i thought cops had a weight requirement? why are they all fat slobs? would be easy to run away from these fat turds----how sloppy and disgusting these 'public employees' look.
The Lawyer seems typical. He seems slimey and underhanded. THis sleazy personality is further shown by his use of the absolutely self appointed and meaningless title if "esquire" after his name.
nerdy boys - u just looked stupid and irritating. the uniformed guys just doing their job and seemed remakably restrained. your smug faces and facile comments really did merit a punch in the face :-)
i was once a resident on ward's island. seargent agosto harassed me when i was there. I have seen them do so many things that regular nypd wouldn't get away with. I would be happy to sit and talk with the creator of this video, and share so much that i witnessed in there. I heard they've turned around. I was there when that building in the back was used to get high in there, but they lived in there, most of the getting high was in the woods, yard, and bathrooms.;..i could write a book
@ nybx01 that was a very ignorant remark u made abt the officers... how abt u go 2 wards island knock the shit outta one of the cops and u will go through the real precinct the real bookings and c a real judge... u are a fucking asshole
Hey dipshit ~ coast to coast most Homeless shelters fon't allow people to com ein an humiliate the homeless people there ~ as in NO CAMERAS ALLOWED! Would you expect to be allowed in anyones hotel room with cameras??? Your an idiot and YOU are the one holding back information !!!
@hazard2000 go ahead push through then police brutality would be the last thing you have to think about. I see you both know about the crack house have you been in there????
assault? where? technicaly you were tresspassing after the first time they asked you to leave and you didnt. your lucky you didnt ger arrested after the 10th time they told you
It's not a public place. Homeless Shelters are similar to court houses in that there are certain items not allowed inside. Items like running video cameras.
Morons with guns. Affirmative action cops. You don't know if the person they are looking for is on the property? All you need to do is call. This is the U.S.A we have a thing called a communication system.
thats why peope like you think a cop gives a phone number to call and you call it and they make you wait try again and somehow the lines get disssconnected and you have to try again
For the New Year resolution these peace officers should go on a diet. If they have to chase somone they'll be in trouble. The way they ware their hats and the way they are walking. Sad and unprofessional.
@roninamano What you did was only prove how much the public lies when they comes to these facilities. Try something else maybe you should have pushed and officer and got yourself locked up and they would show you fake. STUPID!!!!!
@roninamano he said the tortfeasers name was fortlaroy like little lord fortlaroy the earl of sandwich said to lord douche bag i do say douche bag is your wife the inspirtation for this new invention your working on
@nybx01 you need a real job and do something better with your life. They are making money and your mad because your at a library watching this you probably live there biatch!!!!
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read lawyer below who explained that months ago. You are wrong. There was assault. Context will come from posting the entire show rather than this short clip. I'm working on it.
THey do need firearms becasue they do deal with situations that require them. WIth all do respect the do things regular cops do without firearms. Dont paint all of them with a broad brush.
Thats not fair actually there was a pilot program a few yeas back to arm them but it was scrapped by Mayor Guilliani when he was trying to save a buck...right now the city is laying the ground work to give them back firearms as they must go through the same application process as an NYPD officer since the start of 2000 including a psychological exam and physical.
I personally think that the reasons Corrections officers can't carry guns applies here. The shelters are a lot like prisons in every way, intentionally so. The close proximity makes it likely that there will be more abuse, or a loose gun incident. IMHO
DHS police officers are defined under the special officer job title series withn NYC. They are one of the hardest working groups out there and they do it un armed.
The thing about DHS POlice is the city under did get rid of them a few years back and it turned out to be a horrible mistake crime in the shelters sky rocketed they are a needed force to protect the shelter system. the city used security gaurds thiking it would be cheaper but what they didnt realize is gaurds arent cops and just stood there or ran away when crimes happned in the shelters so DHS police was brought back they are actually the closest of all the special officers to getting guns
This is true. Security guards are useless. But DHS Police are very abusive and power mad. A lot like DOC but without any professionalism or real security effect. IMHO
Thats not fair they do provide security as was proven when the city disbanded them in the 1990's and crime skyrocketed. Originally they where part of the HRA police force before HRA was disbanded and crime skyrocketed. THey are a good group of guys
You are right. It isn't fair. I am basing my opinion on a relatively small sampling of DHS officers who were pretty incompetent. I invite you to take this up on the RWN blog or forum.
They are working to improve standards a bit but they are very professional out of all the " special officer" job titles under NYC civil service jurisdiction
My problem was that during the security scan search they laid out all the people's property for all to see (including the just released cons). And then refuse to make a report when (surprise, surprise) the stuff is stolen (cell phones, wallets, keys, etc.)
The law states that in order for it to be considered assault,there must be noticeable physical injury.FYI, battery is not listed in the law any longer due to situations like this one. At the most,this was a case of harassment and thats a stretch.
Exactly what is the source of your "Law"? That would be an absolute first for any jurisdiction in the Western world! What possessed you to simply make up a false definition of assault?
First of all,just because you put on a suit and a tie,doesn't mean you're a lawyer. Second,there was no physical contact,let alone an assault,if you were actually a lawyer,you'd know that.
