try using a 31si. 200 amps at 14volts from 1900 rpm. needs 14 horsepower. im using a corolla diesel 2c engine but am going to run a separate ac gen head. ill post a vid soon. my only bug bear is that theres no way to hand start my engine.
@UBERKron Thanks for the info; I'll keep my eyes open for a 31si. Have you seen my newer videos of a water-cooled diesel engine driving an induction generator and an AC generator head?
@wow1022 Not so much. A single alternator can be made to put out 200 amps, but auto alternators are so inefficient that it would use the full 10 hp to do so. A regular AC generator head is much more efficient.
Check out my other videos. I have a couple more of this genny, and I am currently (no pun intended) working on an induction motor generator. Hopefully I will be uploading that one within the next week.
@benlovesdannii By red I assume you mean untaxed diesel. But when you say white, are you talking about road diesel, or biodiesel? And what kind of problem does it give? I have only run this one on red diesel and biodiesel.
@benlovesdannii Oh well. Red diesel is better for the injection pump, anyway. Plus, it's cheaper.
Of course, in some states it's illegal for them to sell you red diesel unless you are registered with the tax office as a farmer. I don't take my money to states like that.
@wiredforstereo It is a generic Chinese clone of the Yanmar L100 engine. I bought it from a company called Carroll Stream Motor Company. They are online; the search engines will find them. List price is a bit over 600 USD. Besides this 10 hp version, they also have at least one smaller size.
@zoni3 Yes, but not at 40 amps. The field would have to be controlled with resistors or a rheostat, to keep the output to a level the 1KW motor could power.
I have an old 1937 Metropolitan Vickers dynamo that puts out 12V at 1160RPM, I guess your altenator here is being driven at a similar speed or a little more?
@steamwally I'll check out your video. I have a 6/1, but it's an Indian listeroid, not a real Lister.
This alternator is turning ~9000 rpm (3600 engine rpm, 5" engine pulley, ~2" alternator pulley). Automotive alternators generally need around 5000 rpm for full output. Their only advantages are low cost, availability and simplicity. They are incredibly inefficient.
Ah right, I thought about pairing my 1954 Mk12 Villiers with a car dynamo, prehaps an old Lucas one from a Mini or Morris Minor but havnt done it yet. I did think about an alternator but if they need to run at that speed then it's a no no for my purpose.
Interesting video anyhow, nice to see peoples creations working.
@steamwally Actually, it would work OK. On your video of the Villiers running the dynamo, it appears that you have a 100mm pulley on the engine. At 2500 engine rpm, that would give approximately 5000 alternator rpm with the typical 50mm alternator pulley. You would just need to limit field current, as the 1.5 hp engine would not handle the full output of the alternator.
Well the problem is my garden is suronded my other gardens and houses so i can't have anything too noisy. I need something that can trickle charge batteries for lighting with the engine at tick over, or not more than 900-1000RPM.
The big stationary engines and dynamo are all very well but the space and weight make them impracticle for running a few lights.
@steamwally It may be worth experimenting anyway. That would still be around 2000 alternator rpm; it would probably still output some current but would need more field current to do so. Max field current is about 6 amperes. Another possibility is removing the field windings and substituting magnets to make it a PMA. There is at least one seller on ebay who custom-builds alternator-based PMAs to spec.
2000RPM is much better, with an engine with a 14" flywheel I should be able to gear that down no problem, the engines only run at 700RPM with heaps of tourque!
I might go to local scrappy some time and see if he has any dynamos or alternators that would be of use. I'll let you know if I do build something.
There a bit fast running for what i want, I'm not a fan of thrashy small aircooleds, I've had several but they have normaly driven me up the wall! I sold the little Villiers I was planning to use and bought a 3.4HP diesel Petter which revs alot lower than the Villiers. Thats going to be built onto a pump set with a 30LPM pump but I might put an alternator on with it. I'll post a video of that when done.
@Mpkauto No. I have heard some people who sell them recommend against it, but they are probably just covering their assets. This is well-processed biodiesel though, not straight vegoil which some people erroneously refer to as biodiesel.
There should be a little black rubber plug to the right of the decompressor lever. To make this easy to start, just pull that plug and pour in a few drops of engine oil. She'll fire on the first pull if you do that.
@MrLessismore Thanks, but I don't think mine has that. Is it on the opposite side of the valve cover? Because there is a boss there, but it is not drilled. I would like to add that feature, because it would be nice to have.
It does however have a heated intake screen like a Cummins.
I'm not sure about the brand name, but it is a CS186E, which is a Chinese clone of the Yanmar L100. 406cc, 10 hp. Supposedly, all parts are compatible with the L100.
I got it from an Ebay seller called "Carroll Stream Motor Co."
Roughly how long would it take to charge a dead battery. I know all battery's are different but say they are12v deep cell rv/marine battery's. Thinking of banking some battery's for an inverter? Great Video!
A group 27 deep cycle battery has a capacity of 105 to 120 amp/hours. By controlling the field and hence charge rate, you should be able to bulk charge at about 30 amps for about 3 hours, then drop it to 10 amps for a couple more hours and get pretty close to a full charge. It's hard to fully charge a lead-acid battery in under about 6 hours; it's more a factor of the battery's ability to accept the charge than the alternator's ability to deliver it.
