This video shows that 911 Truth consists of a handful of kooks arguing on the sidewalk. They can't attract anyone to their rallies. Hits on truther web sites have plummeted. This "movement" has had no impact on anything. The quack demolition theories have sunk like a stone in the scientific world.
Hey kooks, maybe you should join up with your soulmates in the moon landing denial and holocaust denial camps. Maybe then you'll get a decent turn-out at your shitty little rallies.
Yeah now factor the dynamic load with the static load, and the asymmetrical shift of force due to a big gaping hole in the tower. Bunch of crackpots, there's close up footage of the collapse, you can see the damn building fail. Do you know how loud demolitions are? You can hear them miles away. There were definitely no explosives. If you can watch live footage of an event, as well as listen to witnesses that were on the scene, and still have these conspiracy theories, you're a nut.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Yeah not only that, but they're watching edited videos of interviews, that were of course edited by conspiracy sites. The guy who made those comments, he wasn't factoring in the fuel load, and wasn't factoring burning jet fuel, and wasn't referring to the the ability of the structure to hold when the beams above were not square with the beams below. It's laughable that this guy thinks 40 commercial airliners could fly into the towers at 450mph with fully loaded fuel.
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong In fact, 43 airplanes could have, according to him, which would still be 100 tons below capacity. lol....does anybody else think this is bizarre? If you look at the "engineers for truth" and compare them to the population of engineers just in this country alone, they're like 1/4 of 1% of engineers. It's laughable. I actually work in that area and I was thinking of getting a petition passed around to ban them from the area on anniversaries. We're completely sick of them.
Start by Googling '93 WTC Bombing Admitted Inside Job' and understand that their pasty for 'the drill' suspected something and recorded the Feds saying that they gave him a fake bomb and a truck for 'the drill' when he found out it was a real bomb instead. Its admitted to by the lying main stream military/banker whore media, so then maybe you can believe it since the TV says so.
Why would they bring two buildings down that were completely full of asbestos that they were paying increasing fines every ten years since the day they were finished starting at $10 million, the $20 million, and they were just about ready to have to pay $30 million for 2001 - 2011.
There is the financial reason the sheep could understand that he forgot to bring up. Great job though guys.
You're a fucking moron and you didn't even watch the video. If you did you'd know that 911Truthers now have 5TB that prove their case and debunkers have nothing, not even a corpse to produce of Osama Bin Laden, who has been reported dead at least ten different times to date.
@muskduh from what i've seen of those 5 terabytes, it's just sources that truthers are using to rehash theories already suggested. plus it doesn't "prove" their case, from what i've seen, it just gives them more videos and text to take out of context. maybe instead of claiming that the amount of "evidence" you have proves your point, you should be telling me about the facts the evidence proves? or are you content just knowing that there is a whole 5 terabytes of it, no matter how irrelevant?
that's my point. i have nothing to prove to anyone. the burden of proof has now shifted to YOU in the mainstream debate, and Truthers now have a rock solid case that you are simply too lazy or intellectually paralyzed to investigate for yourself. The main point is that the videos have been covered up for TEN YEARS and yet you continue to claim there is nothing to investigate. Fuck you.
@muskduh ok but from what i've seen, the previously "covered up" footage, as i've already stated, has been very similar evidence to that of which they have already used to make a case e.g people likening the plane crash/collapse of the tower to a bomb exploding, the collapse of wtc7 looking similar to that of as controlled demolition etc. and truthers have never had as rock solid case, they've had delusions.
The cover-up is the proof you fool! Why would they censor 5000 Gigabytes of videos that show eyewitness testimonies of explosives and other evidence for ten years unless it proved the inside job? It's debunkers who are delusional. You've never been able to prove that Osama Bin Laden did the attacks, that he survived magically for ten years, and that he was killed recently by Obama. Nothing that the debunkers have said has turned out to be true, but our case keeps growing.
@muskduh who were they "covered up" by previously? why were they released? where were they released?
also what have you seen that is "classified"? when i searched the 5TB of unclassified footage all the examples were news broadcasts, interviews and on the ground footage. all of which would not be owned by the government, but by the people who originally recorded them. And your last statement is simply wrong, there have been so many tests and analyses done to prove so many truther theories false
Nothing has been debunked. You have simply wasted the past ten years of your life believing in lies. I am an eyewitness and colleague of many first responders and survivors. There is no sense of people like me even speaking with people like you.
By the way that's me in the video and 80% of the comments here agree with me. You're in the minority and it doesn't feel too good, does it? Sorry, but there is no proof that Al-Qaeda or Bin Laden had anything to do with this. Have a nice time believing in lies. This is not a matter of opinion.
@muskduh nice work on being in a video! and it's a pretty neutral feeling being the minority on a video with under 7,000 views i must say. there is plenty of proof of both al qaeda and bin laden being involved, much more so in fact than there is of the american government having anything to do with the attacks. could you please answer my initial questions in my previous comment?
@bayswaterband There is also plenty of proof that All CIA Duh and Usama Bin Laden work for the Feds. Try using your brain instead of just repeating what you are told by an illegal banking scam government that has proven to us a thousand times over that all they do is lie.
Your first mistake is believing that this is your government. A government of, by and for the people. You are online so all the info you need is right at your fingertips.
@muskduh What case!? If people decide not to believe you then all of a sudden theyre part of some brainwashing plot just because they didn't agree with the chance of it being an inside job.Why is there no possibility that you're wrong?The white sweatshirt guy brings up a good point about a pancake effect but they just blow it off because they assume that they are the only ones who are right.Here's a real question for you
The WTC was the American economy's heart. Highly doubt that any oil gained from afghanistan/Iraq would make up for the money lost in damages both to buildings and economy. As for the new world order? I don't see any signs of new world order ten years on, do any of you?
@bayswaterband What about the patriot act? What about warrantless wiretapping, torture, wars of empire under the guise of "policing the world" and "spreading democracy"? TSA's abuse of power constantly in the headlines, and tea party activists being labeled as terrorists? Where are you that you're not seeing tyranny or any of this stuff? I'd like to live there.
@Anon8420 I really don't see how hijacking 4 american planes, destroying 3 buildings and killing more than 2 and a half thousand people is tea party activism. And what about the patriot act? A quite extreme decision by a less than intelligent president? Hardly a conspiracy. Sure, leaders of nations are power hungry, that's evident all throughout history. But for such an elaborate and massive scaled conspiracy to exist? They could've just had "Osama" kill 20 americans and invaded.
this guy doesnt really know much hes just emotionally offended by the idea of his government thinking of him as a piece of meat to be used, abused, killed and dispensed of. gleen dude has knowledge, go on 9/11 truth, we will win!
Ive got a question for conspiracy theorists, if you tthink you know the truth about 9/11 and exposing the NWO and all this shit, why isnt the NWO hunting you down? Why is Dylan Avery, Alex Jones, Richard Gage etc. all alive? If they are foiling this great scheme of the NWO? Why isn't the NWO killing them off?
@pimper347 the government IS hunting me down and they're surveiling you, too! Just because you didn't get the memo doesn't mean they aren't harassing us. Also, killing prominent people will only underscore the importance of what they're doing, and since the NWO is so arrogant and out in the open now, they don't care about being exposed and they're going full steam ahead with their agenda. Besides, if we're truthers and conspiracy theorists, doesn't that make you liars and coincidence theorists?
@muskduh No, it doesn't, I used to be a firm believer in the NWO truther movement like you, but, the reason you think they are trying to unify us under one rule is because of the federal reserve, and the possibility of an amero being put into play in the next few decades. I dont agree with an amero for the most part, but even if this happens, it doesnt mean that our countries will become unified, europe did it with the euro and they're still seperate countries.
