Your vids are the most well thought out arguments against religion that I've seen from anyone. Always polite and rational with tremendous potential to de-convert. Most extremely excellent!
So to escape the higher law, without consequence I need god who crucified himself in this world as a sacrifice to himself so he can be my lawyer in heaven defending me against himself for a crime that is yet completely unclear to me. And to top it off all that is based on one book compiled by humans, written over 6000 years (apparently) with currently every trace of god or his prophets gone south. For an outsider this sounds fantastically bizarre to me. Almost like a pyramid scheme.
Similarly, when we break a law of man, we must answer for our indiscretion. Ignorance has no place in man’s court of law and is why people need a mediator when going before the magistrate or judge. We must pay the consequences of our transgression. In more serious crimes of man, some consequences require the death penalty, without escape. GOD sent His Only Begotten SON to be our redeemer from our sin of breaking GOD’s laws. Accepting His Son dying on the cross for our sins, is called salvation.
@1LonePuma The court of law is for crimes you commit that actually is a crime. In other words you hurt, thieved or otherwise has caused harm to another person. Not someone in your family 6000 years ago. Also I would be quite uncomfortable if the judge then calls upon his only son and nails him to a cross in the court room so I do not get punished at all. Sounds to me that judge needs serious psychiatric help. Hopefully you will understand that some people cannot see this weird practice as a good
@CrashPilot4: I think you're missing the point, but God has his laws and if you sin against them you must pay the consequences unless you have an advocate. A way for your sins to be forgiven. That is what Jesus did for humanity, he died for your sins, if you accept this free gift. It's obvious God has a higher law with eternal consequences that cannot be paid unless you have the Lord Jesus Christ, that's the good news. The Gospel. Nevertheless, the choice is yours to deny or accept.
The god of the bible they want us to follow is a Narcissist, all this love hate, punish, reward is what narcissist's do, this is mental enslavement and abuse..
This is as good as you can get. Send it to all your religious friends and tell them watching it has troubled you, and you need their help. Then TRY TO HOLD BACK YOUR LAUGHTER.
Non-stamp collector, great video! I have viewed about seven of your videos and love them all. They each make a valid point while remaining fresh and entertaining.
you and your friends start crying all at the same time out of pure happiness and you all see the most beautiful horse ever at the same time. was it likely that would happen to you? replace jesus with horse and horse convention with jesus camp. you are unbelievable moronic. you called me a shallow thinker. that sounds like an insult to me. therefore your reasoning sucks. according to you at least.
@JustTrollinAlong Frankly, if the horse camp happened like Jesus camp, all rational people would say that I must have been moved by the efforts of the horse breeders. They would not say horses are actually supernatural.
@JustTrollinAlong You've just demonstrated shallow thinking, and proved my point. Your attention span failed to allow you to remember the original word you, yourself, posted. "unexplainable" Your further shallow thinking made a half-arsed attempt at making a metaphor of horse shows. Which also failed to be unexplainable. Are you trying to demonstrate why you're wrong. That's very meta of you, since troll is in your own name. I applaud that.
@Enginmaster and you used shallow thinking as an insult, therefore your reasoning sucks according to you, you could have left it out since it was irrelevant and had no bearing on anything nor did in contribute to the convo, therefore it was an insult. so you are stupid according to you. i guarantee im a deeper thinker than you considering i have come up with original logical proofs against the existence of a god and im only 19.
@JustTrollinAlong Shallow thinking isn't an insult. It's just the dictionary definition of what I'm witnessing here. I'm seeing you projecting whatever I say of your argument on my arguments without any actual logical process or links. I'm seeing you not thinking about the definition of any of the words you say. I'm seeing you not process main concepts successfully. It's no insult to call that shallow thinking, any more than it would be insulting of me to say Dr Seuss used rhyming.
@Enginmaster i do project it on your arguments because you're being a hypocrite. name 5 words i have used incorrectly and tell me how that demonstrates shallow thinking. you say i havent processes concepts sucessfully which shows shallow thinking. you only say that because you think you are right.
you cant successfully process the concept of a world where a square circle is a person that is infinite and eternal and divides by zero, you can process impossible concepts, therefore you are shallow.
@JustTrollinAlong Except you do it shallowly, without any actual basis. I actually use points of evidence, like your own words. You use bare assertion. A very telling logical fallacy. It's ok, you're a teenager still. But don't think that your age makes that thinking any less shallow. "you cant successfully process the concept of a world where a square circle is a person that is infinite and eternal and divides by zero" Nothing to process. Those are non-concepts.
@Enginmaster no they are concepts. i just came up with a square circle. its a circle thats square. its a concept, but one cant possible process it. therefore your assertion that not processing concepts successfully makes one shallow in thought is disproven. oh i use bald assertion? really? i used basic psychology, probability, induction, logically valid and sound premises and conclusions, you use what? name the evidence you have provided. "go ask a psychologist" "it could have been x"
@JustTrollinAlong They are self-contradictory terms. It's not deep to take words that could agree grammatically, but make no semantic sense, such as a green smell, and state that you understand them. It's childish. You didn't use psychology. I did. Then you ignored it. Try again. I've taken a semester of psychology here at the University. You've taken up trolling on youtube. Just sayin.
@Enginmaster you said "they were at jesus camp, therefore brainwashing was highly likely the cause."
i refuted this 7 times if not more.
"they were disinterested, they were brought up with reason. they werent brought up religious. they were in very unreligious circumstances when it happened. they all felt it at the same exact time which itself is unlikely."
@JustTrollinAlong You have a very inaccurate definition of "refute" if you think simply bare asserting "nuh uh, they didn't get brainwashed there, they were skeptical" was a refutation. You would not do well in a science lab if that was refutation to you. "explain how it is likely given the above"
Really, you don't understand? Your parents express how important Jesus is to you, you immerse your teen self in an environment of guilting you and spouting Jesus at you. That's brainwashing.
@Enginmaster oh? so parents deciding to become religious after years of telling their kids its bullshit since they were little and then sending them off to camp the next week is brainwashing? really? wow i didnt realize it was that easy. i can make millions now. thanks.
@JustTrollinAlong Yeah. Sending kids to religious camp is brainwashing. It's their job to make brainwashing easy. In the old days, if you wanted your kid to conform to your belief system, you had to do all the forcing to go to confessionals and church yourself. Now they do it for a small one time payment at the beginning of the summer. Millions? Please. Jesus camps make way more than that. Billions is more like it.
also, my rudeness is due to your rude assumptions which are insulting to my intelligence, the intelligence of my friends, our integrity, and to the conversation. thats why i called you names. but way to be self delusional and think it wasnt warranted at all. you should try to be more objective.
@JustTrollinAlong Rudeness is just a sign of poor reasoning skills, dude. I'm taking it as a cry for help, but ignoring it, because I don't think you need help.
@Enginmaster well your assumptions were quite rude, which means you must have poor reasoning skills according to you. which means you arent really in a position to be telling me what is rude and what isnt and cant really call me hateful. it also somewhat discredits you and shows why you're having a hard time grasping this concept im trying to convey.
@JustTrollinAlong You have a strange definition of rude. If politely pointing out that personal emotional conviction is not convincing evidence, and pointing out further that people do not have a right to silence us from saying exactly how silly a belief is is rude to you, I fear we are not using the same language. If I have evidence you hate things, it's right to say you have hatred. If that hatred is presented rudely, it's my duty to point that out. You don't have a well developed concept.
@Enginmaster now you are being dishonest which is also pretty rude. you didnt just "point out that its not convincing" you made assumptions and statements the implications of which were insulting to me and my friends in more than one way. you havent refuted my argument to present, and you have only made attempts to discredit their experience by throwing out uninformed ideas based on faulty assumptions because you dont even know all the details and i refute your assertions which details.
@JustTrollinAlong I'm not being dishonest. I did just point out that it's not convincing. You're saying I made assumptions, but not elaborating. I think you're lying. Prove me wrong, by actually stating the assumptions you say are assumptions. If you feel insulted by something that's not insulting, me pointing out that their experience wasn't a real thing, that's on you and them, not me. Islam feels insulted if you call a teddy bear Mohammed. That doesn't make it actually insulting.
@Enginmaster the later part of your comment is akin to me saying "you may feel insulted when i call your mom a whore, but that doesnt make it actually insulting" when you make fun of something important to somebody, thats generally considered insulting. you poor reasoning is showing sir.
@JustTrollinAlong Actually no. Because naming a teddy bear Mohammed, which happened by a Muslim kid in a classroom in Sudan, is completely innocuous. The kid was not making fun of his own religion, but the elders still called it a horrible and insulting thing, and tried to get a teacher supervising him to be stoned. It's absolute crap. If you get insulted easily like that, you bear the responsibility of the insults, not I. I didn't intend insult. It wasn't, therefore, an insult.
@Enginmaster you didnt say naming a teddy bear mohammed, you said calling a teddy bear mohammed, i misinterpreted the meaning. the later part of your comment is still retarded, even more so then my misinterpreted version of the teddy bear thing.
i say "lol what a fucking nigger" when a friend does something, black guy hears it. i didnt intend to insult him. therefore it wasnt and insult? you are retarded if you actually think that. its okay to be wrong.
