3 And God said, Let there be light- understanding: and there was light- understanding.
4 And God saw the light (understanding), that it was good (the now Concealed Good): and God divided the light (understanding) from the darkness (obscurity, ignorance.)
2 And the abode (memory) of departed spirits was without form, and void (empty); and darkness (obscurity) was upon, in front of, to the front of, in the presence of the exceedingly mysterious, that which is far off. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face, in the presence of the waters, the course set, the wasted semen springing forth.
1 To start with, at the head of the year, eh-lo-HIYM shaped and fashioned the heights and elevations, the thoughts and intelligence of the abode (memory) of the departed spirits, preparing a place for them in the Father's house which is life everlasting to rein with Christ an eternal inheritance a deliverance from all evils.
SINCERELY, I'm just trying to see your logic as it applies to the Word of God. I am LQQKing forward to your response, as this is a serious issue that needs to be clarified. Thank you.
Furthermore, I agree that the book of Enoch is meant for this generation as God's Divine Word. However, we have no place to force anything. That is God's job..not ours. I'm just trying to understand your reasoning on "forcing" the coming of Christ. I believe the Bible itself is very clear about God's will be done: therefore, forcing anything of God is not only outside His will but an outright arrogant sacrilege (as then it's our will be done not His).
Serious questions: Your text at the opening of this video says "WE can force the Lord's coming." If everything has a place and season and everything is in its place and season, then why would we want to "force" ANYTHING. That's almost like saying God's providence alone is not enough and we can appoint the time of God's will come to pass. There is a reason that Jesus has not returned. Meaning possibly all those that must be sealed are not. Please expound?
@ChildOTheCloth Don't get me wrong, but you are misquoting me and then condemning me based on your misunderstanding. I said we can "force the ISSUE." This is with regard to men. If we force the issue with men, then we will be causing men to justify their position against Jude and the other NT writings. Peter is the one who says that we can 'speed the Lord's coming." (2 Pet 3:12.)
@ChildOTheCloth I am sorry that you think that my saying is "arrogant." I was only agreeing with Peter. I don't believe that agreeing with Jude and Peter is sacrilege. As a matter of fact, I believe that negating Jude and Peter is sacrilege, which is what the Church did and continues to do to this day.
This is very intersting probablly true but dont let it get you away from the important things. Like Jesus died for our sins and rose from the dead and now prepares a place for us and is coming back soon!!
I think it's interesting that Enoch mentions the "tongues of fire." We see this at Pentecost
3They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them. (Acts 2)
I'm not sure that this is the metaphor to be conveyed here, but it's something to keep in mind as these fire tongues are mentioned in later parts. They also seem to be connected with cherubim
@serlot56 Very interesting observation! These are the kind of clues that lead to higher meanings. The "tongues of fire" are probably the words of judgment that those who are inspired by the Holy Spirit that overcome the world through the blood of the lamb and the Word of their Testimony.
@rabcmcdee1981 This is what I did with this part. I paused the speaker. I read what was on the screen. Sometimes you must ask yourself if what is being read glorifies the word of God. It does as it ties into what the living word of the Bible tells us. It fits what the other prophets spoke. I paused and read then started over at the beginning. Then the Book of Enoch made more sense. When you pause it and read then go back the keys fit. Please I hope you give it another listen.
I recently wrestled a demons alien, had tentacles. I wonder if there is any mention anywhere concerning tentacles and spirits. I am fasting and seeking God.
All in all my personal experiences remind me of the movie "Rosemaries Baby" and some things of the movie the Matrix which i did not see, but only a view scenes on youtube. Soldiers have Indian/Black/Arab roots, see for the level of power the Ripley Scroll middle section with the water basin where they stand on all corners.
In my own case i got in touch with a "soldier" of whom i thought to have a son, but it wasn't his and i did not sleep concious with someone else. While giving birth to my son in hospital i was congratulated by a very tall old grey man who turned out to be not a doctor but a mystery later, boss/alchemist of the supposed "father" ?. Because of a punishment occult ceremony in 2002 with my son, while probably also drugged before, i recently studied all occult we experienced from that time.
they had to write more specific how one could recognize a watcher when there is no mercy. Also why there is no mercy ?, so these women are punished twice while i assume God created these evil ones and is to blame, also for discriminating women. So from Adam women are only created to be blamed for destruction of several things God created and for selfish reasons of others.
