This edited collection of snippets of a speech is not the actual speech. This 5 minute and 24 second "thing" is a manufactured balogna sandwhich. President Kennedy gave his speech to the American Newspaper Publishers Association on April 27, 1961, just a few days after the tremendously embarassing Bay of Pigs.
He is NOT warning about secret societies, he is talking about his administration and the mistakes made with the Bay of Pigs. The actual speech is just shy of 20 minutes.
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how can anybody argue with this? expecially when the facts of the illuminati r put forth! plus kennedy was assasinated!!! way too many coincidences to just b one
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I don't get it, how you compare a extreme right wing like Paul with a left democrat like JFK? I only had to check Wikipedia to see how different are those two. Paul practically is against everything Kennedy support in his time. I mean, really?
@ivanpb1983 Erm...you're an idiot? Who said anything about extreme right? Ron Paul is against pretty much EVERYTHING this country has been doing for the past 50 years? He's pro-liberty and has been exposing the MIC and special interest which are milking this country dry for years now? Go read?
Ron Paul? Seriusly, how could someone compare Kennedy to Ron Paul? Ron Paul's speech is almost "let's give all the power to the powerfull and let's the civil society rot in fake civil liberties".
What's tells the history about reducing state's civil protection and increasing coorporative "freedom"? The second grows in power and wealth, then the kidnaps the political system (a.k.a. collusion and lobby), then, they just do as they please with whom they please. It's what's been happening all along the 20th century in the occidental world, best example's are post-dictatorship Chile, Peru and Korea.
@DENlERU I like Dr. Paul, however how would lifting all federal regulations not help these "powerful people." Lets think of how we got in this mess. The derivatives market, which should of never existed in the first place, had no regulations. With Federal regulations losses would have been much less than they were. Therefore we wouldn't be in as big of a hole as we are in. Keep in mind minimum wage is a federal regulation would you like businesses deciding how much they have to pay ppl?
The one thing I'm afraid of is that if Ron Paul gets elected he's going to get assassinated the same way and for the same reasons JFK was...that's what I fear the most.
@Spjungen Well, that might wake some people up. This isn't the 60's where a gunner might be able to shoot the pres... We are in an era of super-high technology which *SHOULD* in theory be able to protect the president. If a President gets assassinated today, people are going to wonder what the trillions in defense budgets are for, if they can't even protect their own CEO. Actually they will more than wonder, they will be very skeptical of whatever story is spun for them...
@norskemann1 During his campaign, Obama spoke extensively about transparency. I hate to reply this way but there is too much material, you can google "Obama campaign transparency promise" and the results will show not only his multiple promises of transparency, but also that it was among the very first promises (30 January 2009 per propublica) that he violated, and that he continues to work against transparency through today.
This is great video. I am glad JFK made such a speech. I made a similar video after my spiritual awakening. Below is the link if you're interested. youtube.com/watch?v=QeYgLLahHv8
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@admthrwn Ron Paul is the spiritual descendent of so many voices, those of the founding fathers on freedom and liberty, those of the austrian school economists on prosperity and a free market, and that of JFK on transparency and scrutiny.
Luckily, transparency, scrutiny and the proliferation of information have never been more widespread than they are today, with the prevalence of the internet. It means that it has become more and more difficult for the government to lie to us.
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Watergate, asbestos, COINTELPRO, Tuskegee Syphilis Study, Manhattan Project, the Mafia,
these used to be considered conspiracy theories. They turned out to be true. Most people had no idea of them. Is it really that impossible that there are still conspiracies going on? Look at secret societies. They want to cover their deeds up. They have evil purpose. Fed by greed, they want to rule the world. Open your eyes!
@Salvysahagun: Okay...but men of honesty and integrity often end-up in the same place over time. I think JFK and Ron Paul have about the same understanding of the banking system...they weren't totally different on this most important of political issues.
June 4, 1963: Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, signed by John F. Kennedy put the Federal Reserve out of business. It gave the power to the Treasury to issue currency without the private central bank. They were to be "United States Notes" instead of "Federal Reserve Notes". These US Notes were backed by silver and therefore debt free.
November 22, 1963: President John F. Kennedy is assassinated and all US Notes are immediately taken out of circulation.
This speech predicted Bush Jr and his Skull n Bones secret society, Bush Jr and his Patriot acts and his Homeland security and Fox news propaganda that gives the public what it wants.
The enemy is not out there. It's right here. He's a conservative Republican voter.
Communism isn't a 'secret society'. Strange that Eisenhower gave a speech warning of the military industrial complex, then Kennedy gives a speech warning of secret societies
This speech is not about communism. In fact, the exact opposite is true. Research "operation gladio" - that's a good place to start to figure out what he is talking about. Second, if it was a about communism then why would he talk about freedom of press at the end??? Of course the press knows they are free to be critical of communism.
People who think he was talking about Illuminati should try to read a history-book instead of fantasy-novels. Because you obviously haven't got a clue about the world as it was during Kennedy's speech.
@kerkvader yea, and all of the ufo sightings across the planet seen by individuals as well as large groups and reputable people are nothing more than weather balloons, weather balloons, weather balloons, weather balloons, or some bizzare light phenomena. keep chanting your mantra to yourself, that there are no conspiracies and that the government is honest. that way when you realise how much they've been fucking you in the ass, you might just learn something from the shock of it.
@yoktor I'm not talking about ufo's, and I'm not saying 'that there are no conspiracies and that the government is honest'. But I do know this is a part of a Kennedy speech about the then very real communist threat, and that his words are placed in a completely different context now. That's what I call manipulation of facts.
@kerkvader what does he mean when he is talking about the grave danger of people who are eager to take security to the limits of repression. about the danger of mimicking the soviets in censorship. about the government being open for the good of the people. he is very clearly indicating that our government is in peril of being taken over and away from the people.
@yoktor He was pleading for a new open society, a new way of government. Different from how the Republicans had done it, who in his eyes had been weak against communism, and covering up their mistakes. The point is: the world was then a completely different one as the one today. And you should first know how that world was like, which problems it was facing, to fully understand what he was talking about..
@kerkvader yes, and why was he pleading for an open society? because theirs was in threat of becoming closed by cause of the republicans, i guess, as you are indicating. "and there is the very grave danger that an announced increased need for security will be seized upon by those anxious to extend its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment." he is clearly talking about whats going on in our country. he may allude to communists, but its about our domestic threat.
@yoktor Sure, but secret operations by a government (or political factions), and a world-conspiracy by Illuminati are completely different things. Governments have always been covering up secret operations, any place & time in history. Kennedy himself was also involved in such things, like in Cuba and Vietnam. And there was also the Mafia, a main target for him and his brother at the time.
This speech is full of wisdom, and enlightens us with the roots of a free society. I've no doubt that if these words were followed by the american people the world would be a much better place. Instead this man has been murdered in an obvious consipiracy by the american people and Still the american people who are apart of the societies still remain silent!
What he says in the speech is what never happened, the opposite has in fact happened, infiltration, subversion, intimidation and silenc
This speech says it all. John F. Kennedy was one of the greatest Martyrs that America has ever had. He (Kennedy) died for trying to expose and counter those (illuminati) that would try to destroy the UNITED STATES.