@pimper347 you obv havent reviewed the list of 9/11 witness/truthers that have died since 9/11. barry jennings, bertha champagne, kenneth johannesmen..just to name a few.
if one person gets killed you can have investigation for as long as it takes to find the real killer but if its the killer thats in charge of the investigation you will never find them. you need a real independent investigation to 911 as soon as possible.
We ask the questions! Let a serious investigation give us the answers! The asshole in the bandana can kiss my American ass! WE WANT A NEW INVESTIGATION!
Take a look at Scholars for 9/11 truth ,Architects, lawyers.N,Y,F. D. etc . for 9/11 truth .
They are not stupid people they just want justice .
The evidence for a government cover up is collossal - It is time the criminals are put out of power-
It's like completely evil . Like having Adolf Hitler back from hell the TRUTH WILL BE KNOWN - the sooner we get these monsters behind bars the better - oh by the way googe MICHAEL MEACHER -on youtube - He states the case for a new inquiry so wel
I agree The Cow in the Pink that is running her mouth makes no sense what so ever I will admit for the longest time I never thought about 911 could have been an inside job but now that i have done some research and watched many videos and read many articles I now firmly agree that 911 was and could be an inside job and that many people are to scared to admit it because they are scared they will end up like all the other eye witnesses that jsut ended up dead
"dude, seriously forget it's over. the fuckin buildings fell down and a lot of people died. it doesn't matter who the fuck did it, really" THE OFFICIAL STORY DEFENDERS WILL EAT THEIR OWN WORDS.
At the end he actually says "it doesn't matter who did it." We've heard it before. This is a normal part of admitting. Try not to react... let the words linger and they will have their maximum effect. Nice work.
Some truthers are very, very poor teachers. I wonder if a student needs extra help, do teachers call their student's names in private? When the public doesn't "get it" and are challenging us, they're essentially saying "I don't learn that way, find another way to reach me". Imagine a teacher just sitting at the desk talking, no textbook open to page__
no chalkboard notation. Just talk. This was a great opportunity to teach the observers, they're the ones who lose when we show up unprepared.
I've only been awake since 2005, but I've seen too many of these lopsided exchanges, so I NEVER leave my house without proof! Whatever you intend to discuss, you'd better have photos and documents to back it up...we are visual creatures. We've gotta' do better than just:"Here watch this dvd"- I have no visual illustrations with me, but take my word, I can show you the things I've cited at the library. Don't come to GZ unprepared. Don't just say it, DISPLAY IT!
This was horrible tough to watch. Hopefully, this is firm reminder/warning to all "truthers" to never, ever leave home unprepared for a debate...which this was not, but had an informed debunker showed up this would have been worse! Never tell someone come with me to the library, I can show you several articles about foreknowledge. If you know you're coming to GZ bring the damn articles with you!!! As well as a computer or portable dvd player, so you can show the clips of the buildings 'falling'
@PainlessTragedy Give me your e-mail address, I'll also send you the reply I got from the CIA and JFK Special Warfare School when I filed a FOIA seeking access to the videos.
the bandana guy is a plant for the cia. he states : " it's over the buildings fell down lets move on" do not waste your time debating with those who still think jfk was shot by Oswald a single shooter.
"The agency actually did make a video purporting to show Osama bin Laden and his cronies sitting around a campfire swigging bottles of liquor and savoring their conquests with boys, one of the former CIA officers recalled, chuckling at the memory. The actors were drawn from “some of us darker-skinned employees,” he said."
ask them questions, after questions, nudge them into the direction of having to research to be able to then refute your points...for these people they have to research and arrive at the conclusions on their own, and the only way to achieve that is not through a shouting match, but making them understand that they are not even remotely educated on the subject. A person that can barely count to 10 has no place in arguing calculus with a professor. They need to become aware first.
the best methodology to use with people that are ignorant but claim to know all the answers is ask them if they know what nano thermite is, or what wtc7 is, or able danger, or pnac, etc, etc..you can't shout small facts at people that are ignorant, that just doesn't matter, what you must do is convince them that they know nothing, because someone that is angry and stubborn will then go back and research and then hopefully wake up.
QUESTION: "You fly a plane made of aluminum into the building at twice the speed of a dragster...what do you think is gonna happen?"
ANSWER: "The same thing that happened to the much weaker Empire State building when a 10 ton B-25 slammed into the 79th floor in 1945, tearing a hole 18 feet wide and 20 feet high. What do you think happened to the Empire State building when it was struck by a bomber?
I'm a firefighter from the Uk & I've studied 9/11 for 7 years. It was blatantly an inside job. I think the best way to approach idiots like this is just to show they the heat signature satelite photos & ask them how hot spots hotter than jet fuels maximum burning point have been detected under all 3 buildings at ground zero, hotter than jet fuels maximum burning point days later. They wont be able to, theres no point in arguing on little points with these people because they clearly know nadda!
Would it not have been far, far, better for the 9/11 truth people to have set up a video screen complete with speakers and just show the crowd what their message is than to spend so much time and energy trying to explain why it is impossible for the 3 buildings to have collapsed the way they did?
Why do people seem to think that speaking a million words instead would be somehow better than showing just one video to the intended audience??
The "metal fire" clip at my channel shows photos of a thermite reaction at the 81st floor of the south tower. But there are never any photos or video shown at ground zero--just words.
@Bernadotte01 I used to have considerable doubts, not of the official story of 9/11 which I have long ago disbelieved, but rather my doubts were concerning the mechanism of destruction of the three collapsed World Trade Center buildings which various scientists and engineers have tried to explain.
I would urge people to do a search for "TheBareDritt" on YouTube and view all 26 parts of the video on his channel and then decide for themselves whether or not the explanation offered is plausible.
@hamba2han You're absolutely correct. Unfortunately, they don't all work together, and they are not all always prepared. If Glenn came prepared, the 'exchange' wouldn't have lasted as long as it did. Hopefully, something is learned from this video.
I think this was handled incorrectly. The man wasn't MAD at you guys. He was MAD that his worldview was crumbling in its own footprint. Otherwise...great debate.
Yes, it does matter. In conclusion, aging biker in white sweater (AB) says .."what does it matter, the building is down, people died, its over." Glenn, although cool headed, is dealing with someone that just wants to sleep at nite. Thats all.
Why bother with the debate to convince people like AB who can't accept facts, the evidence is undeniable! It makes us all sick, and we wish it wasn't true. But this splinter is working it's way to the surface. In the process, it hurts and it festers!
I'd just like to get an idea of where everybody is... If you believe there was a government cover up on 911 eleven please answer yes and if you believe that al queada did it please answer no. Thanks
This paid CIA or Gvmnt employee/clown/actor portraying himself as a "regular white trash dude" has a hard task to perform! He sounds way too smart and polite to be a real white trash dude. I don't buy it! want my money back! LOL! The CIA should offer better acting classes to some of their employees if they don't already, or send them to get some training in hollywood!
We are selling something to people who have the inability to hear what we are saying. A reevaluation of what we are doing needs to take place if we wish for others to be able to see through the illusions that confront them. This mans denial to glen's expression of truth was an indication of a very deep rooted fear within himself. Also if glen had been aware of this mans inability to hear, and understood why that inablity existed, and adjusted accordingly things would have been different.