The angels are tested just as people are. Hebrews tells us that angels are the servants of men. Also, Paul tells us that we are to judge the angels. They are learning humility and servitude the same as us. In a strange way, we are important to them, as we try their patience, etc., by being 'human." The Book of Adam and Eve lets us know that Lucifer and his angels did not wish to serve mankind, as they were both before men and "better."
Also, as the rest of the Scriptures bear out, whatever the truth of what is said on the surface, all Scripture is characterized by some kind of other, parabolic meaning. Women, for instance, because of their beauty, as well as their "child-bearing," serve as great metaphors, although you have to be willing to step back a little from yourself to see why. See, Enoch starts out by telling us that his work is a parable. Whether any of this is historically accurate is somewhat beside the point.
When the "angels" defile themselves with the "daughters of men," it means that since the "daughters of men" are capable of "bringing forth," what could that possibly mean on a parabolic level? Well, it is the same as all the "works" of men. It says that these angels saw that the "daughters of men" were "beautiful" and "comely." This means basically that men's deeds, their "teachings," their "enterprises" and all other things that perpetuate themselves, customs, traditions, etc., were god.
The "Giants," therefore, would represent really big ideas, enterprises, etc., that would "Engender," or "Bring Forth," or "Give birth to" other, even bigger ideas and endeavors, etc. These angels and their "giants" were their effort to cause mankind to destroy itself. We see them called the "Mighty Men of Old" in Genesis. We have basically the same thing today. The "Mighty Men" of today are our "Corporate Giants," our "Career Politicians," "Movie Stars" and "powerful people."
I mean, you could see it as sexist I suppose, but it isn't, really. Even Paul talks about how women should pray with their heads "Covered" because of the ANGELS. Clearly there were no angels or "Sons of God" or "Giants" recorded in Paul's day. He even goes so far as to say that he is speaking a great "Mystery." When he speaks of the man and the woman, he is speaking of Christ and the Church. Christ is the "Husband," and the Church is the "Bride."
For the Church, therefore, it is necessary to "Cover Her Head." It just means that we should not be open to the teachings of the evil angels. We should "Cover our Head" by being submissive to our "Husband," which is Christ.
This is very true and i never did, but nevertheless i got into this evil angels affair with getting my son and being blackmailed with him in order to force to join the evil, which i will never. It is the people on the lower shift of the pyramid that were forced into like they try me, that are the danger to humankind. What is a mighty man, a Seer/ALCHEMIST !!!!! without earthly "soldiers"?!. While that world is devided into levels of power, the way to good and God isn't.
The whole problem is that people who step forwards to tell about their events with this evil are ridiculed, get lost in seduction or disappear. Read a preview on internet of the IRT affair in Haarlem, book: Cowboys aan het Spaarne from writer journalist Alard Blesse to get an inside look on how people are forced into etc. Homeless and addicted people who are the soldiers that were forced into to work as the soldiers without soul/feeling to get to force normal people to go work for Alchemists
You are God's child :) It is good!
meshel2012 2 months ago
3 And God said, Let there be light- understanding: and there was light- understanding.
4 And God saw the light (understanding), that it was good (the now Concealed Good): and God divided the light (understanding) from the darkness (obscurity, ignorance.)
meshel2012 2 months ago
2 And the abode (memory) of departed spirits was without form, and void (empty); and darkness (obscurity) was upon, in front of, to the front of, in the presence of the exceedingly mysterious, that which is far off. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face, in the presence of the waters, the course set, the wasted semen springing forth.
meshel2012 2 months ago
Yes I understand, Genesis 1
1 To start with, at the head of the year, eh-lo-HIYM shaped and fashioned the heights and elevations, the thoughts and intelligence of the abode (memory) of the departed spirits, preparing a place for them in the Father's house which is life everlasting to rein with Christ an eternal inheritance a deliverance from all evils.
meshel2012 2 months ago
bible is a lie
DaTruthsHere 3 months ago
@DaTruthsHere how is the bible a lie?
kaychikybabexo 1 month ago
It's good that you changed the wording! Thanks for the clarification!
