@permatroll what? he was fucking pro! and he's a friend of mine, so you're a RACIST fuck for jumping to conclusions, but yes i am racist as fuck against chinks and wetbacks, but i make exceptions for few
I would like to bring up a question on service if anyone can offer some opinions..
Recently 2010 and 2011 I have been noticing when Wang Ho serves he throw the ball back almost at 45 degree angle and sometimes hit the ball at the highest point since the ball is almost in a horizontal flight path when throwing back like he did. 2 things, the rule is asking for straight up and down, 2nd you touch the ball
Just in case you do not have the rules of table tennis ready.. here is the rule "2.6.2 The server shall then project the ball near vertically upwards, without imparting spin, so that it rises at least 16cm after leaving the palm of the ...."
Ok since so many people want a translation. This is a post-training exercise that is used to relieve stress. Ma long sets up the paddle and you have to serve it between the net and the paddle. Liu Guo Liang is saying that anyone on the national team can serve that low regularly but when they are asked to do so, their mentalities changes. The pressure cause irregularities in you rmind so you arent able to perform regularly. The point is to just play with a normal mind set.
i can only remember the end having just watched it. its saying how Liu Guoliang could hit the camera, and then they could all do it. and how this is just a little game after the olympics because he likes to keep a happy/gaming spirit in his team
Even though it's amazing, toss is illegal. If that stupid toss rule wasn't approved, you can see that serve effective. I think Ma Long copied the service style from Lui as their toss are the same.
He tosses the ball too horizontal almost not rising. If you ask the President and other umpires, they will say Ma Long always does it too even Wang Hao sometimes. This kind of toss will be the same with high toss ones as it will help with the speed and spin on the ball.
How about He Zhi Wen? I think pips out players like Liu Gouliang and He Zhi Wen have done a good job in serving with a pips out rubber. Very tricky. Watch how He Zhi Wen owned Schlager.
Liu gouliang was a pips out player and won many world ranked titles with a pips out rubber. (Clippa FH and Mendo BH, which he seldom used). Yes in this video, he was using a smooth rubber. He is just making a demo. Maybe he used Ma Lin's blade or Wang Hao.
He zhi wen's serve? Yes, personally it's not that good because it's just a simple fast ball with a side spin and with proper direction.
Good serving is not about giving the ball tremendous spin, It's about placement & 3rd ball attack.
And about China knowing something that people in europe dont know has to do with ourself I think. If we see a chinese player playing TT, in the back of your mind you think he must be good cos he is chinese. Also the mistery of the people in china have the same eyes, very look alike apearances and when they play a match they never get angry or laugh or show emotions. Thats in my opinion what makes us think they are so good. anyway thats my opinion about it, dont attack me if you think im wrong :)
I once was in China for a few weeks and saw them practicing, I was there to watch them. They practice all day long with little pauses of few minuts in between and at 8 o clock at night they stop to eat and watch their training videos, match videos and talk with their coaches. Then they go to bed and the next day the same thing all over again. If you compare this to trainings in europe, young talented players practice 4-6 hours a day, no wonder why chinese have alot more top players.
You were allowed to watch them? I thought it was a big secret. I think the key to China dominancy in table tennis isn't just practice time, but it also has to do with tactics, philosophy, and knowledge of the sport. Perhaps China knows something about the sport that the world doesn't know. Other communist countries have the same traing program as China, but they didn't do well, namely North Korea and Vietnam.
yep i was allowed to watch them and even practice with them, not all day but still a few hours. They also gave me useful hints. Maybe they know something bout the sport that we dont know, but tbh i think its all about practice. For example what i saw in china was that they dont practice with exercices but just a few shots. In my club they make long exercices which we have to do for 15 min, in china they do 1 shot for about an hour. They also got alot of coaches in china, in europe not so much
Yeah, that's a nice idea, one shot per hour, like an assembly line. After so many hours and so many days, one can put all the shots to use. Great idea.
