Everyone talks about Bud. "Bud this" or "Bud that"... No pun intended, he is a marvelous player, but did you hear Gene Pokorny's AWESOME excerpt at 8:15? I haven't heard that lick played better than by good ol' Gene!
Interestingly enough, his pitch is definitely off a little but he plays it more musically than he ever did when he was younger. Listen to the BSO version with Roger Voisin....absolutely the best playing on that tune ever. Early Vacciano was close.
I've heard of his story! I also know few professional trumpeters who experienced the same damage! After long months of healing(first) and then rehabilitation they discover a completely new why of playing: They can play louder or smoother, they have a huge increase of their range!! and they play in a general way more easy !! So the case of this guy is not better than the others ... (only the fact that he was principal trumpet of CSO for a long time is fine.
@SchwarzeDose21 There are a thousand different ways to play this opening... and there are a thousands armchair quarterbacks who will tell you how much better it should be, and how Mahler this or that...if you are going to make a statement like that... explain for example why! What is it that should be done? Did you know Gustav Mahler?
he doesn't play exact on the pitch ! his C# (the middle and the low one) are too high, his F# toooo low !
He doesn't use the third slide to correct the pitch of the low C#, so he has to correct with his mouth (We heard It). But note after note (we know all how much it's difficult to keep a beautiful rich dark etc. sound on this opening!), he loses the right center and can't correct the F# !
@tydjibobo a few years after getting the job bud was in a car accident and his face hit the steering wheel splitting his lip leaving permanent nerve damage causing it to stay numb so he had to re-learn by repositioning the trumpet on his lips.
he doesn't play exact on the pitch ! his C# (the middle and the low one) are too high, his F# toooo low !
He doesn't use the third slide to correct the pitch of the low C#, so he has to correct with his mouth (We heard It). But note after note (we know all how much it's difficult to keep a beautiful rich dark etc. sound on this opening!), he loses the right center and can't correct the F# !
I think they sound better here than the two other times I heard them play Mahler 5, at Orchestra Hall and the Medinah Temple.. As far as sound I don't think I ever heard the CSO better.. the cool thing, is that I've been on that very stage in Cologne and played Mahler myself.
Nobody can come close to Bud Herseth! While I enjoy the LSO, none can compare with Bud...simple as that.
And yes, I am a trumeter, and I have no problem saying that I sound like a bunch of tin can falling down a hill compared to Mr. Herseth! He was awesome!
@passport287 Ghitalla, Vacciano, Johnson, Broils and Voisin were right there with him. We were so incredibly fortunate to have such great musicians playing lead trumpet in that era. Each had something great to say!
The hero worship going on in the comments to this video are meaningless; Herseth might have been a great trumpeter, but here he is out of tune and inarticulate on the triplets, as well as seeming to have a rather weak embouchure, or else partaking in silly vibrato.
If so I'd like to hear how you think the opening fanfare should be played...
I think Bud did a wonderful job in this video and I'm sure a lot of other people would agree that while this is not a perfect performance, I hear too many good things going on to not admire the talent being displayed by the CSO
I play the trumpet and have played Mahler 5 before, and it is no cake walk
@Haeronthegreat To preach about the great Aldolph"Bud" Herseth, who was the principal trumpet of the greatest orchestral-brass section (CSO brass) for over 50 years, who has performed with the legend - Arnold Jacobs - the principal tubist for almost 45 years, who has performed in some of the greatest orchestral concerts, and who has been directed under the great orchestral conductors such as Fritz Reiner is completely and utterly meaningless. YOU sir perform a magnificent concert like he did!!
What have you got against this orchestra admirankirk77062? The CSO is one of the top ten orchestras in the world. How does being tone-deaf involve a thing, the intonation is great, and I'm sure that Hereseth is not out of tune. And your this upset about a SLUR? A SLUR? I'm sure you wouldn't play this perfect either, so don't complain about a single slur. The majority of the audience can read music, most people who go to CSO Concerts don't go because they love that rockin' baseline.
no offense, but from your entirely unprofessional demeanor on the internet, I highly doubt that you are in fact the incredibly talented and well respected David Bilger. nice try though.
Do you actually know the reason why Mahler wrote this movement? Could you tell me, cause obviously you know such about music. If you say who you really are.
@admiralkirk77062 David Bilger is much more of a professional than you are. You are a juvenile delinquent up past his bed time. Go to sleep now, you don't want to be tired for your first period algebra class.
@admiralkirk77062 Haha, you're pathetic, if you are in the Philadelphia Orchestra which I doubt you are, then why do you speak like a child, are you jealous of Bud Herseth, there is nothing wrong about this particular performance, music isn't always about being right, it is about interpretation and what sounds right, if he is so bad why did he make more money then you do today and why is he so famous, because he is the best symphony orchestra trumpet player ever. I doubt you are who you say.
Ok, obviously none of you have any idea what Herseth has done for trumpet players...no music in general. When you are principal trumpet in if not the best orchestra on the planet for almost 60 years, I'm pretty sure you can play any certain pharse or solo in your own rendition any way you want.
Great job on smashing one of the best trumpet players to ever walk the face of the planet. Playing something off a page is music. Playing with emotion and feeling...now that is music.
Hey Kirk (you're not the same Kirk that posts on TrumpetHerald, are you?), what major orchestras have you played with lately? Until you get a job like his, you can go on mopping up the spit Herseth dumps on the floor when he practices.
I bet you'd walk up to Chuck Norris and challenge him to a fight, too?