It's possible, but you wouldn't gain anything over a single high-amp alternator. A single 140 amp alternator at full output will use just about all the power this 10 HP engine will produce, due to the inefficiency of automotive alternators. A permanent magnet generator or an AC synchronous (115/230) alternator would be a better choice.
Very cool idea. A home built generator using an automotive alternator.
Best idea, buy a Honda generator, or a cheap Chinese generator, for the next ice storm. But not nearly as fun or educational, as building your own.
With the addition of an inverter, 120v AC power can be generated.
In an emergency, a 2000 watt inverter, a pair of jumper cables, and a car, can power your refridgerator or furnance for many hours.
buzz60016 6 months ago
Good thing he had his pistol with him....
BlameRepublicans 7 months ago
try using a 31si. 200 amps at 14volts from 1900 rpm. needs 14 horsepower. im using a corolla diesel 2c engine but am going to run a separate ac gen head. ill post a vid soon. my only bug bear is that theres no way to hand start my engine.
UBERKron 7 months ago
@UBERKron Thanks for the info; I'll keep my eyes open for a 31si. Have you seen my newer videos of a water-cooled diesel engine driving an induction generator and an AC generator head?
Possumlivingdotcom 7 months ago
you need to get a couple more alternators, that engine can put out way more power
wow1022 9 months ago
@wow1022 Not so much. A single alternator can be made to put out 200 amps, but auto alternators are so inefficient that it would use the full 10 hp to do so. A regular AC generator head is much more efficient.
Check out my other videos. I have a couple more of this genny, and I am currently (no pun intended) working on an induction motor generator. Hopefully I will be uploading that one within the next week.
Possumlivingdotcom 9 months ago
it sounds better when its off.
PX125E 10 months ago
thats the same engine as the one in the jet wash at work there good on red soon as we put white in it no ware near as good
benlovesdannii 1 year ago
@benlovesdannii By red I assume you mean untaxed diesel. But when you say white, are you talking about road diesel, or biodiesel? And what kind of problem does it give? I have only run this one on red diesel and biodiesel.
Possumlivingdotcom 1 year ago
@Possumlivingdotcom white road diesel its dosent give it enuf power but wen we use red it gives it full power
benlovesdannii 1 year ago
@benlovesdannii Oh well. Red diesel is better for the injection pump, anyway. Plus, it's cheaper.
Of course, in some states it's illegal for them to sell you red diesel unless you are registered with the tax office as a farmer. I don't take my money to states like that.
Possumlivingdotcom 1 year ago
Just like Maker Faire. Lots of guys trying to get some rotary machine involved in some biodiesel power generation to start & not having much luck.
heroineworshipper 1 year ago
What are the details of your engine? Make, model, price, power etc. Thanks.
wiredforstereo 1 year ago
@wiredforstereo It is a generic Chinese clone of the Yanmar L100 engine. I bought it from a company called Carroll Stream Motor Company. They are online; the search engines will find them. List price is a bit over 600 USD. Besides this 10 hp version, they also have at least one smaller size.
Possumlivingdotcom 1 year ago
can 3000 rpm , 1kw motor move the 40 amp alternater , and can it charge battery??
zoni3 1 year ago
@zoni3 Yes, but not at 40 amps. The field would have to be controlled with resistors or a rheostat, to keep the output to a level the 1KW motor could power.
Possumlivingdotcom 1 year ago
@Possumlivingdotcom thank you for the reply :)
zoni3 1 year ago
Very interesting video!
I have an old 1937 Metropolitan Vickers dynamo that puts out 12V at 1160RPM, I guess your altenator here is being driven at a similar speed or a little more?
I have a video of my Lister driving the dynamo.
steamwally 1 year ago
@steamwally I'll check out your video. I have a 6/1, but it's an Indian listeroid, not a real Lister.
This alternator is turning ~9000 rpm (3600 engine rpm, 5" engine pulley, ~2" alternator pulley). Automotive alternators generally need around 5000 rpm for full output. Their only advantages are low cost, availability and simplicity. They are incredibly inefficient.
Possumlivingdotcom 1 year ago
Ah right, I thought about pairing my 1954 Mk12 Villiers with a car dynamo, prehaps an old Lucas one from a Mini or Morris Minor but havnt done it yet. I did think about an alternator but if they need to run at that speed then it's a no no for my purpose.
Interesting video anyhow, nice to see peoples creations working.
steamwally 1 year ago
@steamwally Actually, it would work OK. On your video of the Villiers running the dynamo, it appears that you have a 100mm pulley on the engine. At 2500 engine rpm, that would give approximately 5000 alternator rpm with the typical 50mm alternator pulley. You would just need to limit field current, as the 1.5 hp engine would not handle the full output of the alternator.
Possumlivingdotcom 1 year ago
Well the problem is my garden is suronded my other gardens and houses so i can't have anything too noisy. I need something that can trickle charge batteries for lighting with the engine at tick over, or not more than 900-1000RPM.