@JustTrollinAlong Naming and calling are exactly the same thing. If you took Spanish, you'd know that. Because "me llamo" literally just means "I call myself". i.e. "I am named" If a term has been used historically always to hurt, then yes, it's offensive. Teddy bear Mohammed and letting your friends know they didn't have a real experience are not historically hurtful. It's not insulting. You're not doing too well in this debate when it comes to logic. I hope you intend to improve.
@JustTrollinAlong I said I didn't intend to insult, yes, and then it isn't insulting. If you know the n-word (btw, quite rude of you to post it unbleeped) then you know its history. There's nobody in the world right now that doesn't know it's historical hurtfulness that will ever use it. It will always be insulting by my standard. You'd say you're not losing, but you also said "it's unexplainable" even though I've given like 2 explanations already. You're wrong, historically speaking.
@Enginmaster right so i said nigger without intending to insult, therefore it isnt insulting, thats your argument. you then say that the word is insulting no matter what.
@JustTrollinAlong You knew that it's an insulting word, which is why you used it. You therefore did not intend for it to be non-insulting. I, on the other hand, never regarded, nor ever heard of it being insulting to disagree with someone on what they saw and what the cause of the sighting is. Therefore I am not insulting. You, on the other hand, cannot seem to go 2 posts without hurling 2 or 3 insults at me at a time. You're very rude. Who raised you?
@Enginmaster it doesnt matter what the definition of insulting is because i didnt intend it to be insulting. therefore it isnt. according to you. you havent refuted it and you are so dishonest that you are trying to weasel your way out of accepting that you were wrong.
1. one says something and doesnt intend it as insult.
@JustTrollinAlong You're not honest if you think saying something you know to be an insult is not meant to be insulting. I'm not saying what I said is no insult just because "I say" it is not an insult. I'm saying it's not an insult because I actually DON'T think of it as an insult. Whereas your n-word thing was clearly known to you as an insult first. Please take a college course on logic and debate.
@JustTrollinAlong There is one exception to your very poor example of the n-word of course. If a 6 year old reads a line or two of Mark Twain's story, they're not insulting Jim. It's not until they learn the word that it's an insult.
i'm a christian who really enjoys these videos, i find that it helps me deconstruct or reaffirm my beliefs and i just think they're entertaining. Maybe that's cause i'm not a fundamentalist or really have much in common with Evangelical traditional belief anymore. However it seems like he is more concerned with Protestant Evangelical common beliefs. i would be interested in his views on theological writings of early church fathers in the Orthodox christian tradition.
We would all follow A&E, God forgives and restores those that dont wanna remain in evil. Those that do, create their own hell, via their hostility towards God. Hell is your own destructive state of being and the place called hell is to keep ur destructiveness away from the righteous.
We would all follow A&E, God forgives and restores those that dont wanna remain in evil. Those that do, create their own hell, via their hostility towards God. Hell is your own destructive state of being and the place called hell is to keep ur destructiveness away from the righteous.
Is it possible for any man to fulfill God's HOLY criteria? No? Why not if he wants it fulfilled? If as a designer I want a light bulb to illuminate a room, I design it so. If I want a cup to hold water, I do not purposely put a hole in it and then curse it for draining water.
@Reggie1971 "" put a hole in it and then curse it""
He allows you to rebel and then allows u to repent. So stop ur whining and admit that ur choice to rebel was stupid and ask Him ot change u and take control of u.
@SnafuFrank Then what are u doing here? Looking for entertainment value? This is a religious video and religious comments. Until uve experienced God , He is boring bc ur sin nature is repulsed by God and hates God. You cant help it, if u wont repent and ask for God to change u.
@strengthinweakness1 God's choice was to make everyone predisposed to sin. In other words, he intended for you to sin. Incredibly, it was his will that you did not do his "will". Adam and Eve we are told did not know right from wrong until they ate of the tree, so how did they know that doing such a thing beforehand was wrong? This "god" (fictional...hopefully) set things up so that they could fail. "Free will" is a farce. Tell me why it is so important if it results in billions pershing?
@Reggie1971 Also with respect to free will, I would again allude to Romans 9. It is quite clear in stating that "god" makes certain people unto destruction. He hardens their hearts. In other words, it is his will that they perish. The earth is one big drama to him cast with billions of villains. Except they don't get an Academy award for their performance. They get eternal fire as their reward for entertaining "god".
@Reggie1971 Well, as I understand, God himself is responsible for the "villains" which are on earth, including homosexuals and atheits. And now HE destroys them all, like an agry kid whose tinker-toy won't work out the way it should? This is soo ridiculous and pathetic, I pity you.
"" no one as depraved as the biblical character Yahweh ""
Yep this is to be expected. Man denies his sin and blames another as God seeks to put a hinderance on the spread of sin and its destructive force. Yes God kills everyone for the wages of sin is death. Its actually amazing that God puts up with out sin for so long and actually saves and reforms some and take them to heaven with him.
@j919or Why would God make us predisposed to sin? He wants free will? Are we really able to live a life in accordance with God's wishes. It's amazing that only one man among tens of billions has managed to pull it off if that's so.
@Reggie1971 Sin is rejection of God and independence. Hell is separation from God. Reconnect to God. He doesnt want u to try to be perfect but to trust Him to make u perfect. Its not about laws it about entrusting ones life to God. The laws just reveal our independence and should compel us to complete depedence. Its not believing stuff but entrusting ones self to God.
Its never gods fault but since you blame him you reveal ur sin. If you were willing to do his will then ud want to know and u would know. When I was done with my own will and begged God to save me from mew at the controls, there was no bible and nobody but God came over me with complete power and peace and contentment and it was there that I fell in love with him.Then he guided me to read the bible and I totally understood it.
Its never gods fault but since you blame him you reveal ur sin. If you were willing to do his will then ud want to know and u would know. When I was done with my own will and begged God to save me from mew at the controls, there was no bible and nobody but God came over me with complete power and peace and contentment and it was there that I fell in love with him. Then he guided me to read the bible and I totally understood it.
They chose to reject God in favor of the creation for they believed that the creation was better than God. All people have tasted evil and can decide if they wanna stayu in it. They also saw the damage that it did to God in Jesus and to the rest of creation. They can harden their hearts or let God fix the problem and cause us to fall in love with in, w/o which eternity is misery. Perfect love for a perfect being forever = pure bliss. All else forever = pure misery
You fools mock God to lessen the guilt and awareness of evil. Evil is deliberate disconnection to God while faith in deliberate reconnection to GOd. Disconnection is death and reconnection is life. Just like plugging in a lamp lights it up while unplugging it causes darkness. Its so simple but as Jesus said, Evildoers wont come to the light for fear their deeds be exposed.
Nah. You are obvioiusly just another young college lemming. You paid alot ot get into school and now u had better agree in order to get a good grade and fit into the establishment. Rather there is evidence that Jesus was God
1. gospels are best ancient history
2. miracles
3. fulfilled prophecy
4, changed lives thru the experience of Gods power in millions
Nah. You are obvioiusly just another young college lemming. You paid alot ot get into school and now u had better agree in order to get a good grade and fit into the establishment. Rather there is evidence that Jesus was God
1. gospels are best ancient history
2. miracles
3. fulfilled prophecy
4, changed lives thru the experience of Gods power in millions
Nah. You are obvioiusly just another young college lemming. You paid alot ot get into school and now u had better agree in order to get a good grade and fit into the establishment. Rather there is evidence that Jesus was God
1. gospels are best ancient history
2. miracles
3. fulfilled prophecy
4, changed lives thru the experience of Gods power in millions.
@j919or Things being complex evidence is not evidence of God. If things appear complex, the convenient thing to do is to make the assumption that there is a God that just makes it happen. However, the logical thing to do is to try to investigate how science really works and what drives it, by using evidence to form opinions or conclusions. It is sad that so many people will form their conclusion (i.e., "God exists) and then try to find evidence to support it, rather than the other way around.
1. Things ARE complex. Any evidence that doesnt fit ur assumptions is now dismissed as illusion. Dawkins even admitted that the complexity of the universe is overwhelming.
2.The only conclusion to such complexity is one that with greater complexity made it all. Things dont randomly produce complexity.
3.science works by repeatable obvservable processis, not historical reconstruction. YOU are a complete fool reagrdless that you have plenty of company
« The only conclusion to such complexity is one that with greater complexity made it all. »
Which leads to infinite regression, as that superior complexity would have had to have a more complex creator still, and so on.
But in stead what we find in nature is that complex behaviors result from simple systems. A system described by a few simple behavioral properties can result in behavior so complex that it effectively becomes unpredictable.
Yes, there are. Look up the history of chaos theory, see how early measurements of the chaotic behaviour of non-linear dynamic systems were based on eminently simple convective models. They basically built test rigs with just enough room for one convective cycle, so that only one cycle could form, so that the behaviour of the system closely followed the models for convection.