This speech can't have been about the commies. "Subversion by night, instead of invasion by day"? Why would he have gone on about American secret societies at the start, then randomly, without explanation, switch on to the topic of the soviet union, who made no secret of its military victories, and had many of its secrets revealed by the US press "its mistakes are burred, not publicised". Seems to me focused on political transparency within the US. The coincidence theorists are the delusional.
He was trying to oppose the 'Sovereign Military Order of Malta', the most powerful organization on the planet.(then & now) Not communists or Freemasons. All of his actions that led to his death were direct attacks on this oligarchy's control levies. Communism is a fake enemy and Freemasonry was usurped by the Jesuits in 1776 by Jesuit professor Adam Weishup. The Rothchilds didnt find out 1day advance about Napoleon's defeat; Napoleon threw the battle like fixed fight following black pope's order
He is clearly not talking about communism. He is referring multiple times to society of the United States of America. Not once is there the sligthest reference to the Soviet Union.
(Check source: "What Kennedy said with the formation of letters using his mouth and vocal cord" can easily be obtained from listening to the audio in this video)
You people are FOOLISH. You talk about the truth, but then you listen to an EDITED version of Kennedy's speech. Go to the Kennedy library and read the FULL speech before you talk about TRUTH. The real conspiracy here is that someone has edited Kennedy's words to influence your opinion. I put the text of this speech into a word counter and figured that 710 words have been omitted from the video. That amounts to 30% of the speech.
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@GliTCH11 If you have a read of the whole speech that will become obvious to you. JFK is contrasting his vision of a free and open society with what he then recognised as the world wide communist conspiracy. He was concerned that those freedoms could be surrendered in the name of national security as response to that threat; investing confidence in the American people, when properly informed, to respond sensibly to that threat. That is, in essence, what the speech was about.
if this sppech is about communism, then why does he say that "we the american" people are in the grips of a secret plan originating in the banking and highest levels of AMERICAN government???
Because in his opinion, Wall Street and members of secret societies (e.g. Bilderbergers), that are actually in charge in the US and in other western countries (instead of the elected governments), were secretly cooperating with the Soviet Union, or even worse, are the same people, were and still are striving for a global (undemocratic) government.
Also see Antony Sutton about Skull & Bones, Wall Street and the bolshevik revolution etc. Available on YouTube, very interesting.
The corporations have bonded together to control the worlds money and the worlds various currency systems. If you oppose this system you will be muzzled and put down and labeled a terrorist. 30-40 years ago you would be labeled a communist. Under the eyes of the government both words have the same meaning, and that is a word provoking fear and threat used as social control. John F Kennedy was the last real president standing for true freedom. Humans are born to be free and independent.
Isn't communism supposedly a product of Illuminism? Wasn't the goal of Illuminism a communist world government? I don't get why it makes a difference that he was talking about communism? Maybe he was subtly outing the infiltrators in the government.. Were secret oaths and proceedings borrowed from Illuminist covenry by communism? Clearly niether perspective in these back and forths are really even addressing common "conspiracy theory" very thoroughly..
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Many evil occultic symbolism in Gaga's 'Romance' video. Near the beginning of this video she sings Ra, Ra. Ra is the Egypt sun god (Satan /Lucifer). When she shows her fingers in a 'V' shape over her right eye...this represents her god Horus (Satan / Devil). At the end of the video the wall has two animal mounts on the wall behind the bed. These represent the goat of Mendes which is also called Baphomet (Satan / Lucifer).
@miketonon It clearly was about the perceived threat of communism, and was made three months after his inauguration. But he also directs attention to what he describes as the "need for restraint", and cautions that restraint should flow from the people and be expressive of the popular will, not be imposed by institutions. Magnificent leadership!
@miketonon Having read the entire speech, which can be accessed at he jfklibrary website, it clearly was about Communism. But I do agree with you, mike, that JFK is calling upon the media to discharge its responsibility to maintain the transparency of government, notwithstanding the "narrowest" needs of secrecy on public security grounds. James Douglas' brilliant "JFK and the Unspeakable, etc" is a throughly researched and brilliant analysis of JFK's courageous response to these concerns.
@SvendBosanvovski He made it vaguely sound like he was talking about Communism, but he clearly wasn't. Instead of "Communism" and "political subversion" he specifically talked about secret societies, with secret oaths and secret proceedings. Communism was a political ideology, not a secret society.
@d1699093 I can do more than encourage you to read the whole speech, my friend. I think that pays JFK the courtesy he deserves. It should satisfy you that at the beginning of his presidency he accepted the conventional view that communism constituted the most serious challenge. But as James Douglas brilliantly argues, he went through something of an epiphany around the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis and became more concerned about the possibility of human extinction through nuclear war.
@SvendBosanvovski Most conspiracy theory holds that communism is a product of Illuminist thinking. How come everyone here missed that clear and obvious tenet? It's like one of the most important arguments made by conspiracy theorists that the Illuminist soceities are actively subversive in the first place.. wouldnt that imply that the fact that JFK is talking about communism doesnt really go against the conspiracy argument, although it doesnt really support it either?
@mattlambrecht1 This has little to do with the point I was advancing and that is that JFK's speech was clearly about the perceived threat of Communism. It is disingenuous to make something else of it.
@SvendBosanvovski yeah well I agree and that's why I said it doesn't really support it either. but yeah I still think thats a decent point to make to kind of resolve these arguments because without noticing that historical premise of the conspiracy people will never stop arguing about it, because the conspiracy theorists are going to continue to see the conspiracy in other things and lead them to keep drawing this essentially erroneous conclusion about the speech
@SvendBosanvovski Like I'm just saying, a big part of the entire theory relies on the idea that Bolshevism was funded and controlled by the so-called "illuminati" banking and etc cartels/families/whatever.. basically the JP Morgan n co funding n all that.. so arguing endlessly about whether this speech was about communism or illuminist world government is kind of just a pointless distraction.. the speech was about communism, but the theory is that communism is a manipulation by the elites/SecSoc
@mattlambrecht1 Matt, I doubt that wheh Marx and Engels were drafting the Communist Manifesto in 1848 that they were impelled by Illuminati concerns. Central to their theory was the idea of class struggle and the conception that history was shaped by the particular form the social and technical means of production took within different modes of production. They set out to champion the interest of the proletariat - those excluded from control and ownership of the means of production, compelled.
@SvendBosanvovski yeah but that shows that you are thinking in terms of dialectical materialism. the problem with socialism is that the state never "whithers away". It just becomes the same thing it set out to destroy a "dictatorship of monopoly capital".. Not that that proves anything per se, but it does show its potential as a tool of a manipulative elite. part of the conspiratorial contention is that the "league of the just" was a front for the royalty, bankers, occult establishment etc.
@SvendBosanvovski my point is that the "revolution" could just be the tool of elites. This tactic of buying of an establishment "buying a revolution" is not unheard of in history. The fear of the conspiratorial view has to do with a seemingly common agenda of "social engineering" etc based on ideas often rooted in esoteric philosophy that pervades many different genocidal ideologies such as communism and fascism. I'm just trying to explain what drives these theories on a deeper level.
@SvendBosanvovski I shouldn't have said the argument is a "distraction" though, without adding "from the common conspiratorial perspective".. The speech is clearly about communism.
@mattlambrecht1 You make some very good points, Matt, and I accept your characterisation of JFK's speech. The whole notion of conspiracy in politics is a distraction, because it reduces significant events to single actors as though they were somehow discrete from broader structural processes. I prefer Peter Dale Scott's term "deep politics" as a way of coming to see how particular actors can exert a disproportionate influence at defining moments.