First of all, if you want to be good in any sports, you must give up your human rights => Your couch can kill your ass any time. => No fooling around.
Also, even if China doesn't know anything that the world doesn't know about table tennis, they would still dominant. First of all, they're a communist country with millions of people playing the sport. As a result, they have more talents there. Once a talent is found, the government invest in him or her. Unlike in Europe or America, we are on our own. Until we make a name for ourselves, no one sponsors us. In China, everything is paid for by the government. Sports is like a military branch.
Uhmmm, Mr. Brain-Bleached, as long as you keep on shouting out non-sense without basing your arguments on any facts. Is China a communist country or is it not?
No matter what it is, in this century it will kick your ass in everything. Table tennis is just a minor issue.
I admire your national pride, but it is you who are not speaking the facts. China is a communist country simply because they represent themselves as such. Anyhow, no one knows what the future will hold, but as of now China is still considered a developing country. Base on that fact, your agrument about her is totally false. If you deny that China is not a developing country, then there's not point having this discussion.
China's official ideology is "socialism with Chinese characteristics". But US media and politicians label China as "red commie" so American boys will be willing to die fighting China.
Of course I know that. You don't have to tell me. I was trying to educate the morons who were against the very fact that China is a communist nation. Perhaps you didn't read the initial comments that led to the current ones.
I think he's a better server than Waldner because he scored more aces than Waldner did. However, Waldner is a better overall player, who's better at rallying than Liu. Even Waldner had a difficult time returning Liu's serves. If Liu's ranked #1 in having the best serve, then Waldner is only second to him. By the way, Liu earns an annual salary of around $110,000 as a Chinese head coach. That's an equivalent of $700K in the US, which puts him in the top upper middle-class. Not bad!
seems low but if you live in China you can live with that amount of money, you wont live like a king but you sure not poor then. He probably never has to work anymore if he stops coaching and same goes for the players. In europe if you are sub top or even a top player you still need a part time job to survive. Thats also why there is less good european players, they need to work,study and so on. In China when you got talent you play tabletennis all day long.
We're talking US currency, correct? If $700K is considered a middle-class income in China, then obviously it's in the lower-class in the US, which is not true. Perhaps you have a different definition of income classes than most people, demy..wu1. Dude, if you make a $100K in China, you can live very comfortably, let alone $700K.
Liu is Pimple out pendholder quick attack plush RPB.
Waldner is Pimple in shakehander loop plus quick attack.
Liu always tries to beat you in first 3 shots. Waldner is better after 3 shots, so his rally better. Kong Linghui has same style as waldner. Those 3 guys are all great and grand slam holders.
Liu's style is Chinese traditional style, only chinese can do it. but require younger age, becase it's QUICK. that's why Liu retire early.
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tonbuppa 3 weeks ago
theres literally thousands of balls scattered across the floor
BennDuong 1 month ago
wow
giorgosevaggelinos 1 month ago
no wonder Liu Guoliang is the head coach of the Chinese national table tennis team
xinkaihuang97 2 months ago 3
Ach du scheisse
bloboobolb 3 months ago
IS Liu Guoliang a TT Legend?
JUSfr34k 3 months ago
liu guoliang...a true legend
moe589 3 months ago 3
China is light years ahead in training mentally and physically.
ikarljoseph 6 months ago 4
Master Si Fu!
1kenny100 8 months ago
I BEAT AN ASIAN IN PING PONG 2 WEEKS AGO, greatest moment of my life haha
34steelers36 10 months ago
@34steelers36 die u rassist fuk
permatroll 8 months ago
@permatroll what? he was fucking pro! and he's a friend of mine, so you're a RACIST fuck for jumping to conclusions, but yes i am racist as fuck against chinks and wetbacks, but i make exceptions for few
34steelers36 8 months ago
@34steelers36 pls dont play with toddlers. they can smash your face yet.
daverock78 8 months ago
@daverock78 hey he was a sophmore, i was a senior, it was all fair
34steelers36 8 months ago
TT rules are ITTF rules which is international, you seem to be a very uninformed person about Table Tennis.
utahjai 10 months ago
any1 who plays shakehand have their pointer finger leading over the edge of the paddle?
rapidkill1000 11 months ago
I would like to bring up a question on service if anyone can offer some opinions..