Nah. I left out that the creator of this universe must be infinite to produce all of this from nothing. And if infinite in power and complexity then also infinite in time for God/eternal. Behaviors nevered entered this discussion for behaviors are varied and are the result of many forces acting on the system.
seriously i love every one of your videos. i wish you would make one that illustrates the belief issue.. maybe a father lovingly and then angrily trying to get his son to believe in santa claus.
the father and son motif works really well, what with it being the biblical model and all..
liopol2 yes teapot! im addicted too, and i need more..
i lmfao every time i think of the freewill vids, or think to myself "i'm going to have to carry out a massive slaughter"..
btw i love that point about deciding to believe - i talk about that issue a lot. it is impossible to make yourself believe something. at best you can protect a preordained conclusion, chosen for unrelated reasons, by stopping yourself from thinking contrary thoughts. but the brain keeps a log..
just do what ever the hell you want and when you die and your the one in front of god, dont panic, you can totally blag your way in. god is a dipshit.
@FuckYourGod8866 I know right so for 90 years people go and get bored to tears 3 or 4 times a week so when they die they can experience the same thing and be bored 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Sounds fun LOL
"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS NOT IN ANY SENSE FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." (Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: Written during the Administration of George Washington and signed into law by John Adams.)
...and posting rows of bible quotes doesn't prove anything. I can quote The Lord of the Rings and Monty Python all day - but their just fiction... just like the bible.
Oh wait, tolkein and John Cleese don't call for the torture and murder that the bible does. Just ignore that miserable piece of crap. You'll be happier and more honest.
@damaude2010 You ever think about, if it did exist, what eternity in heaven would really be like?
Forever, and ever, and ever, and ever, and ever, and ever . . .
Psalm 113 1Praise ye the LORD. Praise, O ye servants of the LORD, praise the name of the LORD. 2Blessed be the name of the LORD from this time forth and for evermore. 3From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the LORD's name is to be praised.
Evidence...You want evidence for God's hand in creation. Tonight go outside and look at the sky. Do you see the stars? Or the rising and setting of the sun isn't it beautiful? Then ask yourself. Can all this come from randomness? Or beauty from chaos? Are you saying laughter comes from the way chemicals react in my brain? Or that tears of my eyes are triggered not by a soul or a spirit? That the essence of thought is billions of brain cells randomly joining together for one purpose?
@TheEagleTeeth the stars debunk the bible's claims. Look at the sky? Seriously? You assert it's all created, without evidence? Let's assume it is created, which you do, how can you tell by looking at the sky which god did it? Yes, it could've been random. Yes, beauty can come from chaos. Yes, laughter is a product of a brain doing what brains do. When the brain is damaged it can screw up laughing, even thinking. No evidence for souls and spirits. Tears come from souls? Are you an idiot?
@viridismonasteriense You really beleive that. That one explosion can create everything? It takes more faith to beleive in evolution than to beleive in any other religion on the face of this Earth. That man came from apes. Are you kidding me? What evidence do you have for that none. That cells came from nothing? Biogenesis was disproven hundreds of years ago. Go look it up. You guys think you are so smart with your lowsy evidence when the same evidence condemns you
@TheEagleTeeth Man did not come from apes. An explosion didn't create everything. It doesn't take faith to understand evolution. Abiogenesis has not been debunked hundreds of years ago, because back then people had no idea what it was.
Atheism has nothing to do with any of these things and debunking any of it, whether it be the big bang or evolution, doesn't make theism look any better. You're trying to distract from the fact that theism has nothing. No evidence. You are ignorant.
@TheEagleTeeth Man didn't evolve from apes, we evolved from a common ancestor that we share with the great apes we see today. We're simply cousins. This ancestor is called Kenyapithicus. Look it up :). If you understood evolution, you'd not only see that its an interesting, very cool subject, but you don't even need to have faith for it. Why? Evidence, evidence, evidence.
@Ulixes83 Yes that is true the brain is still God's creation. I knew I made a mistake when I added that part in. Bot what I was trying to get across was can you really beleive that laughter was a mistake, a random act of molecules, of a very unlikely biological evolution? And if you can then you have more faith then I do in my God.
@TheEagleTeeth If you think that accepting the repeated results of scientific experimentation is a matter of faith, then I have to question whether or not you actually understand what faith entails. The Theory of Evolution has undergone every test imaginable and has come out on the other side stronger than ever. Or to put it in context you might understand, (the theory of evolution)/(faith) has undergone (every experiment imaginable)/(trials) and still has not been (disproved)/(shaken).
"First, you have to believe, ok? But don't wait too long. You have to decide and commit yourself now, in the abscence of evidence, before you can really see if any of this is actually true in an objective sense. Basically, I put you on earth to see how effectively you can shut down reason abillities I gave you, and believe something that appears absolutely made up. Faul the test and you'll burn. Pass the test and I'll allow you to worship & thank me forever."
I like how the Christian god is apparently giving us more than we deserve and yet is still supposed to be just. That's a direct contradiction....grace versus justice.
@Ledwix yes, apparantly it's justice that we are punished with eternal hellfire for being created who we are, yet then this god subverts his own justice by cheating his way out of his own rules and because this was somehow hard, and because he couldn't just you know change his mind or cancel the debt we somehow owe him, no he puts it on a scapegoat and we have to worship him for it, because shifting debt to someone else is an act of forgiveness? This god only cares for his rules and itself.
So... We deserve to go to hell for eternity because of Adam's original sin? and the original sin was the eating of the forbidden fruit?... Now I was wonder, if God had not put the tree there in the first place, would Adam have eaten the fruit?... And one more question, if God is Omnisient, does that mean he knew that Adam and Eve would be tricked into eating the forbidden fruit before he even created them?...So... was it Adam that created Sin? or was it God that created Sin?... Hmmmm...
@javonne This begs the question, was god really winking at adam and eve knowing they'd eat it? of course, if he REALLY didn't want them to eat it, there would be NO TREE there. therefore, we can safely assume that god really wanted them to eat it, taste it, and love it. its like taking a bucket of ice cream to bunch of kids at fat camp, putting it in the middle of their cabin and then saying ok: now, i'm going to come back in a couple of hours, DONT eat that.
The biblical teaching is much different. We have no free will. Adam and Eve fell according to God's plan and Christ is God's way of reconciling himself to his fallen creation. Suffering is part of God's strange ways. We are all subject to God's plan, the drama of creation.
@Endnuenfyr Or, if you don't believe in nonsense, the world came about by natural means and we should live life without the fear or indoctrination of a magicians eternal damnation if we reject him. And I would burn before I kissed ass for the rest of eternity.
@feralaesthetic Eternity came about by natural means? Do you really realize what you are saying? The more you think about eternity, the more unreasonable atheism seems.
@Endnuenfyr The idea of eternity is a human made one. Time is only relevant to a being that can utilize it. We use time as a way of estimating and calculating things. It's not a tangible thing that we can manipulate. We have the concept because we, as humans, need a way to gauge our lives and meetings and appointments, etc.
@Endnuenfyr We as humans cannot fathom "eternity". Partly because your mortal and partly because it's not a physical concept. To even be able to make sense of "eternity", you would have to be able to list an unlimited amount of numbers in your head, which is impossible. I can accept the idea that it is unfathomable, but I don't need to create a deity to make sense of it either.
@Clubbingshawn We cant understand eternity, but we can certainly reason that eternity must exist. Whatever beginning you imagine, something had to be there for that beginning to start. You may consider it undeseriable doctrine that the new man shouldnt dabble with but I fail to see you can do anything about it. It's simply irrefutable evidende for realities beyond our comprehension skills. The joker in this is that ol' iron age religion speaks of eternity.
@Endnuenfyr I understand what you're saying. I don't agree with the "irrefutable evidence" part. As for the argument, "Whatever beginning you imagine, something had to be there for that beginning to start." That could lead to another paradox type argument that neither one of us could agree upon. In the end, theist have an answer, I have a question; and my question can't be answered by theists. Because in the end it's all very personal.
This is a phoney God acting like Satan. The creature has faith waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God and will be freed from the bondage of corruption ,which is freedom death into the into the glorious liberty of the children of God = heaven. Jesus in us doing good to all of us. That will save the soul. Read Romans 8, KJV, and you will find it. Lack of faith looks in the Bible looking for signs for coming Christ coming setting dates.The beast of the field does not do that.
save you from eternal death. Then you will be perfect living peaceably with all men forever with joy we can't feel in this physical body that dies. God has prepared for us a place where we will long enjoy the work of our hands.Hell is not eternal burning. God is eternal life giving good things, and hell is eternal death,and that is the absence of life,and all things for humans doing bad calling it good, and humans kill,and hate calling that good.
@kobidobidog Well, the logical problem with your statement, Humans doing bad and calling it good. Sortof like religious wars and killing people in the name of god right? What atheist builds an army to kill people because of their religion? People kill and hate in the name of god every day, and believe they will go to heaven. If their god is that.. I don't even know a word to begin to explain my contempt for the concept. If there was an omniscient god, Most Christians would burn. Acceptance or no
@feralaesthetic Satan shows himself to be an angel of light in those godless hearties religoins that are all show, and no go. The meek unassuming Christian with the heart of a child is in you.The one calling themselves an atheist is the Christian doing the good works of Christ. .Those humans that kill encouraging humans to make laws against the sexualities giving fear are mistaken thinking eternal Joy is theirs. The pure heart of the atheist sees God, and he is in you.