@SvendBosanvovski interesting I'll have to check out his work.. The reason I've bought into alot of these "conspiracy theories" has mostly to do with certain political actors seeming to be connected in various ways involving their position in the establishment, their wealth and associations as well as basically the whole "globalist", etc. agenda. Basically if you search for conspiratorial sources who use the term "black nobility" you'll find info that I would consider relevant..
@SvendBosanvovski but I mean I get why some people think "conspiracy theorists" are crazy.. alot of people on youtube and stuff really just allow themselves to take all sorts of mental shortcuts and just point out triangles in movies and shit or get into inane arguments with people making bad points that have already been addressed.. Like all this freemasons "Satan-worshipping" shit just is such an easy straw man argument to beat but it ignores real important questions I think..
"Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match."
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It would be good to have an occasion & date for this speech. It sounds clearly like an address to newspaper editors & reporters: requesting a service to the American public as protected in the 1st Amendment. One statement that stands out for me: an error is not a mistake unless we refuse to correct it, and Kennedy encourages the press to report all of the errors that his administration will make so that they might be corrected. He recognizes the importance of opposition and public debate.
Its amazing to me that so long after this speech was given, so many people still do not believe in the shadow government and still call it "conspiracy theory".
Which is funny because all I can see conspiracy theorists doing in Youtube comment pages is trying to belittle and stifle alternative (and often entirely correct) opinion. Isn't that exactly what you claim the illuminati are doing to the 'sheeple'?
The way to get your opinions considered with any degree of seriousness is to engage in rational, reasoned debate - as it is, it's easy for people who are genuinely oppressive to characterise you as a ranting, paranoid minority.
@cameronpoole He was talking about the CIA, FBI, IRS, and the Federal Reserve. He was trying to warn us of the powerful financial institutions that are oppressing the world.
@cameronpoole - Was the Soviet Union a "secret society"? Was it a "ruthless conspiracy"? Did it "use guerrillas by night"? Thanks for the history lesson mate, now how about you go get a coke and shut the fuck up.
The USSR WAS a secret society, bereft of a free press; presidents from the 1940s onwards characterised the USSR as trying to cultivate a malevolent international conspiracy (even though it wasn't); and yeah, they did - they dispatched their military to invade surrounding countries at night.
Learn some factually accurate history before you belittle and stifle an alternative (and entirely correct) opinion. Isn't that exactly what you claim the illuminati are doing to the 'sheeple'? IDIOT.
@Pepotamo1985 The same conspiracy runs through your society today do you think the supreme soviet is behind it? Are there reds under the beds? Why do you think this speech is posted on youtube and it's message still relevant? You really think it ended with the cold war? Sorry for being rude before mate and sorry for how long it's been to reply but if you're still up for a stoush, I like the way you fight back!
yeah.. he was NOT talking of the globalist elite, NOT the CIA, NOT the "octopus" (as murdered journalist Danny Casolero called it), NOT the drug-smuggeling, gun-running, assassinating, inner circle of corrupt people involved in government and gigantic corporations, NOT the military industrial complex, NOT the secret societies "Skull and Bones", "Jesuits" and so forth.. It was just the soviets. Well, phew!! Thanx, man. I guess we're all safe then!
yeah.. he was NOT talking of the globalist elite, NOT the CIA, NOT the "octopus" (as murdered journalist Danny Casolero called it), NOT the drug-smuggeling, gun-running, assassinating, inner circle of corrupt people involved in government and gigantic corporations, NOT the military industrial complex, NOT the secret societies "Skull and Bones", "Jesuits" and so forth.. It was just the soviets. Well, phew!! Thanx, man. I guess we're all safe then!
@cameronpoole LOL if he was talkin about the russians.. then why say.. i do not intend to permit.. to the extent its in my control....
he was the president... of the u.s.a not russia,...thats what he could control.... i swear some people on hear what they want to.. or are just plain stupid.
@cameronpoole Kennedy was talking about the military industrial complex, the USSR was not a secret society, and if you think that he was.. you are simply brainwashed in my opinion.
@Pepotamo1985 An opinion is not a generlisation, as it is not a broad statement, and I am entitled to it.. take a seat over there, the pointy cap that reads moron is available just for you.
Erm...you presented your (stultifyingly ill-informed) opinion as fact. The USSR WAS a secret society, and I recommend you do a tiny bit of reading up on the nature of the USSR during the Cold War before you say something so fucking stupid.
You could also listen to this speech in its full, unexpurgated form - it's littered with references to Russia, the Cold War, and Communism. Then your 'opinion' might have a leg to stand on.
@Pepotamo1985 Of-course he was talking about the USSR jeess what are you guys smoking? - I want some! You are missing the MAIN point of his speech: What's the GOAL of fighting evil by becoming evil. What's the point of fighting closed societies by loosing our freedoms along the way?
He, like Eisenhower warned about the danger, of destroying our democracy with the excuse of security. Jfk is showing you the Moon and you stare at the finger but meanwhile America is becoming a militaristic society.
I agree...Klaus, on the other hand, does not. Because he's an idiot.
It's ironic that Kennedy uses the phrase 'expand its meaning' in this speech when the meaning of this very speech has been expanded (in the cretinous mind of net conspiracy fools) on the basis of Kennedy's use of the term 'secret society'.
@Pepotamo1985 Let them chase the "secret societies" and let those assholes in Washington, do whatever they like..
Here, give more trillions to the Banks.
Here, give more trillions to the Army.
Oh jee, we are going bankrupt, There is no money left for retirement, what? pension money? I don't see any money.. What? You just gave them to me? .. nah... I can't recall that.. Oh, Look a squirrel!
@Pepotamo1985 No.. the USSR was a society that emphasized (and brutally enforced) secrecy, not a secret society.. please, learn to comprehend before you sprech.
If you and I were to create a club, secretly which moved our own goals forward at the expense of others, and maintained its secrecy, slowly expanding said club with like minded individuals, THAT would be a secret society, not a society which is secretive.
Certainly the bits about censorship can apply to either a NWO or the USSR.
@Klaus1386 The USSR was frequently referred to by academics and politicians alike throughout the Cold War as a 'secret' or 'closed' society in essays, books and internal memos. This is a common term used by political theorists to describe countries which don't have a free press etc. (North Korea et al). Funnily enough, this speech in full contains numerous overt references to Russia, Communism, the USSR and the Cold War.
The term 'society' has several meanings in English too.
@cameronpoole He described how closed societies like the USSR work. But he also accused a part of the US government for acting like the USSR. (keeping secrets and conspiring behind closed doors for the so called "good" of the country.) just like closed societies do. Open societies keep no secrets nor they use undemocratic procedures etc. JFK afraid that America was becoming more and more like the monster he was trying to defeat, with the oligarchs controlling all aspects of the government.
Actually I don't think Kennedy was planning on pulling us out and Nixon was basically forced into doing so by Kissinger and the public. Its all messed up. Does anyone know when this was recorded? I'm sure he was murdered for saying something like this in public. Its strange that LBJ didn't pull us out because he for civil rights and stuff like that. I think he wanted to win the war and didn't want to be the first president to loose one, so he kept us in it for political reasons.
@y2kgeezus If LBJ had ended Vietnam he would not have been the first American president to loose a war. I have no idea where this idea that the Vietnam war was our first loss comes from.