@WeAreChangeQueensNY I agree. I think Glenn did a great job of staying cool headed and level while this guy talks to him like hes a 4 year old, all the while a crazy lady is screaming about NASA and other nonsensical garbage. He's well spoken, but there were a few points that could have been made stronger, there are better answers to "Why?" - like the loss of civil liberties and the two wars, drugs from Afghanistan, but its not easy to do this on the street with a lunatic screaming in your ear
@WeAreChangeQueensNY It just takes little steps before we can walk with confidence. 'Loose Change' came out 5 years ago, another couple of years or so there's going to be huge numbers of people more aware.
The more people believe in something the more believable it becomes.
The educational system is responsible...The product of these institutions is...an individual who does not think, does not assess. It is necessary to help them...so they can see again
Foundation of lies built by Someone who has so much money and are so elite that they could cover there tracks 100% and make all people who go against them look like fools and thoerists...
some ppl will die ruined by interest rates not realizing the fed controls there lives
THE TRUE NORTH AMERICANS DESERVE RESPECT... UNFORTUNATELY ARE REDUCED THE SAME CONDITION OF THE OTHER SUBJUGATED SOCIETY...
THEY ARE UNDER THE YOKE OF THE GLOBAL ELITE...COMPOSED BY ANOTHER PORTION OF NORTH AMERICAN POPULATION AND ALL CONTROL STATIONS IN NORTH AMERICAN SOCIETY ARE OCCUPIED BY
"Truther Alert" The cognitive parts of a schizophrenic's brain (you) create the paranoid tale in an effort to explain the constant red alert blaring from the dopamine circuits, using any stimuli available. This is why delusions are culturally appropriate.
Hey dude. When are you going to back up your delusion that what hit the Pentagon was the hijacked Flight77 piloted by Hani Hanjour into the building after knocking down the poles - other than with contradicting FDR/NTSB data?
We still miss:
- Some who saw the pole knock down/to contradict the 10 witnesses who confirms an NOC flight path
- hijacker's DNA
- prove that Hanjour did anything
- proof of the found parts being evidently linked specifically to the Flight AA77 aircraft
@Thetan1974 Steve Riskus: "I could see the "American Airlines" logo...It knocked over a few light poles in its way." Mark Bright: "...at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down." Mike Walter: "...it clipped one of these light poles ... and slammed right into the Pentagon right there. It was an American Airlines jet." Rodney Washington: "...knocking over light poles" Kirk Milburn: "I heard a plane. I saw it. I saw debris flying. I guess it was hitting light poles."
@911TRUTHINATOR D.S. Khavkin: "First, the plane knocked down a number of street lamp poles." Wanda Ramey: "I saw the wing of the plane clip the light post, and it made the plane slant. Penny Elgas: A piece of American Airlines Flight 77 was torn from the plane as it clipped a light pole. It landed in her car. Now in the Smithsonian Institution's 9/11 collection.
@911TRUTHINATOR The only two brothers who died at the Pentagon on 9/11 were hijackers Nawaf and Salem al-Hazmi. Remains of two brothers were identified by DNA
link wtc7lies all information backed up with links
Yeah, you go have these "witnesses" doing their testemonies live on cam today. No one is stopping you from packing your cam-corder and go out and find them.
And let me remind you that you have to find at LEAST one more other than Walters.
No DNA was ever compared to "hijacker's" residents. There MIGHT have been these two brothers on the plane, but there's NO proof they waved any box cutters. And we talk PROOF that Hani Hanjour took over and made his business.
@Thetan1974, if you think contradictory eye witness statements is unusual when there are hundreds of witnesses then you need to go talk to some police investigators.
As a matter of fact most of the evidence you asked for is online and public record, the Zacarias Moussaoui VA state court records is available online i have it bookmarked if you want me to send it to you. Of course we both know that you are actually not looking for the truth you are to invested at this point.
"Contradictory"? Oh, the witnesses in National Security Alert pretty much agree. What is funny, that it's TEN totally credible people who didn't see no pole knock down.
I need to see at least ONE of the 120 remaining - other than Walter - say they saw the knock down live.
"As a matter of fact most of the evidence you asked for is online and public record"
I haven't seen a version of the Moussaoui Case that accounted for those questions. Bring in the links.
@Thetan1974, there are photos and eye witness testimony and a news station interview with people who saw the light pole. Just because you find someone who did not see it means absolutely nothing, i am not going to play this run around eye witness game with you because there is no point.
Nice try "version" there is only one version and if there are more then one i suggest you prove it to me because making false federal documents is a felony.
- Some who WILL COME OUT TO STATE BUPLICLY ON CAM TODAY and confirm the pole knock down/to contradict the 10 witnesses who confirms an NOC flight path.
- hijacker's DNA
- prove that Hanjour did anything
- proof of the found parts being evidently linked specifically to the Flight AA77 aircraft
NONE is in the Moussaoui trial - and I'm NOT saying "a plane didn't hit!" That's not what I asked for. THE above is NOT in the Moussaoui Trial...!
You know you are stupid when you can't figure out 911 after 9 years; given the answers.
The Passengers of Flight 93 figured out 911 in minutes and took action. 911 Truth can't figure out 911 due to ignorance. 911 Truth, evidence free for 9 years.
2 thumbs up for both people.I think questioning for EITHER side is a great thing..Please dont get caught up in just the physics though....what about ALL the other truths??Like the 911 commissioners/saying they were SET UP TO FAIL!!!And the first one...quitting??
"Key whistle blowers, That was his first day on the job" does anyone else see how stupid that statement was? The problem with debating these numpties is that their heads are literally filled with what they call facts which they have compiled from this or that blog or dvd and they just fire these so called facts at you without properly answering any questions you ask. Failing that their buddy twoofers swamp you with statements interrupting you.
@LIVERLADD He was ready to answer any question that guy asked him.. he just had facts to back up his argument. .and online sources are the only media sources we have.. .WOULDNT IT SEEM that if "they" have so much money that they can control something like this... "they" would also control the media and main outlets of information to the public... when you wake up and realize we are ran by the central banking money mongers you will see what life is
Ok seen as how you twoofers all have different beliefs on what happened. Do you believe the plane that was brought down short of the white house was real or fake?
@LIVERLADD im a twoofer why do you care what i believe...
who cares if the plane was fake.. it crashed with the same intentions.. how could the planes find there ways to buildings while above the clouds.. (air controllers helping with directions)
" Why do you care what i believe" Did you not come blabbing your mouth off to me?
It was a cloudless day. I would imagine they would lower the altitude and aim the plane at the towers or is that just to simplistic for you? air controllers in on it now . are they.? I might just start selling tin foil hats on Ebay
What is interesting on the psychological level is: The "bandana hillbilly" at least stopped by to argue. That means, that he deep down isn't as closed minded as those just walking by. His need to argue is like that of debunker types - actually a great fear of "conspiracy nuts" being right. So he has to try to convince them they're wrong.
There's a bigger chance he'll wake up after this than if he'd just ignored and walked by with a grumpy look.
@Thetan1974 Absolutely - I tend to think the same thing. As a previous commenter noted, He seemed to hold his stance, but left visibly shaken and probably with a bad case of Cognitive Dissonance. Either he will figure it out, or he will stay angry and bury his head in the sand. REALLY looking at the issue means going deeper than just watching an internet documentary, or some youtube videos. People need to read more.
And yes thanks to everyone who was there, Great patriotic men and women!
Interesting. At least It makes more sense than "Shehhi the Rednosed Reindeer had Allah help him to obtain 510 knots at 1200ft altitude in a regular 767 as Atta helped him knock down 3 steel framed skyscrapers using only 2 767's, while Donald Duck and Hani Hanjour flew a 757 north of the Citgo Gas Station and into the Pentagon so fast that the air pressure even made some light poles quite far away from the aircraft fall over making even his DNA disappeared with most of the plane."
