's impressive but then why don't we give Bale some lazer gadgets and some other crazy accessories..
@sirpsychoalexi I agree with you there. The Dark Knight could easily have been called CSI Gotham. It was more a crime drama than a Batman movie. Bale's Batman has no mystique, he's more of a thuggish secret agent/spec op type. Seeing Keaton in this dark gothic setting of Burton's is really how I've always imagined Batman and how I always will.
@MisterHayt said "Ledger > Realistic with a city like today, Psycho Joker, not using jokes."
I say. Realistic = boring. with a city like today = boring. Psycho = boring/done a zillion times. not using jokes = plain boring
The Dark Night was made up of 90% dull/boring dialog + 10% hidious CGI. CGI is good but not when it replaces stunts that could have been done in the real world. TDK also had no depth, just dull ramblings.
There's incredible and indescribable magic in this film.. something that the dark knight lacked.
Keaton, Nicholson, the suit, the car, the cave, Gotham city, Elfman's music and everything else that made us believe that a Batman could exist is present in this movie. You don't have time to doubt.
In the dark knight, bale looks like robocop with that suit and gotham looks like chicago.. cause it is chicago.
Dark knight was a good movie, but this here is a masterpiece.. it's a work of art.
I will repeat myself once more - nostalgia is not the case here.
I'll ask you this: when you watch the dark knight, did you feel that Gotham City is indeed that dark, sinful and corrupt city that is filled with crime and a deep-seated sense of urban decay, as portrayed in the comic books? I personally did not see this and did not see gotham, I saw present day chicago. So what i am referring to here is the atmosphere within the dark knight. In Batman 89 you had an actual architect of Gotham.
The batman has changed in the dark knight. It's more present day which is an interesting approach, but still it's not convincing enough for me at least.
Don't get me wrong, it was one of my favourite movies from last year but as far as comparing it to it's predecessor, i'm afraid it has not passed it by any means. An extraordinary portrayal of the psychotic joker by ledger and one intense and full of surprises script, can't compare to the burton's masterpiece and sorry mate, this is my opinion
@BornIn1142 Or maybe you're just an opinionated dumbass, driven by his subjectivity and personal taste, possibly also lacking the observational skills to realize what the majority of people in this public commenting area, are saying, also not showing the maturity and intelligence form a constructive discussion & possibly come to some conclusion. Maybe you're the person that's actually full of shit or do you need arguments for that too?
Most agree, i like it more than Batman Begins and Dark Knight even if they are still great. But what is even more better is Mask of the Phantasm (a.k.a. Batman animated movie).
One thing that bugs me about this film's marketing was that Nicholson always came before Keaton on the posters and adverts. Granted Nicholson was a bigger name than Keaton at the time but you're going to be having people who've never seen Nicholson and Keaton before (i.e. kids) and thinking Nicholson is Batman and Keaton is Joker.
it may not have been an intention of the marketing. but i think it only helped that the joker got more "press" than batman. batman is dark, mysterious, shadowy and steals any photographs that a person can even try managing to take of him. thats what makes batman so interesting, the fact that you arent suppose to see hm that often or that exposed. that for me makes me like this movie slightly more than the dark knight
Batman Forever comes in close as second. Then Dark Knight, then Begins, then Forever and lastly Batman and Robin.
In my opinion, The Batman movies done by Joel Schumacher weren't very good. Batman Forever was okay, but Batman and Robin was just fun to watch, it wasn't a good Batman.
I can understand why this sparked huge anticipation back in '89, but, objectively speaking, it's like the one of the worst trailers ever. Just imagine that you're not into Batman and it immediately becomes boring. Most of the fan-made ones in youtube are way better.
Out of the old 4 Batman movies, I liked that first one with Michael Keaton. As for the reboot films with Christian Bale, I definitely love them both and I agree that they are truly an improvement over the Batman & Robin film.
From IMDB: In order to combat negative rumors about the production, a theatrical trailer was hastily assembled to be distributed to theaters. To test its effectiveness, Warner Bros. executives showed it at a theater in Westwood, California to an unsuspecting audience. The ninety-second trailer received a standing ovation. Later theater owners would report patrons paying full price for movie tickets just to have an opportunity to see the trailer, and leaving before the feature began.
@Bushleaguer28 He's right, the news ones are horrible. The only good thing to say about them is Heath's riveting performance as the Joker. Other than that, they suck horribly especially Bale's Batman.
@jerseyirish I don't remember Batman in the comics or animated series being a short, scrawny old guy who wears glasses, has an afro, and kills people. I don't remember Joker being a chubby, old guy who was a gangster & killed Wayne's parents. Or Harvey Dent being a black guy with a huge thick mustache who is not a crusading DA. Or Gordon being a fat useless, bumbling old man. Or Penguin a sewer dwelling mutant or Catwoman a zombie...and they have paper thin plots. Yep Burtons Batman is better.