Kennedy was an average President. Could he have been great? Maybe. But he made many mistakes. The biggest on the say he was shot. He never listened to the secret service.
We've never had a great President. Kennedy the "legend' doesn't go with the facts. He was careless and that led to his death.Read "An Unfinished Life: John F. Kennedy, 1917-1963
He was having sex with Ellen Rometsch, a suspected East German spy. Not the angel and good president that the legend created.
This edited collection of snippets of a speech is not the actual speech. This 5 minute and 24 second "thing" is a manufactured balogna sandwhich. President Kennedy gave his speech to the American Newspaper Publishers Association on April 27, 1961, just a few days after the tremendously embarassing Bay of Pigs.
He is NOT warning about secret societies, he is talking about his administration and the mistakes made with the Bay of Pigs. The actual speech is just shy of 20 minutes.
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debtslave1 1 week ago
the speech that got him killed.... god bless you john f. Kennedy see you in heaven GEORGE BUSH BURN IN HELL!!!!!
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Please watch my story "TIFFANY LEBOUEF SEEKS JUSTICE" They hid my only evidence and lied about it then they made me "TAKE THE DEAL" or go to Prison for 9 + yrs. This is crazy stuff. They have given me 2 strikes and one more brush with the law of any kind will send me to "PRISON FOR LIFE"..... HELP MEEEEEEEE!
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joanarc1111 4 weeks ago
how can anybody argue with this? expecially when the facts of the illuminati r put forth! plus kennedy was assasinated!!! way too many coincidences to just b one
superflymacv31 1 month ago
WE ARE UNDER THE CONTROL OF AN EMPEROR; BUT UNLIKE A NORMAL EMPIRE THE EMPEROR REMAINS IN THE DARKNESS, HE DOES NOT REVEAL HIMSELF TO THE PEOPLE
BUT HE ACTS THROUGH EMISSARIES, FIRSTLY THE BANKING SYSTEM WHO CREATES THE MONEY AND LOANS IT, THEN BIG COMPANIES WHO USES THE MONEY, THE MEDIA AND THE POLITICS WHO IS PAID TO KEEP THE PEOPLE IGNORANT, THE MILITARY TO REPRESS THE REBELLIONS AND TO EXPAND HIS DOMINATION.
WE THE PEOPLE NOW IF WE WANT TO BE FREE AND INDEPENDENT THE WAY IS THE REVOLUTION!
fornaceariverbero 1 month ago 3
I don't get it, how you compare a extreme right wing like Paul with a left democrat like JFK? I only had to check Wikipedia to see how different are those two. Paul practically is against everything Kennedy support in his time. I mean, really?
ivanpb1983 1 month ago
@ivanpb1983 its the respect and true care of the american citizens that makes these 2 seem to b in the same category
superflymacv31 1 month ago
@ivanpb1983 Erm...you're an idiot? Who said anything about extreme right? Ron Paul is against pretty much EVERYTHING this country has been doing for the past 50 years? He's pro-liberty and has been exposing the MIC and special interest which are milking this country dry for years now? Go read?
Idiot.
Spjungen 3 weeks ago
RIP JFK
ninmachine109 2 months ago
Ron Paul? Seriusly, how could someone compare Kennedy to Ron Paul? Ron Paul's speech is almost "let's give all the power to the powerfull and let's the civil society rot in fake civil liberties".
G0parra 2 months ago
@G0parra Are you trolling or are you really that stupid?
DENlERU 2 months ago
@DENlERU
What's tells the history about reducing state's civil protection and increasing coorporative "freedom"? The second grows in power and wealth, then the kidnaps the political system (a.k.a. collusion and lobby), then, they just do as they please with whom they please. It's what's been happening all along the 20th century in the occidental world, best example's are post-dictatorship Chile, Peru and Korea.
G0parra 2 months ago
@DENlERU I like Dr. Paul, however how would lifting all federal regulations not help these "powerful people." Lets think of how we got in this mess. The derivatives market, which should of never existed in the first place, had no regulations. With Federal regulations losses would have been much less than they were. Therefore we wouldn't be in as big of a hole as we are in. Keep in mind minimum wage is a federal regulation would you like businesses deciding how much they have to pay ppl?
gangstagibz 2 months ago
JFK was the last true American president
mosthighoracle 2 months ago 8
We need a man in the White House that "gets this" JFK, RFK, where are you? May God help us!
DRALEX113 2 months ago
The one thing I'm afraid of is that if Ron Paul gets elected he's going to get assassinated the same way and for the same reasons JFK was...that's what I fear the most.
Spjungen 2 months ago
@Spjungen Well, that might wake some people up. This isn't the 60's where a gunner might be able to shoot the pres... We are in an era of super-high technology which *SHOULD* in theory be able to protect the president. If a President gets assassinated today, people are going to wonder what the trillions in defense budgets are for, if they can't even protect their own CEO. Actually they will more than wonder, they will be very skeptical of whatever story is spun for them...
grunt7684 3 weeks ago
Obama said he same things. It's actions, not words, that matter.
stillspooky 2 months ago
@stillspooky where did obama say this?
norskemann1 2 months ago
@norskemann1 During his campaign, Obama spoke extensively about transparency. I hate to reply this way but there is too much material, you can google "Obama campaign transparency promise" and the results will show not only his multiple promises of transparency, but also that it was among the very first promises (30 January 2009 per propublica) that he violated, and that he continues to work against transparency through today.
stillspooky 2 months ago
@stillspooky He never mentioned the WORLDWIDE MONOLITHIC CONSPIRACY which has conscripted VAST HUMAN AND MATERIAL RESOURCES...
Well... OF COURSE NOT.
grunt7684 3 weeks ago
@grunt7684 LOL of course not, they were BOTH part of that conspiracy ;~)
stillspooky 3 weeks ago
This is great video. I am glad JFK made such a speech. I made a similar video after my spiritual awakening. Below is the link if you're interested. youtube.com/watch?v=QeYgLLahHv8
amegha1 2 months ago
The last true president this country had.
Sad.
JessieArmy 2 months ago
This is the speech that got JFK murdered.
99pctconservative 3 months ago 7
He's addressing the D.o.D, particularly the C.I.A. and their power to use "plausible deniability."
zknix20 3 months ago
3 members of secret societies voted dislike
pipenissen 3 months ago 2
He was a good man, but his father was an asshole. At least in the TV-show. It was a good show
pipenissen 3 months ago
3 people should have been assasinated
njnolla 3 months ago 2
I wish he said this during a State of the Union, the world would be SOOO much different.
Salvysahagun 4 months ago
He refers to the Rothschilds and the FED.
matube73 4 months ago 2
When America woke up yesterday morning it suddenly realized:10 years ago we had Steve Jobs, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope...today we have no Jobs, no Cash and no Hope!
abdullahiraabi 4 months ago
JFK for president.
oh wait..
Voffsing1 4 months ago 18
@Voffsing1 JFK lives. His name is now Ron Paul. :)
admthrwn 2 months ago
@admthrwn Ron Paul is the spiritual descendent of so many voices, those of the founding fathers on freedom and liberty, those of the austrian school economists on prosperity and a free market, and that of JFK on transparency and scrutiny.
Luckily, transparency, scrutiny and the proliferation of information have never been more widespread than they are today, with the prevalence of the internet. It means that it has become more and more difficult for the government to lie to us.