@admiralkirk77062 also by your definition, Barenboim is not musical at all, because of all the moving that he does, and the fact that he is in no way conducting straight time. His gestures are in no way textbook, and infact would be awful if he was in a position of educating youth.
HOWEVER, he is a professional, and quite a good one at that. While I think he should never have gotten off the piano bench, I still find that he is a wonderful conductor, and his musicianship very strong.
In asking a perfectly reasonable question, what in fact is your musical training history? While I agree that this is not Bud's absolute best performance, I agree with wnance3 in that if I could ever hope to play that well at that age, I'll be thankful.
also: your comment about, "what a horrible rendition of this song," plays you off to be a little incorrect, as there are no words, sung or otherwise in the music, which makes this a piece, not a song.
I pity you for not being able to enjoy a performance of this caliber. If THIS is hard for you to listen to it must be painful anytime you have a radio or tv on, or attend any live concert for that matter
One, this is Herseth near the end of his career. If I can play that well at that age, I'll be plenty happy. Please compare much earlier recordings of Herseth with current recordings of Dave Bilger, who is also a fabulous principal trumpet, no doubt about that. As far as slurring into the triplets, that's something that Will Scarlett liked to do (former third and assistant player) according to a student of his. Story has it that Bud did that one tour when Scarlett got sick as a sort of "shout out
two things: 1) whoa. relax man, it's just music. 2) can you imagine how many times bud's played this thing? not to mention how many times this piece's been played over the years by ANYbody? it's the kinda stuff that helps keep orchestral music alive: not doing it so much like the other guy. otherwise, all you'd need is $15 and a CD player. it's fun to nit-pick, but there's no need to get uppity about it. i mean, we could talk about Bernstein tempos if you wanna talk 'what's on the page'.
@dvtuba Again, he asked a perfectly legitimate question that I and I'm sure many people are just too AFRAID to post bec they care about getting their lil feelings hurt. And music on a page is meant to be played RIGHT. You apparently know nothing about music, do you? I dont care if Bud has played it a trillion & 1 times, not a single SLUR is written on that trumpet solo therefore he has no right adding one!!! Again, try learning how to read music b4 posting again otherwise u just got OWNED--
@garyfc5011 Because there aint a SINGLE slur written in Mahler 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, are you BLIND or BLIND???? One cant just ADD slurs bec they feel like it to an etude as familiar as this..... that's uncalled-for and totally unprofessional. It's just like swinging or adding a bunch of jazz licks to a Classical piece of music.... would you approve of that as well?
@garyfc5011 that's bec the audience is as stupid and tonedeaf as YOU and doesn't know how to read music!!!! if there's not a SINGLE slur on a page of classical sheetmusic, why the hell should ANYONE add one??? u just dont do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're retarded. It's pretty alright for musicians to add in their own musicality. You have to go beyond what's on the sheet. Just because slurs aren't marked doesn't mean that they don't belong there.
And dammit, boy, there are slurs in Mahler 5. Every rendition on this damn website has people doing slurs throughout this symphony.
Get your shit straight, and stop embarrassing yourself on a public forum as a moron that has not even the slightest idea of music.
@admiralkirk77062 Music is put on a page by a composer or arranger who writes down what they hear from THEIR perspective...the beauty of music is that there can be many different interpretations of one song.
To say that this is a horrible performance is a little over the top...while it may not be perfect there are some REALLY good things going on in this piece
And coming from another trumpet player who has played Mahler 5 before, I'm curious to know if you play an instrument
OK BughouseMASTER, maybe when you achieve the level of fame and respect Herseth has for defining the modern American orchestra trumpet sound, someone will care what you think.
@jazztrumpet216 Ummm... are you stupid?? or STUPID? He just asked a question and a perfectly reasonable one at that. When you learn how to differentiate between slurs and non-slurs on a musical page, feel free to reply back. Otherwise, get your mind out of the gutter and you and all you chronies sucking up to this pathetic old man can just suck it some more.
why did he slur into the triplet at :57? i have never heard anyone but him do this, as the music clearly does NOT indicate to do that.... also if you listen closely at :49, he doesn't cleanly articulate the F#-G#-A# notes..... sigh David Bilger's rendition i MUCH prefer over his.... now THAT is perfection.
@TheUndacovabrotha Thanks for stating the obvious -- But I have heard MANY recordings of this, and he is the only person I've ever heard that slurs into those triplets.... yes there's musicality, but one shouldn't alter already marked articulations such as obvious tonguing here.
@dbrockbassoon Excuse me, "people"? This trumpeter is expected to play this MUCH better than his altered rendition, and on another thought, I wasn't ever talking to YOU, was I? I didn't think so, so how about minding your own business. If you dont agree with my comment, then just keep quiet. I can do whatever I want to do & nothing you can do about that. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.
Herseth's life story is posted.. Read it and enjoy.. Such a humble man with such humble beginnings achieved greatness by nothing more than making hard work with his gift a life-long daily routine. May the accolades continue to flow his way. Adolph "Bud" Herseth: Legendary Champion of Trumpet.
this was the excerpt I played to get into CYSO when I was younger, and I always wanted it to sound like Herseth. There is no one who could triple tongue yet maintain such a rich tone like him.
David Robertson of the St. Louis Phill showed Susan Slaughter the same respect this season in her 40th year and retirement year, when conducting the season opener of Mahler 5.
As my 100 year old Aunt once said about the very difficult piano composition, "Moonlight on the Hudson", "I've been practicing this piece for 50 years, and still can't play it ...
Every time I watch this video, I marvel at the incredible longevity of Adolph Herseth, and his enduring mastery of the art of trumpet playing. Inspiring ...