Recently 2010 and 2011 I have been noticing when Wang Ho serves he throw the ball back almost at 45 degree angle and sometimes hit the ball at the highest point since the ball is almost in a horizontal flight path when throwing back like he did. 2 things, the rule is asking for straight up and down, 2nd you touch the ball
on it's down path. Is it still a valid rule?
utahjai 11 months ago
@utahjai u can throw however u want as long as u thro it 6 inches into the air
rapidkill1000 11 months ago
@rapidkill1000
Just in case you do not have the rules of table tennis ready.. here is the rule "2.6.2 The server shall then project the ball near vertically upwards, without imparting spin, so that it rises at least 16cm after leaving the palm of the ...."
utahjai 10 months ago
@utahjai
US is different from china
rapidkill1000 10 months ago
Liu serves fantastically
superwc1985 1 year ago
Ma Long is very kindly, he is different when he playing a match, and the chines player have a very Good coach - Liu Guoliang.
ZookaTo 1 year ago
The god of serving in action ^^
AsiaFighter94 1 year ago
Sick.
skyking166 1 year ago
no wonder he's the boss lol
rfan 1 year ago
awesome
chrisdarkfury 1 year ago
it's crazy how liu can serve that low everytime
jkim519 1 year ago
Ma Long looks like a very friendly guy. Always laughing!
XxsupergluexX 1 year ago 5
Liu lost like 20 lbs compare to 2 years ago, lol
jsjw2 1 year ago
Chinese language doesnt have ANY RRRRR In their language hahaha, Its so funny when chinese people try to speak swedish,, RRRRRRRRR
zoltar122 1 year ago
@zoltar122 there is one at 0:43.
YelDohan 1 year ago
@YelDohan Hmm not really a R
zoltar122 1 year ago
@zoltar122 try doing a research. a sample would be japan in mandarin. :) enjoy your mistake.
Jeffr3yBoy 1 year ago
@zoltar122
indeed, Chinese language doesn't have any RRRR(trilled-r) sound. But they do have the r sound!
pbps2005 1 year ago
Liu Guoliang was the best when he was a baldie...
Re1Mu2R3 1 year ago
Hahah Ma Long hahhahaha =) <3
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Matrixponnoob 1 year ago
wooooooo this is nice
betimsalihu 2 years ago
Man ! Liu Guolians serve is wicked !
nitroteddy01 2 years ago 2
Ma Long: "What da fuuuu...??? Y'all see dat?"
DouggyFresh619 2 years ago 50
@DouggyFresh619 i didn't see it!! wat time was it?
sweetkisses0333 1 year ago
ahaha loved that one m8 :P
Matrixponnoob 1 year ago
@DouggyFresh619 yea he liek the fuu im holding the paddle
aznelf13 1 year ago
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DouggyFresh619 2 years ago
太豪洨了 又轉又低 我也想這麼強
theclgy2001 2 years ago 9
wang liqin stands different in his serve.
kidchino2 2 years ago 3
CALLATE TU!
KaviHUH 2 years ago
ma long is crackin up
EnnesX 2 years ago 4
Ok since so many people want a translation. This is a post-training exercise that is used to relieve stress. Ma long sets up the paddle and you have to serve it between the net and the paddle. Liu Guo Liang is saying that anyone on the national team can serve that low regularly but when they are asked to do so, their mentalities changes. The pressure cause irregularities in you rmind so you arent able to perform regularly. The point is to just play with a normal mind set.
demystifiedwu1 2 years ago 127
Thank you for your accurate translation of what is going on in this video.
markchanggz 2 years ago 4
@demystifiedwu1 haha, the other unspoken point is that liu guoliang is a total legend and is still amazing :)
gsofficial 1 year ago
@demystifiedwu1 Thanks a lot for translate it.