@KevsHardLemonade Afro? Joker = chubby old guy? ............Huh?......Burton's first two were the best Batmans ever made bro no matter what way you slice it. They were so dark and brilliant especially the second one had little kids crying from the theaters in 93'. The last one was only semi-watchable because of Ledger's masterful performance. Matter of opinion but Im shocked you're the same age as me.
@jerseyirish Semi watchable? That is a very childish statement. It seems like you only say that out of competition/spite and immature rebellious reasons. Its so semi watchable its considered the greatest comic book movie ever made? It seems loads of people here base their opinion on competitive reasons. And just because Batman returns made kids cry means its a good movie? By that logic, Saw is more horrific than the Godfather, so that must mean its better right? And btw Im 26, not a teenager.
@jerseyirish Besides I'm not a Bale Batman obsessed person. I do love them but in regards to Burton's Batman I never loved them. Even as a kid. & I didnt even know as much about comics back then. I just felt it was silly, inconsistent, and had no plot. It just felt mostly corny and boring. Most people that loved Batman back then prefered the animated series because it had a much better and more interesting plot than the burton films. It wasnt until Batman Begins that we finally had a great film.
@KimberlyKN I fell asleep during Batman Begins. It was Joel Schumacher who destroyed the franchise with his bad Batman Forever and horrendous Batman & Robin. Christian Bale doesn't make a good Bruce Wayne to me in fact he straight up sucks at it (he was awesome in certain other movies though i.e. The Fighter, American Psycho). Like I said matter of opinion nothing touches the first two for me. Loved Ledger's Joker though.
I'm a very critical viewer of movies & somehow end up watching only the movies i feel are worth seeing. I saw all the Bat movies, i saw the Tim Burton movies & still watch in occasionally & it never gets old. When I watched Batman Begins & DK for some unexplained reason I dont feel like watching them anymore. They were both Good but i cant deny this feeling inside me that i wont be missing them if i didn't watch them again. they just don't have replay value. anybody else feel the same as i do?
i am with you. this and batman returns have artistic and nastalgic value that makes u want to see them over and over again. the 2 new ones are good, but like virtually all things made today, theyre so drawn out and and takes themselves too seriously, that once or twice a year is enough. and i dont think anyone quite had the face for batman like keaton did. and this batmobile. the best car ever. not like the bat tank or watever from Begins, not that it wasnt cool. but still. so, ur right
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Long Time Ago, After Disasters Os Schumacher, Who Destroyed The Franchise. Batman Begins And The Dark Knight Are Relief Only. But Not The Resurreccion Of Batman At The Cinema.
I Was Very Happy When I Knew About Batman Begins Came Out, But I Was Disappointed After Watch The Movie. The Dark Knight Was The Same Thing.
Still my fave Batman movie , i do love the new ones but i dont like the way they make them to real, this still has the comic book feel to it , i dont want Batman to live in the real world !!!
does anyone else think that the suit batman wears in this is soooo much better than the ones in the newer films?!?!?! simpler and none of this flashy shit!!!
It's not more realistic though is it? In this one he is more of a mythic 'creature of the night' type figure. In the new one's he's an SAS man. You tell me which persona is more realistic for someone who dresses up as a bat?
Yeah, Bale is more like an SAS man in the new one's.
In this one (1989), the way the Batman character is done suits the persona better IMO, ie he stays in the shadows more, works on his own, doesn't make big speeches.
I see Batman as more of a mythic 'creature of the night' type figure, it's more realistic someone would operate that like if they were dressed like a bat, rather than be more open and talk more etc like Bale in the one's.
Bale's Batman was trained by extremists in the tibetan mountains O.o (or something) Far from a military-type background.
He was also pretty succint with his words. I'm not sure where you got the idea he was making big speeches. Only operated at night, used stealth, and appeared and disappeared unexpectedly, communicated with only a handful of law enforcers and showed himself only to people that needed to see him.
Remember the current series is reworking his beginnings as a vigilante. Continued
First he starts off forming a relationship with Com. Gordon and receives some police help in the process, but they've established at the end of TDK that that's not practical anymore. He'll probably be much more of a loner in the third movie.
Batman's relationship with the police in TDK is what I mean by SAS man, ie turning up at crime scenes, talking to Gordon regularly, helping out.
Him working with the police doesn't work he should be seperate to police / anything like that IMO which is also what I meant by 'in the shadows'.