@campingvideos sounds to me like he's doing the ta-ca-ta-ta like most of us were trained (funny thing is he's probably responsible for that seeing as he trained many of the great orchestral players today). I do it most of the time but have trouble playing really fast stuff that way sometimes (like the triplets in the Verdi requiem) though....sometimes just double tongue in a triplet and end on a second ca syllable, feels awkward at first but once you get used to it it's much MUCH easier IMO.
the reason all classical trumpet in america is german style is because herseth was such a monumental player that the french style got completely thrown out of the window, sorry voisin. But he is the best because he was so good you couldn't not try and play like him
I'm sorry, I find it pretty amusing that anyone has a personal problem giving Bud his due. Even you naysayers know (although you won't let on in this forum) that Bud is one of , if not the finest orchestral trumpeters that has ever lived.
@jojijoji88 Barenboim is one of my favorite conductors because he knows when to back the eff off and let the musicians do what they do best. Check out the Tchaik 4 performance elsewhere on youtube. In the climax at the end of the finale he barely conducts at all. He just steps back and lets them go balls to the wall. The effect is astounding.
I think it shows they're self-disciplined enough to follow exactly what's on the paper and shows far more musicianship than if they were being conducted by some guy waving his hands and jumping all over the place
@FCO0710 Actually, I heard a conductor make a great case for conducting this opening. He pointed out that the solo is marked by Mahler to be slightly hurried and/or out of tempo. So, if the the trumpet plays alone, the effect may be lost, because the audience/orchestra has no reference to what the tempo is/should be. But if the conductor choses to conduct, than the audience/orchestra can feel this effect.
I had a chance to hear the CSO play Mahler's 5th symphony under Barenboim, played in Chicago at the Shriner's auditorium. I recall the orchestra started out regularly but then sounded somewhat disjointed and shaky through 3 movements .....then suddenly, in the last movement, came together so fabulously and gave a real symphonic feel to the music. What a moment that was. I was swept up in by the excellence of the orchestra.
To the list of super trumpeters in Mahler 5, I will add the one I just heard do it this evening -- Mark Inouye of the SF Symphony.
Michael Tilson Thomas's iron-lunged lead trumpeter produced a sound so fat and commanding he sounded almost like a little trombone, much like Mister Herseth in his prime.
What a glorious brass section SF has right now. A long-time Chicago fan, I've suddenly found a section right in my own backyard that can compete, honk-for-honk, with my old heroes.
Hey man I also saw the SFS Mahler 5 back in October. What a performance! Inouye has animal chops. I was sitting in the way back on the top tier and his sound was huge all the way up there. Phenomenal playing by the entire brass section.
No, Mr. Humility. I said it because it was one of the most memorable musical experiences of my life. Also, in the outside hope that whoever selects live isses of historic past performances might read what I said and issue it. As to the "inside" connection, it's quite by accident that I have this connection. Just an old friend that used to work for WFMT.
I heard Herseth do this in 1977 from the 3rd row main floor Orchestra Hall, Chicago, Leinsdorf conducting. Even though the orchestra hated Leinsdorf (I have this on good inside information) It was perhaps the CSO's best Mahler 5 ever. I understand they love Bernard Haitink, by the way.
I think the only reason you said any of that jumbo was so that people would think you are really cool for having inside connections. Way to go buddy. You're on youtube and everyone loves you.
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle once said that to theorize before one has data is a capital mistake. Since you do not know me personally, and have never met me, this is precisely what you've done in theorizing about my motives. So I will give you some "data." In my view, being "cool" and $1.50 will get you a small coffee at a major coffee chain. I simply found this information fascinating when I learned it, and wanted to share it. I have a friend who knows some orchestra members.He told me No biggie.
@Hitman8D Wrong. He isn't God. He's not superhuman therefore has no right to " move all he wants". YOU sir lack musical etiquette and professionalism. Try reading about it. You might learn something new today.
This is why CSO is my favorite orchestra...HUGE sound. Herseth is the man, no one can nail it like he can, though Chris Martin is pretty much a pimp too.
Adolph "Bud" Herseth auditioned for CSO,practically off the street, thinking he could possibly get a 4th.lmao he was AMAZING!r.i.p the glory days with herseth,jacobs, and clevenger
I couldn't take the conductor seriously so I stopped watching at 1:08
awesomeXD8friends 1 week ago
IMPRESIONANTE ES PRECIOSO Y EL TROMPETA SOLISTA ES MUY BUENO
Trompetaoracion 1 week ago
初めてハーセスさんの音色を聴きましたが、ここまで力強く、柔らかい音色だとは思いませんでした。感動です。
kisayuma 2 weeks ago
8:00 till the end. Best I've ever heard it played. Just blowin...ridiculous.
dfreak10 3 weeks ago
Pokorny is god
ajesusadotuba 2 months ago
What is up with this admiralkirk jerk? (heh, that rhymes :) )
falconmann007 3 months ago
Everyone talks about Bud. "Bud this" or "Bud that"... No pun intended, he is a marvelous player, but did you hear Gene Pokorny's AWESOME excerpt at 8:15? I haven't heard that lick played better than by good ol' Gene!
BirdieJMR 4 months ago
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BirdieJMR 4 months ago
haha, with the video delay it looks like barenboim is actually conducting in time
ZepShepley 5 months ago 2
I wish that I could of had the opportunity to see Bud Herseth live. If I could go back in time and see that I would.
benjaminsurber 6 months ago
@benjaminsurber I would love to too, HE IS GOD
TheAndykovalchuk 4 months ago
CSO!!!! I love the closeup of Gene Pokorny at the end!!! :)
dctrtuba1 6 months ago
It's sad that as many as 11 can dislike this. I'm positive they don't even know what this is.