Well done! This is truly hilarious. I was indoctrinated into fundamentalist Christianity from birth. As soon as I was old enough to begin thinking for myself, I began questioning, and now I look back at what I was taught and just shake my head. It boggles my mind that adults are "converted" to this belief system all the time. And I know otherwise intelligent adults who have done just that. I
i see a stupid atheist. agnosticism and atheism arent mutually exclusive, if somebody has rational reasons for their beliefs then you have no ground by which to call them stupid. there are geniuses and many brilliant people who arent and werent atheists. just because somebody is an atheist doesnt make them not stupid, and you are evidence of this.
@JustTrollinAlong Whoa i have never seen a religius troll posting b4... did it ever occured to you that geniuses have stoped hoping to reason with religius idots so they faked faith in order not to be burned/shot/mocked from the likes of you? huh?
has it occurred to you that im actually an agnostic atheist and i was correcting him on his misguided worldviews? has is occurred to you that you ought to spell correctly and form coherent sentences so people can better understand what your saying? there are geniuses on both sides. just because somebody is an atheist or agnostic does not make them smart, you are a clear example of this just as the person i responded to is.
@JustTrollinAlong How are agnosticism and atheism NOT mutually exclusive? To be atheist, you believe in no supernatural being, and no religion. Agnostics are on the fence between there is a go, and there is not a god. That or they believe in a god who may or may not exist but if he did trying to comprehend said existence would be useless as he would be beyond our means to comprehend.
@feralaesthetic A deist would be someone who believes in a god, but that god has nothing to do with our universe after creating it. A noteable deist would be Thomas Jefferson. He created the Jefferson Bible that basically takes all the horrible shit out of the bible, and all the supernatural stuff. He leaves in the moral teachings and the idea that a god created everything. He still believes it's up to humans to make sense of the world we live in.
@Clubbingshawn "He created the Jefferson Bible that basically takes all the horrible shit out of the bible, and all the supernatural stuff." Never understood that one. It seems so out of touch with reality to use God's severity as an argument against theism. Most people like platonist idealist fantacy but it's irrational to apply it to reality. "Horrible shit" exists in reality and I am certain "supernatural stuff" does as well.
@Endnuenfyr I'm not arguing any point against God or otherwise. I was only clearing up what feralaesthetic originally stated. Or elaborating on his take of atheism vs. agnosticism. In the Jefferson Bible he takes out all the murder, rape, slavery and pretty much anything "bad". Instead it's just a slimmed down version of the bible with all the good things like moral and ethical teachings.
@Endnuenfyr "It seems so out of touch with reality to use God's severity as an argument against theism." It is out of touch with reality, because it would have to be real in order to be in touch with it. Theists can believe their books all they want, I really don't mind it. I, however, cannot understand how someone could listen to someone that says, "Thou shall not kill", but has condoned murder and has murdered themselves. Rationalizing it is irrational.
@Clubbingshawn "Thou shall not kill" is obviously the unlawful killing, the killing God hasnt commanded. There's a context and application to all sayings. Plus the idea of God not killing removes God from any connection to real life, which I understand you favor as an argument to deal with, but it's really not essentially theistic.
@Endnuenfyr I think the real message is that God didn't kill anybody in the OT. It was just men killing in the name of God. That is the only way I can understand God having any moral credibility. If in fact the bible is not the true word of God, but just an account of history by men who believed in Him. That is not how most Christians would view it, though. I think that is why we see all this atheistic outcry and these video's against Christians in particular.
@Clubbingshawn or the fact that religion is absolutely ridiculous/hilarious, and that the science against it/ proving our natural origins, is so overwhelming? the more we progress into the future, the further and further away from religion we will sway because sheer fact will be taught to so many; something that didn't happen even 50 years ago.i give it 100 years before the majority of the electorate is atheist.
@ScarletAssasin cont. So the question is, does religious beliefs coincide with person beliefs, or do they clash? I'm not saying ALL theists are this way. I'm just asking a legitimate qu
I never realized that Yahweh is both sadistic and masochistic.
supergsx 1 day ago
religion....
thank god none of it is true
fekinel 4 days ago
This needs more views
Hirnlego999 2 weeks ago
I found this extremely hilarious and couldn't stop laughing. If only the church was this honest we would be ok :))
Escuelavieja100 1 month ago
xDDDD Awesome xD
FRocksforever 1 month ago
Your vids are the most well thought out arguments against religion that I've seen from anyone. Always polite and rational with tremendous potential to de-convert. Most extremely excellent!
decide2think 1 month ago
hell is a nonsense because once you are dead you don't feel anything
jam63112 1 month ago
@1LonePuma Forgot the "at" so one post down from this one.
CrashPilot4 1 month ago
So to escape the higher law, without consequence I need god who crucified himself in this world as a sacrifice to himself so he can be my lawyer in heaven defending me against himself for a crime that is yet completely unclear to me. And to top it off all that is based on one book compiled by humans, written over 6000 years (apparently) with currently every trace of god or his prophets gone south. For an outsider this sounds fantastically bizarre to me. Almost like a pyramid scheme.
CrashPilot4 1 month ago
what a bad way 2 look at it!!God is good.
breendaystarz 1 month ago
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You people have it all wrong.
unFashionableTV 2 months ago in playlist NonStampCollector
I offer a much better fantasy than the Holy Babble but no 1 will believe it.
Strangerinasland 2 months ago
Similarly, when we break a law of man, we must answer for our indiscretion. Ignorance has no place in man’s court of law and is why people need a mediator when going before the magistrate or judge. We must pay the consequences of our transgression. In more serious crimes of man, some consequences require the death penalty, without escape. GOD sent His Only Begotten SON to be our redeemer from our sin of breaking GOD’s laws. Accepting His Son dying on the cross for our sins, is called salvation.
1LonePuma 2 months ago
@1LonePuma The court of law is for crimes you commit that actually is a crime. In other words you hurt, thieved or otherwise has caused harm to another person. Not someone in your family 6000 years ago. Also I would be quite uncomfortable if the judge then calls upon his only son and nails him to a cross in the court room so I do not get punished at all. Sounds to me that judge needs serious psychiatric help. Hopefully you will understand that some people cannot see this weird practice as a good
CrashPilot4 1 month ago in playlist NonStampCollector entire catalogue - in reverse order
@CrashPilot4: I think you're missing the point, but God has his laws and if you sin against them you must pay the consequences unless you have an advocate. A way for your sins to be forgiven. That is what Jesus did for humanity, he died for your sins, if you accept this free gift. It's obvious God has a higher law with eternal consequences that cannot be paid unless you have the Lord Jesus Christ, that's the good news. The Gospel. Nevertheless, the choice is yours to deny or accept.
1LonePuma 1 month ago
@1LonePuma The choice is yours to realise that your god is a fiction.
MrAgentGreeny 1 month ago
@MrAgentGreeny: I suppose you'll find out soon enough, won't you?!
However, it might be a bit too late!!
1LonePuma 1 month ago
@1LonePuma Maybe I've just reached the age of reason a lot quicker than you have.
MrAgentGreeny 1 month ago
@MrAgentGreeny: It's doubtful, but you have surpassed all levels of stupidity, as all can see!
1LonePuma 1 month ago
@1LonePuma Because I don't have an imaginary friend, I've surpassed all levels of stupidity?
MrAgentGreeny 1 month ago
The god of the bible they want us to follow is a Narcissist, all this love hate, punish, reward is what narcissist's do, this is mental enslavement and abuse..
karlbuttler 2 months ago 12
@karlbuttler Yeah, I doubt even Christians will like him once they get to know him.
nooobsaibot 1 week ago
THANK YOU YAHWEH! Theos!
Andysingtoyou 2 months ago
This is as good as you can get. Send it to all your religious friends and tell them watching it has troubled you, and you need their help. Then TRY TO HOLD BACK YOUR LAUGHTER.
jecker91946 3 months ago 23
@jecker91946 thank you very much
xCroB93x 1 month ago
Non-stamp collector, great video! I have viewed about seven of your videos and love them all. They each make a valid point while remaining fresh and entertaining.
caseyuscasey 3 months ago
you and your friends start crying all at the same time out of pure happiness and you all see the most beautiful horse ever at the same time. was it likely that would happen to you? replace jesus with horse and horse convention with jesus camp. you are unbelievable moronic. you called me a shallow thinker. that sounds like an insult to me. therefore your reasoning sucks. according to you at least.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong Frankly, if the horse camp happened like Jesus camp, all rational people would say that I must have been moved by the efforts of the horse breeders. They would not say horses are actually supernatural.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong You've just demonstrated shallow thinking, and proved my point. Your attention span failed to allow you to remember the original word you, yourself, posted. "unexplainable" Your further shallow thinking made a half-arsed attempt at making a metaphor of horse shows. Which also failed to be unexplainable. Are you trying to demonstrate why you're wrong. That's very meta of you, since troll is in your own name. I applaud that.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@Enginmaster and you used shallow thinking as an insult, therefore your reasoning sucks according to you, you could have left it out since it was irrelevant and had no bearing on anything nor did in contribute to the convo, therefore it was an insult. so you are stupid according to you. i guarantee im a deeper thinker than you considering i have come up with original logical proofs against the existence of a god and im only 19.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong Shallow thinking isn't an insult. It's just the dictionary definition of what I'm witnessing here. I'm seeing you projecting whatever I say of your argument on my arguments without any actual logical process or links. I'm seeing you not thinking about the definition of any of the words you say. I'm seeing you not process main concepts successfully. It's no insult to call that shallow thinking, any more than it would be insulting of me to say Dr Seuss used rhyming.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@Enginmaster i do project it on your arguments because you're being a hypocrite. name 5 words i have used incorrectly and tell me how that demonstrates shallow thinking. you say i havent processes concepts sucessfully which shows shallow thinking. you only say that because you think you are right.