ChildOTheCloth 4 months ago
SINCERELY, I'm just trying to see your logic as it applies to the Word of God. I am LQQKing forward to your response, as this is a serious issue that needs to be clarified. Thank you.
ChildOTheCloth 4 months ago
Furthermore, I agree that the book of Enoch is meant for this generation as God's Divine Word. However, we have no place to force anything. That is God's job..not ours. I'm just trying to understand your reasoning on "forcing" the coming of Christ. I believe the Bible itself is very clear about God's will be done: therefore, forcing anything of God is not only outside His will but an outright arrogant sacrilege (as then it's our will be done not His).
ChildOTheCloth 4 months ago
Serious questions: Your text at the opening of this video says "WE can force the Lord's coming." If everything has a place and season and everything is in its place and season, then why would we want to "force" ANYTHING. That's almost like saying God's providence alone is not enough and we can appoint the time of God's will come to pass. There is a reason that Jesus has not returned. Meaning possibly all those that must be sealed are not. Please expound?
ChildOTheCloth 4 months ago
@ChildOTheCloth Don't get me wrong, but you are misquoting me and then condemning me based on your misunderstanding. I said we can "force the ISSUE." This is with regard to men. If we force the issue with men, then we will be causing men to justify their position against Jude and the other NT writings. Peter is the one who says that we can 'speed the Lord's coming." (2 Pet 3:12.)
Apocryphile1970 4 months ago
@ChildOTheCloth I am sorry that you think that my saying is "arrogant." I was only agreeing with Peter. I don't believe that agreeing with Jude and Peter is sacrilege. As a matter of fact, I believe that negating Jude and Peter is sacrilege, which is what the Church did and continues to do to this day.
Apocryphile1970 4 months ago
This is very intersting probablly true but dont let it get you away from the important things. Like Jesus died for our sins and rose from the dead and now prepares a place for us and is coming back soon!!
jinxyou100 8 months ago
I think it's interesting that Enoch mentions the "tongues of fire." We see this at Pentecost
3They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them. (Acts 2)
I'm not sure that this is the metaphor to be conveyed here, but it's something to keep in mind as these fire tongues are mentioned in later parts. They also seem to be connected with cherubim
serlot56 11 months ago
@serlot56 Very interesting observation! These are the kind of clues that lead to higher meanings. The "tongues of fire" are probably the words of judgment that those who are inspired by the Holy Spirit that overcome the world through the blood of the lamb and the Word of their Testimony.
Apocryphile1970 11 months ago
sounds more like words from the devil
rabcmcdee1981 11 months ago
@rabcmcdee1981 This is what I did with this part. I paused the speaker. I read what was on the screen. Sometimes you must ask yourself if what is being read glorifies the word of God. It does as it ties into what the living word of the Bible tells us. It fits what the other prophets spoke. I paused and read then started over at the beginning. Then the Book of Enoch made more sense. When you pause it and read then go back the keys fit. Please I hope you give it another listen.
shinnob 11 months ago
I can here truth in this.
Stonefactor 1 year ago
i like your reading :)
ILOVEYOURWAY1 1 year ago
I recently wrestled a demons alien, had tentacles. I wonder if there is any mention anywhere concerning tentacles and spirits. I am fasting and seeking God.
PHANTOMSLAYER777 1 year ago
All in all my personal experiences remind me of the movie "Rosemaries Baby" and some things of the movie the Matrix which i did not see, but only a view scenes on youtube. Soldiers have Indian/Black/Arab roots, see for the level of power the Ripley Scroll middle section with the water basin where they stand on all corners.
Allyredstar 2 years ago
In my own case i got in touch with a "soldier" of whom i thought to have a son, but it wasn't his and i did not sleep concious with someone else. While giving birth to my son in hospital i was congratulated by a very tall old grey man who turned out to be not a doctor but a mystery later, boss/alchemist of the supposed "father" ?. Because of a punishment occult ceremony in 2002 with my son, while probably also drugged before, i recently studied all occult we experienced from that time.