PalabraViva3 7 months ago
i thought his name was bud
MNorm15 7 months ago
@MNorm15 that's his nickname
MightyBrightyMoon 6 months ago
6:40 HORNS!!!!
hotbatdan 7 months ago 2
Interestingly enough, his pitch is definitely off a little but he plays it more musically than he ever did when he was younger. Listen to the BSO version with Roger Voisin....absolutely the best playing on that tune ever. Early Vacciano was close.
academic11 8 months ago
7:50-8:05
Amazing.
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loudlong 8 months ago
3:00 to 3:15 is probably my most favorite classical excerpt of all time.
Obstructions 8 months ago
Bud Herseth is terrific.
OP, what is the year of this recording please?
therockhopper 8 months ago
is that Gail Williams in the top right at 1:26 ?
paxander103 9 months ago
the solo in this video that no one can criticize is gene pokorny's at the end. i think he's the best tuba player on the planet
meandthekidsrule 9 months ago
@meandthekidsrule Gene is amazing! It kills me how amazing he plays
TheDoctor0489 8 months ago
How come the horn section has 3 women? When was this?!?
Prismer6 9 months ago
Herseth sounds good, rest of the orchestra...over top and dumb as usual.
GregHales 9 months ago
@GregHales false
Benefactors 9 months ago
@Benefactors wrong
GregHales 8 months ago
@hawkdevil
SchwarzeDose21 10 months ago
I don't critic the guy , I critic his wrong pitch center
;)
tydjibobo 10 months ago
I've heard of his story! I also know few professional trumpeters who experienced the same damage! After long months of healing(first) and then rehabilitation they discover a completely new why of playing: They can play louder or smoother, they have a huge increase of their range!! and they play in a general way more easy !! So the case of this guy is not better than the others ... (only the fact that he was principal trumpet of CSO for a long time is fine.
tydjibobo 10 months ago
1:42....BEST SURPRISE FACE EVAR!!!! 6:38...BEST ANGRY FACE EVAR!~!!!!
MythicTrumpet13 10 months ago 2
1:42....BEST SURPRISE FACE EVAR!!!!
MythicTrumpet13 10 months ago
this a bad version of the beginning, bud is good, but this symphony, he everytime plays completely wrong. it's not mahler..
SchwarzeDose21 10 months ago
@SchwarzeDose21 There are a thousand different ways to play this opening... and there are a thousands armchair quarterbacks who will tell you how much better it should be, and how Mahler this or that...if you are going to make a statement like that... explain for example why! What is it that should be done? Did you know Gustav Mahler?
joebartz 10 months ago
he doesn't play exact on the pitch ! his C# (the middle and the low one) are too high, his F# toooo low !
He doesn't use the third slide to correct the pitch of the low C#, so he has to correct with his mouth (We heard It). But note after note (we know all how much it's difficult to keep a beautiful rich dark etc. sound on this opening!), he loses the right center and can't correct the F# !
Does someone think/hear the same as me ?
tydjibobo 10 months ago
@tydjibobo a few years after getting the job bud was in a car accident and his face hit the steering wheel splitting his lip leaving permanent nerve damage causing it to stay numb so he had to re-learn by repositioning the trumpet on his lips.
TheUndacovabrotha 10 months ago
he doesn't play exact on the pitch ! his C# (the middle and the low one) are too high, his F# toooo low !
He doesn't use the third slide to correct the pitch of the low C#, so he has to correct with his mouth (We heard It). But note after note (we know all how much it's difficult to keep a beautiful rich dark etc. sound on this opening!), he loses the right center and can't correct the F# !
Does someone think/hear the same as me ?
tydjibobo 10 months ago
CSO!!!!
dctrtuba1 11 months ago
I think they sound better here than the two other times I heard them play Mahler 5, at Orchestra Hall and the Medinah Temple.. As far as sound I don't think I ever heard the CSO better.. the cool thing, is that I've been on that very stage in Cologne and played Mahler myself.
joebartz 11 months ago
Nobody can come close to Bud Herseth! While I enjoy the LSO, none can compare with Bud...simple as that.
And yes, I am a trumeter, and I have no problem saying that I sound like a bunch of tin can falling down a hill compared to Mr. Herseth! He was awesome!
passport287 11 months ago
@passport287 Ghitalla, Vacciano, Johnson, Broils and Voisin were right there with him. We were so incredibly fortunate to have such great musicians playing lead trumpet in that era. Each had something great to say!
academic11 8 months ago
Bud Herseth is a great trumpeter. hes amazing. but he never understood this symphony completely. but this version is the best of him.
mellem51 1 year ago
@jojijoji88 I love how Bud Herseth shows respect to Barenboim by allowing him to be on the podium while he plays.
karldschultz 1 year ago 31
@karldschultz Haha
selector111 1 year ago
How does this not have more than 100,000 views? Herseth is so incredible!
vintagetrumpet10 1 year ago 2
@mitrumpet310 thank you! I agree with you completely. Herseth did a wonderful job. He was the furthest thing from out of tune.
kelltrumpet 1 year ago
Tudo o que é bom na grande música
Avelinoramosportugal 1 year ago
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Avelinoramosportugal 1 year ago
The hero worship going on in the comments to this video are meaningless; Herseth might have been a great trumpeter, but here he is out of tune and inarticulate on the triplets, as well as seeming to have a rather weak embouchure, or else partaking in silly vibrato.
