i've read the comments on all the fire truck crash videos that i have watched. and some people are blaming it on the driver's of the fire trucks. what they dont understand is you cant just stop something that weighs inexses of 30 tons and holding anywhere between 500 to 1000 gallons of water.
@20cricket09 I have since done research on it and I fully agree with you. They are tanks of trucks. But the thing I don't agree with in the video is the flip end over end. Unless they were coming from a call empty, which is unlikely, it is very unlikely to do that with all that weight of water and equipment. I'm not saying its impossible but I'd have to see it to believe something like that.
It is unlikely to flip end over end but it is not unlikely to be coming from a call empty when we are on a fire Scene the water in your tank can actually go pretty quickly and even when on a scene if we dont have a hydrant near by we will have to go fill up the tank multiple times. Then if it is empty when we leave the call we fill back up when we get to the station
@BoTMSapper. Yea. That's true. We have a 1987 3D apparatus pumper and the tanks are in the side locker. I stand corrected. But we do agree on it doesn't take but a second to put the scba on whether it's a Scott air pack or an MSA.
Oh and there is no way in hell that aerial flipped end over end. Maybe a roll. But unlikely. The apparatus ladder would not still be on the engine. That truck weighs around 100,000 lbs. No way it flipped end over end.
@Altarve4107 they weigh 69500 empty...and that thing could roll 10 times and that ladder wont come off...grumman made a strong ass torque box that ladders mounted to
I am a firefighter and it is mandatory upon entering the engine to put on a seatbelt. Its hard to put an air pack on with the seatbelt on because for those of you that don't know, the air pack is built into the seat. But if we can't get it on due to the seat belt, it only takes a few seconds upon arrival on scene to tighten the straps up and go to work. So I agree, every firefighter must put on a seat belt. It may save your life.
@Altarve4107 I use to be a firefighter. The BA tanks are not built into every firetrucks seat... They are in a side locker, and still from the time we get there it only takes 30 seconds to have them on your back an as your bout to walk into a burning house, you already have the straps up tight and mask on with someone helping with getting the hose ready.
i lost my dad and uncle who were both firefighters i was five yrs old at the time and that's also when firefighters rode on the back of the engine do to only enough room upfront for two people they were comming into a curve and another car drove right out in front of them there was no where's for the engine driver to go but right which was an open field with a 4 foot ditch running beside it the truck rolled and trapped my dad and uncle under it they both died instantly please pull over
When my dad was a rookie (when firefighters were still aloud to ride on the back of the truck) an engine and ladder 4 were responding to a house fire. im not sure how they collided, but one firefighter on the back was pinned between the two trucks and killed. it turns out the house fire was just a false alarm. two girls called their neighbor as a prank and told the neighbor (at work) that her house was on fire
me too. As banged up as the ladder truck is, that pickup must be unreconizable. I'm also shocked no one died. The fire department will need a new ladder truck, thats for sure!
A Firefighters while responding to a infant not breathing where killed before they even got to the home; As they crossed two MAJOR bypasses a lady on her phone and doing make-up didn't pay attention to the ambulance coming up behind her leaving the ambulance stuck in the middle of the intersection getting struck by a semi truck on the passenger side.. KILLING MY UNCLE and injurying the driver very badly. I AM NOW A VOL. FIREFIGHTER, and i would like to ask to, please watch out for your firemen!
Sorry for you loss. That is an advantage of posting some of these video'son Youtube. Maybe it will wake people up to see what we deal with when people are not paying attention or even being purposefully stubborn.
@wrestler1010 Sorry about your uncle, but cannot blame lady.
You can't drive your ambulance into the path of a semi not allowing it opportunity to stop. Also, why did the ambulance not go around the stopped woman?
Sounds like she stopped for the ambulance. She was on cell phone ANDoing make up? Nonsense.
Don't know how fast the firetruck was going. The speed limit at that section of US 20 is 55. We do know that the driver of the pick up was cited and the firefighter was not. In other words, it was the pick up's fault.