1) NIST makes the assumption that the CE station influenced the collapse - but they don't prove it. They only prove that they made a phoney, non scientific, non-peer reviewable report that hold data "that would jeopardize public safety" and didn't test for explosives because "the explosives could not have been installed in the building(s)."
2) 100-1000 tons. (Why do debunker nuts think that "truthers don't want to be asked this" when debunkers fear the steel tests of expl.?)
By the way, LIAR Harrit said 10 -100 tons moron. That's a pretty wide range! I thought he was an expert?
When asked how "they" got it into three of the largest and most trafficked buildings in the world without ANY witnesses LIARS Harrit responded, "Pallets".
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Truthers are fucking idiots. Retarded monkeys are smarter than Truthers.
12weasel100 1 day ago
Somebody needs to slap the shit out of that lady. Damn. Let the dude that actually has done the research talk. 9/11 truth
KeizeShow 1 week ago
This is where the debates stop:
watch?v=aPEpcjsJKCI
watch and make it viral
The911watch 2 weeks ago
This video shows that 911 Truth consists of a handful of kooks arguing on the sidewalk. They can't attract anyone to their rallies. Hits on truther web sites have plummeted. This "movement" has had no impact on anything. The quack demolition theories have sunk like a stone in the scientific world.
Hey kooks, maybe you should join up with your soulmates in the moon landing denial and holocaust denial camps. Maybe then you'll get a decent turn-out at your shitty little rallies.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
By the way, 300 tons by 40 is 12,000 not 13k. Go back to second grade.
WallStwizkid 3 weeks ago
Yeah now factor the dynamic load with the static load, and the asymmetrical shift of force due to a big gaping hole in the tower. Bunch of crackpots, there's close up footage of the collapse, you can see the damn building fail. Do you know how loud demolitions are? You can hear them miles away. There were definitely no explosives. If you can watch live footage of an event, as well as listen to witnesses that were on the scene, and still have these conspiracy theories, you're a nut.
WallStwizkid 3 weeks ago
man that fat bitch doesn't shut up!!!!!!
SarkTheShark94 1 month ago
wtf that bitch talkn about??? gurl bye..aint nobody talkn to u smh
sasajc05 2 months ago 3
Ask any Truther to provide a scientific peer-reviewed journal to prove their claims and they'll ignore it.
No journal = no inside jobby job
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 2 months ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong Yeah not only that, but they're watching edited videos of interviews, that were of course edited by conspiracy sites. The guy who made those comments, he wasn't factoring in the fuel load, and wasn't factoring burning jet fuel, and wasn't referring to the the ability of the structure to hold when the beams above were not square with the beams below. It's laughable that this guy thinks 40 commercial airliners could fly into the towers at 450mph with fully loaded fuel.
WallStwizkid 3 weeks ago
@WallStwizkid
True!
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 3 weeks ago
@TruthersRAlwaysWrong In fact, 43 airplanes could have, according to him, which would still be 100 tons below capacity. lol....does anybody else think this is bizarre? If you look at the "engineers for truth" and compare them to the population of engineers just in this country alone, they're like 1/4 of 1% of engineers. It's laughable. I actually work in that area and I was thinking of getting a petition passed around to ban them from the area on anniversaries. We're completely sick of them.
WallStwizkid 3 weeks ago
@WallStwizkid
1/4 of them aren't actually what they claim they are.
TruthersRAlwaysWrong 3 weeks ago
i dont know...you can the spread the truth or the REAl truth the problem is which one is which physic or simple idioticness
AmericanDroid 2 months ago
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Of you want the truth, truthers then call me. In in Hawaii and I'll prove it was an inside job. Heres my number! (808) 298-6445
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CyberMollySystems 5 months ago
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The correct answer to the question: Who and Why and How are all the same. We don’t know and that is why we need a new investigation.
theyalllied 5 months ago
There's always a dumb bell in the crowd.
louie2able 5 months ago 2
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@louie2able u loony 9/11 conspiracy morons are the dumb bells
1995nineteen 3 months ago
@1995nineteen Couldn't agree more.
joetufano719 2 months ago
Who is that fucking lady talking to?
deathlesszero 5 months ago 4
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Start by Googling '93 WTC Bombing Admitted Inside Job' and understand that their pasty for 'the drill' suspected something and recorded the Feds saying that they gave him a fake bomb and a truck for 'the drill' when he found out it was a real bomb instead. Its admitted to by the lying main stream military/banker whore media, so then maybe you can believe it since the TV says so.
They don't call it TV Programming for nothing.
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verbalmilitia 5 months ago
Why would they bring two buildings down that were completely full of asbestos that they were paying increasing fines every ten years since the day they were finished starting at $10 million, the $20 million, and they were just about ready to have to pay $30 million for 2001 - 2011.
There is the financial reason the sheep could understand that he forgot to bring up. Great job though guys.
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Our Ammo, the Truth.
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verbalmilitia 5 months ago
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@verbalmilitia Only one of the buildings had asbestos in it and even that only went up to the 38th floor.
You fail, twoofie.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 5 months ago
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verbalmilitia 5 months ago
The guy in the white sweater is most likely a plant-put there to disrupt and or antagonize the protestors!
kjack5 5 months ago 2
omg i wana slap that fat bitch "i heard nasa did it" !!! its as if she deliberately was trying to make the 9/11 truthers look crazy!
fahd08 5 months ago 2
What do you want investigated? Truthers always talk about wanting a new investigattion but what is there to investigate?
bayswaterband 6 months ago
@bayswaterband
You're a fucking moron and you didn't even watch the video. If you did you'd know that 911Truthers now have 5TB that prove their case and debunkers have nothing, not even a corpse to produce of Osama Bin Laden, who has been reported dead at least ten different times to date.
muskduh 6 months ago
@muskduh from what i've seen of those 5 terabytes, it's just sources that truthers are using to rehash theories already suggested. plus it doesn't "prove" their case, from what i've seen, it just gives them more videos and text to take out of context. maybe instead of claiming that the amount of "evidence" you have proves your point, you should be telling me about the facts the evidence proves? or are you content just knowing that there is a whole 5 terabytes of it, no matter how irrelevant?
bayswaterband 6 months ago
@bayswaterband
that's my point. i have nothing to prove to anyone. the burden of proof has now shifted to YOU in the mainstream debate, and Truthers now have a rock solid case that you are simply too lazy or intellectually paralyzed to investigate for yourself. The main point is that the videos have been covered up for TEN YEARS and yet you continue to claim there is nothing to investigate. Fuck you.
muskduh 6 months ago
@muskduh ok but from what i've seen, the previously "covered up" footage, as i've already stated, has been very similar evidence to that of which they have already used to make a case e.g people likening the plane crash/collapse of the tower to a bomb exploding, the collapse of wtc7 looking similar to that of as controlled demolition etc. and truthers have never had as rock solid case, they've had delusions.
bayswaterband 6 months ago
@bayswaterband
The cover-up is the proof you fool! Why would they censor 5000 Gigabytes of videos that show eyewitness testimonies of explosives and other evidence for ten years unless it proved the inside job? It's debunkers who are delusional. You've never been able to prove that Osama Bin Laden did the attacks, that he survived magically for ten years, and that he was killed recently by Obama. Nothing that the debunkers have said has turned out to be true, but our case keeps growing.
muskduh 6 months ago
@muskduh who were they "covered up" by previously? why were they released? where were they released?