Your an idiot. Lawyers are all publicly listed officers of the court, and falsely claiming to be one is a crime. Again, you are an idiot. Assault doesn't require any contact at all, that's battery. Go to your high school civics teacher and demand a refund. Yours was the dumbest post we've ever gotten.
Actually, that was a play on the name of the center when I posted this. However, now it appears that some parts of this place are exclusively for gay homeless men and gay DHS police. This hasn't been verified. FYI- the straight residents call it anything but the "Gay" shelter. They prefer to call it Ward's Island and the particular building names- Keener, Clark-Thomas, and Shwartz.
OMG thats terrible!!! did the lawyer live?? i bet he has a long road to recovery. Is there anywhere i can make donations? jesus i feel bad for his family..I hope he's okay!!!!
What, you can't read? The subtitle says lawyer assaulted by cops at a homeless shelter. And if you would read some earlier comments you would know what assault refers too. Read, read.
I saw no assault i didnt even see battery what is your problem if yourve got a point of view dont fucking like to get people to watch your video just present it im not going to believe whatver your story is after watching this lie of a video
You're a real brilliant lawyer. Bringing a camera on city property and then taping footage of persons who reside there without their express permission. This was a clear violation of their Confidentiality rights. As a lawyer you should have known better. I would personally sue you for broadcasting this on the internet. You clearly have proven yourself to be an opportunist, rather an advocate of human rights.
Where are these confidentiality rights written? What legal expertise do you claim? Why should such behavior be above reporting? What cause of action would you sue on? (And why can't you be counter-sued for a frivolous lawsuit?)
And Mayor Bloomberg seeks more cameras with congestion pricing (a/k/a the Peasant Monitoring System). The main point of this is to show how they react in a totally physical way inappropriately. What you have to ask yourself is why? And why when cameras aren't rolling helpless homeless guys get the crap kicked out of them at random.
Actually that is assault. See some of the earlier comments on that. We also had better than a business card. See earlier comments, we had an authorization to enter from their main office- but they really just attacked rather than let us present it.
My personal opinion is that their main function is to convince the residents that they are in prison. They serve no other purpose. They don't even write stolen property reports!
Opinions are like assholes... everybody has one! It's no suprize you're thinking like one. Most Shelters have security guards, police, or both. All shelters have policies & proceedures, And All shelter clients have an absolute right to PRIVACY! Now if that moron was smart... he should have made PROPER arrangements with City, before he shit his brains out that morning.
Further More... The Officers that work within the shelters, are there to maintain peace, & safety between, and for ALL clients, staff & visitors. The do have real athority, and do a hell of alot more than your peice of shit ignorant ass cares to know about!
Assault??? whoever posted this video so beyond unintelligent its not even funny. This isn't even a case of harrassment. This is a case a civilian thinking he has more rights then he does. Get a life guys.
Clearly there was no assault on anyone here. Look it up on the penal law, nothing on this video spells out assault on anyone here. There are no absolutely no physical injuries here at all. You make charges like that look it up in the penal law first before u come up with something stupid as Homeless NYC Cops Assault Lawyer.
What a load of BS. The lawyer is a tad annoying and IMO a total prick. I am not supprised he didn't get a meeting if his previous behaviour has been of a similar standard. You can dress a fool in an expensive suit but he's still just a well dressed fool.
Those arent NYC police officers those are police officers of the NYC department of Homeless services a separate agency...they arent full fleged police officers they are called peace officers under NYS law they dont even carry guns.
I make that point in the video. They are definitely not NYPD by any stretch of the imagination. They lack a functioning Internal Affairs Unit. However, are you sure that they are peace officers? Their uniforms clearly state "POLICE". They would be guilty of impersonating police if they truly are not police. But that's clearly a decision made from the top of the agency (perhaps years ago) and not the individuals.
No They do not have an internal affairs per se they are investigated by the NYC department of investigation in that aspect. They are allowed to use the word police as it stands from an memorandum of understanding between that agency and the NYC police department and the fact they have arrest powers both on and off duty, believe it or not many agencies use the word police in their names when they are not actually full police officers, it really hasnt been a problem over the years.
Ill check it out, that's definitely a plausible explanation and might explain the total disregard for property rights and free speech- very limited training.
Not really the training is different in some aspects and some agencies though peace officers send their cops through a full police academy. but all in all when it comes down to training on the penal law aspect of things and such it is all the same.
some agencies who are peace officers have detectives it quite normal and some peace officers have full police powers when doing certain activites but bottom line the only real difference between peace and police officers is one can apply for a warrant and the other cannot and also there are slightly differing rules regauring probably cause and such.
Dude, you are seriously well informed. I'm impressed, especially about that differing standards of probable cause. You are welcome to come be a talking head on the show if you are available.
I'll have to check this out. It sounds very plausible with a memorandum of understanding. I could see that happening. The last time I checked the statute it was pretty clear about dividing police from peace officers but my focus was on the automatic status given to off-duty federal officers. You can see the careful delineation with Corrections, CUNY security, MTA Collections, and Fireman, all peace officers who clearly are not police (and many carry guns on duty).