E.g., the conversation with Gordon in the vault ("one man or the mob? He can wait") comes accross as corny when he's standing there in a Bat suit under bright lights. Continued...
The general feeling in TDK is he is a common citizen trying to clean up the streets, as Harvey Dent puts it. Even a reporter asks him if they are working with him. He isnt a mysterious figure/ creature of the night in DK.
And when confronting criminals, IMO let the suit do the talking more than the voice, otherwise it diminishes rthe suits purpose. I like the mystery 1989 gives off less is more.
I take your point though that the end of DK they conclude him n police isnt practical anymore.
here is the fault of your comparison ur comparing the 1st movie of a series to a second movie of a series.Batman begins he is seen as not human criminals see his as creature in reports and they dont know what he is. By the end of Batman89 he sends a letter to the police saying to call him if evil ever returns now. In batman returns he is not seen as a creature is he much more in the media. And batman only talks to gordon wen MCU do call him in TDK he doesnt answer
This set the standard. The feel of this movie, and the level of quality has yet to be matched, I believe. Nothing against the new interpretations, but this is what it's all about.
Michael Keaton was a suprisingly good Batman plus soooo many great lines from this film
Joker: you wouldnt hit a guy with glasses would you ?"
Joker: Wait until they get a load of me"
Criminal: Who are You / Batman: I'm ...Batman
Love this film... from the costume to Jack Nicholson as The Joker... bad a**
TheHenderson31 2 weeks ago
best batman movie. before GGI made the effects/stunts boring and keaton is the best batman because he actually convinces as bruce wayne. nicholson is great and a prince soundtrack! these days they just play it safe and would never cast keaton or get prince in. nolans ones are decent but unremarkable
geobruf123 3 weeks ago
I recognize no other Batman after Keaton.
IG8E8 2 months ago 2
i dont like this joker, I really prefer ledger
JediAcademia 5 months ago
@JediAcademia this joker is almost same than the comics.... ledger´s joker is like a alternative history of batman.... but this joker is the"normal" =D
ZimZum4ever 1 month ago
One of my favorite movies...although this is probably the worst trailer of all time.
ledawg1138 5 months ago
@jerseyirish just stop talking, yes, you prefer the old batmans to the new, personally i feel christian bale is a great bruce wayne/ batman, and in my eyes, the dark knight is the very best comic book movie, and therefore, batman movie, ever made. Heath Ledger is just so incredible, turning the Joker from just a comical character (unless of course you are a true hard core fan) into a truly frightening and crazy killer
GDProduktions 6 months ago
@GDProduktions Im a grown man so I'll talk whenever I damn well feel. Were you even born yet when the original came out? Didn't think so. Bale sucks as Batman and his envy of Heath was easy to spot after it came out. Nope, Burton's originals still reign supreme.
jerseyirish 5 months ago
gotham city looked way better back then. the new movies are good exept the city i spotted chicago a mile a way.
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roygerdodger721 7 months ago
Were there any good trailers from the '80s? So many good movies, so many nonsensical trailers :-/
ThrilloVanHouten 8 months ago
@ThrilloVanHouten LOL trailers now a days make bad movies look really good.
putthisonmytab 8 months ago
There were some parts in this movie were I said "I can soooo see Heath Ledger doing that"
MrSherlockWatson 9 months ago
This movie was actually pretty well done for a director who's never read any comic books in his life. I'm not exaggerating or making that up. Tim Burton said admitted that. During the 80s Batman comics started getting much darker and Burton just wanted to take something really dark and make it much darker. One of the major things that gives that away to me is Batman's ability to kill criminals with absolutely no remorse. A pretty good movie aside from that.
intellectualmastadon 10 months ago
This trailer is just.....awful. I liked the movie of course, but this trailer is so badly edited.....just, oh my god!
Boyle360 11 months ago 9
Sooooo EPIC, When Jack Jus Stands There With His Arms Extended And Takes Every Bullet And Missile !!!!!! Legendary !
arson44 1 year ago
is this for real. batman is killing criminals!!!
MrMurther 1 year ago
Without the Joker!!(Jack and Heath) batman movies are just dumb!
danielnunn 1 year ago
@danielnunn nope.. not entirely. if david tennant gets riddler then it would be epic.
dawnriku 1 year ago
old is gold
kaleem091983 1 year ago
This film and 'The Dark Knight' are the only great Batman films so far,
SIngli6 1 year ago
@SIngli6 i feel you on that, and if im not mistaken Heath went and talk 2 Jack about how to take on the role of being the Joker, so in The Dark Knight there is still an echo of the original Batman....kinda kool once u think about it
Aresgodofwar1 1 year ago
A True Classic, BATMAN Rulez
LuvLand 1 year ago
"WHO ARE YOU!?