Haeronthegreat 1 year ago
@Haeronthegreat Do you play the trumpet?
If so I'd like to hear how you think the opening fanfare should be played...
I think Bud did a wonderful job in this video and I'm sure a lot of other people would agree that while this is not a perfect performance, I hear too many good things going on to not admire the talent being displayed by the CSO
I play the trumpet and have played Mahler 5 before, and it is no cake walk
mitrumpet310 1 year ago
@Haeronthegreat To preach about the great Aldolph"Bud" Herseth, who was the principal trumpet of the greatest orchestral-brass section (CSO brass) for over 50 years, who has performed with the legend - Arnold Jacobs - the principal tubist for almost 45 years, who has performed in some of the greatest orchestral concerts, and who has been directed under the great orchestral conductors such as Fritz Reiner is completely and utterly meaningless. YOU sir perform a magnificent concert like he did!!
kaseyWtrumpet 1 year ago
@Haeronthegreat uh....no.
mattyp434 1 year ago
@Haeronthegreat
I highly doubt you can play even close to the level that Bud can play...
mtanz11 11 months ago
What have you got against this orchestra admirankirk77062? The CSO is one of the top ten orchestras in the world. How does being tone-deaf involve a thing, the intonation is great, and I'm sure that Hereseth is not out of tune. And your this upset about a SLUR? A SLUR? I'm sure you wouldn't play this perfect either, so don't complain about a single slur. The majority of the audience can read music, most people who go to CSO Concerts don't go because they love that rockin' baseline.
BeowulfVids 1 year ago
@admiralkirk77062
no offense, but from your entirely unprofessional demeanor on the internet, I highly doubt that you are in fact the incredibly talented and well respected David Bilger. nice try though.
iamdrake88 1 year ago 4
thumbs up if you think this admiralkirk guy is an idiot. or 12
xxdkthxx 1 year ago 21
the beginning sounds like when i turn on my ps3
xxdkthxx 1 year ago
@admiralkik77062
You are certainly don't know anything.
Do you actually know the reason why Mahler wrote this movement? Could you tell me, cause obviously you know such about music. If you say who you really are.
kelltrumpet 1 year ago
I AM PRINCIPAL PLAYER IN THE PHILADELPHIA ORCHESTRA THANK YOU VERY MUCH SO U ALL CAN LICK MY LEFT NUT.
admiralkirk77062 1 year ago
@admiralkirk77062 nice trolling
blakjakguitar 1 year ago
@admiralkirk77062 David Bilger is much more of a professional than you are. You are a juvenile delinquent up past his bed time. Go to sleep now, you don't want to be tired for your first period algebra class.
jazztrumpet216 1 year ago 2
@admiralkirk77062 Haha, you're pathetic, if you are in the Philadelphia Orchestra which I doubt you are, then why do you speak like a child, are you jealous of Bud Herseth, there is nothing wrong about this particular performance, music isn't always about being right, it is about interpretation and what sounds right, if he is so bad why did he make more money then you do today and why is he so famous, because he is the best symphony orchestra trumpet player ever. I doubt you are who you say.
selector111 1 year ago
Ok, obviously none of you have any idea what Herseth has done for trumpet players...no music in general. When you are principal trumpet in if not the best orchestra on the planet for almost 60 years, I'm pretty sure you can play any certain pharse or solo in your own rendition any way you want.
Great job on smashing one of the best trumpet players to ever walk the face of the planet. Playing something off a page is music. Playing with emotion and feeling...now that is music.
kelltrumpet 1 year ago
Hey Kirk (you're not the same Kirk that posts on TrumpetHerald, are you?), what major orchestras have you played with lately? Until you get a job like his, you can go on mopping up the spit Herseth dumps on the floor when he practices.
I bet you'd walk up to Chuck Norris and challenge him to a fight, too?
jazztrumpet216 1 year ago 4
@jazztrumpet216 yes i am. got a problem, chump?
admiralkirk77062 1 year ago
Adolph Herseth is the world's greatest symphonic trumpeter. No doubt. End of story. Pure perfection.
Haraldjohann 1 year ago
@admiralkirk77062 also by your definition, Barenboim is not musical at all, because of all the moving that he does, and the fact that he is in no way conducting straight time. His gestures are in no way textbook, and infact would be awful if he was in a position of educating youth.
HOWEVER, he is a professional, and quite a good one at that. While I think he should never have gotten off the piano bench, I still find that he is a wonderful conductor, and his musicianship very strong.
iamdrake88 1 year ago
In asking a perfectly reasonable question, what in fact is your musical training history? While I agree that this is not Bud's absolute best performance, I agree with wnance3 in that if I could ever hope to play that well at that age, I'll be thankful.
also: your comment about, "what a horrible rendition of this song," plays you off to be a little incorrect, as there are no words, sung or otherwise in the music, which makes this a piece, not a song.
iamdrake88 1 year ago
What a HORRIBLE rendition of this song. Anyone who seriously thinks this is good is tonally and utterly deaf. I pity each and every one of you.
admiralkirk77062 1 year ago
@admiralkirk77062
I pity you for not being able to enjoy a performance of this caliber. If THIS is hard for you to listen to it must be painful anytime you have a radio or tv on, or attend any live concert for that matter
FCO0710 1 year ago
One, this is Herseth near the end of his career. If I can play that well at that age, I'll be plenty happy. Please compare much earlier recordings of Herseth with current recordings of Dave Bilger, who is also a fabulous principal trumpet, no doubt about that. As far as slurring into the triplets, that's something that Will Scarlett liked to do (former third and assistant player) according to a student of his. Story has it that Bud did that one tour when Scarlett got sick as a sort of "shout out
wnance3 1 year ago
@wnance3 Will Scarlet from Robin Hood Men in Tights?