Fireman are actually peace officers under NYS law the thing is with them its a grey area but the reason they have peace officer status is to have the power to write summonses and fire code violation write ups
They also have a serious quasi-military structure going on and they tend to act in their peace officer status under command of a lieutenant. Occasionally some problems, but kinda rare with them.
The DOI is a serious investigation agency for the entire city- including NYPD Internal Affairs... But I meant that they have no complaint structure set up within DHSPD to quickly nip problem officers in the bud.
each agency has its own rank structure and way of doing things some have detectives some do not some allow officers to carry guns and some do not. Mind you MTA revenue collections are not police officers or peace officers they are armed security gaurds granted weapon permits by NYC
Great footage...my question is the following, when covering a story/event such as the one you filmed, are you require to have permission to film on location? Can you film any public figure/civil servant without being sued?
They are posted in there and there is even a prison-like fence surrounding the place. Somewhere along the line NYC forgot that these are free men. Probably during the Guiliani administration.
You state "He was pacific". Are you talking about the Ocean? You are a fucking nerd. Work on getting laid and learning how to speak without an impediment. You should be thrown off the porperty. You are clowns. Did you graduate from CUNY Law?
Nope. Graduated from a top-20 law school. You seem pretty hostile. About as hostile and defensive as those DHS officers. Anyone who has to curse and insult obviously doesn't have a solid basis for argument. Obviously, any idiot off the street can post what you just did -- not very intelligent -- in syntax or substance.
But more importantly, imagine you're a homeless person freezing in the cold and you are assigned to this shelter and meet these uniformed goons who beat you up and throw you out into the cold, over 5 desolate miles and a bridge away from the rest of Manhattan and civilization. It could cost you your life- and according to several homeless people and a newspaper or two, deaths have happened aroound these Volunteers of America shelters.
This shouldn't be that hard to document and I will be glad to help you arrest them then. Right now all you did was make the DHS Cops look bad without any proof. You are breaking your own rules!
As the lawyer above, to be fair, I wasn't aware of any newspaper articles indicating that deaths had happened around these VOA shelters. Also, none of interviewees specifically said they were thrown out into the cold and beaten up (although they alleged abuse). But from the evasive and defensive behavior of the DHS officers, I wouldn't count anything out. And the real shame is the Director didn't even come out to discuss the issues like a true professional.
If nothing else it lends credibility to the brutality alleged by the residents (to be posted soon). Let's keep in mind that these "police" acted without checking the bona fides of an identified attorney with a cameraman asking for the director by name. In each and every NYC shelter is a directive listing homeless advocates who can enter at any time without notice or escort or hinderance. These "police" clearly are in violation of that directive.
If there is any brutality in the shelters then I completely support an undercover investigation and putting the bad guys in jail. Right now you are just blowing hot air and making cops look bad.
I was the cameraman, and we weren't trespassing. In my back pocket I had a paper from DHS, the owners of the property, allowing me entry. Also, it is not trespassing to go to the entry of a building and ask to speak to someone in charge or ring the bell. What makes these "police" think that they can assault and batter people, perform illegal evictions (like the one witnessed above), and perform other illegal acts? Mind you, these are the police you get if you call 911 from this location.
Shame on Anil Taneja Esq (and his camera man) for trying to make uniformed DHS Cops look bad. There was no assault, but obviously this lawyer has his own rule book. Note also that the lawyer (and cameraman) were trespassing. The DHS Cops are there to protect the homeless and were just doing their job. If there is a problem with the facility then they should be clearer about their charges instead of vague/unsubstantiated accusations. Imagine him showing at your house to film some baseless claims?
This is from nameless and faceless person -- most likely a DHS officer who doesn't know the technical definition of assault, which underscores his ignorance. I wasn't 'trespassing' (look up the definition in Black's Law Dictionary). Finally, I tried to be clear of the charges by requesting to speak to the Director but I was bumrushed by those shameless cops too cowardly to even show their faces on video. It's clear that ITMGR72 is clueless.
people can watch the video and see that is trying to insinuate baseless claims. Kinda like calling me clueless. BTW - I am not a DHS Cop. But I respect the tough job that they do.
Like the pushing shoving out of the building. The grabbing of the camera. The threat of bodily harm, the covering of their badges, etc. It isn't the Rodney King beating, but you should be outraged. All of this for asking to speak to the director?? They did this to an identified lawyer with a pro cam visibly recording. What do they do to people when the cameras arent rolling?
Like the pushing shoving out of the building. The grab of the camera. The threat of bodily harm, the covering of their badges, etc. It isn't the Rodney King beating. But keep in mind they were aware of the camera and all of that was just from asking to speak to the director by an identified lawyer, etc....
ISRAEL
samoterminas 1 week ago
@samoterminas LONG LIVE
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samoterminas 1 week ago
LONG LEAVE ISRAEL !
samoterminas 1 week ago
i thought cops had a weight requirement? why are they all fat slobs? would be easy to run away from these fat turds----how sloppy and disgusting these 'public employees' look.
bobbyeph 2 weeks ago
i like how they look confused and unprofessional
BkBeast23 2 months ago
How come you cant see the man and have him tell you he dont want to see you.