-.....I'm BATMAN!":D
KRATOSRETURNSv2 1 year ago 2
This was my favorite movie as a kid. While I like Batman Begins and The Dark Knight better, this one is still very entertaining.
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BATMAN É NO WEBATSITE.BLOGSPOT.COM
paradime1000 1 year ago
And at the time people paid to go see movies in theatres just to see this trailer, no joke.
batman93oo 1 year ago
@batman93oo i was almost like 'youtube, duh!' but then i was like 'oh yeah....'
NinjaShadow8 1 year ago
Keaton looks so badass when he spins around at the very end!
kady2284 1 year ago 6
I liked this movie. no doubt about that. however its not as sophistcated as the dark knight.
king1Malik 1 year ago
@king1Malik Yeh but the dark knigth plot is full of wholes. The dark knight is just a load pretentious rubbish
300warrior300 1 year ago
@king1Malik I disagree. As much as The Dark Knight saga *tries* to be sophisticated, it doesn't really seem to hold up under closer scrutiny. In "The Dark Knight," for instance, I got the feeling that the writers basically took a random sampling of chain e-mail philosophical questions and tossed them into the mix, regardless of the plot holes and excessive length that it resulted in.
RobinHood3000 1 year ago
@RobinHood3000 You can pretty much say any sophisticated movie you dislike is "trying to be sophisticated" or "pretentious". Its only a bias statement on your part because YOU don't like it. It doesn't change anything.
KevsHardLemonade 6 months ago
@KevsHardLemonade WOW, this was old. You're right, in that my statement isn't, on its own, true. At the same time, you haven't said anything contradicting my argument.
You do have a point, though, that my comment didn't have much support. Basically, I thought that for a movie that starts to approach 3 hours runtime, the writers tried to stretch the plot arc too far, shortchanging Two-Face basically for the sake of getting to say "The Dark Knight" at the end, which struck me as pretentious.
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1:32 = the best part of the trailer: climactic music, followed by Jack's iconic "winged freak terrorises? wait'll they get a load of me! HAHAHAHAHA" gives me chills, so cool
SpiderFan23 1 year ago
1:32 = the best part of the trailer: climactic music, followed by Jack's iconinc "winged freak terrorises? wait'll they get a load of me! HAHAHAHAHA" gives me chills, so cool
SpiderFan23 1 year ago
This trailer is awful!!!!
Joebobzilla 1 year ago
This wasn't the trailer I saw in the theaters back in 1989.
GarthanSaal444 1 year ago
@GarthanSaal444 really no wonder i was born in that year i saw this movie when it was out on vhs i also remeber the crow movie in 94
matrixlone 1 year ago
In any role you just can't beat Jack Nicholson
uselessman73 1 year ago
Batman is one of my all time favorite movies. Michael Keaton was definitely the best Batman ever. Jack Nickolson was perfect Joker. Kim Basinger was stunning and brilliant as always. Fantastic Movie!!!
ViolaXZ 1 year ago
This trailer...is this really real? This really looks worse than fanmade...it's missing the narrator, and music...BAd trailer, but one hell of a movie. One of my all time favourites..
ProtecSirius 1 year ago 3
I personally love the first batman movie but I can't help saying that the Dark Knight was the best of the series. Why?Because it was more of an introspective batman we see. We see and know wat bruce Wayne is feeling about Everything and how batman manifests them in his desperation to end injustice and the like..
elykor321 1 year ago
The trailer looks slapped together because it was. Prior to the film's release, a lot of fans were apprehensive about Tim Burton (whose biggest successes were Beetlejuice and Pee-Wee's Big Adventure) and Micheal Keaton (a comedy actor) being involved, feeling it would be the 1960s series all over again. This trailer was rushed into theaters for Christmas of 1988, in order to build anticipation. It worked very well.
superspiderspy 1 year ago
If you use your observational skills you will notice a lot more of the details that make Batman much better than the Dark knight as a movie on the whole. It comes down to detail. How does the joker just turn into the joker in the dark knight? Is it just because he was abused by his father and peers? The hi-tech robocop batsuit and the batmobile (more like a bat-tank)? I mean it's impressive but then why don't we give Bale some lazer gadgets and some other crazy accessories..
sirpsychoalexi 1 year ago
@sirpsychoalexi I agree with you there. The Dark Knight could easily have been called CSI Gotham. It was more a crime drama than a Batman movie. Bale's Batman has no mystique, he's more of a thuggish secret agent/spec op type. Seeing Keaton in this dark gothic setting of Burton's is really how I've always imagined Batman and how I always will.
pugilistofpower 1 year ago 4
@pugilistofpower
What about Kevin Conroy? and do you think Mark Hamil is a better Joker than anyone?