All it needs is a little spit shine
BC1Dan 3 weeks ago
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BC1Dan 3 weeks ago
That'll buff out
gibsonguitar11 2 months ago
i've read the comments on all the fire truck crash videos that i have watched. and some people are blaming it on the driver's of the fire trucks. what they dont understand is you cant just stop something that weighs inexses of 30 tons and holding anywhere between 500 to 1000 gallons of water.
DeamonGRAVE 4 months ago
honor respect and strenght to the crew and the fallen brother, RIP :-( greez Chris FDNY
TheEMS41 7 months ago
I highly doubt that you could flip a fire truck end over end even if you tried. That witness was definitely a little excited.
WOAHthatwascool 11 months ago
The person driving it was also not a firefighter. It was a mechanic.
Eng23ineFFP 11 months ago
Justin Michaels recently started working for WEWS 5 in Cleveland.
Neuroglide 1 year ago
@20cricket09 I have since done research on it and I fully agree with you. They are tanks of trucks. But the thing I don't agree with in the video is the flip end over end. Unless they were coming from a call empty, which is unlikely, it is very unlikely to do that with all that weight of water and equipment. I'm not saying its impossible but I'd have to see it to believe something like that.
Altarve4107 1 year ago
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AmericanNinja85 11 months ago
@Altarve4107
It is unlikely to flip end over end but it is not unlikely to be coming from a call empty when we are on a fire Scene the water in your tank can actually go pretty quickly and even when on a scene if we dont have a hydrant near by we will have to go fill up the tank multiple times. Then if it is empty when we leave the call we fill back up when we get to the station
AmericanNinja85 11 months ago
@BoTMSapper. Yea. That's true. We have a 1987 3D apparatus pumper and the tanks are in the side locker. I stand corrected. But we do agree on it doesn't take but a second to put the scba on whether it's a Scott air pack or an MSA.
Altarve4107 1 year ago
Oh and there is no way in hell that aerial flipped end over end. Maybe a roll. But unlikely. The apparatus ladder would not still be on the engine. That truck weighs around 100,000 lbs. No way it flipped end over end.
Altarve4107 1 year ago
@Altarve4107 they weigh 69500 empty...and that thing could roll 10 times and that ladder wont come off...grumman made a strong ass torque box that ladders mounted to
20cricket09 1 year ago
I am a firefighter and it is mandatory upon entering the engine to put on a seatbelt. Its hard to put an air pack on with the seatbelt on because for those of you that don't know, the air pack is built into the seat. But if we can't get it on due to the seat belt, it only takes a few seconds upon arrival on scene to tighten the straps up and go to work. So I agree, every firefighter must put on a seat belt. It may save your life.
Altarve4107 1 year ago
@Altarve4107 I use to be a firefighter. The BA tanks are not built into every firetrucks seat... They are in a side locker, and still from the time we get there it only takes 30 seconds to have them on your back an as your bout to walk into a burning house, you already have the straps up tight and mask on with someone helping with getting the hose ready.
BoTMSapper 1 year ago
damn, it had to be a 1991 Grumman!
VFVFCo68 1 year ago
i lost my dad and uncle who were both firefighters i was five yrs old at the time and that's also when firefighters rode on the back of the engine do to only enough room upfront for two people they were comming into a curve and another car drove right out in front of them there was no where's for the engine driver to go but right which was an open field with a 4 foot ditch running beside it the truck rolled and trapped my dad and uncle under it they both died instantly please pull over
medic1296 1 year ago
When my dad was a rookie (when firefighters were still aloud to ride on the back of the truck) an engine and ladder 4 were responding to a house fire. im not sure how they collided, but one firefighter on the back was pinned between the two trucks and killed. it turns out the house fire was just a false alarm. two girls called their neighbor as a prank and told the neighbor (at work) that her house was on fire
AmbiguousAwesomeness 1 year ago
The apparatus could not have gone end-over-end if broadsiding a pickup truck.