Cops have something to hide.
ml1157 4 months ago
No assault occured. Fake video title flagged
MickScarborough 4 months ago
The Lawyer seems typical. He seems slimey and underhanded. THis sleazy personality is further shown by his use of the absolutely self appointed and meaningless title if "esquire" after his name.
MickScarborough 4 months ago
Typical lawyer...scum of the earth.
dryanmorr 4 months ago
Pigs always act so important! Fucking good law representatives!
MingrelianLaz1 5 months ago
does anyone know what this vid is about at all???
belfast479 5 months ago
nerdy boys - u just looked stupid and irritating. the uniformed guys just doing their job and seemed remakably restrained. your smug faces and facile comments really did merit a punch in the face :-)
CorstonHill 5 months ago
All of you who say there was no assault - YOU ARE CORRECT! However, the act of covering a camera lens IS BATTERY!
Stalicone 7 months ago
Nobody wants to give their address as 'The Gay Centre'. No wonder they look depressed,
wesmatron 7 months ago
Err so what is this like a drug house or something?
dbfan2scfan 7 months ago
gay center XD
smigo1990 9 months ago
i was once a resident on ward's island. seargent agosto harassed me when i was there. I have seen them do so many things that regular nypd wouldn't get away with. I would be happy to sit and talk with the creator of this video, and share so much that i witnessed in there. I heard they've turned around. I was there when that building in the back was used to get high in there, but they lived in there, most of the getting high was in the woods, yard, and bathrooms.;..i could write a book
MrDarrensvideos 1 year ago
A truly stupid video.
LoudCitizen 1 year ago
i need fo you to thtep on the other thide of the gate pleathe
AndrewKo1218 1 year ago
These guys are self appointed bullies! They have no legal authority and can NOT arrest you, only bully you.
johnnyboypdq 1 year ago
@ nybx01 that was a very ignorant remark u made abt the officers... how abt u go 2 wards island knock the shit outta one of the cops and u will go through the real precinct the real bookings and c a real judge... u are a fucking asshole
chynawhite0803 1 year ago
Hey dipshit ~ coast to coast most Homeless shelters fon't allow people to com ein an humiliate the homeless people there ~ as in NO CAMERAS ALLOWED! Would you expect to be allowed in anyones hotel room with cameras??? Your an idiot and YOU are the one holding back information !!!
Charles195th 1 year ago
you dont have to listen to these clown security guards, push right through to see what there hiding :P
hazard2000 1 year ago
@hazard2000 go ahead push through then police brutality would be the last thing you have to think about. I see you both know about the crack house have you been in there????
luv2lic69 1 year ago
roninamano...you're are a douche bag! The only person who looks bad in this video is Anil Taneja, Esq.
MandGHenderson1 1 year ago
Where is there an assault? These are not police officers. They are security guards. Who is the moron who posted this?
Camerman1000 1 year ago 2
Wow that was retarded. There is no assault. I hope you get charged with libel.
Ryangdotexe 2 years ago 9
howdy
evil10 2 years ago
By the way, even the least severe form of Assault does not apply here.
120.00 Assault in the Third Degree:
1. With intent to cause physical injury (PI) to another person, he causes such injury
2. He recklessly causes PI to another person
3. With criminal negligence, he causes PI to another person by means of a deadly weapon ot a dangerous instrument.
Covering your camera lens and asking you to leave is not assault. Adding BRUTALITY to the tags just shows how pathetic you are.
quarrenra 2 years ago 19
Haha lawyer is a Jew. :D
hardincountytigers 2 years ago
They should have arrested your stupid ass, why dont you find something better to do with your time idiot
wstewartny 2 years ago 2
Am I missing something? Where was the assault? I kinda wanted to see the smarmy lil fella get slapped up
youngwombat 2 years ago
lol you shouldn't be a asshole and they were very nice.
NYAssassin 2 years ago
assault? where? technicaly you were tresspassing after the first time they asked you to leave and you didnt. your lucky you didnt ger arrested after the 10th time they told you
resqjason2 2 years ago
well if it's a public place then
why does it matter?
Undermostnewjoe 2 years ago
@Undermostnewjoe
It's not a public place. Homeless Shelters are similar to court houses in that there are certain items not allowed inside. Items like running video cameras.
quarrenra 2 years ago
Police are so corrupt..
YouDoobed 2 years ago 4
They were very nice to you, they should have kicked your dumb ass.
nyguy 3 years ago
FUCK that fat pig. I'd shoot him in the head. BLOW his brains out. They'd be everywhere, baby. 50 CAL, BOOM HEAD SHOT!
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Shut up, fool.
DJEclipseNiagara 2 years ago
Morons with guns. Affirmative action cops. You don't know if the person they are looking for is on the property? All you need to do is call. This is the U.S.A we have a thing called a communication system.
toepedi 3 years ago
thats why peope like you think a cop gives a phone number to call and you call it and they make you wait try again and somehow the lines get disssconnected and you have to try again
peewax16 2 years ago
where is the assault
moneyman237952 3 years ago
BTW most security wouldn't be that patient as ask you to leave that many times.