Spjungen 2 months ago
@admthrwn Eventually it'll be impossible. We'll be too skeptical to believe them and will be compelled to research all the circumstances first.
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1dtbimp 5 months ago
The speech was about the Council on Foreign relations. Unfortunately by the time this speech was made they had already co-opted all the major media.
Hozee1960 6 months ago
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Watergate, asbestos, COINTELPRO, Tuskegee Syphilis Study, Manhattan Project, the Mafia,
these used to be considered conspiracy theories. They turned out to be true. Most people had no idea of them. Is it really that impossible that there are still conspiracies going on? Look at secret societies. They want to cover their deeds up. They have evil purpose. Fed by greed, they want to rule the world. Open your eyes!
Ricetrife 7 months ago
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he is obviously talking about the united states government, thats why he was killed by his own secret service
nofatchxplzthx 7 months ago
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He was not, he was killed by the D.o.D. The war machine has to keep churning.
zknix20 3 months ago
Outside of Ron Paul....JFK was probably the last man out of DC worth listening to.
37jimg 7 months ago 30
@37jimg
Ya but their Policies are totally different.
Salvysahagun 4 months ago
@Salvysahagun: Okay...but men of honesty and integrity often end-up in the same place over time. I think JFK and Ron Paul have about the same understanding of the banking system...they weren't totally different on this most important of political issues.
37jimg 4 months ago
@37jimg you should probably pick one or the other
SuperBazzaz 3 months ago
June 4, 1963: Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, signed by John F. Kennedy put the Federal Reserve out of business. It gave the power to the Treasury to issue currency without the private central bank. They were to be "United States Notes" instead of "Federal Reserve Notes". These US Notes were backed by silver and therefore debt free.
November 22, 1963: President John F. Kennedy is assassinated and all US Notes are immediately taken out of circulation.
Why will no one bring justice?
goodbyetroll 7 months ago 7
@goodbyetroll very interesting thank you - any links to more on this? :)
Simeon747 5 months ago
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@goodbyetroll very interesting thank you - any links to more on this? :)
Simeon747 5 months ago
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Nakor420ish 8 months ago 3
Any fake president nowadays would never make a speech like this. Kennedy was the last real American leader since the CIA/Banking coup.
spliter227 8 months ago
Kennedy is like a prophet.
This speech predicted Bush Jr and his Skull n Bones secret society, Bush Jr and his Patriot acts and his Homeland security and Fox news propaganda that gives the public what it wants.
The enemy is not out there. It's right here. He's a conservative Republican voter.
qwertywxyz 9 months ago
This a a very brave person now it is our turn to be the change, for a free world, free in all aspects of economic control.
artcovert 9 months ago
Communism isn't a 'secret society'. Strange that Eisenhower gave a speech warning of the military industrial complex, then Kennedy gives a speech warning of secret societies
pigeonpsycho 9 months ago
This speech is not about communism. In fact, the exact opposite is true. Research "operation gladio" - that's a good place to start to figure out what he is talking about. Second, if it was a about communism then why would he talk about freedom of press at the end??? Of course the press knows they are free to be critical of communism.
niverent 9 months ago
People who think he was talking about Illuminati should try to read a history-book instead of fantasy-novels. Because you obviously haven't got a clue about the world as it was during Kennedy's speech.
kerkvader 10 months ago
@kerkvader yea, and all of the ufo sightings across the planet seen by individuals as well as large groups and reputable people are nothing more than weather balloons, weather balloons, weather balloons, weather balloons, or some bizzare light phenomena. keep chanting your mantra to yourself, that there are no conspiracies and that the government is honest. that way when you realise how much they've been fucking you in the ass, you might just learn something from the shock of it.
yoktor 10 months ago
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@yoktor I'm not talking about ufo's, and I'm not saying 'that there are no conspiracies and that the government is honest'. But I do know this is a part of a Kennedy speech about the then very real communist threat, and that his words are placed in a completely different context now. That's what I call manipulation of facts.
kerkvader 10 months ago
@kerkvader what does he mean when he is talking about the grave danger of people who are eager to take security to the limits of repression. about the danger of mimicking the soviets in censorship. about the government being open for the good of the people. he is very clearly indicating that our government is in peril of being taken over and away from the people.
yoktor 10 months ago
@yoktor He was pleading for a new open society, a new way of government. Different from how the Republicans had done it, who in his eyes had been weak against communism, and covering up their mistakes. The point is: the world was then a completely different one as the one today. And you should first know how that world was like, which problems it was facing, to fully understand what he was talking about..
kerkvader 10 months ago
@kerkvader yes, and why was he pleading for an open society? because theirs was in threat of becoming closed by cause of the republicans, i guess, as you are indicating. "and there is the very grave danger that an announced increased need for security will be seized upon by those anxious to extend its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment." he is clearly talking about whats going on in our country. he may allude to communists, but its about our domestic threat.
yoktor 10 months ago
@yoktor Sure, but secret operations by a government (or political factions), and a world-conspiracy by Illuminati are completely different things. Governments have always been covering up secret operations, any place & time in history. Kennedy himself was also involved in such things, like in Cuba and Vietnam. And there was also the Mafia, a main target for him and his brother at the time.
kerkvader 10 months ago
This speech is full of wisdom, and enlightens us with the roots of a free society. I've no doubt that if these words were followed by the american people the world would be a much better place. Instead this man has been murdered in an obvious consipiracy by the american people and Still the american people who are apart of the societies still remain silent!
What he says in the speech is what never happened, the opposite has in fact happened, infiltration, subversion, intimidation and silenc
brendanf82 10 months ago
This speech says it all. John F. Kennedy was one of the greatest Martyrs that America has ever had. He (Kennedy) died for trying to expose and counter those (illuminati) that would try to destroy the UNITED STATES.
carlsonraymondh 10 months ago
This speech can't have been about the commies. "Subversion by night, instead of invasion by day"? Why would he have gone on about American secret societies at the start, then randomly, without explanation, switch on to the topic of the soviet union, who made no secret of its military victories, and had many of its secrets revealed by the US press "its mistakes are burred, not publicised". Seems to me focused on political transparency within the US. The coincidence theorists are the delusional.
dressrehearsalrags 11 months ago
He was trying to oppose the 'Sovereign Military Order of Malta', the most powerful organization on the planet.(then & now) Not communists or Freemasons. All of his actions that led to his death were direct attacks on this oligarchy's control levies. Communism is a fake enemy and Freemasonry was usurped by the Jesuits in 1776 by Jesuit professor Adam Weishup. The Rothchilds didnt find out 1day advance about Napoleon's defeat; Napoleon threw the battle like fixed fight following black pope's order
supplanter111 11 months ago
He is clearly not talking about communism. He is referring multiple times to society of the United States of America. Not once is there the sligthest reference to the Soviet Union.
