I should have known where this was headed as soon as the lecturer declared Lewis's ham-fisted Christ allegory Aslan to be one of the greatest literary achievements of all times. It only went downhill from there, right to the point where creationism was introduced as THE TRUTH and intellectuals were derided as arrogant nincompoops. Sure, there's no denying that Middle Earth is full of Christian symbolism. But this guy is just another evangelical fundy.
why try and find christ in everything you christians are close to crazy worship a man that is coming to kill everyone and you think your saved lmao you killed him
@deliberation01 jo I didnt watch this whole thing so don't know what hs saying but Jesus is def not coming back to kill everyone, there is no judgement day or rapture and Jesus loves you no matter what you've done he still wants to have a relationship with u :)
To make LOTR into an allegory ruins it. I don't want to think about Christ when reading it; it is not about Him. It's no more about Him than about the Pope: Saruman the White with his tower and orcs would make a good Pope-figure. It's a story, & a fine story - nothing more. To make it into Christian propaganda ruins it, is rotten literary criticism, shows ignorance of how to tell a story & shows that some Christians can't read books for what they are.
There is nothing wrong with reading this book in a secular way, but denying the christian subtext and influence is ridiculous:
LOTR is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out, practically all references to anything like 'religion', to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and the symbolism. -Tolkien
There is nothing wrong with reading this book in a secular way, but denying the christian subtext and influence is ridiculous:
LOTR is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out, practically all references to anything like 'religion', to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and the symbolism. -Tolkien
Bleurgh.
WilAwesome11 1 month ago
Tolkien did base some stories from the bible, thats true, but stop jabbering about christ....
Hugebull 1 month ago
is this actually serious? they are relating the bullshit of the bible to movies now?
theUKatheist 1 month ago
I should have known where this was headed as soon as the lecturer declared Lewis's ham-fisted Christ allegory Aslan to be one of the greatest literary achievements of all times. It only went downhill from there, right to the point where creationism was introduced as THE TRUTH and intellectuals were derided as arrogant nincompoops. Sure, there's no denying that Middle Earth is full of Christian symbolism. But this guy is just another evangelical fundy.
JaneDoelicious 2 months ago
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jamesstallman 2 months ago
Did you listen to the lecture? In the very first minute Kreeft points out that The Lord of the Rings is NOT an allegory.
ElmotheTaterEater 2 months ago
why try and find christ in everything you christians are close to crazy worship a man that is coming to kill everyone and you think your saved lmao you killed him
deliberation01 6 months ago
@deliberation01 jo I didnt watch this whole thing so don't know what hs saying but Jesus is def not coming back to kill everyone, there is no judgement day or rapture and Jesus loves you no matter what you've done he still wants to have a relationship with u :)
OrUcaaij 6 months ago
@deliberation01
To make LOTR into an allegory ruins it. I don't want to think about Christ when reading it; it is not about Him. It's no more about Him than about the Pope: Saruman the White with his tower and orcs would make a good Pope-figure. It's a story, & a fine story - nothing more. To make it into Christian propaganda ruins it, is rotten literary criticism, shows ignorance of how to tell a story & shows that some Christians can't read books for what they are.
5355vbxjbj76rvn 2 months ago
@5355vbxjbj76rvn
There is nothing wrong with reading this book in a secular way, but denying the christian subtext and influence is ridiculous:
LOTR is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out, practically all references to anything like 'religion', to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and the symbolism. -Tolkien
jamesstallman 2 months ago
@deliberation01
There is nothing wrong with reading this book in a secular way, but denying the christian subtext and influence is ridiculous:
LOTR is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out, practically all references to anything like 'religion', to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and the symbolism. -Tolkien
jamesstallman 2 months ago 2
One word mate! ERU
GodWarrior7771 11 months ago
@GodWarrior7771 Im just kidding lol, but yeah have you read the silmarillion?
GodWarrior7771 11 months ago
Interesting indeed
TheAmazingImbecile 2 years ago
thank you soooo much for posting this!!!
muertos06 3 years ago