ZeDuBreju 1 month ago
Arent Ma Long and Wang Liqin best friends?
TTPokemonLover 2 years ago
really? didnt know ^^
UsakoKirei 2 years ago
Yeah I think there are!
TTPokemonLover 2 years ago
what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!
simply amazing...
hdanih 2 years ago
haha i love the ending part when Wang Liqin tries and Liu is like, gimme the ball im gonna show you
RynkaB 2 years ago 5
he never said that lol stop making things up
demystifiedwu1 2 years ago
i didn't say that he acutally did it, i meant that it looked liked it
RynkaB 2 years ago
can anyone translate into english?
gastonfprom 2 years ago
i can only remember the end having just watched it. its saying how Liu Guoliang could hit the camera, and then they could all do it. and how this is just a little game after the olympics because he likes to keep a happy/gaming spirit in his team
hypertoxin 2 years ago
You didn't understand at all....
rosun82 2 years ago
mind gimme ur version then? *facepalm*
hypertoxin 2 years ago
What he talked about is training minds when facing pressure in this special way, it has nothing todo with happy spirit.
rosun82 2 years ago 2
That's God of Service!!!
ngwoonlam 2 years ago 2
the only thing i love about china is its table tennis ¡¡¡¡¡
retabiyo 2 years ago
your forgot the food. the food is also good xD
many thing is good, not "only" the table tennis
UsakoKirei 2 years ago
@UsakoKirei
Sorry, I just don't like in own blood boiled sneak for dinner... But the Chinees can play some serious tabletennis that's for sure!
3isico 1 month ago
toss the ball atleast six inches from an open palm. Ma Long did get called once for his toss at the WTTC but it seems to belegal
klu501 2 years ago
Even though it's amazing, toss is illegal. If that stupid toss rule wasn't approved, you can see that serve effective. I think Ma Long copied the service style from Lui as their toss are the same.
tabletennisplaya 2 years ago
How was that toss illegal? Please explain . . .
yuwen007 2 years ago
He tosses the ball too horizontal almost not rising. If you ask the President and other umpires, they will say Ma Long always does it too even Wang Hao sometimes. This kind of toss will be the same with high toss ones as it will help with the speed and spin on the ball.
tabletennisplaya 2 years ago
Fuck! These people played tabletennis for half of their life, they know better than you
rosun82 2 years ago
I know that that's why I'm just saying his toss is illegal. Ask any umpires and they'll tell you that.
tabletennisplaya 2 years ago 2
so professional!!
rpblcan 2 years ago 2
does anybody make a tribue of Liu gouliang?...i cant find and good movie about him on youtube...could someone send me a link plz..thanks alot
tuitenlabi 2 years ago
amazing
hirinhu 2 years ago
lol theyre so fucking amazing, hahaha those underspins are super heavy yo
BLUeCLimbers 2 years ago 7
Holy crap.
jfdude10 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I tried this.....not that hard to do!
caieros 2 years ago
try doing 100% with more spin
haydonlee93 2 years ago
Great Servers?
How about He Zhi Wen? I think pips out players like Liu Gouliang and He Zhi Wen have done a good job in serving with a pips out rubber. Very tricky. Watch how He Zhi Wen owned Schlager.
rikitoy 2 years ago 3
lui is not pips out and he zhi wen serve is not that good personally and cause zhi wen owned schlager once doesnt mean anything
haydonlee93 2 years ago
Liu gouliang was a pips out player and won many world ranked titles with a pips out rubber. (Clippa FH and Mendo BH, which he seldom used). Yes in this video, he was using a smooth rubber. He is just making a demo. Maybe he used Ma Lin's blade or Wang Hao.