Allyredstar 2 years ago
they had to write more specific how one could recognize a watcher when there is no mercy. Also why there is no mercy ?, so these women are punished twice while i assume God created these evil ones and is to blame, also for discriminating women. So from Adam women are only created to be blamed for destruction of several things God created and for selfish reasons of others.
Allyredstar 2 years ago
The angels are tested just as people are. Hebrews tells us that angels are the servants of men. Also, Paul tells us that we are to judge the angels. They are learning humility and servitude the same as us. In a strange way, we are important to them, as we try their patience, etc., by being 'human." The Book of Adam and Eve lets us know that Lucifer and his angels did not wish to serve mankind, as they were both before men and "better."
Apocryphile1970 2 years ago
Also, as the rest of the Scriptures bear out, whatever the truth of what is said on the surface, all Scripture is characterized by some kind of other, parabolic meaning. Women, for instance, because of their beauty, as well as their "child-bearing," serve as great metaphors, although you have to be willing to step back a little from yourself to see why. See, Enoch starts out by telling us that his work is a parable. Whether any of this is historically accurate is somewhat beside the point.
Apocryphile1970 2 years ago
When the "angels" defile themselves with the "daughters of men," it means that since the "daughters of men" are capable of "bringing forth," what could that possibly mean on a parabolic level? Well, it is the same as all the "works" of men. It says that these angels saw that the "daughters of men" were "beautiful" and "comely." This means basically that men's deeds, their "teachings," their "enterprises" and all other things that perpetuate themselves, customs, traditions, etc., were god.
Apocryphile1970 2 years ago
The "Giants," therefore, would represent really big ideas, enterprises, etc., that would "Engender," or "Bring Forth," or "Give birth to" other, even bigger ideas and endeavors, etc. These angels and their "giants" were their effort to cause mankind to destroy itself. We see them called the "Mighty Men of Old" in Genesis. We have basically the same thing today. The "Mighty Men" of today are our "Corporate Giants," our "Career Politicians," "Movie Stars" and "powerful people."
Apocryphile1970 2 years ago
I mean, you could see it as sexist I suppose, but it isn't, really. Even Paul talks about how women should pray with their heads "Covered" because of the ANGELS. Clearly there were no angels or "Sons of God" or "Giants" recorded in Paul's day. He even goes so far as to say that he is speaking a great "Mystery." When he speaks of the man and the woman, he is speaking of Christ and the Church. Christ is the "Husband," and the Church is the "Bride."
Apocryphile1970 2 years ago
For the Church, therefore, it is necessary to "Cover Her Head." It just means that we should not be open to the teachings of the evil angels. We should "Cover our Head" by being submissive to our "Husband," which is Christ.
Apocryphile1970 2 years ago
This is very true and i never did, but nevertheless i got into this evil angels affair with getting my son and being blackmailed with him in order to force to join the evil, which i will never. It is the people on the lower shift of the pyramid that were forced into like they try me, that are the danger to humankind. What is a mighty man, a Seer/ALCHEMIST !!!!! without earthly "soldiers"?!. While that world is devided into levels of power, the way to good and God isn't.
How can i get out??
Allyredstar 2 years ago
The whole problem is that people who step forwards to tell about their events with this evil are ridiculed, get lost in seduction or disappear. Read a preview on internet of the IRT affair in Haarlem, book: Cowboys aan het Spaarne from writer journalist Alard Blesse to get an inside look on how people are forced into etc. Homeless and addicted people who are the soldiers that were forced into to work as the soldiers without soul/feeling to get to force normal people to go work for Alchemists
Allyredstar 2 years ago
you should do a audio on the book of adam and eve,that will be a blessing.
elohimthegods33 2 years ago
you are doing a great job with this!
nowheretorun1984 2 years ago
Thanks. I have been meaning to do this book for a long time, and I really don't know what prevented me from doing it sooner.
Apocryphile1970 2 years ago