native МК-17 =))) I personally stood on the wing for his first cord model on such a motor. was still such a motor so that МАРЗ 2.5 minutes per 20 plants pre-flight .=)))
and fuel for them: 25% mineral engine oil (best quality) 25% castor oil 25% diethyl ether, 25% kerosene. KEROSENE GRADE ONLY "КО-..."( not air !!!!)
You may use ether from quick start mix for carb engines. Before disassemble the cylinder, you need let off gas from it in position "buttom up". You may buy it in most car parts stores.
Hi, I have the motor and everything... But I lack instructions... :D do I only need to aplly the fuel for it to work. Could you make a video intructed how to assemble it :) I think people would appreciate it. btw, great video :)
Well I don't know what is, after 0:38 I can see the hole for the transparent tube for the gas I think, and under that one there is a bigger hole with a red ring, I wonder what it is used for.
I had another question about this engine, if you tight too much the compression, could it break the piston ?
That hole with a red ring is the intake used for vapourize the fule with air. As to the copression, if tight too much, it could tear or even break the connection rod of the piston.
Это не дизель, а, так называемый, компрессионный двигатель, у него есть свечка накаливания или что то вроде этого уже не помню, у меня дома где то такой же 1 в 1 движок валяется
Нет, это именно дизель! Сверху, если заметите - винт контрпоршня, которым регулируют степень сжатия. Свечи накаливания стоят в т.н. калильных двигателях, как раз на месте винта контрпоршня, и степень сжатия там не меняется.
I have MK-17 also, its useless but i have tested it several times. Hard to start but runs good. Fuel mixture is: 25% castor oil, 25% ether and 50% petrol.
This is not a diesel engine. Though, it has no ignition system, but it just have carburetor and sucks methanol-air mixture in. actually it's a compression ignited two stroke Otto-engine.
Thanks. You are exactly right. I found on EBAY this type of model engine is simply categorized into diesel to distinguish from glow engine, so I just simpy followed it. I know a real diesel engine has a high pressure spray mechanism and it normally work in four stroke mode. Thank you again for your correction.
So, I think I must correct further what you say. It's not neccessary that the diesel engine works as a four-stroke only. There're two-stroke diesel engines, too. For example, the older diesel locomotives have got that kind of power source because they've got better weight-power ratio than their four-stroke equivalent. Why they aren't applied nowadays is that they need expensive superchargers and they've got very bad emissions. Regards
Dozens of flips at the very beginning should be necessary. It's hard to start it in cold weather. Prime the engine(apply 1 to 2 drops of fuel directly into the cylinder) before start it, but not flud---it's important. Adjust the compression ratio till you hear the "Pop" while flipping, then loose the fuel needle till it run continuously, then adjust the compression ration again to run it smoothly and powerfully combining the adjustment of the fuel needle. Good luck!
native МК-17 =))) I personally stood on the wing for his first cord model on such a motor. was still such a motor so that МАРЗ 2.5 minutes per 20 plants pre-flight .=)))
and fuel for them: 25% mineral engine oil (best quality) 25% castor oil 25% diethyl ether, 25% kerosene. KEROSENE GRADE ONLY "КО-..."( not air !!!!)
Olegich94 1 year ago
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Olegich94 1 year ago
Thanks :)
vdani666 1 year ago
balls of steel, starting that thing with your finger
jimbob172 1 year ago
this engine is a pain in the ass to start
hoppper26 1 year ago
I can't start mine can some tell me how to?
hoppper26 1 year ago
Hello, i from russia, and this motor from my childhood)))) mk 17 is bad, mk 16 rulezz)))))
olimpicwhite 2 years ago
@olimpicwhite для многих этот мотор осколком детства стал:)
Granit1973 3 weeks ago
can you run this engine with a flywheel unstead of a propeller????
kjs12224 2 years ago
same fuel tank as whats in my 1:10 nitro buggy :P
watsdissniffinere 2 years ago
In my country de eather is illegal :( but i have an mk-17
vdani666 3 years ago
@vdani666
You may use ether from quick start mix for carb engines. Before disassemble the cylinder, you need let off gas from it in position "buttom up". You may buy it in most car parts stores.