jrwhorn2626 1 year ago
two things: 1) whoa. relax man, it's just music. 2) can you imagine how many times bud's played this thing? not to mention how many times this piece's been played over the years by ANYbody? it's the kinda stuff that helps keep orchestral music alive: not doing it so much like the other guy. otherwise, all you'd need is $15 and a CD player. it's fun to nit-pick, but there's no need to get uppity about it. i mean, we could talk about Bernstein tempos if you wanna talk 'what's on the page'.
dvtuba 1 year ago 2
@dvtuba Again, he asked a perfectly legitimate question that I and I'm sure many people are just too AFRAID to post bec they care about getting their lil feelings hurt. And music on a page is meant to be played RIGHT. You apparently know nothing about music, do you? I dont care if Bud has played it a trillion & 1 times, not a single SLUR is written on that trumpet solo therefore he has no right adding one!!! Again, try learning how to read music b4 posting again otherwise u just got OWNED--
admiralkirk77062 1 year ago
@admiralkirk77062 what the hell makes the difference if he slurs a couple notes. the audience doesnt care.
garyfc5011 1 year ago
@garyfc5011 Because there aint a SINGLE slur written in Mahler 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, are you BLIND or BLIND???? One cant just ADD slurs bec they feel like it to an etude as familiar as this..... that's uncalled-for and totally unprofessional. It's just like swinging or adding a bunch of jazz licks to a Classical piece of music.... would you approve of that as well?
admiralkirk77062 1 year ago
@admiralkirk77062
If everyone played the way the music was written then it wouldn't be half as good.
Let the legends do their job. Thanks.
sayhi2death 1 year ago
@sayhi2death Nah, you can just continue slobbing his tasty elderly knob. You must like it like that!! hahahahha
admiralkirk77062 1 year ago
@admiralkirk77062
You mad bro? Its past your bed time stupid troll lmfao
sayhi2death 1 year ago
@admiralkirk77062 Deciding to slur something is well within accepted musical practices. BTW, who are you? Obviously not a musician.
SamHilland 1 year ago
@garyfc5011 that's bec the audience is as stupid and tonedeaf as YOU and doesn't know how to read music!!!! if there's not a SINGLE slur on a page of classical sheetmusic, why the hell should ANYONE add one??? u just dont do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
admiralkirk77062 1 year ago
@admiralkirk77062
You're retarded. It's pretty alright for musicians to add in their own musicality. You have to go beyond what's on the sheet. Just because slurs aren't marked doesn't mean that they don't belong there.
And dammit, boy, there are slurs in Mahler 5. Every rendition on this damn website has people doing slurs throughout this symphony.
Get your shit straight, and stop embarrassing yourself on a public forum as a moron that has not even the slightest idea of music.
Kthxbai
nottravis28 1 year ago
@admiralkirk77062 Music is put on a page by a composer or arranger who writes down what they hear from THEIR perspective...the beauty of music is that there can be many different interpretations of one song.
To say that this is a horrible performance is a little over the top...while it may not be perfect there are some REALLY good things going on in this piece
And coming from another trumpet player who has played Mahler 5 before, I'm curious to know if you play an instrument
mitrumpet310 1 year ago
OK BughouseMASTER, maybe when you achieve the level of fame and respect Herseth has for defining the modern American orchestra trumpet sound, someone will care what you think.
jazztrumpet216 1 year ago
@jazztrumpet216 Ummm... are you stupid?? or STUPID? He just asked a question and a perfectly reasonable one at that. When you learn how to differentiate between slurs and non-slurs on a musical page, feel free to reply back. Otherwise, get your mind out of the gutter and you and all you chronies sucking up to this pathetic old man can just suck it some more.
admiralkirk77062 1 year ago
why did he slur into the triplet at :57? i have never heard anyone but him do this, as the music clearly does NOT indicate to do that.... also if you listen closely at :49, he doesn't cleanly articulate the F#-G#-A# notes..... sigh David Bilger's rendition i MUCH prefer over his.... now THAT is perfection.
BughouseMASTER 1 year ago
@BughouseMASTER music is more than just whats written on the page.
TheUndacovabrotha 1 year ago
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BughouseMASTER 1 year ago
@TheUndacovabrotha Thanks for stating the obvious -- But I have heard MANY recordings of this, and he is the only person I've ever heard that slurs into those triplets.... yes there's musicality, but one shouldn't alter already marked articulations such as obvious tonguing here.
BughouseMASTER 1 year ago
@BughouseMASTER stop nitpicking at people on the internet and find something better to do.
dbrockbassoon 1 year ago
@dbrockbassoon Excuse me, "people"? This trumpeter is expected to play this MUCH better than his altered rendition, and on another thought, I wasn't ever talking to YOU, was I? I didn't think so, so how about minding your own business. If you dont agree with my comment, then just keep quiet. I can do whatever I want to do & nothing you can do about that. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.
BughouseMASTER 1 year ago
This is trumpet Jesus.
kelltrumpet 1 year ago
Bud could make Phil Smith want to go practice...
betaomega04 1 year ago 4
lol adolph
7r0j4nm4n 1 year ago
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7r0j4nm4n 1 year ago
Bud could melt Philip Smith's trumpet into nothing
ThinkOriginalThought 1 year ago
Herseth's life story is posted.. Read it and enjoy.. Such a humble man with such humble beginnings achieved greatness by nothing more than making hard work with his gift a life-long daily routine. May the accolades continue to flow his way. Adolph "Bud" Herseth: Legendary Champion of Trumpet.