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
@Johnlindsey289 Kevin Conroy's good. I like his voice much more than Bale's offensive drone. And Hamill really nailed what the Joker should be.
The Burton movies will always be first in my heart but Conroy and Hamill are a close second.
pugilistofpower 1 year ago
Quite a poor trailer, especially considering the blockbuster nature of the film back in 89.
Damecos 1 year ago
I totally agree. This trailer looks like it was fan made!
Boyle360 1 year ago
Nickolson > Funny Joker who jokes with death + Gothic and Dark movie.
Ledger > Realistic with a city like today, Psycho Joker, not using jokes.
The tow are good, but Nickolson is close to the Comics. He give a smile during all the movie, but Ledger is frightening.
And the Joker came from and acid bath, it's a thing that NO fans can forget about it
MisterHayt 1 year ago
@MisterHayt I would actually say ledgers joker is more closely related to the comics than nicolsons.
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@MisterHayt said "Ledger > Realistic with a city like today, Psycho Joker, not using jokes."
I say. Realistic = boring. with a city like today = boring. Psycho = boring/done a zillion times. not using jokes = plain boring
The Dark Night was made up of 90% dull/boring dialog + 10% hidious CGI. CGI is good but not when it replaces stunts that could have been done in the real world. TDK also had no depth, just dull ramblings.
ssssroryssss2 1 year ago
There's incredible and indescribable magic in this film.. something that the dark knight lacked.
Keaton, Nicholson, the suit, the car, the cave, Gotham city, Elfman's music and everything else that made us believe that a Batman could exist is present in this movie. You don't have time to doubt.
In the dark knight, bale looks like robocop with that suit and gotham looks like chicago.. cause it is chicago.
Dark knight was a good movie, but this here is a masterpiece.. it's a work of art.
sirpsychoalexi 1 year ago 4
That "indescribable magic" you describe is called nostalgia.
BornIn1142 1 year ago
I'm afraid i disagree. Nostalgia is not the case here.
sirpsychoalexi 1 year ago
Feel free to come up with actual ARGUMENTS for why Batman ('89) is better. No, really, feel free.
Saying it has "incredible and indescribable magic" makes it pretty clear you have nothing but good childhood memories.
BornIn1142 1 year ago
I will repeat myself once more - nostalgia is not the case here.
I'll ask you this: when you watch the dark knight, did you feel that Gotham City is indeed that dark, sinful and corrupt city that is filled with crime and a deep-seated sense of urban decay, as portrayed in the comic books? I personally did not see this and did not see gotham, I saw present day chicago. So what i am referring to here is the atmosphere within the dark knight. In Batman 89 you had an actual architect of Gotham.
sirpsychoalexi 1 year ago
The batman has changed in the dark knight. It's more present day which is an interesting approach, but still it's not convincing enough for me at least.
Don't get me wrong, it was one of my favourite movies from last year but as far as comparing it to it's predecessor, i'm afraid it has not passed it by any means. An extraordinary portrayal of the psychotic joker by ledger and one intense and full of surprises script, can't compare to the burton's masterpiece and sorry mate, this is my opinion
sirpsychoalexi 1 year ago 2
Uh huh, uh huh. So yet more vague and abstract pussyfooting around the issue, still no proper arguments.
Not saying you can't prefer Batman '89... but you're not doing a very good job explaining why.
BornIn1142 1 year ago
@BornIn1142 Or maybe you're just an opinionated dumbass, driven by his subjectivity and personal taste, possibly also lacking the observational skills to realize what the majority of people in this public commenting area, are saying, also not showing the maturity and intelligence form a constructive discussion & possibly come to some conclusion. Maybe you're the person that's actually full of shit or do you need arguments for that too?
sirpsychoalexi 1 year ago
@BornIn1142 Also why don't you give us your side of the story then why don't you?
sirpsychoalexi 1 year ago
@sirpsychoalexi
Most agree, i like it more than Batman Begins and Dark Knight even if they are still great. But what is even more better is Mask of the Phantasm (a.k.a. Batman animated movie).
Johnlindsey289 1 year ago
One thing that bugs me about this film's marketing was that Nicholson always came before Keaton on the posters and adverts. Granted Nicholson was a bigger name than Keaton at the time but you're going to be having people who've never seen Nicholson and Keaton before (i.e. kids) and thinking Nicholson is Batman and Keaton is Joker.