also what have you seen that is "classified"? when i searched the 5TB of unclassified footage all the examples were news broadcasts, interviews and on the ground footage. all of which would not be owned by the government, but by the people who originally recorded them. And your last statement is simply wrong, there have been so many tests and analyses done to prove so many truther theories false
bayswaterband 6 months ago
@bayswaterband
Nothing has been debunked. You have simply wasted the past ten years of your life believing in lies. I am an eyewitness and colleague of many first responders and survivors. There is no sense of people like me even speaking with people like you.
muskduh 6 months ago
By the way that's me in the video and 80% of the comments here agree with me. You're in the minority and it doesn't feel too good, does it? Sorry, but there is no proof that Al-Qaeda or Bin Laden had anything to do with this. Have a nice time believing in lies. This is not a matter of opinion.
muskduh 6 months ago 3
@muskduh nice work on being in a video! and it's a pretty neutral feeling being the minority on a video with under 7,000 views i must say. there is plenty of proof of both al qaeda and bin laden being involved, much more so in fact than there is of the american government having anything to do with the attacks. could you please answer my initial questions in my previous comment?
bayswaterband 6 months ago
@bayswaterband There is also plenty of proof that All CIA Duh and Usama Bin Laden work for the Feds. Try using your brain instead of just repeating what you are told by an illegal banking scam government that has proven to us a thousand times over that all they do is lie.
Your first mistake is believing that this is your government. A government of, by and for the people. You are online so all the info you need is right at your fingertips.
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@muskduh What case!? If people decide not to believe you then all of a sudden theyre part of some brainwashing plot just because they didn't agree with the chance of it being an inside job.Why is there no possibility that you're wrong?The white sweatshirt guy brings up a good point about a pancake effect but they just blow it off because they assume that they are the only ones who are right.Here's a real question for you
What would happen if you guys are wrong?
CyberMollySystems 5 months ago
The WTC was the American economy's heart. Highly doubt that any oil gained from afghanistan/Iraq would make up for the money lost in damages both to buildings and economy. As for the new world order? I don't see any signs of new world order ten years on, do any of you?
bayswaterband 6 months ago
@bayswaterband What about the patriot act? What about warrantless wiretapping, torture, wars of empire under the guise of "policing the world" and "spreading democracy"? TSA's abuse of power constantly in the headlines, and tea party activists being labeled as terrorists? Where are you that you're not seeing tyranny or any of this stuff? I'd like to live there.
Anon8420 6 months ago 2
@Anon8420 I really don't see how hijacking 4 american planes, destroying 3 buildings and killing more than 2 and a half thousand people is tea party activism. And what about the patriot act? A quite extreme decision by a less than intelligent president? Hardly a conspiracy. Sure, leaders of nations are power hungry, that's evident all throughout history. But for such an elaborate and massive scaled conspiracy to exist? They could've just had "Osama" kill 20 americans and invaded.
bayswaterband 6 months ago
@bayswaterband Oh and I'm from Australia, you can always move here, our dollar's doing pretty well ;)
bayswaterband 6 months ago
asbestos removal is very expensive,bet it's 5 times more than two new buildings,thats my question.
weaveweweb 7 months ago 4
Somebody should have told that fat bitch "SHUT THE FUCK UP!"
getcruunkk 8 months ago 5
that ugly, fat, foul mouthed woman needs to shut up bcuz she dont know shit.
mickymacky02 9 months ago 6
this guy doesnt really know much hes just emotionally offended by the idea of his government thinking of him as a piece of meat to be used, abused, killed and dispensed of. gleen dude has knowledge, go on 9/11 truth, we will win!
mikefan09 9 months ago 5
Ive got a question for conspiracy theorists, if you tthink you know the truth about 9/11 and exposing the NWO and all this shit, why isnt the NWO hunting you down? Why is Dylan Avery, Alex Jones, Richard Gage etc. all alive? If they are foiling this great scheme of the NWO? Why isn't the NWO killing them off?
pimper347 9 months ago
@pimper347 the government IS hunting me down and they're surveiling you, too! Just because you didn't get the memo doesn't mean they aren't harassing us. Also, killing prominent people will only underscore the importance of what they're doing, and since the NWO is so arrogant and out in the open now, they don't care about being exposed and they're going full steam ahead with their agenda. Besides, if we're truthers and conspiracy theorists, doesn't that make you liars and coincidence theorists?
muskduh 9 months ago
@muskduh No, it doesn't, I used to be a firm believer in the NWO truther movement like you, but, the reason you think they are trying to unify us under one rule is because of the federal reserve, and the possibility of an amero being put into play in the next few decades. I dont agree with an amero for the most part, but even if this happens, it doesnt mean that our countries will become unified, europe did it with the euro and they're still seperate countries.
pimper347 9 months ago
@pimper347 you obv havent reviewed the list of 9/11 witness/truthers that have died since 9/11. barry jennings, bertha champagne, kenneth johannesmen..just to name a few.
mickymacky02 9 months ago 6
if one person gets killed you can have investigation for as long as it takes to find the real killer but if its the killer thats in charge of the investigation you will never find them. you need a real independent investigation to 911 as soon as possible.
chronotek2009 9 months ago 3
We ask the questions! Let a serious investigation give us the answers! The asshole in the bandana can kiss my American ass! WE WANT A NEW INVESTIGATION!
Born2Flesh 9 months ago 2
u stupid fat bitch............ so annoying
JUANO510 10 months ago 2
I think you got to try a new approach.
riethc 10 months ago
He is obviously an agent
danonfire79 10 months ago 10
Lol at the basehead, fat tramp shut up woman you know nothing.
ETSpacealien 10 months ago
the black chick needs to shut the fuck up.God her voice is annoying as fuck.
Arabchick18 11 months ago 2
I nor my children will ever die for Israel. ...and the guy in the bandana is full of shit.
Born2Flesh 11 months ago 3
Dragaster and Funny car bodies are made of Fiberglass not steel.
timrocket2008 11 months ago 9
@timrocket2008 NO THATS A CONSPIRACY THEORY YOU KOOKY MOONBAT WINGNUT TWOOFER!!!
Oh wait, no it's not....
911Infowarrior 11 months ago 6
@911Infowarrior lol That Mullet headed "debunker" claims their bodies are steel.
timrocket2008 11 months ago
Go watch Drag Racing and keep being a stupid moron.
junglemike72 1 year ago 6
All those tons come crashind down? Moron, pancake effect? This is an example of sheep.
junglemike72 1 year ago 5
Take a look at Scholars for 9/11 truth ,Architects, lawyers.N,Y,F. D. etc . for 9/11 truth .
They are not stupid people they just want justice .
The evidence for a government cover up is collossal - It is time the criminals are put out of power-
It's like completely evil . Like having Adolf Hitler back from hell the TRUTH WILL BE KNOWN - the sooner we get these monsters behind bars the better - oh by the way googe MICHAEL MEACHER -on youtube - He states the case for a new inquiry so wel
55mandreck 1 year ago 2
I agree The Cow in the Pink that is running her mouth makes no sense what so ever I will admit for the longest time I never thought about 911 could have been an inside job but now that i have done some research and watched many videos and read many articles I now firmly agree that 911 was and could be an inside job and that many people are to scared to admit it because they are scared they will end up like all the other eye witnesses that jsut ended up dead
tarapowell24 1 year ago 2
Bandana guy iis in Denial.
I have hope for him though. He may come around yet.