(Check source: "What Kennedy said with the formation of letters using his mouth and vocal cord" can easily be obtained from listening to the audio in this video)
WipesINC 11 months ago
You people are FOOLISH. You talk about the truth, but then you listen to an EDITED version of Kennedy's speech. Go to the Kennedy library and read the FULL speech before you talk about TRUTH. The real conspiracy here is that someone has edited Kennedy's words to influence your opinion. I put the text of this speech into a word counter and figured that 710 words have been omitted from the video. That amounts to 30% of the speech.
cameronpoole 11 months ago
I BELIEVE, HE WAS SPEAKING ABOUT , RUSSIA ,AND THE ILLUMINATI, SKULL+BONES,CIA,FBI,KGB,MOSSOD, THE JESUITS,MASONS. ECT, CONTROLED BY ASHKENAZI JEWS , THATS RIGHT , CALL ME WHAT YOU WILL, NOT REAL JEWS , BUT SELF PROCLAIMED JEWS FROM THE GATES OF HELL.THE MONEY CHANGING ROTHCHILDS THAT HAVE STARTED WARS,CRUSHED ECONOMIES, ENSLAVED NATIONS, FINANCED GERMANS ,BRITS,FRENCH,AMERICANS, ALL FIGHTING THE SAME WAR,THEN WERE THERE TO PICK UP THE PIECES, AND MAKE MILLIONS STEALING GOLD, SATANISTS.
hounddogdrifter 11 months ago
WHAT WE SO OFTEN FAIL TO REALIZE, IS THAT BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY, THE AGENDA WILL BE MET. GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH, STATED HIMSELF, "WHEN WE ARE SUCESSFUL, AND WE WILL BE" HE WAS REFERRING,TO THE NWO, I SUGGEST CHECKING OUT THE TIME LINE FOR THE ROTHCHILD FAMILY , IT WILL MAY HELP YOU UNDERSTAND BETTER, ABOUT THE ILLUMINATTI , WHERE IT CAME FROM ,WHO STARTED IT . IM NOT ALL KNOWING BUT IM LEARNING AND JUST WANTED TO SHARE WHAT I HAVE READ, IT SEEMS TO ALL BE RELATED TO ME.
hounddogdrifter 11 months ago
We many never know what JFK was talking about
RainbowManification 1 year ago
comments like this.. is why most of you want to believe this is about the russians...
'' it was just the soviets. Well, phew!! Thanx, man. I guess we're all safe then! ''
so u can feel comfort in knowing something.. its easier to do that accept the truth.
dylemmadnb 1 year ago
He is Definitely NOT talking about the Soviet Union!
iam01 1 year ago
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Padgeify 1 year ago
CHECK OUT EXECUTIVE ORDER 11110, RESEARCH THE ROTHCHILDS , READ ABOUT JEKYLL ISLAND. THEN LISTEN TO THIS SPEECH , AND SEE IF IT ALL DOESNT CLICK. GET READY MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS . ITS TIME PAST TIMES.
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hounddogdrifter 1 year ago
To everyone who thinks this speech was about the Soviet Union: 0:00 - Go back and listen to this speech again. Listen to it 10 times if you must.
GliTCH11 1 year ago
@GliTCH11 If you have a read of the whole speech that will become obvious to you. JFK is contrasting his vision of a free and open society with what he then recognised as the world wide communist conspiracy. He was concerned that those freedoms could be surrendered in the name of national security as response to that threat; investing confidence in the American people, when properly informed, to respond sensibly to that threat. That is, in essence, what the speech was about.
SvendBosanvovski 11 months ago
lol where does the soviet union come into it.,lol
djgk2003 1 year ago
@djgk2003 When you hear the whole speech. This is an EDITED version. Seek the truth, not twisted sources that pander to your preconceptions.
cameronpoole 11 months ago
JFK WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SOVIET UNION, COME ON PEOPLE DON'T BE SO GULLIBLE.
MrTonyalvarez 1 year ago
Please don't comment on this video unless you have seen or read the ENTIRE speech!
Heck, I'm not saying there's no Illuminati, zionist consipracy, or sasquatch. I'm just saying that this speech was about communism.
nodeal117 1 year ago
@nodeal117 It doesn't matter what conspiracy it was about, it points towards the possibility of involvement of our own government in conspiracies.
CFrostyTheSnowman 1 year ago 25
if this sppech is about communism, then why does he say that "we the american" people are in the grips of a secret plan originating in the banking and highest levels of AMERICAN government???
bondservnt 1 year ago 19
@bondservnt Can you post a time code where that is said? I don't see it in the official transcript.
cameronpoole 11 months ago
@bondservnt
Because in his opinion, Wall Street and members of secret societies (e.g. Bilderbergers), that are actually in charge in the US and in other western countries (instead of the elected governments), were secretly cooperating with the Soviet Union, or even worse, are the same people, were and still are striving for a global (undemocratic) government.
Also see Antony Sutton about Skull & Bones, Wall Street and the bolshevik revolution etc. Available on YouTube, very interesting.
schwabenpfeil81 9 months ago
@bondservnt It's about the FED.
FreddoX1 4 months ago
The corporations have bonded together to control the worlds money and the worlds various currency systems. If you oppose this system you will be muzzled and put down and labeled a terrorist. 30-40 years ago you would be labeled a communist. Under the eyes of the government both words have the same meaning, and that is a word provoking fear and threat used as social control. John F Kennedy was the last real president standing for true freedom. Humans are born to be free and independent.
RainbowManification 1 year ago
Isn't communism supposedly a product of Illuminism? Wasn't the goal of Illuminism a communist world government? I don't get why it makes a difference that he was talking about communism? Maybe he was subtly outing the infiltrators in the government.. Were secret oaths and proceedings borrowed from Illuminist covenry by communism? Clearly niether perspective in these back and forths are really even addressing common "conspiracy theory" very thoroughly..
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TruthTeller878 1 year ago
Zombies killed him!!! =O
urielbaeza1 1 year ago
There are no more presidents like JFK in this shitty world !!!!
bossanac81 1 year ago
I like what he says here...too bad talk is cheap. He had lots of secrets.
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violafinishda 1 year ago
the whole speech was about the cold war & "communism"
aerobique 1 year ago
@aerobique, even if it was, it fits very well with what appears to be going on today and possibly to a lesser extent decades and even centuries ago.
miketonon 1 year ago
@miketonon It clearly was about the perceived threat of communism, and was made three months after his inauguration. But he also directs attention to what he describes as the "need for restraint", and cautions that restraint should flow from the people and be expressive of the popular will, not be imposed by institutions. Magnificent leadership!
SvendBosanvovski 1 year ago
@SvendBosanvovski, he says any threat. Regardless if the speech was likely about communism, its meaning is more general.
miketonon 1 year ago
@miketonon Having read the entire speech, which can be accessed at he jfklibrary website, it clearly was about Communism. But I do agree with you, mike, that JFK is calling upon the media to discharge its responsibility to maintain the transparency of government, notwithstanding the "narrowest" needs of secrecy on public security grounds. James Douglas' brilliant "JFK and the Unspeakable, etc" is a throughly researched and brilliant analysis of JFK's courageous response to these concerns.
SvendBosanvovski 1 year ago 2
@SvendBosanvovski He made it vaguely sound like he was talking about Communism, but he clearly wasn't. Instead of "Communism" and "political subversion" he specifically talked about secret societies, with secret oaths and secret proceedings. Communism was a political ideology, not a secret society.
d1699093 1 year ago 3
@d1699093 I can do more than encourage you to read the whole speech, my friend. I think that pays JFK the courtesy he deserves. It should satisfy you that at the beginning of his presidency he accepted the conventional view that communism constituted the most serious challenge. But as James Douglas brilliantly argues, he went through something of an epiphany around the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis and became more concerned about the possibility of human extinction through nuclear war.