KieranPolland 2 years ago 2
it may not have been an intention of the marketing. but i think it only helped that the joker got more "press" than batman. batman is dark, mysterious, shadowy and steals any photographs that a person can even try managing to take of him. thats what makes batman so interesting, the fact that you arent suppose to see hm that often or that exposed. that for me makes me like this movie slightly more than the dark knight
1HalfASSreViewer 1 year ago 3
Batman... a film so badass, it didn't need a "BATMAN", just slap on the bat emblem, your set...
While it the trailer itself looks a little rushed, I bet it shut up the fanboys.
Jesterclown17 2 years ago
This is my favorite Batman movie.
Batman Forever comes in close as second. Then Dark Knight, then Begins, then Forever and lastly Batman and Robin.
In my opinion, The Batman movies done by Joel Schumacher weren't very good. Batman Forever was okay, but Batman and Robin was just fun to watch, it wasn't a good Batman.
Once again, this is my personal opinion.
Arsio12 2 years ago
@Arsio12 u mean batman returns is ur second? u said forever
hbk4eva1 2 years ago
Oh yeah, you're right!
Thanks for that!
Arsio12 2 years ago
u mean batman returns in a close second sonny
coolguyjames99 2 years ago
I can understand why this sparked huge anticipation back in '89, but, objectively speaking, it's like the one of the worst trailers ever. Just imagine that you're not into Batman and it immediately becomes boring. Most of the fan-made ones in youtube are way better.
Nemeres 2 years ago 2
i loved this movie
yellowtelaviv 2 years ago 3
"Winged freak terrorizes, wait ´til they get load of me."
Loved that quote from Joker. No doubt about it the best of all the Batman films!!
asianboiXXX 2 years ago 2
@asianboiXXX
But what about Batman Begins and Dark Knight?
Johnlindsey289 2 years ago
Out of the old 4 Batman movies, I liked that first one with Michael Keaton. As for the reboot films with Christian Bale, I definitely love them both and I agree that they are truly an improvement over the Batman & Robin film.
asianboiXXX 2 years ago
This trailer blew my mind back then.
20 years ago Nov. 15, 1989 was the day Batman was released on VHS. I remember seeing Batman all day and night long. It was awesome that day.
xboyindahouse 2 years ago
From IMDB: In order to combat negative rumors about the production, a theatrical trailer was hastily assembled to be distributed to theaters. To test its effectiveness, Warner Bros. executives showed it at a theater in Westwood, California to an unsuspecting audience. The ninety-second trailer received a standing ovation. Later theater owners would report patrons paying full price for movie tickets just to have an opportunity to see the trailer, and leaving before the feature began.
hectorguzmanmontoya 2 years ago
Loved Mr Keaton as the Batman!
YouLessThanThreeMe 2 years ago 4
its more comic, its more tim and its the 80`s.. but its not better then the new ones..!!!
jotke 2 years ago
Yes, the good old days, when Kim Basinger was still fucking hot.
DetectiveDeckard 2 years ago 3
Best Batman movie.
MrCultMovies 2 years ago 4
Holy shit, this movie is SO much better than the new one(s).
9r9t3 2 years ago 17
Yes yes it is.
420dimebag 2 years ago 5
@420dimebag
supremebeing87 1 year ago
@9r9t3
Oh come on, you gotta admit the new movies were an improvement over Batman and Robin.
Johnlindsey289 2 years ago 3
Yes, but that's not saying much.
9r9t3 2 years ago
@9r9t3 No.
pibitopoxi 1 year ago
@9r9t3 why do you think that?
OMEGAROB246 1 year ago
@9r9t3
My god I couldnt agree with you more ;))
XFILESfanchannel 1 year ago
@9r9t3 lol funny joke cause we both know the new one is miles better
yohb7 1 year ago
@yohb7 depends on what you mean by better.
in my oppinion if jack was more like heath then it would be better... but christian needed to definitely be more like him.
dawnriku 1 year ago
@dawnriku well the new oneshave a better story in my opinion
yohb7 1 year ago
@9r9t3 are u retarded?
Bushleaguer28 9 months ago
@Bushleaguer28 He's right, the news ones are horrible. The only good thing to say about them is Heath's riveting performance as the Joker. Other than that, they suck horribly especially Bale's Batman.
jerseyirish 8 months ago
@jerseyirish I don't remember Batman in the comics or animated series being a short, scrawny old guy who wears glasses, has an afro, and kills people. I don't remember Joker being a chubby, old guy who was a gangster & killed Wayne's parents. Or Harvey Dent being a black guy with a huge thick mustache who is not a crusading DA. Or Gordon being a fat useless, bumbling old man. Or Penguin a sewer dwelling mutant or Catwoman a zombie...and they have paper thin plots. Yep Burtons Batman is better.