CTCADGUY 1 year ago 2
somemotherfuckersalwaystryingtoiceskateuphill
scoretosettle 1 year ago
the little bitch needs to shut the fuck up when somebody's talking
TheSoilworker69 1 year ago 5
@MilitaryMind4409
Search "Black Operation" or "Black Propaganda" on Wikipedia for starters.
muskduh 1 year ago
great job glen .....
levittownpa912 1 year ago 4
"dude, seriously forget it's over. the fuckin buildings fell down and a lot of people died. it doesn't matter who the fuck did it, really" THE OFFICIAL STORY DEFENDERS WILL EAT THEIR OWN WORDS.
muskduh 1 year ago
At the end he actually says "it doesn't matter who did it." We've heard it before. This is a normal part of admitting. Try not to react... let the words linger and they will have their maximum effect. Nice work.
slopartdotcom 1 year ago 15
Some truthers are very, very poor teachers. I wonder if a student needs extra help, do teachers call their student's names in private? When the public doesn't "get it" and are challenging us, they're essentially saying "I don't learn that way, find another way to reach me". Imagine a teacher just sitting at the desk talking, no textbook open to page__
no chalkboard notation. Just talk. This was a great opportunity to teach the observers, they're the ones who lose when we show up unprepared.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
I've only been awake since 2005, but I've seen too many of these lopsided exchanges, so I NEVER leave my house without proof! Whatever you intend to discuss, you'd better have photos and documents to back it up...we are visual creatures. We've gotta' do better than just:"Here watch this dvd"- I have no visual illustrations with me, but take my word, I can show you the things I've cited at the library. Don't come to GZ unprepared. Don't just say it, DISPLAY IT!
researchercomelately 1 year ago
This was horrible tough to watch. Hopefully, this is firm reminder/warning to all "truthers" to never, ever leave home unprepared for a debate...which this was not, but had an informed debunker showed up this would have been worse! Never tell someone come with me to the library, I can show you several articles about foreknowledge. If you know you're coming to GZ bring the damn articles with you!!! As well as a computer or portable dvd player, so you can show the clips of the buildings 'falling'
researchercomelately 1 year ago
@PainlessTragedy Give me your e-mail address, I'll also send you the reply I got from the CIA and JFK Special Warfare School when I filed a FOIA seeking access to the videos.
washingtonpost [dot]com/spy-talk/2010/05/cia_group_had_wacky_ideas_to_
researchercomelately 1 year ago 4
the bandana guy is a plant for the cia. he states : " it's over the buildings fell down lets move on" do not waste your time debating with those who still think jfk was shot by Oswald a single shooter.
greenbike11 1 year ago 5
Strawman much?
katey1dog 1 year ago 4
The FAT latin chick is RETARDED
skb0rzn 1 year ago 3
@PainlessTragedy
CIA unit's wacky idea: Depict Saddam as gay
"The agency actually did make a video purporting to show Osama bin Laden and his cronies sitting around a campfire swigging bottles of liquor and savoring their conquests with boys, one of the former CIA officers recalled, chuckling at the memory. The actors were drawn from “some of us darker-skinned employees,” he said."
muskduh 1 year ago
Zionist
911truthseekers 1 year ago
ask them questions, after questions, nudge them into the direction of having to research to be able to then refute your points...for these people they have to research and arrive at the conclusions on their own, and the only way to achieve that is not through a shouting match, but making them understand that they are not even remotely educated on the subject. A person that can barely count to 10 has no place in arguing calculus with a professor. They need to become aware first.
syborius 1 year ago 4
the best methodology to use with people that are ignorant but claim to know all the answers is ask them if they know what nano thermite is, or what wtc7 is, or able danger, or pnac, etc, etc..you can't shout small facts at people that are ignorant, that just doesn't matter, what you must do is convince them that they know nothing, because someone that is angry and stubborn will then go back and research and then hopefully wake up.
syborius 1 year ago 2
QUESTION: "You fly a plane made of aluminum into the building at twice the speed of a dragster...what do you think is gonna happen?"
ANSWER: "The same thing that happened to the much weaker Empire State building when a 10 ton B-25 slammed into the 79th floor in 1945, tearing a hole 18 feet wide and 20 feet high. What do you think happened to the Empire State building when it was struck by a bomber?
Is it gone?"
That's what I would have said.
Bernadotte01 1 year ago 4
Painfull stupidity of white sweater guy.
UNTC321 1 year ago 4
Good debate - though someone should smack the fat bitch in red!
Kbonefan 1 year ago 25
I'm a firefighter from the Uk & I've studied 9/11 for 7 years. It was blatantly an inside job. I think the best way to approach idiots like this is just to show they the heat signature satelite photos & ask them how hot spots hotter than jet fuels maximum burning point have been detected under all 3 buildings at ground zero, hotter than jet fuels maximum burning point days later. They wont be able to, theres no point in arguing on little points with these people because they clearly know nadda!
maximus2908 1 year ago 4
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The gut with glasses looks little bit like Ziad Jarrah.That's my opinion
TheKonrad1984 1 year ago
This video is embarrassing to the human race
Horjan 1 year ago
A picture paints a thousand words.
Would it not have been far, far, better for the 9/11 truth people to have set up a video screen complete with speakers and just show the crowd what their message is than to spend so much time and energy trying to explain why it is impossible for the 3 buildings to have collapsed the way they did?
Why do people seem to think that speaking a million words instead would be somehow better than showing just one video to the intended audience??
hamba2han 1 year ago
@hamba2han
Your comment about pictures is very astute.
The "metal fire" clip at my channel shows photos of a thermite reaction at the 81st floor of the south tower. But there are never any photos or video shown at ground zero--just words.
You make a good point.
Bernadotte01 1 year ago
@Bernadotte01 I used to have considerable doubts, not of the official story of 9/11 which I have long ago disbelieved, but rather my doubts were concerning the mechanism of destruction of the three collapsed World Trade Center buildings which various scientists and engineers have tried to explain.
I would urge people to do a search for "TheBareDritt" on YouTube and view all 26 parts of the video on his channel and then decide for themselves whether or not the explanation offered is plausible.
hamba2han 1 year ago 2
@hamba2han You're absolutely correct. Unfortunately, they don't all work together, and they are not all always prepared. If Glenn came prepared, the 'exchange' wouldn't have lasted as long as it did. Hopefully, something is learned from this video.
researchercomelately 1 year ago
do not waste your time trying to convince them..they do not want to see or understand anything...
ivonneviovy 1 year ago
I wish that crazy lady would have shut her mouth for two seconds.
metalgodess81 1 year ago 4
"It doesn't matter who the fuck did it, really." WOW. That sir, is what makes you a sheep and a slave.
astrosfan611 1 year ago 6
I think this was handled incorrectly. The man wasn't MAD at you guys. He was MAD that his worldview was crumbling in its own footprint. Otherwise...great debate.
soSUBURBIA 1 year ago 3
Yes, it does matter. In conclusion, aging biker in white sweater (AB) says .."what does it matter, the building is down, people died, its over." Glenn, although cool headed, is dealing with someone that just wants to sleep at nite. Thats all.