SvendBosanvovski 1 year ago
@SvendBosanvovski Most conspiracy theory holds that communism is a product of Illuminist thinking. How come everyone here missed that clear and obvious tenet? It's like one of the most important arguments made by conspiracy theorists that the Illuminist soceities are actively subversive in the first place.. wouldnt that imply that the fact that JFK is talking about communism doesnt really go against the conspiracy argument, although it doesnt really support it either?
mattlambrecht1 1 year ago
@mattlambrecht1 This has little to do with the point I was advancing and that is that JFK's speech was clearly about the perceived threat of Communism. It is disingenuous to make something else of it.
SvendBosanvovski 1 year ago
@SvendBosanvovski yeah well I agree and that's why I said it doesn't really support it either. but yeah I still think thats a decent point to make to kind of resolve these arguments because without noticing that historical premise of the conspiracy people will never stop arguing about it, because the conspiracy theorists are going to continue to see the conspiracy in other things and lead them to keep drawing this essentially erroneous conclusion about the speech
mattlambrecht1 1 year ago
@SvendBosanvovski Like I'm just saying, a big part of the entire theory relies on the idea that Bolshevism was funded and controlled by the so-called "illuminati" banking and etc cartels/families/whatever.. basically the JP Morgan n co funding n all that.. so arguing endlessly about whether this speech was about communism or illuminist world government is kind of just a pointless distraction.. the speech was about communism, but the theory is that communism is a manipulation by the elites/SecSoc
mattlambrecht1 1 year ago
@mattlambrecht1 Matt, I doubt that wheh Marx and Engels were drafting the Communist Manifesto in 1848 that they were impelled by Illuminati concerns. Central to their theory was the idea of class struggle and the conception that history was shaped by the particular form the social and technical means of production took within different modes of production. They set out to champion the interest of the proletariat - those excluded from control and ownership of the means of production, compelled.
SvendBosanvovski 1 year ago
@SvendBosanvovski yeah but that shows that you are thinking in terms of dialectical materialism. the problem with socialism is that the state never "whithers away". It just becomes the same thing it set out to destroy a "dictatorship of monopoly capital".. Not that that proves anything per se, but it does show its potential as a tool of a manipulative elite. part of the conspiratorial contention is that the "league of the just" was a front for the royalty, bankers, occult establishment etc.
mattlambrecht1 1 year ago
@SvendBosanvovski my point is that the "revolution" could just be the tool of elites. This tactic of buying of an establishment "buying a revolution" is not unheard of in history. The fear of the conspiratorial view has to do with a seemingly common agenda of "social engineering" etc based on ideas often rooted in esoteric philosophy that pervades many different genocidal ideologies such as communism and fascism. I'm just trying to explain what drives these theories on a deeper level.
mattlambrecht1 1 year ago
@SvendBosanvovski I shouldn't have said the argument is a "distraction" though, without adding "from the common conspiratorial perspective".. The speech is clearly about communism.
mattlambrecht1 1 year ago
@mattlambrecht1 You make some very good points, Matt, and I accept your characterisation of JFK's speech. The whole notion of conspiracy in politics is a distraction, because it reduces significant events to single actors as though they were somehow discrete from broader structural processes. I prefer Peter Dale Scott's term "deep politics" as a way of coming to see how particular actors can exert a disproportionate influence at defining moments.
SvendBosanvovski 1 year ago
@SvendBosanvovski interesting I'll have to check out his work.. The reason I've bought into alot of these "conspiracy theories" has mostly to do with certain political actors seeming to be connected in various ways involving their position in the establishment, their wealth and associations as well as basically the whole "globalist", etc. agenda. Basically if you search for conspiratorial sources who use the term "black nobility" you'll find info that I would consider relevant..
mattlambrecht1 1 year ago
@SvendBosanvovski but I mean I get why some people think "conspiracy theorists" are crazy.. alot of people on youtube and stuff really just allow themselves to take all sorts of mental shortcuts and just point out triangles in movies and shit or get into inane arguments with people making bad points that have already been addressed.. Like all this freemasons "Satan-worshipping" shit just is such an easy straw man argument to beat but it ignores real important questions I think..
mattlambrecht1 1 year ago
zionists killed him
otabi8 1 year ago
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aerobique 1 year ago
"Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match."
Pepotamo1985 1 year ago
1- one thing people, i can hardly believe what happend to me right after i wrote the other message of mine to @pepotamo1985, i dont say it was him, probably some motherfuckers that are monitoring this kind of things...
the fact is that never in my life my mail account was hacked and after this, not only i cant access the account, but also idk why, the answer to the question doesnt work and also it doesnt give me the option to send my password to my other mail account !!!
leddobrasil 1 year ago
this video really made me think... it made me think 'is there NOTHING on youtube that i will not masturbate to?'
666thesnowman 1 year ago
JFK was the Best in All.. His words are powerful and should be heard by all..
TheIngridFonseca 1 year ago
And here we are today...Fox News and all...
FourtyParsecs 1 year ago
It would be good to have an occasion & date for this speech. It sounds clearly like an address to newspaper editors & reporters: requesting a service to the American public as protected in the 1st Amendment. One statement that stands out for me: an error is not a mistake unless we refuse to correct it, and Kennedy encourages the press to report all of the errors that his administration will make so that they might be corrected. He recognizes the importance of opposition and public debate.
BellDraw 1 year ago
its funny that he dont got the face of bush and clinton he dont got the bloodline of dem
eazyreccords117 1 year ago
He probably should have dumbed it down so people understood him.
spraguep 1 year ago
The truth hurts, literally...
TheRiggyRiggs 1 year ago
When and what occasion did JFK make this speech?
sherazod 1 year ago
Its amazing to me that so long after this speech was given, so many people still do not believe in the shadow government and still call it "conspiracy theory".
t0kin420 1 year ago
Which is funny because all I can see conspiracy theorists doing in Youtube comment pages is trying to belittle and stifle alternative (and often entirely correct) opinion. Isn't that exactly what you claim the illuminati are doing to the 'sheeple'?
The way to get your opinions considered with any degree of seriousness is to engage in rational, reasoned debate - as it is, it's easy for people who are genuinely oppressive to characterise you as a ranting, paranoid minority.
Pepotamo1985 1 year ago
You people have not listened to the entire speech. He was talking about communism
cameronpoole 1 year ago
JFK took one for the team... i think we should return the favor!
cheedren 1 year ago
cameronpoole, Are you living on Earth?
Dvorany 1 year ago
Reagan was a great president, he was not controlled by the establishment, he was almost assassinated to place the first Bush in office.
SullyNH 1 year ago
Kennedy was talking about the Soviet Union.
cameronpoole 1 year ago 11
@cameronpoole He was talking about the CIA, FBI, IRS, and the Federal Reserve. He was trying to warn us of the powerful financial institutions that are oppressing the world.
SullyNH 1 year ago
@cameronpoole - Was the Soviet Union a "secret society"? Was it a "ruthless conspiracy"? Did it "use guerrillas by night"? Thanks for the history lesson mate, now how about you go get a coke and shut the fuck up.
jatrichlin 1 year ago
The USSR WAS a secret society, bereft of a free press; presidents from the 1940s onwards characterised the USSR as trying to cultivate a malevolent international conspiracy (even though it wasn't); and yeah, they did - they dispatched their military to invade surrounding countries at night.