you cant successfully process the concept of a world where a square circle is a person that is infinite and eternal and divides by zero, you can process impossible concepts, therefore you are shallow.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong Except you do it shallowly, without any actual basis. I actually use points of evidence, like your own words. You use bare assertion. A very telling logical fallacy. It's ok, you're a teenager still. But don't think that your age makes that thinking any less shallow. "you cant successfully process the concept of a world where a square circle is a person that is infinite and eternal and divides by zero" Nothing to process. Those are non-concepts.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@Enginmaster no they are concepts. i just came up with a square circle. its a circle thats square. its a concept, but one cant possible process it. therefore your assertion that not processing concepts successfully makes one shallow in thought is disproven. oh i use bald assertion? really? i used basic psychology, probability, induction, logically valid and sound premises and conclusions, you use what? name the evidence you have provided. "go ask a psychologist" "it could have been x"
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong They are self-contradictory terms. It's not deep to take words that could agree grammatically, but make no semantic sense, such as a green smell, and state that you understand them. It's childish. You didn't use psychology. I did. Then you ignored it. Try again. I've taken a semester of psychology here at the University. You've taken up trolling on youtube. Just sayin.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@Enginmaster you said "they were at jesus camp, therefore brainwashing was highly likely the cause."
i refuted this 7 times if not more.
"they were disinterested, they were brought up with reason. they werent brought up religious. they were in very unreligious circumstances when it happened. they all felt it at the same exact time which itself is unlikely."
explain how it is likely given the above.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong You have a very inaccurate definition of "refute" if you think simply bare asserting "nuh uh, they didn't get brainwashed there, they were skeptical" was a refutation. You would not do well in a science lab if that was refutation to you. "explain how it is likely given the above"
Really, you don't understand? Your parents express how important Jesus is to you, you immerse your teen self in an environment of guilting you and spouting Jesus at you. That's brainwashing.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@Enginmaster oh? so parents deciding to become religious after years of telling their kids its bullshit since they were little and then sending them off to camp the next week is brainwashing? really? wow i didnt realize it was that easy. i can make millions now. thanks.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong Yeah. Sending kids to religious camp is brainwashing. It's their job to make brainwashing easy. In the old days, if you wanted your kid to conform to your belief system, you had to do all the forcing to go to confessionals and church yourself. Now they do it for a small one time payment at the beginning of the summer. Millions? Please. Jesus camps make way more than that. Billions is more like it.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
also, my rudeness is due to your rude assumptions which are insulting to my intelligence, the intelligence of my friends, our integrity, and to the conversation. thats why i called you names. but way to be self delusional and think it wasnt warranted at all. you should try to be more objective.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong Rudeness is just a sign of poor reasoning skills, dude. I'm taking it as a cry for help, but ignoring it, because I don't think you need help.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@Enginmaster well your assumptions were quite rude, which means you must have poor reasoning skills according to you. which means you arent really in a position to be telling me what is rude and what isnt and cant really call me hateful. it also somewhat discredits you and shows why you're having a hard time grasping this concept im trying to convey.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong You have a strange definition of rude. If politely pointing out that personal emotional conviction is not convincing evidence, and pointing out further that people do not have a right to silence us from saying exactly how silly a belief is is rude to you, I fear we are not using the same language. If I have evidence you hate things, it's right to say you have hatred. If that hatred is presented rudely, it's my duty to point that out. You don't have a well developed concept.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@Enginmaster now you are being dishonest which is also pretty rude. you didnt just "point out that its not convincing" you made assumptions and statements the implications of which were insulting to me and my friends in more than one way. you havent refuted my argument to present, and you have only made attempts to discredit their experience by throwing out uninformed ideas based on faulty assumptions because you dont even know all the details and i refute your assertions which details.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong I'm not being dishonest. I did just point out that it's not convincing. You're saying I made assumptions, but not elaborating. I think you're lying. Prove me wrong, by actually stating the assumptions you say are assumptions. If you feel insulted by something that's not insulting, me pointing out that their experience wasn't a real thing, that's on you and them, not me. Islam feels insulted if you call a teddy bear Mohammed. That doesn't make it actually insulting.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@Enginmaster the later part of your comment is akin to me saying "you may feel insulted when i call your mom a whore, but that doesnt make it actually insulting" when you make fun of something important to somebody, thats generally considered insulting. you poor reasoning is showing sir.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong Actually no. Because naming a teddy bear Mohammed, which happened by a Muslim kid in a classroom in Sudan, is completely innocuous. The kid was not making fun of his own religion, but the elders still called it a horrible and insulting thing, and tried to get a teacher supervising him to be stoned. It's absolute crap. If you get insulted easily like that, you bear the responsibility of the insults, not I. I didn't intend insult. It wasn't, therefore, an insult.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@Enginmaster you didnt say naming a teddy bear mohammed, you said calling a teddy bear mohammed, i misinterpreted the meaning. the later part of your comment is still retarded, even more so then my misinterpreted version of the teddy bear thing.
i say "lol what a fucking nigger" when a friend does something, black guy hears it. i didnt intend to insult him. therefore it wasnt and insult? you are retarded if you actually think that. its okay to be wrong.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong Naming and calling are exactly the same thing. If you took Spanish, you'd know that. Because "me llamo" literally just means "I call myself". i.e. "I am named" If a term has been used historically always to hurt, then yes, it's offensive. Teddy bear Mohammed and letting your friends know they didn't have a real experience are not historically hurtful. It's not insulting. You're not doing too well in this debate when it comes to logic. I hope you intend to improve.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@Enginmaster
YOU SAID "if i dont intend insult, then it isnt insulting."
I SAID "i call my friend a nigger, a black guy hears me and gets insulted. but it wasnt insulting because i didnt intend to insult him"
YOU JUST SAID "if a term is bad historically, then its offensive"
and then continued with your teddy bear thing which i already said was a misunderstanding IN THE SAME COMMENT YOU'RE RESPONDING TO.
this means you retract your statement at the top of this comment.
i'd say im not losing.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong I said I didn't intend to insult, yes, and then it isn't insulting. If you know the n-word (btw, quite rude of you to post it unbleeped) then you know its history. There's nobody in the world right now that doesn't know it's historical hurtfulness that will ever use it. It will always be insulting by my standard. You'd say you're not losing, but you also said "it's unexplainable" even though I've given like 2 explanations already. You're wrong, historically speaking.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@Enginmaster right so i said nigger without intending to insult, therefore it isnt insulting, thats your argument. you then say that the word is insulting no matter what.
contradiction=you losing. not me.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong You knew that it's an insulting word, which is why you used it. You therefore did not intend for it to be non-insulting. I, on the other hand, never regarded, nor ever heard of it being insulting to disagree with someone on what they saw and what the cause of the sighting is. Therefore I am not insulting. You, on the other hand, cannot seem to go 2 posts without hurling 2 or 3 insults at me at a time. You're very rude. Who raised you?
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@Enginmaster i did not intend to insult black guy, therefore your argument is invalid. again you show dishonesty.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong You knowingly said an insulting word. That is by definition insulting.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@Enginmaster it doesnt matter what the definition of insulting is because i didnt intend it to be insulting. therefore it isnt. according to you. you havent refuted it and you are so dishonest that you are trying to weasel your way out of accepting that you were wrong.
1. one says something and doesnt intend it as insult.
2. therefore it isnt insulting.
3. you say nigger is insulting no matter what.
4. therefore you contradicted yourself.
1 and 2 came from you.
JustTrollinAlong 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong You're not honest if you think saying something you know to be an insult is not meant to be insulting. I'm not saying what I said is no insult just because "I say" it is not an insult. I'm saying it's not an insult because I actually DON'T think of it as an insult. Whereas your n-word thing was clearly known to you as an insult first. Please take a college course on logic and debate.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong There is one exception to your very poor example of the n-word of course. If a 6 year old reads a line or two of Mark Twain's story, they're not insulting Jim. It's not until they learn the word that it's an insult.
Enginmaster 3 months ago
i'm a christian who really enjoys these videos, i find that it helps me deconstruct or reaffirm my beliefs and i just think they're entertaining. Maybe that's cause i'm not a fundamentalist or really have much in common with Evangelical traditional belief anymore. However it seems like he is more concerned with Protestant Evangelical common beliefs. i would be interested in his views on theological writings of early church fathers in the Orthodox christian tradition.
chrisutley812 3 months ago
That very much sounds like how a conversation with god might go.
xwarmangle 3 months ago
MAN....I DONT KNOW WTF ANYMORE. FUCK IT NOLOL
TheboiwhocouldfLY 3 months ago
Even your first video is soooo ... RIGHT. And you even EVOLVE on your ne videos. This is so great and I wish, more people would see this.