He zhi wen's serve? Yes, personally it's not that good because it's just a simple fast ball with a side spin and with proper direction.
Good serving is not about giving the ball tremendous spin, It's about placement & 3rd ball attack.
rikitoy 2 years ago 5
illegal serve lol
He used his arm to hide the ball
That's why he retired so early lol
lampnmarco 2 years ago
they made that rule just to stop his domination. they banned his pips rubber to do the samething.
demystifiedwu1 2 years ago 4
pips out is not banned
haydonlee93 2 years ago
its not but the ybanned the specific one that he was using...
demystifiedwu1 2 years ago 4
most likely
he probably had some rubber made in some private factory that was handmade
haydonlee93 2 years ago
I think he used a TSP Spin Pips or something. I don't know why it was banned. But later on, he used the Stiga Clippa .
rikitoy 2 years ago
He is the best server in the world along with J.O Waldner
solidysnake1 2 years ago 2
Wake up. He can use his left hand to beat 11:0.
ngwoonlam 2 years ago
liu guoliang is beast
stevenjiii 2 years ago
hahahahahhaaaa...liu the best^^^^
yooungblood 2 years ago
And about China knowing something that people in europe dont know has to do with ourself I think. If we see a chinese player playing TT, in the back of your mind you think he must be good cos he is chinese. Also the mistery of the people in china have the same eyes, very look alike apearances and when they play a match they never get angry or laugh or show emotions. Thats in my opinion what makes us think they are so good. anyway thats my opinion about it, dont attack me if you think im wrong :)
kaikaz 2 years ago
I once was in China for a few weeks and saw them practicing, I was there to watch them. They practice all day long with little pauses of few minuts in between and at 8 o clock at night they stop to eat and watch their training videos, match videos and talk with their coaches. Then they go to bed and the next day the same thing all over again. If you compare this to trainings in europe, young talented players practice 4-6 hours a day, no wonder why chinese have alot more top players.
kaikaz 2 years ago
they dont do that all year. they do it during close doors sessions fwe months before major events.
demystifiedwu1 2 years ago
You were allowed to watch them? I thought it was a big secret. I think the key to China dominancy in table tennis isn't just practice time, but it also has to do with tactics, philosophy, and knowledge of the sport. Perhaps China knows something about the sport that the world doesn't know. Other communist countries have the same traing program as China, but they didn't do well, namely North Korea and Vietnam.
dankaren95 2 years ago
yep i was allowed to watch them and even practice with them, not all day but still a few hours. They also gave me useful hints. Maybe they know something bout the sport that we dont know, but tbh i think its all about practice. For example what i saw in china was that they dont practice with exercices but just a few shots. In my club they make long exercices which we have to do for 15 min, in china they do 1 shot for about an hour. They also got alot of coaches in china, in europe not so much
kaikaz 2 years ago
Yeah, that's a nice idea, one shot per hour, like an assembly line. After so many hours and so many days, one can put all the shots to use. Great idea.
dankaren95 2 years ago
First of all, if you want to be good in any sports, you must give up your human rights => Your couch can kill your ass any time. => No fooling around.
ngwoonlam 2 years ago 6
Also, even if China doesn't know anything that the world doesn't know about table tennis, they would still dominant. First of all, they're a communist country with millions of people playing the sport. As a result, they have more talents there. Once a talent is found, the government invest in him or her. Unlike in Europe or America, we are on our own. Until we make a name for ourselves, no one sponsors us. In China, everything is paid for by the government. Sports is like a military branch.
dankaren95 2 years ago
700 in RMB
demystifiedwu1 2 years ago
China is no longer a communist country.
luzok 2 years ago
Okay, Mr. Brain-Wash.
dankaren95 2 years ago
Uhmmm, Mr. Brain-Bleached, as long as you keep on shouting out non-sense without basing your arguments on any facts. Is China a communist country or is it not?