Agent868 1 year ago
Hi, I have the motor and everything... But I lack instructions... :D do I only need to aplly the fuel for it to work. Could you make a video intructed how to assemble it :) I think people would appreciate it. btw, great video :)
Renemies 3 years ago
hi, can any body tell me where to get fuel???
nomi86cool 3 years ago
Here I bought from local chemical material store
mazhongsong 3 years ago
@nomi86cool efir - castor oil - kerosin(disel fluel0
veniaminuska 1 year ago
what is the fuel ???
nemanume 3 years ago
I was using kerosene(1/3), aether(1/3) and castor oil(1/3).
mazhongsong 3 years ago 2
What is the big holeat the back with the red ring used for ? Thanks
o0JohnnyReb0o 3 years ago
Are you talking about the intake?
mazhongsong 3 years ago
Well I don't know what is, after 0:38 I can see the hole for the transparent tube for the gas I think, and under that one there is a bigger hole with a red ring, I wonder what it is used for.
I had another question about this engine, if you tight too much the compression, could it break the piston ?
Thanks !
o0JohnnyReb0o 3 years ago
That hole with a red ring is the intake used for vapourize the fule with air. As to the copression, if tight too much, it could tear or even break the connection rod of the piston.
mazhongsong 3 years ago
Mini meat grinder..
nswiss1975 3 years ago
looks like it only has a rear bearing
30GB 3 years ago
Это не дизель, а, так называемый, компрессионный двигатель, у него есть свечка накаливания или что то вроде этого уже не помню, у меня дома где то такой же 1 в 1 движок валяется
Woodykrsk 3 years ago
Спасибо
mazhongsong 3 years ago
Нет, это именно дизель! Сверху, если заметите - винт контрпоршня, которым регулируют степень сжатия. Свечи накаливания стоят в т.н. калильных двигателях, как раз на месте винта контрпоршня, и степень сжатия там не меняется.
estrokin 3 years ago
Did you build this little thing from a kit or?
RiceReaper 3 years ago
Well I just find what is needed and join them together.
mazhongsong 3 years ago
RC fans prefer to call it diesel engine comparing to glow engine. Actually it doesn't use real diesel as fuel.
mazhongsong 3 years ago
2 stroke engine?
nitrogeb 3 years ago
correct
mazhongsong 3 years ago
Petrol?(Gasoline?) MK-17 is the easiest one to start among my collections of compression ignition engines.
mazhongsong 3 years ago
I have MK-17 also, its useless but i have tested it several times. Hard to start but runs good. Fuel mixture is: 25% castor oil, 25% ether and 50% petrol.
tonskulus 3 years ago
its not real diesel!!!!!!
zrili 4 years ago
How does this engine work? Do you adjust the compression on the top? :S
Cool engine by the way!
NetZor 4 years ago
It's compression ignition engine. The proper adjustment of the rod on the top is crucial for smooth starting and running.
mazhongsong 3 years ago
Very easy to flood a diesel and bend a connecting rod, so be careful.
MissileMist 4 years ago
Put your finger in it now.
haphit 4 years ago
This is not a diesel engine. Though, it has no ignition system, but it just have carburetor and sucks methanol-air mixture in. actually it's a compression ignited two stroke Otto-engine.
BMW620 4 years ago
Thanks. You are exactly right. I found on EBAY this type of model engine is simply categorized into diesel to distinguish from glow engine, so I just simpy followed it. I know a real diesel engine has a high pressure spray mechanism and it normally work in four stroke mode. Thank you again for your correction.
mazhongsong 4 years ago
So, I think I must correct further what you say. It's not neccessary that the diesel engine works as a four-stroke only. There're two-stroke diesel engines, too. For example, the older diesel locomotives have got that kind of power source because they've got better weight-power ratio than their four-stroke equivalent. Why they aren't applied nowadays is that they need expensive superchargers and they've got very bad emissions. Regards
BMW620 4 years ago
Thanks a lot for your professional information. Best regards.
mazhongsong 4 years ago
my friend has a diesel two, but we can't start it, does it need pre heating?
calmatosport 4 years ago
Dozens of flips at the very beginning should be necessary. It's hard to start it in cold weather. Prime the engine(apply 1 to 2 drops of fuel directly into the cylinder) before start it, but not flud---it's important. Adjust the compression ratio till you hear the "Pop" while flipping, then loose the fuel needle till it run continuously, then adjust the compression ration again to run it smoothly and powerfully combining the adjustment of the fuel needle. Good luck!
mazhongsong 4 years ago
did you use diesel or gasoline to start it? cause i have one exactly the same and i'd like to try an start it
mythril225 4 years ago
I was using kerosene(1/3), aether(1/3) and castor oil(1/3). Good luck!
mazhongsong 3 years ago