Espically if you point a camera at them.
badpanda84 3 years ago
That was a very misleading title, if any assult took place at what time on the youtube video did it happen.
All I saw was some say get out and they the lawyer was asked to leave several times.
Anyway I guess everyone hates lawleys even the cops
badpanda84 3 years ago
For the New Year resolution these peace officers should go on a diet. If they have to chase somone they'll be in trouble. The way they ware their hats and the way they are walking. Sad and unprofessional.
kilfrg 3 years ago
There was no assualt. Those are not NYPD police officers they are the only real cops in new york.
nybx01 3 years ago
read lawyer below who explained that months ago. You are wrong. There was assault.
roninamano 3 years ago
@roninamano What you did was only prove how much the public lies when they comes to these facilities. Try something else maybe you should have pushed and officer and got yourself locked up and they would show you fake. STUPID!!!!!
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@roninamano he said the tortfeasers name was fortlaroy like little lord fortlaroy the earl of sandwich said to lord douche bag i do say douche bag is your wife the inspirtation for this new invention your working on
spacepatrolman 4 months ago
@nybx01 you need a real job and do something better with your life. They are making money and your mad because your at a library watching this you probably live there biatch!!!!
luv2lic69 1 year ago
@luv2lic69 I got a real job you faggot ass bitch! Dont be mad cause the truth hurts!
nybx01 1 year ago
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@nybx01 there are all kinds of real cops in new york transit cops housing cops homeless housing cops swat cops traffic cops homicide cops
spacepatrolman 4 months ago
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@spacepatrolman corrections cops probation cops sheriffs cops state cops
spacepatrolman 4 months ago
Assault? Didn't see any. Some context would also be nice.
larsnord 3 years ago 5
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read lawyer below who explained that months ago. You are wrong. There was assault. Context will come from posting the entire show rather than this short clip. I'm working on it.
roninamano 3 years ago
i would not feel comtable going into a bluiding labeled "GAY CENTER"
MADSEEN2009 3 years ago
THey do need firearms becasue they do deal with situations that require them. WIth all do respect the do things regular cops do without firearms. Dont paint all of them with a broad brush.
evil10 3 years ago
I disagree with respect to the need for firearms, but I agree with the rest of your points. I did paint with an overly broad brush, you have a point.
roninamano 3 years ago
Thats not fair actually there was a pilot program a few yeas back to arm them but it was scrapped by Mayor Guilliani when he was trying to save a buck...right now the city is laying the ground work to give them back firearms as they must go through the same application process as an NYPD officer since the start of 2000 including a psychological exam and physical.
evil10 3 years ago
I personally think that the reasons Corrections officers can't carry guns applies here. The shelters are a lot like prisons in every way, intentionally so. The close proximity makes it likely that there will be more abuse, or a loose gun incident. IMHO
roninamano 3 years ago
DHS police officers are defined under the special officer job title series withn NYC. They are one of the hardest working groups out there and they do it un armed.
evil10 3 years ago
God help us all if these guys get firearms. You might as well just hand them to the shelter denizens. Or wait for the next big abuse scandal.
roninamano 3 years ago
The thing about DHS POlice is the city under did get rid of them a few years back and it turned out to be a horrible mistake crime in the shelters sky rocketed they are a needed force to protect the shelter system. the city used security gaurds thiking it would be cheaper but what they didnt realize is gaurds arent cops and just stood there or ran away when crimes happned in the shelters so DHS police was brought back they are actually the closest of all the special officers to getting guns
evil10 3 years ago
This is true. Security guards are useless. But DHS Police are very abusive and power mad. A lot like DOC but without any professionalism or real security effect. IMHO
roninamano 3 years ago
Thats not fair they do provide security as was proven when the city disbanded them in the 1990's and crime skyrocketed. Originally they where part of the HRA police force before HRA was disbanded and crime skyrocketed. THey are a good group of guys
evil10 3 years ago
You are right. It isn't fair. I am basing my opinion on a relatively small sampling of DHS officers who were pretty incompetent. I invite you to take this up on the RWN blog or forum.
roninamano 3 years ago
They are working to improve standards a bit but they are very professional out of all the " special officer" job titles under NYC civil service jurisdiction
evil10 3 years ago
My problem was that during the security scan search they laid out all the people's property for all to see (including the just released cons). And then refuse to make a report when (surprise, surprise) the stuff is stolen (cell phones, wallets, keys, etc.)
roninamano 3 years ago
GAY CENTER
crytoyourmom 3 years ago
I know, I know...
roninamano 3 years ago
The law states that in order for it to be considered assault,there must be noticeable physical injury.FYI, battery is not listed in the law any longer due to situations like this one. At the most,this was a case of harassment and thats a stretch.
Ghostbusternyc 3 years ago
Exactly what is the source of your "Law"? That would be an absolute first for any jurisdiction in the Western world! What possessed you to simply make up a false definition of assault?
roninamano 3 years ago
the gay center.....haha
jessenicholas1 3 years ago
I felt like I was watchin MXC.