No matter what it is, in this century it will kick your ass in everything. Table tennis is just a minor issue.
luzok 2 years ago
I admire your national pride, but it is you who are not speaking the facts. China is a communist country simply because they represent themselves as such. Anyhow, no one knows what the future will hold, but as of now China is still considered a developing country. Base on that fact, your agrument about her is totally false. If you deny that China is not a developing country, then there's not point having this discussion.
dankaren95 2 years ago
China's official ideology is "socialism with Chinese characteristics". But US media and politicians label China as "red commie" so American boys will be willing to die fighting China.
americaninjustice 2 years ago
Not true.
dankaren95 2 years ago
Try to disagree with the government and find out if China is not a communist country... lol
Your ass will be in prison so fast...Oh, and forget about human rights!
imzadim 2 years ago
Of course I know that. You don't have to tell me. I was trying to educate the morons who were against the very fact that China is a communist nation. Perhaps you didn't read the initial comments that led to the current ones.
dankaren95 2 years ago
and that is because of their communistic ideology. Of course....
skeptiker1337 2 years ago
I think he's a better server than Waldner because he scored more aces than Waldner did. However, Waldner is a better overall player, who's better at rallying than Liu. Even Waldner had a difficult time returning Liu's serves. If Liu's ranked #1 in having the best serve, then Waldner is only second to him. By the way, Liu earns an annual salary of around $110,000 as a Chinese head coach. That's an equivalent of $700K in the US, which puts him in the top upper middle-class. Not bad!
dankaren95 2 years ago
er...110k in USD? even if you make 700k tahts pretty low for such an important person
demystifiedwu1 2 years ago
seems low but if you live in China you can live with that amount of money, you wont live like a king but you sure not poor then. He probably never has to work anymore if he stops coaching and same goes for the players. In europe if you are sub top or even a top player you still need a part time job to survive. Thats also why there is less good european players, they need to work,study and so on. In China when you got talent you play tabletennis all day long.
kaikaz 2 years ago
you cant imagine how little 700k is in china. i came from china and my family makes about few milloin a year yet we are pretty middle class
demystifiedwu1 2 years ago
DOLLARS NOT YEN
squashskunk 2 years ago
We're talking US currency, correct? If $700K is considered a middle-class income in China, then obviously it's in the lower-class in the US, which is not true. Perhaps you have a different definition of income classes than most people, demy..wu1. Dude, if you make a $100K in China, you can live very comfortably, let alone $700K.
dankaren95 2 years ago
different type players.
Liu is Pimple out pendholder quick attack plush RPB.
Waldner is Pimple in shakehander loop plus quick attack.
Liu always tries to beat you in first 3 shots. Waldner is better after 3 shots, so his rally better. Kong Linghui has same style as waldner. Those 3 guys are all great and grand slam holders.
Liu's style is Chinese traditional style, only chinese can do it. but require younger age, becase it's QUICK. that's why Liu retire early.
bigshotbigshotbig 2 years ago 3
Why are you telling us this? I think all true table tennis fans know that about Liu, Kong, and Walder.
dankaren95 2 years ago
One of the best servers of all time.
Liu and Waldner are the best I've seen.
xedvux 2 years ago 4
hahaha lol nice to see that even guys like ma long are impressed
NexxtGen 2 years ago 2
He is a chinese master.
tato4527 2 years ago
Crazy serve!!!!
myohmy0320 2 years ago 2
lol, other world class players in 5 do 1, he could do it all day long... hes truly a legend of the sport
MeckelBot 2 years ago 2
God of services o.O
david93fcb 2 years ago
wow, very nice found!!!
tanxu 2 years ago
If this is a recent interview/report, it looks like LGL lost some weight. Good for him. Now to studying those serves.
LdKo 2 years ago 2
wth.. even WLQ cant do it at first time.. good technique.. ma long is very promising player from china..
nervA86 2 years ago 4
honestly, ...he s the best of the best .....
serve,....technique....whatever it is ....that is unbelievable demonstration of serve
sweat126 2 years ago 6