KevsHardLemonade 6 months ago
@KevsHardLemonade Afro? Joker = chubby old guy? ............Huh?......Burton's first two were the best Batmans ever made bro no matter what way you slice it. They were so dark and brilliant especially the second one had little kids crying from the theaters in 93'. The last one was only semi-watchable because of Ledger's masterful performance. Matter of opinion but Im shocked you're the same age as me.
jerseyirish 6 months ago
@jerseyirish Semi watchable? That is a very childish statement. It seems like you only say that out of competition/spite and immature rebellious reasons. Its so semi watchable its considered the greatest comic book movie ever made? It seems loads of people here base their opinion on competitive reasons. And just because Batman returns made kids cry means its a good movie? By that logic, Saw is more horrific than the Godfather, so that must mean its better right? And btw Im 26, not a teenager.
KimberlyKN 6 months ago
@jerseyirish Besides I'm not a Bale Batman obsessed person. I do love them but in regards to Burton's Batman I never loved them. Even as a kid. & I didnt even know as much about comics back then. I just felt it was silly, inconsistent, and had no plot. It just felt mostly corny and boring. Most people that loved Batman back then prefered the animated series because it had a much better and more interesting plot than the burton films. It wasnt until Batman Begins that we finally had a great film.
KimberlyKN 6 months ago
@KimberlyKN I fell asleep during Batman Begins. It was Joel Schumacher who destroyed the franchise with his bad Batman Forever and horrendous Batman & Robin. Christian Bale doesn't make a good Bruce Wayne to me in fact he straight up sucks at it (he was awesome in certain other movies though i.e. The Fighter, American Psycho). Like I said matter of opinion nothing touches the first two for me. Loved Ledger's Joker though.
jerseyirish 6 months ago
@9r9t3
You are SO much more hipster than Nolan fans..
pablohat 5 months ago
@9r9t3 So youre saying this movie is better than the Dark Knight, easily one of the greatest movies in history?
trybalnet06 4 months ago
Is this really the offical trailer? It seems so thrown together and poorly paced. Not to mention empty.
GuiltlessGear 2 years ago 3
This has been flagged as spam show
Batman and Batman Returns were the best Batman movies ever made. Forget about overrated and very dark, gloomy The Dark Knight.
Michael Keaton was the best Batman. Kim Basinger and Michelle Pfeiffer were the best female characters from the series.
AlexBlend 2 years ago
Don't you find it odd that whenever a highly anticipated Batman movie is released, an Indiana Jones movie is released as well.
'89 - Batman and Indiana Jones 3
'08 - The Dark Knight and Indiana Jones 4
What a coincidence.
LLWChampion 2 years ago 13
@LLWChampion Are you just trying to be funny or something? How big of a coincidence is it really? Not big. Or i'm just not getting the humor idk.
putthisonmytab 8 months ago
I'm a very critical viewer of movies & somehow end up watching only the movies i feel are worth seeing. I saw all the Bat movies, i saw the Tim Burton movies & still watch in occasionally & it never gets old. When I watched Batman Begins & DK for some unexplained reason I dont feel like watching them anymore. They were both Good but i cant deny this feeling inside me that i wont be missing them if i didn't watch them again. they just don't have replay value. anybody else feel the same as i do?
redcomet7700 2 years ago
No. Both Batman and Batman Returns make me cringe. Nolan's Batman Begins and TDK are the best. I can watch them over and over again.
jrvenice1999 2 years ago
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thewatcherism 2 years ago
I like the new Batman films and you like the old Batman films, and because we have a different opinion you sling insults.
Well done. Well played. Excellent orator you are. You are certainly a master debater.
jrvenice1999 2 years ago
i apologize sorry
thewatcherism 2 years ago
i am with you. this and batman returns have artistic and nastalgic value that makes u want to see them over and over again. the 2 new ones are good, but like virtually all things made today, theyre so drawn out and and takes themselves too seriously, that once or twice a year is enough. and i dont think anyone quite had the face for batman like keaton did. and this batmobile. the best car ever. not like the bat tank or watever from Begins, not that it wasnt cool. but still. so, ur right
retrojocky 2 years ago
right on
thewatcherism 2 years ago
Terrible trailer for a great movie...
WednesdayThe17th 2 years ago 2
dude he meant official by it pretty much MADE Batman what he is today...
WednesdayThe17th 2 years ago
But that was based on the TV series of the 60s.
ledzeppelinfreak 2 years ago
One person said on IMDB in a comment that this movie is a remake. It is not. I think this movie is the first "official" Batman movie.
ledzeppelinfreak 2 years ago
ITs not a remake but it technically the 3rd batman movie ever made.