Switouski 3 years ago
First of all,just because you put on a suit and a tie,doesn't mean you're a lawyer. Second,there was no physical contact,let alone an assault,if you were actually a lawyer,you'd know that.
Ghostbusternyc 3 years ago
Your an idiot. Lawyers are all publicly listed officers of the court, and falsely claiming to be one is a crime. Again, you are an idiot. Assault doesn't require any contact at all, that's battery. Go to your high school civics teacher and demand a refund. Yours was the dumbest post we've ever gotten.
roninamano 3 years ago
Wasn't Charles H at home?
Was this a centre for gay's?
I had a similar experience and I know exactly how you must be feeling.
Does this video help bring in much business?
RAGtagBAG88 3 years ago
Actually, that was a play on the name of the center when I posted this. However, now it appears that some parts of this place are exclusively for gay homeless men and gay DHS police. This hasn't been verified. FYI- the straight residents call it anything but the "Gay" shelter. They prefer to call it Ward's Island and the particular building names- Keener, Clark-Thomas, and Shwartz.
roninamano 3 years ago
OMG thats terrible!!! did the lawyer live?? i bet he has a long road to recovery. Is there anywhere i can make donations? jesus i feel bad for his family..I hope he's okay!!!!
loveisred123 3 years ago
No assault shown. Didn't happen. What a misleading title too. "Homeless NYC Cops" denotes cops that are homeless.
setec0001 3 years ago
What, you can't read? The subtitle says lawyer assaulted by cops at a homeless shelter. And if you would read some earlier comments you would know what assault refers too. Read, read.
roninamano 3 years ago
he said nothing about the subtitle. the TITLE says homeless NYC cops. your little nerd friend is a homo too
smallzabe 3 years ago 3
I saw no assault i didnt even see battery what is your problem if yourve got a point of view dont fucking like to get people to watch your video just present it im not going to believe whatver your story is after watching this lie of a video
Nmemonicus 3 years ago
What kind of lawyer do you consider you consider yourself? I only ask because I am in a Court Class trying to get my major in Police Science.
NewbernFireDept 3 years ago
Speaking for Anil I'll hazard a guess that he considers himself a licensed lawyer. Of the genus- passus the barrus.
roninamano 3 years ago
You're a real brilliant lawyer. Bringing a camera on city property and then taping footage of persons who reside there without their express permission. This was a clear violation of their Confidentiality rights. As a lawyer you should have known better. I would personally sue you for broadcasting this on the internet. You clearly have proven yourself to be an opportunist, rather an advocate of human rights.
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CHASDIESEL 3 years ago
Where are these confidentiality rights written? What legal expertise do you claim? Why should such behavior be above reporting? What cause of action would you sue on? (And why can't you be counter-sued for a frivolous lawsuit?)
roninamano 3 years ago
why cant ya film them.they film us everywhere..even camras on the street.
pea8vey 3 years ago 3
And Mayor Bloomberg seeks more cameras with congestion pricing (a/k/a the Peasant Monitoring System). The main point of this is to show how they react in a totally physical way inappropriately. What you have to ask yourself is why? And why when cameras aren't rolling helpless homeless guys get the crap kicked out of them at random.
roninamano 3 years ago
man, what a let down, i was looking to see a lawer get his ass kicked.
you were not assaulted.
if you were in my way after i asked you move once, you would get much worse than that from
me.
now, i understand what your trying to do & i commend that, but your headline for this video is misleading.
you should have had a business card.
notagain48 4 years ago
Actually that is assault. See some of the earlier comments on that. We also had better than a business card. See earlier comments, we had an authorization to enter from their main office- but they really just attacked rather than let us present it.
roninamano 3 years ago
why were there officers there for a homeless shelter?
joeyc85 4 years ago
My personal opinion is that their main function is to convince the residents that they are in prison. They serve no other purpose. They don't even write stolen property reports!
roninamano 4 years ago
Opinions are like assholes... everybody has one! It's no suprize you're thinking like one. Most Shelters have security guards, police, or both. All shelters have policies & proceedures, And All shelter clients have an absolute right to PRIVACY! Now if that moron was smart... he should have made PROPER arrangements with City, before he shit his brains out that morning.
BxDeadMan13 4 years ago 3
Further More... The Officers that work within the shelters, are there to maintain peace, & safety between, and for ALL clients, staff & visitors. The do have real athority, and do a hell of alot more than your peice of shit ignorant ass cares to know about!
BxDeadMan13 4 years ago
Assault??? whoever posted this video so beyond unintelligent its not even funny. This isn't even a case of harrassment. This is a case a civilian thinking he has more rights then he does. Get a life guys.
shimshamms 4 years ago 2
Uh, read the definition of assault posted earlier. Then stick foot in mouth holster.
roninamano 4 years ago
Clearly there was no assault on anyone here. Look it up on the penal law, nothing on this video spells out assault on anyone here. There are no absolutely no physical injuries here at all. You make charges like that look it up in the penal law first before u come up with something stupid as Homeless NYC Cops Assault Lawyer.
ltavilas 4 years ago 2
See lawyers response below
roninamano 4 years ago
this guy sounds like an idiot
jjspambox 4 years ago
What a load of BS. The lawyer is a tad annoying and IMO a total prick. I am not supprised he didn't get a meeting if his previous behaviour has been of a similar standard. You can dress a fool in an expensive suit but he's still just a well dressed fool.
