Keith Olbermann: Death of Habeus Corpus

[s0673451]

everyone who votes republican (and frankly, most of the ones who vote democrat)or is in the military is an uncle tom and is helping end freedom in the us and abroad

[naesbutt]

DAMN LIEBERAL MEDIA!!

[God4Dunoon]

What???????

did you write this before you had your coffee

[Tarkona]

If you are too stupid to even consider the possibility, you deserve whatever Hell comes your way as a result. Aside from trying to spread the word, I have no idea what to do to further the cause of freedom for myself and my family.

[DSXmachine]

@Tarkona Ron Paul 2012

[Tarkona]

I've really taken an interest in this and other related subjects since 9-11. It gives me a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that gets worse every time I read a news article, watch a video or hear some ignorant people speak on the subject with such a dismissive (if not insulting) tone, saying things like "I can't believe you're stupid enough to buy that garbage." Or just look at you like you're crazy. To those people, I say this...

[TaTiska]

See "Sword of Damocles".

[Spazman173]

It's good to see someone in the media mad as hell about these atrocities.

[mannydib]

Darth Sidious, Adolf Hitler and George W. Bush

[Scotty7617]

"Whoever fights a monster should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster."

-Friedrich Nietzsche

[sdkee]

Liars are good. Live the lie. Go back to bed. The lies are ok, even maybe good for you. You don't want to know the truth. Your neighbor who got dragged off in a black hood was probably not a good person. He wanted to rape your children. Pay your taxes. JFK was killed by a lone nut. The economy is string, buy more bonds, send your kids to the military...

- Hypno-Toad

[leirgauk]

all hail hypno toad

[mose3]

"The power of the Executive to cast a man in prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government, whether Nazi or Communist."

-Winston Churchill

[PROCLAIMEROFTRUTH]

He would probably change his mind in todays world.

[mose3]

"The power of the Executive to cast a man in prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government, whether Nazi or Communist."

-Winston Churchill

[suntrace1]

Everyone who voted for Bush or supports this war in Iraq, that was started for no good reason, please volunteer to army and go to Iraq or Afghanistan. It's your duty! Uncle Sam needs you more than ever!

[ph0en1xxash]

I understand Afghanistan, but Iraq is no one's duty but the Iraqi people's. There is no military solution to Iraq. Only diplomacy can fix this debacle.

[PROCLAIMEROFTRUTH]

We have an all volunteer army... bonehead.... they make more damn money you make. Why dont you go live with whats left of Saddams family?

[ph0en1xxash]

I guess your cause is worth bitching about, but not worth fighting for huh? Is that yellow elephant I smell?

PS No way they make more than me. It's sad but true. They deserve much much more.

[PROCLAIMEROFTRUTH]

and you should go live with Saddams family.... whats left.

[macekid421]

Now I remember why I hate authority...

[gatefiend]

Goodbye rights. *Sighs.*

[KatanokiChaos]

Also, the ACLU Director stated, "The president can now, with the approval of Congress, indefinitely hold people without charge, take away protections against horrific abuse, put people on trial based on hearsay evidence, authorize trials that can sentence people to death based on testimony literally beaten out of witnesses, and slam shut the courthouse door for habeas petitions."

[KatanokiChaos]

Been doing research... quite a few people aren't too happy about this, it seems.

To quote Bill Goodman, director of the Center for Constitutional Rights, this bill's wording was so loose that it could actually be applied to anyone "engaged in hostilities or who has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States."

[KatanokiChaos]

"Olbermann is an idiot."

Ad hominem is the last resort of the weakened mind, my friend.

"Freedom isn't free and if you vote at all, think for yourself and go read the document (38 pages). If you are a citizen of this country at all, you can NOT be tried under this act regardless of what Olbermann says."

Who the hell said we didn't? You?

(Pt two coming in a second, this thing has a limit...)

[Atillatemoc]

This is some sad sad stuff...

[rocketsloth]

no, it sounds like i'm ashamed to be an american...when my fellow citizens, in the information age, choose to remain truly ignorant to what goes on in the world.

[earthacademy]

congrats to be one of the few Americans - with open eyes.

Don't listen to the other morons. They sold out their minds years ago.

[bdub232]

rocketsloth - sounds like you forgot your meds today.

[rocketsloth]

did you even watch the video? no one is "trying to find a way to put down republicans"...they're stating facts. if you give up your freedoms to be safe (and we're giving up HUGE freedoms here) then you don't deserve your freedoms or to be safe.

[rocketsloth]

you people are morons. pick up a history book. seriously, i fucking hate you. you're the ignorant fucks that make this shit happen again and again because you don't give a shit about learning from the mistakes of your ancestors.

[ph0en1xxash]

C'mon man, there's no need for name calling, and hate. They're just products of they're own ignorance. They let people like Limbaugh, Hannity, and O'Reily tell them how to think. And with a media like ours shouting all the GOP talking points, can you really blame them?

[ninja9827]

I am so sick and tired of these stupid libs always trying to find a way to put down Republicans...

It is possible to make any situation seem like a crises, our media does a well job of it.

This needs to stop...

[JuanchoMan]

ninja its not about partisan politics anymore, he wasnt dogging on republicans but on the president and his total disregard for the well being of america

[ph0en1xxash]

I don't know if you were watching the same video that I posted, but I don't think you understand what he was saying. This law infringes on our constitutional rights. There are a few republicans who opposed this law initially, but ended up being bullied into voting for it anyway. Hey, isn't this an election year?

[bdub232]

Hence the system of checks and balances.. I don't fear this becoming an issue  when one political opponent is fighting another for a position in office. It would be much too transparent.