Why bother with the debate to convince people like AB who can't accept facts, the evidence is undeniable! It makes us all sick, and we wish it wasn't true. But this splinter is working it's way to the surface. In the process, it hurts and it festers!
pjamesbda 1 year ago 3
Would that fat bitch shut the fuck up and let the two men have a civilized debate?
thatdoomguy666 1 year ago
@thatdoomguy666 Really, LOL. I was thinking the same thing; Wondering if there's a way to filter her out?
pluslou 1 year ago
one day the truth will be known....and the jews will leave palistine
alikp123 1 year ago
I'd just like to get an idea of where everybody is... If you believe there was a government cover up on 911 eleven please answer yes and if you believe that al queada did it please answer no. Thanks
01kingJ 1 year ago 3
@01kingJ
YES
Caligirl1st 1 year ago
a lot of people made money off of 911
sl0j0 1 year ago 3
This paid CIA or Gvmnt employee/clown/actor portraying himself as a "regular white trash dude" has a hard task to perform! He sounds way too smart and polite to be a real white trash dude. I don't buy it! want my money back! LOL! The CIA should offer better acting classes to some of their employees if they don't already, or send them to get some training in hollywood!
enrriqueiglesias00 1 year ago 3
this guy compared the would trade cent collapse to a dragster = waste of time
trexx32 1 year ago 4
That woman spoiled the video!
Vinseneb 1 year ago 3
that stupid bitch needs to shut the fuck up
why is she budging in to their debate
they re having a fair debate which im all for
and this bitch comes in and starts yelling over them
stikitape214 1 year ago
We are selling something to people who have the inability to hear what we are saying. A reevaluation of what we are doing needs to take place if we wish for others to be able to see through the illusions that confront them. This mans denial to glen's expression of truth was an indication of a very deep rooted fear within himself. Also if glen had been aware of this mans inability to hear, and understood why that inablity existed, and adjusted accordingly things would have been different.
WeAreChangeQueensNY 1 year ago 7
@WeAreChangeQueensNY I agree. I think Glenn did a great job of staying cool headed and level while this guy talks to him like hes a 4 year old, all the while a crazy lady is screaming about NASA and other nonsensical garbage. He's well spoken, but there were a few points that could have been made stronger, there are better answers to "Why?" - like the loss of civil liberties and the two wars, drugs from Afghanistan, but its not easy to do this on the street with a lunatic screaming in your ear
911Infowarrior 1 year ago 9
@911Infowarrior you guys did a good job educating that women and that guy but she was really freaking annoying lol
JesusSaves1984 1 year ago
@WeAreChangeQueensNY It just takes little steps before we can walk with confidence. 'Loose Change' came out 5 years ago, another couple of years or so there's going to be huge numbers of people more aware.
The more people believe in something the more believable it becomes.
sillymonkey8888 1 year ago
LOGICAL CONCLUSION:
WTC: A PERFECT DEMOLITION WORK WITH THERMITE AND TNT.
THE IMPACT OF AIRCRAFT: NOT SHEAR THE STRUCTURE OF STEEL AND NOT PULVERIZE CONCRETE.
QUESTIONS:
- quantity of explosives needed to implode the towers?
- WHO, WHEN AND HOW TO SUCH HUGE AMOUNT OF EXPLOSIVES WERE INSTALLED?
- AS A HUGE AMOUNT OF EXPLOSIVES Wander into the WTC without being detected?
- WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SAFETY OF WTC AND WHO WERE DOING PART OF THE TEAM OF SECURITY?
WawsestilL 1 year ago 2
WTC: AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT, THE ORGANIZED CRIMINALS
(THE REAL SECRET NORTH-AMERICAN SOCIETY) HAS ABILITY TO DO TO ACHIEVE ITS OBJECTIVES...
- CALL THE SUPERMAN!!!!
WawsestilL 1 year ago
The educational system is responsible...The product of these institutions is...an individual who does not think, does not assess. It is necessary to help them...so they can see again
WawsestilL 1 year ago
For some it is impossible to face the truth. Their lives were based on lies...
WawsestilL 1 year ago
Foundation of lies built by Someone who has so much money and are so elite that they could cover there tracks 100% and make all people who go against them look like fools and thoerists...
some ppl will die ruined by interest rates not realizing the fed controls there lives
ibanez860 1 year ago
THE TRUE NORTH AMERICANS DESERVE RESPECT... UNFORTUNATELY ARE REDUCED THE SAME CONDITION OF THE OTHER SUBJUGATED SOCIETY...
THEY ARE UNDER THE YOKE OF THE GLOBAL ELITE...COMPOSED BY ANOTHER PORTION OF NORTH AMERICAN POPULATION AND ALL CONTROL STATIONS IN NORTH AMERICAN SOCIETY ARE OCCUPIED BY
ELEMENTS THIS ELITE AND HIS SERVANTS HYENAS.
WHO WILL SAVE THE NORTH AMERICAN PEOPLE?
SUPER MAN??
WawsestilL 1 year ago
@911Infowarrior
You know debunkers are had when they don't answer back.
The question is: do they know them selves?
Thetan1974 1 year ago
great arguments. was the loud-mouthed, distracting woman a plant or seriously deranged? almost seems she was put there.
peacerebelgirl 1 year ago
I want to kill that fat bitch
911Brit1 1 year ago
"Truther Alert" The cognitive parts of a schizophrenic's brain (you) create the paranoid tale in an effort to explain the constant red alert blaring from the dopamine circuits, using any stimuli available. This is why delusions are culturally appropriate.
JLaw012 1 year ago
@JLaw012
Hey dude. When are you going to back up your delusion that what hit the Pentagon was the hijacked Flight77 piloted by Hani Hanjour into the building after knocking down the poles - other than with contradicting FDR/NTSB data?
We still miss:
- Some who saw the pole knock down/to contradict the 10 witnesses who confirms an NOC flight path
- hijacker's DNA
- prove that Hanjour did anything
- proof of the found parts being evidently linked specifically to the Flight AA77 aircraft
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974 Steve Riskus: "I could see the "American Airlines" logo...It knocked over a few light poles in its way." Mark Bright: "...at the height of the street lights. It knocked a couple down." Mike Walter: "...it clipped one of these light poles ... and slammed right into the Pentagon right there. It was an American Airlines jet." Rodney Washington: "...knocking over light poles" Kirk Milburn: "I heard a plane. I saw it. I saw debris flying. I guess it was hitting light poles."
911TRUTHINATOR 1 year ago
@911TRUTHINATOR D.S. Khavkin: "First, the plane knocked down a number of street lamp poles." Wanda Ramey: "I saw the wing of the plane clip the light post, and it made the plane slant. Penny Elgas: A piece of American Airlines Flight 77 was torn from the plane as it clipped a light pole. It landed in her car. Now in the Smithsonian Institution's 9/11 collection.
link: wtc7lies
911TRUTHINATOR 1 year ago
@911TRUTHINATOR The only two brothers who died at the Pentagon on 9/11 were hijackers Nawaf and Salem al-Hazmi. Remains of two brothers were identified by DNA
link wtc7lies all information backed up with links
911TRUTHINATOR 1 year ago
@911TRUTHINATOR
Yeah, you go have these "witnesses" doing their testemonies live on cam today. No one is stopping you from packing your cam-corder and go out and find them.
And let me remind you that you have to find at LEAST one more other than Walters.
No DNA was ever compared to "hijacker's" residents. There MIGHT have been these two brothers on the plane, but there's NO proof they waved any box cutters. And we talk PROOF that Hani Hanjour took over and made his business.
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974, if you think contradictory eye witness statements is unusual when there are hundreds of witnesses then you need to go talk to some police investigators.
As a matter of fact most of the evidence you asked for is online and public record, the Zacarias Moussaoui VA state court records is available online i have it bookmarked if you want me to send it to you. Of course we both know that you are actually not looking for the truth you are to invested at this point.
JLaw012 1 year ago
@JLaw012
"Contradictory"? Oh, the witnesses in National Security Alert pretty much agree. What is funny, that it's TEN totally credible people who didn't see no pole knock down.