PENNSY671E 1 year ago
talkintogod......talkintogod.......talkintoyou........
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loudlong 1 year ago
The conductor always has that look as if... he's smelled a fart
DancingSpiderman 1 year ago
Herseth, the absolute of Trumpet!!
ohooho88 1 year ago
What a brilliant powerhouse! And Barenboin ensures this is entertaining for everyone!
Quezacotl77 1 year ago
this was the excerpt I played to get into CYSO when I was younger, and I always wanted it to sound like Herseth. There is no one who could triple tongue yet maintain such a rich tone like him.
cschalz 1 year ago
David Robertson of the St. Louis Phill showed Susan Slaughter the same respect this season in her 40th year and retirement year, when conducting the season opener of Mahler 5.
Danzfat 1 year ago
and the trombone part at 8:01 woops ass too
TheUndacovabrotha 1 year ago
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TheUndacovabrotha 1 year ago
As my 100 year old Aunt once said about the very difficult piano composition, "Moonlight on the Hudson", "I've been practicing this piece for 50 years, and still can't play it ...
Every time I watch this video, I marvel at the incredible longevity of Adolph Herseth, and his enduring mastery of the art of trumpet playing. Inspiring ...
TrompetteSpielen 1 year ago
crap, we're going to be playing this next year!
InfiniteMomentStudio 1 year ago
ta-ca-ta-tá or ta-ta-ca-tá? Doble-simple tonguing or triple?
campingvideos 1 year ago
@campingvideos triple
thebeastpwner 1 year ago
@campingvideos sounds to me like he's doing the ta-ca-ta-ta like most of us were trained (funny thing is he's probably responsible for that seeing as he trained many of the great orchestral players today). I do it most of the time but have trouble playing really fast stuff that way sometimes (like the triplets in the Verdi requiem) though....sometimes just double tongue in a triplet and end on a second ca syllable, feels awkward at first but once you get used to it it's much MUCH easier IMO.
kotetsu131 1 year ago
simply amazing
JKelly8778 1 year ago
LOOK AT THOSE CHOPS!! Under the saggie skin are chops of STEEL!
repObamanation 1 year ago 3
Herseth is legendary, anyone who thinks otherwise don't or shouldn't play trumpet.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago 2
the reason all classical trumpet in america is german style is because herseth was such a monumental player that the french style got completely thrown out of the window, sorry voisin. But he is the best because he was so good you couldn't not try and play like him
mextorfar07 1 year ago
Herseth was trained in the french tradition. Before him the C trumpet was not used much in playing orchestral music, except by french style players.
If the piece was German, he played it with a German style. But his playing is often far from the traditional German style.
howaboutataste 1 year ago
I'm sorry, I find it pretty amusing that anyone has a personal problem giving Bud his due. Even you naysayers know (although you won't let on in this forum) that Bud is one of , if not the finest orchestral trumpeters that has ever lived.
And yes, do your self a favor and buy a Bach.
65strad 1 year ago
I am a violinist, but I can see true trumpet genius when it comes through so obviously in a recording like this.
jraziru 1 year ago
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godlovespigs 1 year ago
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godlovespigs 1 year ago
amazing trumpet solo
MrMrmagical 1 year ago
the only chicago team that doesnt disappoint.
calcner 1 year ago 7
Herseth is The Man.
Around 6:40 Barenboim's facial expression makes him look like Rush Limbaugh.
blogger1947 1 year ago
@blogger1947 LOL! Totally! Ahahahahaha!
Leoboy729 1 year ago
I love how Barenboin shows respect to Herseth by NOT conducting the opening solo.
jojijoji88 1 year ago 60
@jojijoji88 Barenboim is one of my favorite conductors because he knows when to back the eff off and let the musicians do what they do best. Check out the Tchaik 4 performance elsewhere on youtube. In the climax at the end of the finale he barely conducts at all. He just steps back and lets them go balls to the wall. The effect is astounding.
daDavemeister 1 year ago
@daDavemeister I agree
I think it shows they're self-disciplined enough to follow exactly what's on the paper and shows far more musicianship than if they were being conducted by some guy waving his hands and jumping all over the place
Dope1swagga 1 year ago
@daDavemeister agreed
self-discipline and musicianship at its best
Dope1swagga 1 year ago
@jojijoji88
Agreed. Its obnoxious to watch conductors try to conduct along. I think I'd have a hard time playing it if I were focused on the conductor
FCO0710 1 year ago
@FCO0710 Actually, I heard a conductor make a great case for conducting this opening. He pointed out that the solo is marked by Mahler to be slightly hurried and/or out of tempo. So, if the the trumpet plays alone, the effect may be lost, because the audience/orchestra has no reference to what the tempo is/should be. But if the conductor choses to conduct, than the audience/orchestra can feel this effect.
JPizzle1490 11 months ago
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JPizzle1490 11 months ago
EPIC!!!
tubadavid123 2 years ago
i love the expression on the tuba players face during his solo at the very end. what emotion he shows!!!
nebraska12 2 years ago 3
hes a beast haha
frenchyblue92 1 year ago
boy. i completely blow my load at 8:07 to 8:14
nebraska12 2 years ago 4
haha I know dude. That low brass is so BA
AWiddit 1 year ago
Go bud
kdkn92 2 years ago
I am very impressed with the trombones. So in tune and together its amazing. 3:25
ProjectmixBros 2 years ago
who is the conductor?