HerrSerker 3 months ago
Dude... This is like Propoganda it's so BIAS...
andoson100 3 months ago
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ComedyIsBack 3 months ago
We would all follow A&E, God forgives and restores those that dont wanna remain in evil. Those that do, create their own hell, via their hostility towards God. Hell is your own destructive state of being and the place called hell is to keep ur destructiveness away from the righteous.
strengthinweakness1 4 months ago
We would all follow A&E, God forgives and restores those that dont wanna remain in evil. Those that do, create their own hell, via their hostility towards God. Hell is your own destructive state of being and the place called hell is to keep ur destructiveness away from the righteous.
strengthinweakness1 4 months ago
Is it possible for any man to fulfill God's HOLY criteria? No? Why not if he wants it fulfilled? If as a designer I want a light bulb to illuminate a room, I design it so. If I want a cup to hold water, I do not purposely put a hole in it and then curse it for draining water.
Reggie1971 4 months ago
@Reggie1971 "" put a hole in it and then curse it""
He allows you to rebel and then allows u to repent. So stop ur whining and admit that ur choice to rebel was stupid and ask Him ot change u and take control of u.
strengthinweakness1 4 months ago
@strengthinweakness1 No offense dude, but your beliefs are fucking boring!
SnafuFrank 4 months ago
@SnafuFrank Then what are u doing here? Looking for entertainment value? This is a religious video and religious comments. Until uve experienced God , He is boring bc ur sin nature is repulsed by God and hates God. You cant help it, if u wont repent and ask for God to change u.
strengthinweakness1 4 months ago
@strengthinweakness1 Yeah, i'll repent if he reveals himself to me right now. Take care!
SnafuFrank 4 months ago
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@strengthinweakness1 Yeah, i'll repent if he reveals himself to me right now. Have a good day sir.
SnafuFrank 4 months ago
@strengthinweakness1 God's choice was to make everyone predisposed to sin. In other words, he intended for you to sin. Incredibly, it was his will that you did not do his "will". Adam and Eve we are told did not know right from wrong until they ate of the tree, so how did they know that doing such a thing beforehand was wrong? This "god" (fictional...hopefully) set things up so that they could fail. "Free will" is a farce. Tell me why it is so important if it results in billions pershing?
Reggie1971 3 months ago
@Reggie1971 Also with respect to free will, I would again allude to Romans 9. It is quite clear in stating that "god" makes certain people unto destruction. He hardens their hearts. In other words, it is his will that they perish. The earth is one big drama to him cast with billions of villains. Except they don't get an Academy award for their performance. They get eternal fire as their reward for entertaining "god".
Reggie1971 3 months ago
@Reggie1971 Well, as I understand, God himself is responsible for the "villains" which are on earth, including homosexuals and atheits. And now HE destroys them all, like an agry kid whose tinker-toy won't work out the way it should? This is soo ridiculous and pathetic, I pity you.
HerrSerker 3 months ago
"" no one as depraved as the biblical character Yahweh ""
Yep this is to be expected. Man denies his sin and blames another as God seeks to put a hinderance on the spread of sin and its destructive force. Yes God kills everyone for the wages of sin is death. Its actually amazing that God puts up with out sin for so long and actually saves and reforms some and take them to heaven with him.
You are all grossly arrogant and horrific.
j919or 4 months ago
@j919or Why would God make us predisposed to sin? He wants free will? Are we really able to live a life in accordance with God's wishes. It's amazing that only one man among tens of billions has managed to pull it off if that's so.
Reggie1971 4 months ago
@Reggie1971 Sin is rejection of God and independence. Hell is separation from God. Reconnect to God. He doesnt want u to try to be perfect but to trust Him to make u perfect. Its not about laws it about entrusting ones life to God. The laws just reveal our independence and should compel us to complete depedence. Its not believing stuff but entrusting ones self to God.
strengthinweakness1 4 months ago
Ahahahah XD "But they DID! ... so... everybody goes to hell..." XDDD
Ukoctopus 4 months ago
Lol. Orginal sin is so funny. When people believe this stuff.... it makes scientology seem somewhat reasonable
grnmjolnir 4 months ago
Its never gods fault but since you blame him you reveal ur sin. If you were willing to do his will then ud want to know and u would know. When I was done with my own will and begged God to save me from mew at the controls, there was no bible and nobody but God came over me with complete power and peace and contentment and it was there that I fell in love with him.Then he guided me to read the bible and I totally understood it.
j919or 4 months ago
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@j919or So you agree that homosexuals should be put to death? After all, that's what the bible says.
KingAdonisDNA 4 months ago
Its never gods fault but since you blame him you reveal ur sin. If you were willing to do his will then ud want to know and u would know. When I was done with my own will and begged God to save me from mew at the controls, there was no bible and nobody but God came over me with complete power and peace and contentment and it was there that I fell in love with him. Then he guided me to read the bible and I totally understood it.
j919or 4 months ago
God is Andre the giant!
Grafight23 4 months ago
They chose to reject God in favor of the creation for they believed that the creation was better than God. All people have tasted evil and can decide if they wanna stayu in it. They also saw the damage that it did to God in Jesus and to the rest of creation. They can harden their hearts or let God fix the problem and cause us to fall in love with in, w/o which eternity is misery. Perfect love for a perfect being forever = pure bliss. All else forever = pure misery
j919or 4 months ago
You fools mock God to lessen the guilt and awareness of evil. Evil is deliberate disconnection to God while faith in deliberate reconnection to GOd. Disconnection is death and reconnection is life. Just like plugging in a lamp lights it up while unplugging it causes darkness. Its so simple but as Jesus said, Evildoers wont come to the light for fear their deeds be exposed.
j919or 4 months ago
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"" form their conclusion (i.e., "God exists)""
Nah. You are obvioiusly just another young college lemming. You paid alot ot get into school and now u had better agree in order to get a good grade and fit into the establishment. Rather there is evidence that Jesus was God
1. gospels are best ancient history
2. miracles
3. fulfilled prophecy
4, changed lives thru the experience of Gods power in millions
j919or 4 months ago
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"" form their conclusion (i.e., "God exists)""
Nah. You are obvioiusly just another young college lemming. You paid alot ot get into school and now u had better agree in order to get a good grade and fit into the establishment. Rather there is evidence that Jesus was God
1. gospels are best ancient history
2. miracles
3. fulfilled prophecy
4, changed lives thru the experience of Gods power in millions
j919or 4 months ago
"" form their conclusion (i.e., "God exists)""
Nah. You are obvioiusly just another young college lemming. You paid alot ot get into school and now u had better agree in order to get a good grade and fit into the establishment. Rather there is evidence that Jesus was God
1. gospels are best ancient history
2. miracles
3. fulfilled prophecy
4, changed lives thru the experience of Gods power in millions.
j919or 4 months ago
1. The overwhelming complexity of the universe is plenty of evidence
2. Yall dont wanna believe cuz u dont want God to take control of ur lives
3. The church of satan is all about self and yall are all about self and self rule
4. God does need anything including our worship
5. Worshipping God unites us closer to him and we enjoy him more and more
6. WOrship is for US!!!!
7. Yall are so missing out...yall are the living dead.
j919or 4 months ago
@j919or Things being complex evidence is not evidence of God. If things appear complex, the convenient thing to do is to make the assumption that there is a God that just makes it happen. However, the logical thing to do is to try to investigate how science really works and what drives it, by using evidence to form opinions or conclusions. It is sad that so many people will form their conclusion (i.e., "God exists) and then try to find evidence to support it, rather than the other way around.
jasonjon88 4 months ago
@jasonjon88 "" If things appear complex""
1. Things ARE complex. Any evidence that doesnt fit ur assumptions is now dismissed as illusion. Dawkins even admitted that the complexity of the universe is overwhelming.
2.The only conclusion to such complexity is one that with greater complexity made it all. Things dont randomly produce complexity.
3.science works by repeatable obvservable processis, not historical reconstruction. YOU are a complete fool reagrdless that you have plenty of company
j919or 4 months ago
« The only conclusion to such complexity is one that with greater complexity made it all. »
Which leads to infinite regression, as that superior complexity would have had to have a more complex creator still, and so on.
But in stead what we find in nature is that complex behaviors result from simple systems. A system described by a few simple behavioral properties can result in behavior so complex that it effectively becomes unpredictable.
MrGralgrathor 4 months ago
@MrGralgrathor There are no simple systems. Complex behaviors are unpredictable?Give examples. You seem totally confused.
j919or 4 months ago
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« There are no simple systems »
Yes, there are. Look up the history of chaos theory, see how early measurements of the chaotic behaviour of non-linear dynamic systems were based on eminently simple convective models. They basically built test rigs with just enough room for one convective cycle, so that only one cycle could form, so that the behaviour of the system closely followed the models for convection.
XGralgrathor 4 months ago
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« Complex behaviors are unpredictable?Give examples »
Weather.
XGralgrathor 4 months ago
@MrGralgrathor "" leads to infinite regression""
Nah. I left out that the creator of this universe must be infinite to produce all of this from nothing. And if infinite in power and complexity then also infinite in time for God/eternal. Behaviors nevered entered this discussion for behaviors are varied and are the result of many forces acting on the system.
j919or 4 months ago
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« I left out that the creator of this universe must be infinite »
That's just special pleading. I can with equal ease and more parsimony assert that natural explanation X is infinite.
We both need evidence to back up the claim that X exists and is eternal - but you are vastly outclassed on the parsimony front.