Learn some factually accurate history before you belittle and stifle an alternative (and entirely correct) opinion. Isn't that exactly what you claim the illuminati are doing to the 'sheeple'? IDIOT.
Pepotamo1985 1 year ago
@Pepotamo1985 The same conspiracy runs through your society today do you think the supreme soviet is behind it? Are there reds under the beds? Why do you think this speech is posted on youtube and it's message still relevant? You really think it ended with the cold war? Sorry for being rude before mate and sorry for how long it's been to reply but if you're still up for a stoush, I like the way you fight back!
jatrichlin 11 months ago
@cameronpoole Then why is he refering to "we"?
RainbowManification 1 year ago
@cameronpoole
To cover up "OUR" mistakes, sure he talked about the soviet union.
This administration intends to be candied about its errors, sure he talked about the soviet union.
opiumrebel 1 year ago
@opiumrebel
great reply buddy!
ZionistWorldOrder 1 year ago
@cameronpoole
yeah.. he was NOT talking of the globalist elite, NOT the CIA, NOT the "octopus" (as murdered journalist Danny Casolero called it), NOT the drug-smuggeling, gun-running, assassinating, inner circle of corrupt people involved in government and gigantic corporations, NOT the military industrial complex, NOT the secret societies "Skull and Bones", "Jesuits" and so forth.. It was just the soviets. Well, phew!! Thanx, man. I guess we're all safe then!
weagainstthem 1 year ago
@cameronpoole @cameronpoole
yeah.. he was NOT talking of the globalist elite, NOT the CIA, NOT the "octopus" (as murdered journalist Danny Casolero called it), NOT the drug-smuggeling, gun-running, assassinating, inner circle of corrupt people involved in government and gigantic corporations, NOT the military industrial complex, NOT the secret societies "Skull and Bones", "Jesuits" and so forth.. It was just the soviets. Well, phew!! Thanx, man. I guess we're all safe then!
weagainstthem 1 year ago
@cameronpoole LOL if he was talkin about the russians.. then why say.. i do not intend to permit.. to the extent its in my control....
he was the president... of the u.s.a not russia,...thats what he could control.... i swear some people on hear what they want to.. or are just plain stupid.
dylemmadnb 1 year ago
@cameronpoole Kennedy was talking about the military industrial complex, the USSR was not a secret society, and if you think that he was.. you are simply brainwashed in my opinion.
Klaus1386 11 months ago
@Klaus1386
You fool!
Again, I recommend you actually learn some history before you make such stupid generalisations.
Pepotamo1985 11 months ago
@Pepotamo1985 An opinion is not a generlisation, as it is not a broad statement, and I am entitled to it.. take a seat over there, the pointy cap that reads moron is available just for you.
Klaus1386 11 months ago
@Klaus1386
Erm...you presented your (stultifyingly ill-informed) opinion as fact. The USSR WAS a secret society, and I recommend you do a tiny bit of reading up on the nature of the USSR during the Cold War before you say something so fucking stupid.
You could also listen to this speech in its full, unexpurgated form - it's littered with references to Russia, the Cold War, and Communism. Then your 'opinion' might have a leg to stand on.
Pepotamo1985 11 months ago
@Pepotamo1985 Of-course he was talking about the USSR jeess what are you guys smoking? - I want some! You are missing the MAIN point of his speech: What's the GOAL of fighting evil by becoming evil. What's the point of fighting closed societies by loosing our freedoms along the way?
He, like Eisenhower warned about the danger, of destroying our democracy with the excuse of security. Jfk is showing you the Moon and you stare at the finger but meanwhile America is becoming a militaristic society.
kousoulides 11 months ago
@kousoulides
I agree...Klaus, on the other hand, does not. Because he's an idiot.
It's ironic that Kennedy uses the phrase 'expand its meaning' in this speech when the meaning of this very speech has been expanded (in the cretinous mind of net conspiracy fools) on the basis of Kennedy's use of the term 'secret society'.
Pepotamo1985 11 months ago
@Pepotamo1985 Let them chase the "secret societies" and let those assholes in Washington, do whatever they like..
Here, give more trillions to the Banks.
Here, give more trillions to the Army.
Oh jee, we are going bankrupt, There is no money left for retirement, what? pension money? I don't see any money.. What? You just gave them to me? .. nah... I can't recall that.. Oh, Look a squirrel!
kousoulides 11 months ago
@Pepotamo1985 No.. the USSR was a society that emphasized (and brutally enforced) secrecy, not a secret society.. please, learn to comprehend before you sprech.
If you and I were to create a club, secretly which moved our own goals forward at the expense of others, and maintained its secrecy, slowly expanding said club with like minded individuals, THAT would be a secret society, not a society which is secretive.
Certainly the bits about censorship can apply to either a NWO or the USSR.
Klaus1386 11 months ago
@Klaus1386 The USSR was frequently referred to by academics and politicians alike throughout the Cold War as a 'secret' or 'closed' society in essays, books and internal memos. This is a common term used by political theorists to describe countries which don't have a free press etc. (North Korea et al). Funnily enough, this speech in full contains numerous overt references to Russia, Communism, the USSR and the Cold War.
The term 'society' has several meanings in English too.
Pepotamo1985 11 months ago
@cameronpoole He described how closed societies like the USSR work. But he also accused a part of the US government for acting like the USSR. (keeping secrets and conspiring behind closed doors for the so called "good" of the country.) just like closed societies do. Open societies keep no secrets nor they use undemocratic procedures etc. JFK afraid that America was becoming more and more like the monster he was trying to defeat, with the oligarchs controlling all aspects of the government.
kousoulides 11 months ago
Actually I don't think Kennedy was planning on pulling us out and Nixon was basically forced into doing so by Kissinger and the public. Its all messed up. Does anyone know when this was recorded? I'm sure he was murdered for saying something like this in public. Its strange that LBJ didn't pull us out because he for civil rights and stuff like that. I think he wanted to win the war and didn't want to be the first president to loose one, so he kept us in it for political reasons.
y2kgeezus 1 year ago
@y2kgeezus If LBJ had ended Vietnam he would not have been the first American president to loose a war. I have no idea where this idea that the Vietnam war was our first loss comes from.
SirNewt 1 year ago
@SirNewt What wars did we loose before Vietnam?
y2kgeezus 1 year ago
AWSOME! Im cutting and pasting this one great work!
LIBERTYDOGG77 1 year ago
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girard1973 2 years ago
lol was most likely the secret service that shot him ya fool.lol
djgk2003 2 years ago
i knew they killed hi,, him and marilyn saw u.f.o too,, both died coincidently,, before they got chance to say anything haha
djgk2003 2 years ago
Kennedy was an average President. Could he have been great? Maybe. But he made many mistakes. The biggest on the say he was shot. He never listened to the secret service.
TELEVISIONARCHIVES 2 years ago
And just who do you rank as a good or great president?
southsieed 2 years ago
We've never had a great President. Kennedy the "legend' doesn't go with the facts. He was careless and that led to his death.Read "An Unfinished Life: John F. Kennedy, 1917-1963
He was having sex with Ellen Rometsch, a suspected East German spy. Not the angel and good president that the legend created.
TELEVISIONARCHIVES 2 years ago
She may have been a double agent? So he screwed around, he was only human.Dont base your whole view on a subject on one book. Read many.
southsieed 2 years ago