The doctor who hears voices part 5

[EnergyOM]

6:55 And the psycharists wonder why people that are bipolar or someother so called "mental illness" get aggressive sometimes, when they get forced to take drugs and take their freedom away.^^

[thestrugglewithin]

WOW

"who am I?"

is a TROUBLING QUESTION.

Yes. Indeed.

Don't think outside the box! thats troublesome! oooo!

Don't think any differently from others because HEY going against the grain equates to abnormality since what is NORMAL is actually just common in most things. :/

[candiceevans1]

man,,,hearing this from the view of an American,,,I cant imagine the psychiatrists coming and forcing someone into treatment,,,,is it really treatment if youre being forced into a mental institution? This is what we will see in the USA if we dont wake up,,,governments job is not to keep you safe,,,Governments job is to protect your rights,,,,please WAKE UP AMERICA B/F WE LIVE IN A SNITCH SOCIETY OF POWER MAD NINNYS

[TheStrawberryNinja]

@candiceevans1

I may be reading what you wrote wrong, but sections/forms exist already in the USA and Canada. You can be hospitalized against your will if deemed unsafe to yourself or others. I am in Canada, and have been sectioned many times, my longest stay in a psychiatric lock up ward being ten years (from age 13 - 23).

[TheStrawberryNinja]

@candiceevans1 (Part 2)

In there I was restrained and injected with potent anti-psychotics, tranquillizers and various other meds I didn't want to take. I was forced into a medical coma and was force fed via NG tubes, PEG tubes and Groshong lines. I ended up with permanent brain damage from being given unsafe doses of some meds. I was also sexually and physically abused by staff in the hospital, they never were caught, as no one believes the mentally ill over the words of the staff.

[TheStrawberryNinja]

@TheStrawberryNinja (Part 3)

After ten years and a lengthy court battle (my parents fought for years to get me out of there) I was finally let out, but was in even worse shape by then, than when I was first admitted in there. I got no help from being in there at all. Nowadays, I am living on in-home hospice care (I'm terminally ill, I have both physical and mental issues, the physical issues are a result of severe anorexia nervosa causing multi-organ failure, along with many other health issues)

[TheStrawberryNinja]

@TheStrawberryNinja (Part 4)

I'm so glad to be out of the psych wards,they never did me any good.I am still severely anorexic,I still hallucinate,self harm,depression,OCD,agoraphobi­a and severe PTSD(all these issues were caused by a life time of rape,abuse and going through FGM at 12 years old),but I feel it's better for me to be at home and with my parents,who love me and care for me.Being locked away in the hospital was torture,the way many patients are treated in psych wards is unbelievable.

[scumgod13]

Also, isnt she young to be a Dr.? Whats that about?

[EnergyOM]

@scumgod13 I know two female doctors that also look too young to be a doctor, but they are, some people are 25, 27 or over 30 and people can't see their age.

[fantasticanime2010]

wow this woman is an actor. sshes good. rufus makes me so MAD. hes ssuch an IDIOT making her refuse to take meds when she rly needed it.

[2010raindrops]

which schizophrenic wants help? My husband never wanted any help..years of persuasion still did not work............its a very , very difficult illness....it ruined our lives......I WISH I COULD HAVE HELPED STOP THE VOICES.....RIP JOHN

[shadeofteal]

Most people in crisis want help. It's just that more often than not they experience the "help" offered (or forced upon them) by mainstream psychiatry is experienced as a trauma on top of a trauma, and not as real help. It's not as much about fighting and stopping (suppressing) the voices as it is about accepting them, and finding meaning with them.

Sorry for your loss.

[2010raindrops]

@shadeofteal

I feel completely sad. it was as if the more i tried to help him, the more things became lost? there was never any mention of alternative therapies? The doctors ordered him to take medications, because to them injecting him with drugs, was the only solution? All i can say I lost him, and I miss him everday,

[stefanierose88]

"supportive restraints" lol yeah ok...no such thing doc

[shoegalsho]

This section was extremely moving for me. For some time I have felt that my mental illness was exacerbated by the fact the I am very very strong to the outside world yet inside I am extremely vulnerable. The strange thing is. After I began my medication something changed. My inner self became stronger. I was proud of how well I had become and was able to look back at my life FOR ONCE and go wow well done me! Before I thought my life was worthless bar manic episodes which I hated anyway.

[LeeAnne2001]

Shona, I too project a turtle shell to the outside world. I'm an old pro at it. I can remember once calling my doc in an anxious mood. And she was like, "Wow, that is anxiety I hear in your voice..." I never cried in therapy. My therapist cried, and I still didn't cry...

[shoegalsho]

All I can say on here is totally girl x

[RickMoonbeam]

I had a psychiatrist forced on me by the police some years back. He asked me if I heard voices and I told him I could hear his and it was one two many. Some weeks later I caught up with him and a social worker friend of his and hit them both quite hard. He's now trying to get my GP to gang up with him behind my back and have me sectioned. I'm a bad little mental patient you see. I can't stand the likes of either conventional psychiatrists or fake revolutionaries like Rufus.

[jenni560]

Do you mean you physically hit them? Sounds like you've also had bad experiences with psychiatry and I'm sorry to hear that they're trying to have you sectioned. I think you should know more about what Rufus does and perhaps understand that he's not a fake revolutionary, he probably wouldn't say he's a revolutionary at all but he is tring to change a system based on false premises of mental 'illness' and forced sectioning of people who need support rather than drugs or ECT.

[RickMoonbeam]

Real medical symptoms are either histopathological or pathphysiological. Claiming to hear voices are neither. Both Rufus and this psychiatrist are making a living out of this same illusion as both have no compunction in asserting that the voices are real.

[jenni560]

You need to re-evaulate what reality is...perhaps watch the matrix or read some good philosophy books (start with existentialism!).

I'll give you a start: reality is what a person perceives it to be. My reality is different from yours and I wouldn't try to deny your reality as this would undermine you as a person.

[CathySander]

@jenni560: I would like to say that the universe is large enough to encompass everyone's views. The Universe exists in and around us, in the stars and in our bodies.

[thestrugglewithin]

@jenni560 "the map is not the territory"

if you havent heard of this quote before, you should because you already know that perception is reality to the individual, even if false.

'the map is not the territory' comes from the founders of NLP; an undermined aspect of psychology.

[thestrugglewithin]

@RickMoonbeam

Do you have dreams?

Do you have dreams where you have characters (human or not) that speak to you?

Rufus maintains that these voices you have in dreams are no different.

Do you practice lucid dreaming?

Probably not, because if you did, you'd immediately see the sharp parallel to the irrationale of schizo voices and that of dream-characters dialogue.