XGralgrathor 4 months ago
1. The overwhelming complexity of the universe is plenty of evidence
2. Yall dont wanna believe cuz u dont want God to take control of ur lives
3. The church of satan is all about self and yall are all about self and self rule
4. God does need anything including our worship
5. Worshipping God unites us closer to him and we enjoy him more and more
6. WOrship is for US!!!!
7. Yall are so missing out...yall are the living dead.
j919or 4 months ago
@j919or When you say shit like that, that's how we know you didn't watch the video.
KingAdonisDNA 4 months ago
@NonStampCollector Aha, I've watched your videos for a long time, but I didn't get it until now... XD (Not collecting stamps)
ThinkOneMoreTime 4 months ago
seriously i love every one of your videos. i wish you would make one that illustrates the belief issue.. maybe a father lovingly and then angrily trying to get his son to believe in santa claus.
the father and son motif works really well, what with it being the biblical model and all..
sonsofdon 4 months ago
liopol2 yes teapot! im addicted too, and i need more..
i lmfao every time i think of the freewill vids, or think to myself "i'm going to have to carry out a massive slaughter"..
btw i love that point about deciding to believe - i talk about that issue a lot. it is impossible to make yourself believe something. at best you can protect a preordained conclusion, chosen for unrelated reasons, by stopping yourself from thinking contrary thoughts. but the brain keeps a log..
seriously i love
sonsofdon 4 months ago
i just watched the edward current vid. i hate to be disagreeable but it did nothing for me.
you either are more humble than you should be OR you have no idea how brilliant your vids are.
sonsofdon 4 months ago
im not sure if these videos are meant to be taking the piss or not haha
oldskoolx1 5 months ago
I'm addicted to your videos NonStampCollector, praise be to the great teapot !
liopol2 5 months ago
@lleosupercluster wow you win... no actually not
YourSkyliner 5 months ago
just do what ever the hell you want and when you die and your the one in front of god, dont panic, you can totally blag your way in. god is a dipshit.
ZLi0n 5 months ago
@FuckYourGod8866 I know right so for 90 years people go and get bored to tears 3 or 4 times a week so when they die they can experience the same thing and be bored 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Sounds fun LOL
robtay1963 5 months ago
So many years later, this video still gives me the lulz
eat666shit 5 months ago
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"THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS NOT IN ANY SENSE FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION." (Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: Written during the Administration of George Washington and signed into law by John Adams.)
MagicTellaVision 5 months ago
...and posting rows of bible quotes doesn't prove anything. I can quote The Lord of the Rings and Monty Python all day - but their just fiction... just like the bible.
Oh wait, tolkein and John Cleese don't call for the torture and murder that the bible does. Just ignore that miserable piece of crap. You'll be happier and more honest.
oakwise 5 months ago
A great video pointing out that christianity - and its sister cults - are a PURE NONSENSE! Keep it up.
What the world really needs is reality, not cannibalistic bullshit.
SMILE. THERE IS NO HELL.
oakwise 5 months ago
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
MysticalVentus 5 months ago
god does exist hes more real than you will ever b,
damaude2010 5 months ago
This video is a mockery of god u try to make god look dumb, u r a hater of god
damaude2010 5 months ago
@damaude2010 He is making fun of religion not god; you can’t hate something that does not exist...
SuperWhiskyTango 5 months ago
@damaude2010 You ever think about, if it did exist, what eternity in heaven would really be like?
Forever, and ever, and ever, and ever, and ever, and ever . . .
Psalm 113 1Praise ye the LORD. Praise, O ye servants of the LORD, praise the name of the LORD. 2Blessed be the name of the LORD from this time forth and for evermore. 3From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the LORD's name is to be praised.
1 Thessalonians 5:17: 17Pray without ceasing
PawnBACM 5 months ago
@damaude2010 No, he is highlighting to contrasictions of religion/bible.
Poodleinacan 5 months ago
Evidence...You want evidence for God's hand in creation. Tonight go outside and look at the sky. Do you see the stars? Or the rising and setting of the sun isn't it beautiful? Then ask yourself. Can all this come from randomness? Or beauty from chaos? Are you saying laughter comes from the way chemicals react in my brain? Or that tears of my eyes are triggered not by a soul or a spirit? That the essence of thought is billions of brain cells randomly joining together for one purpose?
TheEagleTeeth 5 months ago
@TheEagleTeeth the stars debunk the bible's claims. Look at the sky? Seriously? You assert it's all created, without evidence? Let's assume it is created, which you do, how can you tell by looking at the sky which god did it? Yes, it could've been random. Yes, beauty can come from chaos. Yes, laughter is a product of a brain doing what brains do. When the brain is damaged it can screw up laughing, even thinking. No evidence for souls and spirits. Tears come from souls? Are you an idiot?
viridismonasteriense 5 months ago
@viridismonasteriense You really beleive that. That one explosion can create everything? It takes more faith to beleive in evolution than to beleive in any other religion on the face of this Earth. That man came from apes. Are you kidding me? What evidence do you have for that none. That cells came from nothing? Biogenesis was disproven hundreds of years ago. Go look it up. You guys think you are so smart with your lowsy evidence when the same evidence condemns you
TheEagleTeeth 5 months ago
@TheEagleTeeth Man did not come from apes. An explosion didn't create everything. It doesn't take faith to understand evolution. Abiogenesis has not been debunked hundreds of years ago, because back then people had no idea what it was.
Atheism has nothing to do with any of these things and debunking any of it, whether it be the big bang or evolution, doesn't make theism look any better. You're trying to distract from the fact that theism has nothing. No evidence. You are ignorant.
viridismonasteriense 5 months ago
@TheEagleTeeth Man didn't evolve from apes, we evolved from a common ancestor that we share with the great apes we see today. We're simply cousins. This ancestor is called Kenyapithicus. Look it up :). If you understood evolution, you'd not only see that its an interesting, very cool subject, but you don't even need to have faith for it. Why? Evidence, evidence, evidence.
inconsp1cuous1515 5 months ago
@TheEagleTeeth
"Are you saying laughter comes from the way chemicals react in my brain? Or that tears of my eyes are triggered not by a soul or a spirit?"
Yes.
Tell me, why can psychoactive drugs effect our mood, when it es no chemical reaction?
Ulixes83 5 months ago in playlist NonStampCollector
@Ulixes83 Yes that is true the brain is still God's creation. I knew I made a mistake when I added that part in. Bot what I was trying to get across was can you really beleive that laughter was a mistake, a random act of molecules, of a very unlikely biological evolution? And if you can then you have more faith then I do in my God.
TheEagleTeeth 5 months ago
@TheEagleTeeth If you think that accepting the repeated results of scientific experimentation is a matter of faith, then I have to question whether or not you actually understand what faith entails. The Theory of Evolution has undergone every test imaginable and has come out on the other side stronger than ever. Or to put it in context you might understand, (the theory of evolution)/(faith) has undergone (every experiment imaginable)/(trials) and still has not been (disproved)/(shaken).
FrostdPoptart 5 months ago
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah ha ah aha ha ha ha ha ha hahh!!!!!!
ifeness24 6 months ago 13
@ifeness24 Wow what an amazingly clever comment.
LorrdFfuzyLogik 4 months ago
"First, you have to believe, ok? But don't wait too long. You have to decide and commit yourself now, in the abscence of evidence, before you can really see if any of this is actually true in an objective sense. Basically, I put you on earth to see how effectively you can shut down reason abillities I gave you, and believe something that appears absolutely made up. Faul the test and you'll burn. Pass the test and I'll allow you to worship & thank me forever."
// "Yes, See How Much I Love You!"
aboyborninjune 6 months ago 20
I like how the Christian god is apparently giving us more than we deserve and yet is still supposed to be just. That's a direct contradiction....grace versus justice.
Ledwix 6 months ago
@Ledwix yes, apparantly it's justice that we are punished with eternal hellfire for being created who we are, yet then this god subverts his own justice by cheating his way out of his own rules and because this was somehow hard, and because he couldn't just you know change his mind or cancel the debt we somehow owe him, no he puts it on a scapegoat and we have to worship him for it, because shifting debt to someone else is an act of forgiveness? This god only cares for his rules and itself.
viridismonasteriense 5 months ago
I actually thought this was better than Edward's, so don't sweat it.
Even if you had only spent 5 minutes on your video when another came out, it is no reason to finish it.
McKosto 6 months ago
very funny.
I wonder if that is how God talk to Pat Robertson and some Republican.
JerezJulio 6 months ago
So... We deserve to go to hell for eternity because of Adam's original sin? and the original sin was the eating of the forbidden fruit?... Now I was wonder, if God had not put the tree there in the first place, would Adam have eaten the fruit?... And one more question, if God is Omnisient, does that mean he knew that Adam and Eve would be tricked into eating the forbidden fruit before he even created them?...So... was it Adam that created Sin? or was it God that created Sin?... Hmmmm...
javonne 7 months ago in playlist NonStampCollector entire catalogue - in reverse order
@javonne This begs the question, was god really winking at adam and eve knowing they'd eat it? of course, if he REALLY didn't want them to eat it, there would be NO TREE there. therefore, we can safely assume that god really wanted them to eat it, taste it, and love it. its like taking a bucket of ice cream to bunch of kids at fat camp, putting it in the middle of their cabin and then saying ok: now, i'm going to come back in a couple of hours, DONT eat that.
shitthrowingmonkey1 5 months ago
Hell sounds a lot better place -you don't have to kiss anybody's arse
Kissimirri22 7 months ago
The biblical teaching is much different. We have no free will. Adam and Eve fell according to God's plan and Christ is God's way of reconciling himself to his fallen creation. Suffering is part of God's strange ways. We are all subject to God's plan, the drama of creation.