I need to see at least ONE of the 120 remaining - other than Walter - say they saw the knock down live.
"As a matter of fact most of the evidence you asked for is online and public record"
I haven't seen a version of the Moussaoui Case that accounted for those questions. Bring in the links.
Thetan1974 1 year ago
@Thetan1974, there are photos and eye witness testimony and a news station interview with people who saw the light pole. Just because you find someone who did not see it means absolutely nothing, i am not going to play this run around eye witness game with you because there is no point.
Nice try "version" there is only one version and if there are more then one i suggest you prove it to me because making false federal documents is a felony.
JLaw012 1 year ago
@JLaw012
Let's try it again:
- Some who WILL COME OUT TO STATE BUPLICLY ON CAM TODAY and confirm the pole knock down/to contradict the 10 witnesses who confirms an NOC flight path.
- hijacker's DNA
- prove that Hanjour did anything
- proof of the found parts being evidently linked specifically to the Flight AA77 aircraft
NONE is in the Moussaoui trial - and I'm NOT saying "a plane didn't hit!" That's not what I asked for. THE above is NOT in the Moussaoui Trial...!
Thetan1974 1 year ago
Its like trying to convince an athiest of Jesus crucifiction, very sad.
Allanlegacy43 1 year ago
You know you are stupid when you can't figure out 911 after 9 years; given the answers.
The Passengers of Flight 93 figured out 911 in minutes and took action. 911 Truth can't figure out 911 due to ignorance. 911 Truth, evidence free for 9 years.
iSunTzu 1 year ago
2 thumbs up for both people.I think questioning for EITHER side is a great thing..Please dont get caught up in just the physics though....what about ALL the other truths??Like the 911 commissioners/saying they were SET UP TO FAIL!!!And the first one...quitting??
musicloverofall 1 year ago
lady in pink is a provocateur
Edwardsjm 1 year ago
bandanna boy is ex military plant for mis-info
hauleywood 1 year ago
"Key whistle blowers, That was his first day on the job" does anyone else see how stupid that statement was? The problem with debating these numpties is that their heads are literally filled with what they call facts which they have compiled from this or that blog or dvd and they just fire these so called facts at you without properly answering any questions you ask. Failing that their buddy twoofers swamp you with statements interrupting you.
LIVERLADD 1 year ago
@LIVERLADD He was ready to answer any question that guy asked him.. he just had facts to back up his argument. .and online sources are the only media sources we have.. .WOULDNT IT SEEM that if "they" have so much money that they can control something like this... "they" would also control the media and main outlets of information to the public... when you wake up and realize we are ran by the central banking money mongers you will see what life is
ibanez860 1 year ago
@ibanez860
Ok seen as how you twoofers all have different beliefs on what happened. Do you believe the plane that was brought down short of the white house was real or fake?
LIVERLADD 1 year ago
@LIVERLADD im a twoofer why do you care what i believe...
who cares if the plane was fake.. it crashed with the same intentions.. how could the planes find there ways to buildings while above the clouds.. (air controllers helping with directions)
ibanez860 1 year ago
@ibanez860
" Why do you care what i believe" Did you not come blabbing your mouth off to me?
It was a cloudless day. I would imagine they would lower the altitude and aim the plane at the towers or is that just to simplistic for you? air controllers in on it now . are they.? I might just start selling tin foil hats on Ebay
LIVERLADD 1 year ago
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LIVERLADD 1 year ago
At the end he said something like it doesn't matter who did it, the towers fell down down and people died. He failed.
kokpit 1 year ago
Guy with bandanna ''Now come back to my trailer and have sex with me and my sister''
lucy1938203 1 year ago
Poor ignorant masses.
Richardcuz420 1 year ago
that fat bitch needs to shut the fuck up!shit!
gr8american 1 year ago
drag racers are brain dead
gr8american 1 year ago
What is interesting on the psychological level is: The "bandana hillbilly" at least stopped by to argue. That means, that he deep down isn't as closed minded as those just walking by. His need to argue is like that of debunker types - actually a great fear of "conspiracy nuts" being right. So he has to try to convince them they're wrong.
There's a bigger chance he'll wake up after this than if he'd just ignored and walked by with a grumpy look.
Thanks to all 9/11 truthers at GZ this year!
Thetan1974 1 year ago 15
@Thetan1974 Absolutely - I tend to think the same thing. As a previous commenter noted, He seemed to hold his stance, but left visibly shaken and probably with a bad case of Cognitive Dissonance. Either he will figure it out, or he will stay angry and bury his head in the sand. REALLY looking at the issue means going deeper than just watching an internet documentary, or some youtube videos. People need to read more.
And yes thanks to everyone who was there, Great patriotic men and women!
911Infowarrior 1 year ago 9
@Thetan1974 except at the end just after his rather comical "jazz hands" he says the buildings fell, people died, it dosnt matter who did it really!
chunkyboy100 1 year ago
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IT WAS THE TRAITOR BUSH!
Bush did 911, and here's how it went down.
Bush was on the first plane to hit WTC and parachuted out at the last minute shouting "mission accomplished!".
If you look at the film footage you can see his parachute, it says "Don't mess with Texas" on it.
Cheney piloted the other plane that crashed into the WTC. He died & the GOP replaced him with a robot clone.
For real.
That's why that guy got shot hunting, a Cheney-bot shot him.
911 TRUTH = 911 LIES
ctcole77 1 year ago
@ctcole77
Interesting. At least It makes more sense than "Shehhi the Rednosed Reindeer had Allah help him to obtain 510 knots at 1200ft altitude in a regular 767 as Atta helped him knock down 3 steel framed skyscrapers using only 2 767's, while Donald Duck and Hani Hanjour flew a 757 north of the Citgo Gas Station and into the Pentagon so fast that the air pressure even made some light poles quite far away from the aircraft fall over making even his DNA disappeared with most of the plane."
Thetan1974 1 year ago 4
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It wasn't a missile or a plane that hit the Pentagon people!
It was Karl Rove.
Rove sniffed a whole bottle of glue and drove a '74 Gremlin filled with explosives into the Pentagon.
I have the FACTS (and the charred Gremlin bumper).
Karl Rove is DEAD!
The guy we see now is Karl Rove’s evil twin brother, Lrak Rove.
911 WAS AN OUTSIDE JOB!
ctcole77 1 year ago
3 QUESTIONS 911 TRUTHERS DON'T WANT YOU TO ASK THEM:
Since WTC 7 was constructed over a Con Ed station, how did the structural framing compensate for the station and how did that influence the collapse?
How much nanothermite did Niels Harrit estimate was used in the supposed controlled demolition of WTC 1, 2, & 7?
If a postcard could survive the Hindenburg inferno isn't it possible for a passport to survive the WTC collapse?
ctcole77 1 year ago
@ctcole77
1) NIST makes the assumption that the CE station influenced the collapse - but they don't prove it. They only prove that they made a phoney, non scientific, non-peer reviewable report that hold data "that would jeopardize public safety" and didn't test for explosives because "the explosives could not have been installed in the building(s)."
2) 100-1000 tons. (Why do debunker nuts think that "truthers don't want to be asked this" when debunkers fear the steel tests of expl.?)
Thetan1974 1 year ago
Great non answer!
By the way, LIAR Harrit said 10 -100 tons moron. That's a pretty wide range! I thought he was an expert?
When asked how "they" got it into three of the largest and most trafficked buildings in the world without ANY witnesses LIARS Harrit responded, "Pallets".
ROFL!
ctcole77 1 year ago