The big stationary engines and dynamo are all very well but the space and weight make them impracticle for running a few lights.
steamwally 1 year ago
@steamwally It may be worth experimenting anyway. That would still be around 2000 alternator rpm; it would probably still output some current but would need more field current to do so. Max field current is about 6 amperes. Another possibility is removing the field windings and substituting magnets to make it a PMA. There is at least one seller on ebay who custom-builds alternator-based PMAs to spec.
Possumlivingdotcom 1 year ago
2000RPM is much better, with an engine with a 14" flywheel I should be able to gear that down no problem, the engines only run at 700RPM with heaps of tourque!
I might go to local scrappy some time and see if he has any dynamos or alternators that would be of use. I'll let you know if I do build something.
Thanks for that information, much apreciated : )
steamwally 1 year ago
@steamwally Get a small Honda Generator
gokartspeeder 1 year ago
No way! Noisy modern tripe......I'm affraid I'm not a fan of small petrol engines that rev to about 4000RPM.....they are relaible though.
steamwally 1 year ago
@steamwally Hondas are notoriously quiet, but I cannot force you to buy anything. Points for the build though.
gokartspeeder 1 year ago
There a bit fast running for what i want, I'm not a fan of thrashy small aircooleds, I've had several but they have normaly driven me up the wall! I sold the little Villiers I was planning to use and bought a 3.4HP diesel Petter which revs alot lower than the Villiers. Thats going to be built onto a pump set with a 30LPM pump but I might put an alternator on with it. I'll post a video of that when done.
Merry christmas,
Phill.
steamwally 1 year ago
Пока ты дёргал БАТАРЕЯ уже зарядилась!!!!!!!
;-)
zhila29 1 year ago
@zhila29 Нет, это не загружается , пока я не активировали поля катушки.
Possumlivingdotcom 1 year ago
If you let these run out of fuel, it is advisable to bleed the injection pump first before starting it.
douro20 1 year ago
@douro20 I did, I just didn't show it in the video. Fortunately, these are easy to bleed.
Possumlivingdotcom 1 year ago
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propanemower13 1 year ago
i think this engine has enaugh power for 4 alternators
ChRiStHeTuNeR1993 2 years ago
i have a similar engine, did you have to modify it to run biodiesel?
Mpkauto 2 years ago
@Mpkauto No. I have heard some people who sell them recommend against it, but they are probably just covering their assets. This is well-processed biodiesel though, not straight vegoil which some people erroneously refer to as biodiesel.
Possumlivingdotcom 2 years ago
There should be a little black rubber plug to the right of the decompressor lever. To make this easy to start, just pull that plug and pour in a few drops of engine oil. She'll fire on the first pull if you do that.
MrLessismore 2 years ago
@MrLessismore Thanks, but I don't think mine has that. Is it on the opposite side of the valve cover? Because there is a boss there, but it is not drilled. I would like to add that feature, because it would be nice to have.
It does however have a heated intake screen like a Cummins.
Possumlivingdotcom 2 years ago
Nice video! That's my kinda tinkerin'.
What brand is the engine and where did you get it?
AGreyMan 2 years ago
I'm not sure about the brand name, but it is a CS186E, which is a Chinese clone of the Yanmar L100. 406cc, 10 hp. Supposedly, all parts are compatible with the L100.
I got it from an Ebay seller called "Carroll Stream Motor Co."
Possumlivingdotcom 2 years ago
Thank you Sir!
AGreyMan 2 years ago
Roughly how long would it take to charge a dead battery. I know all battery's are different but say they are12v deep cell rv/marine battery's. Thinking of banking some battery's for an inverter? Great Video!
4vermont 2 years ago
A group 27 deep cycle battery has a capacity of 105 to 120 amp/hours. By controlling the field and hence charge rate, you should be able to bulk charge at about 30 amps for about 3 hours, then drop it to 10 amps for a couple more hours and get pretty close to a full charge. It's hard to fully charge a lead-acid battery in under about 6 hours; it's more a factor of the battery's ability to accept the charge than the alternator's ability to deliver it.
Possumlivingdotcom 2 years ago
Thanks Possum
4vermont 2 years ago
nice man
richthecardude94 2 years ago
Why the revolver?expecting a possum attack are you?
cplmaccas 2 years ago
Yeah, ya gotta watch out for those jokers around here! Possums on the half shell, too.
It's also kind of a political statement, to let people know that guns aren't only for cops and bad guys, despite what one sees on TV.
Possumlivingdotcom 2 years ago
yup... no tellin' when those two-legged varmints will walk up on ya.. :D
Nza420 2 years ago
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DieselsAndDiodes 2 years ago
Thanks! I love tinkering with all kinds of small engines, especially diesels.
Possumlivingdotcom 2 years ago
Hmm, could you hook up miltiple alernator to it?
It looks like a hell of a over kill for that samll alternator.
nMAPPER 2 years ago
It's possible, but you wouldn't gain anything over a single high-amp alternator. A single 140 amp alternator at full output will use just about all the power this 10 HP engine will produce, due to the inefficiency of automotive alternators. A permanent magnet generator or an AC synchronous (115/230) alternator would be a better choice.
Possumlivingdotcom 2 years ago