Endnuenfyr 7 months ago
@Endnuenfyr Or, if you don't believe in nonsense, the world came about by natural means and we should live life without the fear or indoctrination of a magicians eternal damnation if we reject him. And I would burn before I kissed ass for the rest of eternity.
feralaesthetic 6 months ago
@feralaesthetic Eternity came about by natural means? Do you really realize what you are saying? The more you think about eternity, the more unreasonable atheism seems.
Endnuenfyr 6 months ago
@Endnuenfyr The idea of eternity is a human made one. Time is only relevant to a being that can utilize it. We use time as a way of estimating and calculating things. It's not a tangible thing that we can manipulate. We have the concept because we, as humans, need a way to gauge our lives and meetings and appointments, etc.
Clubbingshawn 6 months ago
@Clubbingshawn Sorry but that doesnt talk you out of a question reason cant answer. Eternity is evidence of causes far beyond human reasoning.
Endnuenfyr 6 months ago
@Endnuenfyr We as humans cannot fathom "eternity". Partly because your mortal and partly because it's not a physical concept. To even be able to make sense of "eternity", you would have to be able to list an unlimited amount of numbers in your head, which is impossible. I can accept the idea that it is unfathomable, but I don't need to create a deity to make sense of it either.
Clubbingshawn 6 months ago
@Clubbingshawn We cant understand eternity, but we can certainly reason that eternity must exist. Whatever beginning you imagine, something had to be there for that beginning to start. You may consider it undeseriable doctrine that the new man shouldnt dabble with but I fail to see you can do anything about it. It's simply irrefutable evidende for realities beyond our comprehension skills. The joker in this is that ol' iron age religion speaks of eternity.
Endnuenfyr 6 months ago
@Endnuenfyr I understand what you're saying. I don't agree with the "irrefutable evidence" part. As for the argument, "Whatever beginning you imagine, something had to be there for that beginning to start." That could lead to another paradox type argument that neither one of us could agree upon. In the end, theist have an answer, I have a question; and my question can't be answered by theists. Because in the end it's all very personal.
Clubbingshawn 6 months ago
This is a phoney God acting like Satan. The creature has faith waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God and will be freed from the bondage of corruption ,which is freedom death into the into the glorious liberty of the children of God = heaven. Jesus in us doing good to all of us. That will save the soul. Read Romans 8, KJV, and you will find it. Lack of faith looks in the Bible looking for signs for coming Christ coming setting dates.The beast of the field does not do that.
kobidobidog 7 months ago
save you from eternal death. Then you will be perfect living peaceably with all men forever with joy we can't feel in this physical body that dies. God has prepared for us a place where we will long enjoy the work of our hands.Hell is not eternal burning. God is eternal life giving good things, and hell is eternal death,and that is the absence of life,and all things for humans doing bad calling it good, and humans kill,and hate calling that good.
kobidobidog 7 months ago
@kobidobidog Well, the logical problem with your statement, Humans doing bad and calling it good. Sortof like religious wars and killing people in the name of god right? What atheist builds an army to kill people because of their religion? People kill and hate in the name of god every day, and believe they will go to heaven. If their god is that.. I don't even know a word to begin to explain my contempt for the concept. If there was an omniscient god, Most Christians would burn. Acceptance or no
feralaesthetic 6 months ago
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@feralaesthetic Satan shows himself to be an angel of light in those godless hearties religoins that are all show, and no go. The meek unassuming Christian with the heart of a child is in you.The one calling themselves an atheist is the Christian doing the good works of Christ. .Those humans that kill encouraging humans to make laws against the sexualities giving fear are mistaken thinking eternal Joy is theirs. The pure heart of the atheist sees God, and he is in you.
kobidobidog 6 months ago
Well done! This is truly hilarious. I was indoctrinated into fundamentalist Christianity from birth. As soon as I was old enough to begin thinking for myself, I began questioning, and now I look back at what I was taught and just shake my head. It boggles my mind that adults are "converted" to this belief system all the time. And I know otherwise intelligent adults who have done just that. I
mimmar3891 7 months ago
Makes sense to me. Yaweh seems to have similar logic as the candy sale episode of Beavis & Butthead.
mistereveready 7 months ago
it exasperates me how any insane person could even not see the bs of religion lol, let alone some intelligent ones. ;)
cruiseylee 7 months ago
LMFAO!! Bunch of stupid ass theists, deists and agnostics!!
MotoAtheist 7 months ago
@MotoAtheist ...and thats why im an atheist
DragonsREpic 7 months ago
@MotoAtheist
i see a stupid atheist. agnosticism and atheism arent mutually exclusive, if somebody has rational reasons for their beliefs then you have no ground by which to call them stupid. there are geniuses and many brilliant people who arent and werent atheists. just because somebody is an atheist doesnt make them not stupid, and you are evidence of this.
JustTrollinAlong 7 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong Whoa i have never seen a religius troll posting b4... did it ever occured to you that geniuses have stoped hoping to reason with religius idots so they faked faith in order not to be burned/shot/mocked from the likes of you? huh?
ScarletAssasin 7 months ago
@ScarletAssasin
has it occurred to you that im actually an agnostic atheist and i was correcting him on his misguided worldviews? has is occurred to you that you ought to spell correctly and form coherent sentences so people can better understand what your saying? there are geniuses on both sides. just because somebody is an atheist or agnostic does not make them smart, you are a clear example of this just as the person i responded to is.
JustTrollinAlong 7 months ago
@JustTrollinAlong How are agnosticism and atheism NOT mutually exclusive? To be atheist, you believe in no supernatural being, and no religion. Agnostics are on the fence between there is a go, and there is not a god. That or they believe in a god who may or may not exist but if he did trying to comprehend said existence would be useless as he would be beyond our means to comprehend.
feralaesthetic 6 months ago
@feralaesthetic A deist would be someone who believes in a god, but that god has nothing to do with our universe after creating it. A noteable deist would be Thomas Jefferson. He created the Jefferson Bible that basically takes all the horrible shit out of the bible, and all the supernatural stuff. He leaves in the moral teachings and the idea that a god created everything. He still believes it's up to humans to make sense of the world we live in.
Clubbingshawn 6 months ago
@Clubbingshawn "He created the Jefferson Bible that basically takes all the horrible shit out of the bible, and all the supernatural stuff." Never understood that one. It seems so out of touch with reality to use God's severity as an argument against theism. Most people like platonist idealist fantacy but it's irrational to apply it to reality. "Horrible shit" exists in reality and I am certain "supernatural stuff" does as well.
Endnuenfyr 6 months ago
@Endnuenfyr I'm not arguing any point against God or otherwise. I was only clearing up what feralaesthetic originally stated. Or elaborating on his take of atheism vs. agnosticism. In the Jefferson Bible he takes out all the murder, rape, slavery and pretty much anything "bad". Instead it's just a slimmed down version of the bible with all the good things like moral and ethical teachings.
Clubbingshawn 6 months ago
@Endnuenfyr "It seems so out of touch with reality to use God's severity as an argument against theism." It is out of touch with reality, because it would have to be real in order to be in touch with it. Theists can believe their books all they want, I really don't mind it. I, however, cannot understand how someone could listen to someone that says, "Thou shall not kill", but has condoned murder and has murdered themselves. Rationalizing it is irrational.
Clubbingshawn 6 months ago
@Clubbingshawn "Thou shall not kill" is obviously the unlawful killing, the killing God hasnt commanded. There's a context and application to all sayings. Plus the idea of God not killing removes God from any connection to real life, which I understand you favor as an argument to deal with, but it's really not essentially theistic.
Endnuenfyr 6 months ago
@Endnuenfyr I think the real message is that God didn't kill anybody in the OT. It was just men killing in the name of God. That is the only way I can understand God having any moral credibility. If in fact the bible is not the true word of God, but just an account of history by men who believed in Him. That is not how most Christians would view it, though. I think that is why we see all this atheistic outcry and these video's against Christians in particular.
Clubbingshawn 6 months ago
@Clubbingshawn or the fact that religion is absolutely ridiculous/hilarious, and that the science against it/ proving our natural origins, is so overwhelming? the more we progress into the future, the further and further away from religion we will sway because sheer fact will be taught to so many; something that didn't happen even 50 years ago.i give it 100 years before the majority of the electorate is atheist.
TheNondiscriminatory 6 months ago
@TheNondiscriminatory If only it would happen in our lifetime.
Clubbingshawn 6 months ago
@Clubbingshawn See, that is a more rational explanation for a god, one that is actually credible in my eyes.
feralaesthetic 6 months ago
@ScarletAssasin cont. So the question is, does religious beliefs coincide with person beliefs, or do they clash? I'm not saying ALL theists are this way. I'm just asking a legitimate qu