It could veer and rolling.
Pickup driver drinking?
This ONE wore seat-belts? What about the rest of the firefighters?
Anyone know outcome of injured and why PU driveran STOP sign?
robertgift 1 year ago
Looks like it's fixable but better to get a new one.Cost a lot to fix it no doubt.
thresher4 1 year ago
I CANT BELIVE A PICK UP DID THAT
rossman1940 1 year ago
THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY 4 SCRAP METAL
rossman1940 1 year ago
@rossman1940 its for sale not scrapped
Tr2u1ck 1 year ago
@Tr2u1ck that is stupid who would buy that pos ?
rossman1940 1 year ago
@rossman1940 someone who wants to either buy parts or a long-ass rebuid..
Tr2u1ck 1 year ago
@Tr2u1ck that is nuts dont u think
rossman1940 1 year ago
@rossman1940 the long ass rebuild would cost a fortune.. id take parts.. (like the 8V92 Detroit engine)
Tr2u1ck 1 year ago
@Tr2u1ck same hear i gess
rossman1940 1 year ago
Dang that's crazy that no one passed. I'd like to see the other vehicle.
bigmlt3 2 years ago
me too. As banged up as the ladder truck is, that pickup must be unreconizable. I'm also shocked no one died. The fire department will need a new ladder truck, thats for sure!
arohn2007 2 years ago
A Firefighters while responding to a infant not breathing where killed before they even got to the home; As they crossed two MAJOR bypasses a lady on her phone and doing make-up didn't pay attention to the ambulance coming up behind her leaving the ambulance stuck in the middle of the intersection getting struck by a semi truck on the passenger side.. KILLING MY UNCLE and injurying the driver very badly. I AM NOW A VOL. FIREFIGHTER, and i would like to ask to, please watch out for your firemen!
wrestler1010 2 years ago
Sorry for you loss. That is an advantage of posting some of these video'son Youtube. Maybe it will wake people up to see what we deal with when people are not paying attention or even being purposefully stubborn.
570lib 2 years ago
@570lib agreed man.
paraawesome 1 year ago
@wrestler1010 Sorry about your uncle, but cannot blame lady.
You can't drive your ambulance into the path of a semi not allowing it opportunity to stop. Also, why did the ambulance not go around the stopped woman?
Sounds like she stopped for the ambulance. She was on cell phone ANDoing make up? Nonsense.
robertgift 1 year ago
How fast was the fire truck going? Holy smokes! To flip "end over end" and roll over, the truck had to be hauling!
flightjunkie250 3 years ago
Don't know how fast the firetruck was going. The speed limit at that section of US 20 is 55. We do know that the driver of the pick up was cited and the firefighter was not. In other words, it was the pick up's fault.
570lib 3 years ago
It so sad when people can't wait a minute
iluvyurbles 1 year ago
@570lib well, he was prolly doing 70, but the bunker gear prolly padded them a little, and the apparatus has a lot more momentum that a dinky pickup
joek0617 6 months ago
I talked to a family member of the fireman. The truck did not go "end over end" It did roll though. The witnesses got a little excited.
570lib 2 years ago
ya if that rig went end over end the ladder would prolly be worse
jao216 2 years ago
Also, he was not on an emergency run. He was returning from maintenance.
570lib 2 years ago
Is the truck fixable or do they need to get a whole new truck? Its obviously not drivable at this point
arohn2007 2 years ago
@570lib I doubted it went end over end also, first that truck wont endo and second, IF it did, the ladder would be gone. Roll over yes, endo, no.
bobcats330 1 month ago
man there is a $500,000 truck going to the junk pile. ouch
ramkidd123 3 years ago
500K Yeah right... Try 1.5-2 Million for a new ladder truck. Our department paid 550K for a used 98' Peirce, 85ft, several years ago.
GraxMan 2 years ago
Man, I hope the truck has good insurance.
drwn1 3 years ago