[bdub232]

" Do you want this president or any president to come to have this power over the American People?"

No, to have power over scum-bag terrorists they capture on the battlefield.

[ph0en1xxash]

Well, since this is a "new kind of war", and the battlefield is all around us. Wouldn't that subject the American people to it as well? The government can make mistakes(DMV,IRS etc.), or they may wish to exploit this to use it against political opponents. I ask again. Do you trust ANY president to weild that power over you?

[abelard69]

Olbermann is an idiot. Freedom isn't free and if you vote at all, think for yourself and go read the document (38 pages). If you are a citizen of this country at all, you can NOT be tried under this act regardless of what Olbermann says.

[ph0en1xxash]

Why not? The description for enemy combatant is vague at best. If the president has the power to determine whether or not you are one, then you are subject to this act. Do you want this president or any president to come to have this power over the American People?

[tuff77]

Amazing speech! If you put up enough walls and surrender enough freedoms in the name of safety and security, your room soon looks like a prison cell...The safest place of all.

[BeyondDGrave]

dbub232, of course it's possible, terrorism is always possible. But that does not mean that we should exploit that fear for your own personal gains (bush).

[bdub232]

No, what I said was that taking power from the government in the US by it's citizens is possible, not that terrorism is possible:-/

Davey1977 - We haven't been attacked since 9-11 have we? You think that is an accident? It doesn't really matter what we do or where we do it, we are all "infidels" to the stupid terrorists, and they will try to kill us no matter what. Were we in Iraq on 9-11-2001? No, did we get attacked because we let out guard down? Yes.

[earthacademy]

not an accident, just part of the plan. If you believe MUSLIMS are the enemy, check your back garden again, there's a wolf in sheeps clothing getting ready for a snack.

[bdub232]

No not MUSLIMS, but RADICALIZED MUSLIMS.. they are the problem.

If there are radicalized Muslims in my back yard I will report them and watch them be taken in for questioning/deportation if they aren't legal citizens.

[Davey1977]

bdub, do you really think their actions are making you safer? Do you think that by destabilizing the mideast and totally ignoring Osama (if indeed he was even responsible for the attacks), that you are better off?

[bdub232]

When terrorists blow up a nuke in some major US or European city.. (or UK) you'll all eat your words. I think we need to give our government more tools to stop them. If they abuse the poser we give them, then take it back.. we live in a country where that is still possible.

[Lensei]

Yep. The point is that people have taken back the power before. Olbermann lists a few. Care to explain to the Japanese-Americans how their loss of property and freedom was good for the country?

Do we need to wait until these powers are openly abused to revoke them? Or can we recognise that imprisoning people forever doesn't really help us?

[BlacknWhitesAlright]

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner; liberty is a well-armed lamb." -Benjamin Franklin

And you would have us, the lamb, abandon our weapons to fight a ragged band of fundamentalists in the middle of the desert?

[JuanchoMan]

bdub were giving up the freedoms to do just that, we cant take it back through political means if we live in a dictatorship, duh... dont give up your freedoms for what might happen, another terrorist attack is (to me) a way better scenario than giving up the freedoms your forefathers fought and died for

[iloah666]

olbermann used to be such a douche.. im glad his station managers are finally letting him speak his mind rather than make him gossip about angelina jolies baby.. strong voice i like him a lot now!

[dudeonacloud]

My jaw dropped wide open when I first saw this a couple of nights ago. I never expected Keith Olbermann, or anyone else for that matter, to directly challange the President. Not to mention the little diss on our Attorney General. Wow! Thank God for Keith Olbermann, we've needed this to help America see the truth! To me Keith Olbermann is a true hero!!!

[MasterO2]

You obviously didn't see Colbert's Monologue at the 2006 Presidential Dinner. Bush looked like a total moron at the end of the night.

[Nebboy]

I can't believe I voted for Bush. This is bullshit! We cannot let him trample on the Constitution! I feel guilty for helping putting this facist into power.

[dudeonacloud]

Believe me you didn't put this facist into power, he did it all himself...well him and his henchmen (Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Rove, etc.)

[earthacademy]

well done sir, you are one of the few people, who get it!

thumbs up. :-)

[Briannathegreat]

Its alright, people were so badly fooled by this administration.

we are working to reverse the whole direction the Bush Administration is taking and YOU can do something to stop it.

Take a look at one of the videos on my profile with Olympia Dukakis from The World Can't Wait, Drive Out The Bush Regime! And then get involved with us to reverse the whole direction this regime was going.

If you are looking for a hero, look in the mirror.

[bdub232]

"" I bet Olbermann, will magicaly disapear one day. "He was a suspected...etc" ""

I hope he does..

[ph0en1xxash]

Why not? Freedom of speech is so pre 9/11 mentality, right? What has this country come to when our Bill of Rights gets torn to shreds, basically ensuring absolute power for this president and all who come after him?

[metrakos]

and who will protect u then?

[bdub232]

My guns

[sdogunlucky]

Yeah screw democracy right bdub?

[bdub232]

No, screw Olbermann and his lies.

[matthew12222]

I bet Olbermann, will magicaly disapear one day. "He was a suspected...etc"

[makeitcrynsing]

Go Olbermann! I like how at the end he says that the next president can imprison Bush without reason indefinetely and without the writ of Habeues Corpus using Bush's own act.

[rewinn]

Who is such a coward as to surrender our Constitution to buy a little illusory safety?

And who would be such a fool as to think that the federal government would voluntarily refrain abusing such power?

[BlacknWhitesAlright]

Amen.

[earthacademy]

Too right mate. :-)

[nicks56]

Your A dick Mate

[johndoeXLC]

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