11235813211231853211 2 years ago
Daniel Barenboim
gammarotor 2 years ago
no disrespect but how about intonation at the beginning?
zcilingir 2 years ago
Jesus I would give my left nut not to fight Barenboim... The guy is like a freaking bear.
AWiddit 2 years ago 3
A very small bear.
WAKeele 2 years ago 2
Herseth is just superb!
To be able to have that kind of sound at his age is just incredible
foodmore 2 years ago 2
@foodmore I would say to have that kind of sound at any age is impressive.
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Pedrohenrique040304 2 years ago
wow, the orchestra has a really shaky spot at around 7:17, it almost comes apart. Intense!
jrwhorn2626 2 years ago
You are right. This is close to destruction.. Hmm..
Thorozu 2 years ago
@jrwhorn2626 i'm not quite sure why people are giving this dislikes. they in fact DO pull a full beat apart. good ear jrwhorn
shawnwilsontrpt 2 years ago
I had a chance to hear the CSO play Mahler's 5th symphony under Barenboim, played in Chicago at the Shriner's auditorium. I recall the orchestra started out regularly but then sounded somewhat disjointed and shaky through 3 movements .....then suddenly, in the last movement, came together so fabulously and gave a real symphonic feel to the music. What a moment that was. I was swept up in by the excellence of the orchestra.
freeqwerqwer 2 years ago
To the list of super trumpeters in Mahler 5, I will add the one I just heard do it this evening -- Mark Inouye of the SF Symphony.
Michael Tilson Thomas's iron-lunged lead trumpeter produced a sound so fat and commanding he sounded almost like a little trombone, much like Mister Herseth in his prime.
What a glorious brass section SF has right now. A long-time Chicago fan, I've suddenly found a section right in my own backyard that can compete, honk-for-honk, with my old heroes.
Life is good.
ikshields 2 years ago
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Absolutely, but in my humble opinion I believe SF brass to be absolutely superior to Chicago
ethicalapproach 2 years ago
Hey man I also saw the SFS Mahler 5 back in October. What a performance! Inouye has animal chops. I was sitting in the way back on the top tier and his sound was huge all the way up there. Phenomenal playing by the entire brass section.
CraigRyan86 2 years ago
No, Mr. Humility. I said it because it was one of the most memorable musical experiences of my life. Also, in the outside hope that whoever selects live isses of historic past performances might read what I said and issue it. As to the "inside" connection, it's quite by accident that I have this connection. Just an old friend that used to work for WFMT.
moosatious 2 years ago
I heard Herseth do this in 1977 from the 3rd row main floor Orchestra Hall, Chicago, Leinsdorf conducting. Even though the orchestra hated Leinsdorf (I have this on good inside information) It was perhaps the CSO's best Mahler 5 ever. I understand they love Bernard Haitink, by the way.
moosatious 2 years ago
I think the only reason you said any of that jumbo was so that people would think you are really cool for having inside connections. Way to go buddy. You're on youtube and everyone loves you.
Humility777 2 years ago
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle once said that to theorize before one has data is a capital mistake. Since you do not know me personally, and have never met me, this is precisely what you've done in theorizing about my motives. So I will give you some "data." In my view, being "cool" and $1.50 will get you a small coffee at a major coffee chain. I simply found this information fascinating when I learned it, and wanted to share it. I have a friend who knows some orchestra members.He told me No biggie.
moosatious 2 years ago
lol
bitchass888 2 years ago
oh wow. I'm impressed.
AWiddit 2 years ago
ma l inetrpretada ._. y sin fuerza
gonzal0999 2 years ago
6:50 to all my instructors who told me not to move (expressively) while playing
missromero 2 years ago
Missromero and who are you to compare to Adolph
jesemus33 2 years ago
When you're the principle trumpet of the CSO you can move all you want
Hitman8D 1 year ago 29
@Hitman8D As opposed to the fundamental trumpet, who is not allowed to move.
Bobs482 1 year ago
@Hitman8D Wrong. He isn't God. He's not superhuman therefore has no right to " move all he wants". YOU sir lack musical etiquette and professionalism. Try reading about it. You might learn something new today.
admiralkirk77062 1 year ago
@admiralkirk77062 I think you set your standards a little too high if the CSO makes horrible renditions for you.
studiodancejc 1 year ago 3
Arnold Jacobs, then Gene Pokorny,....incredible
frenchyblue92 2 years ago 3
That fourth note is soooo damn flat though, on the descending part...
bassclarinetman21 2 years ago
Wow! And that isn't even close to the best I've heard Herseth play this part!
LeonFleisherFan 2 years ago
This is why CSO is my favorite orchestra...HUGE sound. Herseth is the man, no one can nail it like he can, though Chris Martin is pretty much a pimp too.
nsvorp 2 years ago 3
@nsvorp I know you made this comment 8 months ago but i just want to let u know that my dad was a bass trombonist in the CSO.
taylorconscious 1 year ago
@taylorconscious
My dad plays bass trombone in the Baltimore Symphony. We always look up to you're dad.
BYUcougar410 1 year ago
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@nsvorp I know you made this comment 8 months ago but i just want to let u know that my dad was a bass trombonist in the CSO.
taylorconscious 1 year ago
Adolph "Bud" Herseth auditioned for CSO,practically off the street, thinking he could possibly get a 4th.lmao he was AMAZING!r.i.p the glory days with herseth,jacobs, and clevenger
sayuhedead 2 years ago