Sniper8052 4 years ago 2
Those arent NYC police officers those are police officers of the NYC department of Homeless services a separate agency...they arent full fleged police officers they are called peace officers under NYS law they dont even carry guns.
evil10 4 years ago 5
I make that point in the video. They are definitely not NYPD by any stretch of the imagination. They lack a functioning Internal Affairs Unit. However, are you sure that they are peace officers? Their uniforms clearly state "POLICE". They would be guilty of impersonating police if they truly are not police. But that's clearly a decision made from the top of the agency (perhaps years ago) and not the individuals.
roninamano 4 years ago
No They do not have an internal affairs per se they are investigated by the NYC department of investigation in that aspect. They are allowed to use the word police as it stands from an memorandum of understanding between that agency and the NYC police department and the fact they have arrest powers both on and off duty, believe it or not many agencies use the word police in their names when they are not actually full police officers, it really hasnt been a problem over the years.
evil10 4 years ago 3
As long at the agency has arrest powers granted by the NYS penal law or given "special patrolman " status by the NYPD they can use the word police.
evil10 4 years ago 3
Ill check it out, that's definitely a plausible explanation and might explain the total disregard for property rights and free speech- very limited training.
roninamano 4 years ago
Not really the training is different in some aspects and some agencies though peace officers send their cops through a full police academy. but all in all when it comes down to training on the penal law aspect of things and such it is all the same.
evil10 4 years ago 2
I observed one DHSPD officer with a detective's shield. That seems odd.
roninamano 4 years ago
some agencies who are peace officers have detectives it quite normal and some peace officers have full police powers when doing certain activites but bottom line the only real difference between peace and police officers is one can apply for a warrant and the other cannot and also there are slightly differing rules regauring probably cause and such.
evil10 4 years ago 3
Dude, you are seriously well informed. I'm impressed, especially about that differing standards of probable cause. You are welcome to come be a talking head on the show if you are available.
roninamano 4 years ago
I wouldn't mind that ..
evil10 3 years ago
Ok, Great. Just contact me through youtube or via email (get from the website)
roninamano 3 years ago
What happened? Haven't got a response from you.
roninamano 3 years ago
sorry been busy with work what do you want to know ?
evil10 3 years ago
fatass police
Biohazardousbunny 4 years ago
I'll have to check this out. It sounds very plausible with a memorandum of understanding. I could see that happening. The last time I checked the statute it was pretty clear about dividing police from peace officers but my focus was on the automatic status given to off-duty federal officers. You can see the careful delineation with Corrections, CUNY security, MTA Collections, and Fireman, all peace officers who clearly are not police (and many carry guns on duty).
roninamano 4 years ago
Fireman are actually peace officers under NYS law the thing is with them its a grey area but the reason they have peace officer status is to have the power to write summonses and fire code violation write ups
evil10 3 years ago
They also have a serious quasi-military structure going on and they tend to act in their peace officer status under command of a lieutenant. Occasionally some problems, but kinda rare with them.
roninamano 3 years ago
With firefighters its a whole different animal but all around they are cool people.
evil10 3 years ago
your an instigator. its people like you why other people dont respect the police. why do you feel as if you were "assaulted?"
witegetobro 3 years ago
The DOI is a serious investigation agency for the entire city- including NYPD Internal Affairs... But I meant that they have no complaint structure set up within DHSPD to quickly nip problem officers in the bud.
roninamano 4 years ago
each agency has its own rank structure and way of doing things some have detectives some do not some allow officers to carry guns and some do not. Mind you MTA revenue collections are not police officers or peace officers they are armed security gaurds granted weapon permits by NYC
evil10 4 years ago
trust me DOI is about as useful as a sewing needle in a gun fight....they only go after folks they are " told " to go after
evil10 4 years ago
Actually, the Times articles on frmr Commish Kerik really seems to prove your point. Except in that case they were ordered to lay off by Rudy.
roninamano 4 years ago
like I said they only go after who they are told to go after or if the public notices
evil10 4 years ago
@evil10 another client has something to say after he lost his bed!!
luv2lic69 1 year ago
Great footage...my question is the following, when covering a story/event such as the one you filmed, are you require to have permission to film on location? Can you film any public figure/civil servant without being sued?
All the best.