The first was in the 40s-- then in 66- then June 23rd 1989..... hows that for being a nerd. lol
masonTganes 2 years ago
actually there were 2 in the 1940's so... the '89 one would be the 4th.
wolverine181988 2 years ago
Who Cares If Batman Is More Real (Batman Begins And The Dark Knight). Batman Is a Ficticional Character, And Tim Burton Made Two Movies Insurmountables.
Long Time Ago, After Disasters Os Schumacher, Who Destroyed The Franchise. Batman Begins And The Dark Knight Are Relief Only. But Not The Resurreccion Of Batman At The Cinema.
I Was Very Happy When I Knew About Batman Begins Came Out, But I Was Disappointed After Watch The Movie. The Dark Knight Was The Same Thing.
principedecanaima 2 years ago
Still my fave Batman movie , i do love the new ones but i dont like the way they make them to real, this still has the comic book feel to it , i dont want Batman to live in the real world !!!
iamzexy 2 years ago
hehe the batman symbol at the end was hilarious
iwantaconfession 2 years ago
Still the best batman movie yes even better than the dark knight
HarveyDent18 3 years ago
im still waiting for someone to actually put the actual original trailer up here with the animated bat ending
bobbyhill19899 3 years ago
Jack Nicholson as the Joker is pure awesomeness.
gullsokker 3 years ago 2
does anyone else think that the suit batman wears in this is soooo much better than the ones in the newer films?!?!?! simpler and none of this flashy shit!!!
mattmasson17 3 years ago
nope i think the new one is better, far realistic..
devkamal 3 years ago
.........and since when is realistic better ?
zufgh 3 years ago
since ppl start using their brains.
devkamal 3 years ago
Bull.
zufgh 3 years ago
Cow.
devkamal 3 years ago
mature.
zufgh 3 years ago
irrelevant
devkamal 3 years ago
It's not more realistic though is it? In this one he is more of a mythic 'creature of the night' type figure. In the new one's he's an SAS man. You tell me which persona is more realistic for someone who dresses up as a bat?
PeteFD1986 3 years ago
He's an SAS man?
kaisergrendel 2 years ago
Yeah, Bale is more like an SAS man in the new one's.
In this one (1989), the way the Batman character is done suits the persona better IMO, ie he stays in the shadows more, works on his own, doesn't make big speeches.
I see Batman as more of a mythic 'creature of the night' type figure, it's more realistic someone would operate that like if they were dressed like a bat, rather than be more open and talk more etc like Bale in the one's.
PeteFD1986 2 years ago
Bale's Batman was trained by extremists in the tibetan mountains O.o (or something) Far from a military-type background.
He was also pretty succint with his words. I'm not sure where you got the idea he was making big speeches. Only operated at night, used stealth, and appeared and disappeared unexpectedly, communicated with only a handful of law enforcers and showed himself only to people that needed to see him.
Remember the current series is reworking his beginnings as a vigilante. Continued
kaisergrendel 2 years ago
First he starts off forming a relationship with Com. Gordon and receives some police help in the process, but they've established at the end of TDK that that's not practical anymore. He'll probably be much more of a loner in the third movie.
kaisergrendel 2 years ago
Batman's relationship with the police in TDK is what I mean by SAS man, ie turning up at crime scenes, talking to Gordon regularly, helping out.
Him working with the police doesn't work he should be seperate to police / anything like that IMO which is also what I meant by 'in the shadows'.
E.g., the conversation with Gordon in the vault ("one man or the mob? He can wait") comes accross as corny when he's standing there in a Bat suit under bright lights. Continued...
PeteFD1986 2 years ago
The general feeling in TDK is he is a common citizen trying to clean up the streets, as Harvey Dent puts it. Even a reporter asks him if they are working with him. He isnt a mysterious figure/ creature of the night in DK.
And when confronting criminals, IMO let the suit do the talking more than the voice, otherwise it diminishes rthe suits purpose. I like the mystery 1989 gives off less is more.
I take your point though that the end of DK they conclude him n police isnt practical anymore.
PeteFD1986 2 years ago
here is the fault of your comparison ur comparing the 1st movie of a series to a second movie of a series.Batman begins he is seen as not human criminals see his as creature in reports and they dont know what he is. By the end of Batman89 he sends a letter to the police saying to call him if evil ever returns now. In batman returns he is not seen as a creature is he much more in the media. And batman only talks to gordon wen MCU do call him in TDK he doesnt answer
batman93oo 2 years ago
This set the standard. The feel of this movie, and the level of quality has yet to be matched, I believe. Nothing against the new interpretations, but this is what it's all about.
waynetech10 3 years ago 2
wow cant wait for this to come out!! jk
but i think the new ones were way better
morevidzz 3 years ago