ProductionTime 4 years ago
No, its in the First Amendment. Just today the Post showed a Traffic Cop snoozing in her car.
roninamano 4 years ago
why are there cops at a homeless centre for gods sake. They are bastards
pinkyperky5000 4 years ago
They are posted in there and there is even a prison-like fence surrounding the place. Somewhere along the line NYC forgot that these are free men. Probably during the Guiliani administration.
roninamano 4 years ago
that wasnt a assault.the cops didnt hit or push them!!
venomtrem 4 years ago 2
Yes its assault. Explained in detail by lawyer in previous comment.
roninamano 4 years ago
And its assault AND battery on the cameraman- ME!!
roninamano 4 years ago
I hate those guys and they look stupid to me if i'm a cop i will tast his asshole/
Willbrown168 4 years ago
HAHA!!!! Go to 1:52 and check out this cop!!! Now that is a pig! Classic.
budded420 4 years ago
You state "He was pacific". Are you talking about the Ocean? You are a fucking nerd. Work on getting laid and learning how to speak without an impediment. You should be thrown off the porperty. You are clowns. Did you graduate from CUNY Law?
h2x21 4 years ago
Nope. Graduated from a top-20 law school. You seem pretty hostile. About as hostile and defensive as those DHS officers. Anyone who has to curse and insult obviously doesn't have a solid basis for argument. Obviously, any idiot off the street can post what you just did -- not very intelligent -- in syntax or substance.
daredevil10001 4 years ago
Where was the assault part?
korban37 4 years ago 3
Read other comments below- its assault.
roninamano 4 years ago
But more importantly, imagine you're a homeless person freezing in the cold and you are assigned to this shelter and meet these uniformed goons who beat you up and throw you out into the cold, over 5 desolate miles and a bridge away from the rest of Manhattan and civilization. It could cost you your life- and according to several homeless people and a newspaper or two, deaths have happened aroound these Volunteers of America shelters.
roninamano 4 years ago
This shouldn't be that hard to document and I will be glad to help you arrest them then. Right now all you did was make the DHS Cops look bad without any proof. You are breaking your own rules!
itmgr72 4 years ago 2
As the lawyer above, to be fair, I wasn't aware of any newspaper articles indicating that deaths had happened around these VOA shelters. Also, none of interviewees specifically said they were thrown out into the cold and beaten up (although they alleged abuse). But from the evasive and defensive behavior of the DHS officers, I wouldn't count anything out. And the real shame is the Director didn't even come out to discuss the issues like a true professional.
daredevil10001 4 years ago
If nothing else it lends credibility to the brutality alleged by the residents (to be posted soon). Let's keep in mind that these "police" acted without checking the bona fides of an identified attorney with a cameraman asking for the director by name. In each and every NYC shelter is a directive listing homeless advocates who can enter at any time without notice or escort or hinderance. These "police" clearly are in violation of that directive.
roninamano 4 years ago
If there is any brutality in the shelters then I completely support an undercover investigation and putting the bad guys in jail. Right now you are just blowing hot air and making cops look bad.
itmgr72 4 years ago 2
I was the cameraman, and we weren't trespassing. In my back pocket I had a paper from DHS, the owners of the property, allowing me entry. Also, it is not trespassing to go to the entry of a building and ask to speak to someone in charge or ring the bell. What makes these "police" think that they can assault and batter people, perform illegal evictions (like the one witnessed above), and perform other illegal acts? Mind you, these are the police you get if you call 911 from this location.
roninamano 4 years ago
So did you sign up to help protect and guard the shelters? The DHS Cops have a tough job and all you accomplished was make them look stupid.
itmgr72 4 years ago
They looked "stupid" without their help. PIG LOVER
budded420 4 years ago
Shame on Anil Taneja Esq (and his camera man) for trying to make uniformed DHS Cops look bad. There was no assault, but obviously this lawyer has his own rule book. Note also that the lawyer (and cameraman) were trespassing. The DHS Cops are there to protect the homeless and were just doing their job. If there is a problem with the facility then they should be clearer about their charges instead of vague/unsubstantiated accusations. Imagine him showing at your house to film some baseless claims?
itmgr72 4 years ago
see below
roninamano 4 years ago
This is from nameless and faceless person -- most likely a DHS officer who doesn't know the technical definition of assault, which underscores his ignorance. I wasn't 'trespassing' (look up the definition in Black's Law Dictionary). Finally, I tried to be clear of the charges by requesting to speak to the Director but I was bumrushed by those shameless cops too cowardly to even show their faces on video. It's clear that ITMGR72 is clueless.
daredevil10001 4 years ago
people can watch the video and see that is trying to insinuate baseless claims. Kinda like calling me clueless. BTW - I am not a DHS Cop. But I respect the tough job that they do.
itmgr72 4 years ago
Like the pushing shoving out of the building. The grabbing of the camera. The threat of bodily harm, the covering of their badges, etc. It isn't the Rodney King beating, but you should be outraged. All of this for asking to speak to the director?? They did this to an identified lawyer with a pro cam visibly recording. What do they do to people when the cameras arent rolling?
roninamano 5 years ago
i was all prepared to be outraged. where's the assault?
weisbergler 5 years ago
Like the pushing shoving out of the building. The grab of the camera. The threat of bodily harm, the covering of their badges, etc. It isn't the Rodney King beating. But keep in mind they were aware of the camera and all of that was just from asking to speak to the director by an identified lawyer, etc....
roninamano 5 years ago
if you came into my home (or shelter and tried to film me - I would be pretty annoyed with you. Homeless people have a right to privacy too.
itmgr72 4 years ago 2
Where do you see annoyed homeless people? All I see is cops accused of brutality against homeless people demonstrating their modus operandi.
roninamano 4 years ago
The cops might be homeless but they're not starving.
mclifer 5 years ago