Now we're not seeing the whole story here in thi sclip. We don't know what made the decision. Having said that , if it was on the basis of the religious testimomny giving at the zoning meeting than once again the constitution has been thwarted by religious zealots. I couldn't help notice there were three large crosses on the site in one shot. Have they been removed as well.
i think its an amazing thing for them to protest...i dont believe in mother earth,im some form of christian...ppl can protest what they want or believe what they want,but i feel personally...let anyone believe what they want,if u dont like it...dont go there..leave and never come back
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Dumb video! But my comment would be if the deal went through proper channels so be it. As far as the religious fanatics saying no idols please.... the Pilgrims and Puritans left the Old World to come to the New World to have religious freedom! That's what makes America so great. You don't have religous police running around drawing up the rules!
@rabidchevy - the tao fellowship owns the property. In other words, they erected a statue on their own land. Privately owned land. The Tao Fellowship voluntarily removed the statue at their own expense.
If you want the freedom to build as you wish, you move out to bigger spots of land in rural areas and away from the snobs in the city. Thats the way Americans have been doing it for years, you're not special because you're minorites, lots of people get screwed by zoning and HOA busybodies.
I don't understand how Mago is an idol. Do people worship her? It seems as though she's more of an icon for the Earth, to me. Am I wrong in this?
I'm not sure on the entire story, so I may be wrong, but it seems as though Mago is about as much of an idol as Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny. No one is idolizing it at all. Am I wrong in this?
Re: mago statue--it is interesting to note that in virginia, on I-81, at both the south and north ends, there are giant crosses. i think that they are intended to be symbols of jesus and christianity. It is not any big deal, though. they are just huge, enormous crosses. has anyone ever noted in the southeast, the array of three crosses that appear on many hills? what do they mean?
Private or not, Mago and its affiliate groups are spiritual capitalists and utilize unethical tactics to ensnare people into spending more money into their organizations. I could care less about a statue- its the fact that people are willing to stage themselves as 'realized masters' for lots of cash and power.
@xgotarox lol okay, now you're just trolling, so I'm done here. There's no bowing or praying to crosses, there's not even bowing in church. There's no way you could know that little, so I'm going to assume you're just out to troll me.
If a group of Christian's put up a huge statue of Jesus in a park in any town of America, there would be an outcry from every lib from Maine to California of separation of church and state! But when Christian's use the same so-called law, they are called Nazi's. What hypocrites!
@mvies77 - except the mago statue was on private property. The Earth Park is on land owned by the Tao Fellowship. If that happened to Christians, you'd hear a lot of pissing and moaning. The TF instead chose to simply remove a statue - off their own property. So......... ummm....yeah.
@MrRedFredSaid You think that has not happened to Christian's or private citizens in several cases on their private property. Property itself has been removed from citizens.This is the result of all the years of persecution and atheists bringing law suits. Now everyone's freedom has been affected and lost. Where was everyone else when these rights were taken. Nowhere, because who cares about religion.
I think stupid liberals brought it onto themselves. if people weren't crying over having to put up with your neighbor's Christmas lights, or trying to take God out of everything... there would not be any base for this incident. You can't expect to agravate people and not have them act on it. IT sucks! Also, it was the city's decision... at the end this is democracy ... and decisions are not made to please the few... doing otherwise is not fair, for the majority.
I can't believe this! This is so ironic I thought Christians should fight for freedom of religion since they are allowed to express and spread their own believes, but this show that these so called "Christians" can be as hateful as Nazis. They are just oppressing a different point of view that doesn't affect them what so ever.
Religious discrimination had nothing to do with it... I go to the Catholic church right next door and I had no problem with the statue untill I found out that they didn't have the proper paper work to have the statue up.. That church is new, they waited nearly 5 yrs to get the paper work to build the church and it just isn't right to put that statue up w/out permission from the town. It was an eye-sore and it disturbed the flow of the environment...
Well good. Does this mean I can tear down every scenery-killing cross and Church billboard that tells me Jesus want me to burn in hell if I don't come inside and throw some money in the plate? They should replace it with a giant George Carlin statue.
It was not an "educational community park", it was a propaganda park to espouse and promote one certain point of view. I'm so sick of hearing about the environment and "community." Look after yourself and your surroundings and that's enough. Don't force your point of view on me. Love, a conservative atheist.
It amazes me how these "Christians" will claim that this statue needs to be taken down because Jesus condemns idol worship, while they themselves will put a crucifix/cross on top of and inside their church which in itself is also a form of idol worship.
If you're gonna call yourself a Christian at least read the bible, understand what it says, and apply it. Jesus taught that God hates idol worship, but he didn't go around disrespecting other peoples beliefs and tearing down their idols.
It amazes me how these "Christians" will claim that this statue needs to be taken down because their Jesus condemns idol worship, while they themselves will put a crucifix/cross on top of and inside their church which in itself is also a form of idol worship.
If you're gonna call yourself a Christian at least read the bible, understand what it says, and apply it. Jesus taught that God hates idol worship, but he didn't go around disrespecting other peoples beliefs and tearing down their idols.
You know what the best line is? the most twisted and biased line in the entire clip? "If its offensive to God, its Offensive to me." Read it again. See what he did there? What a Cunt.
Some people are just biased, biggoted, pigs who won't even take the blame for what their saying. "If it's offensive to god"- how the hell do they know its offensive to god? I mean really? In the bible he said that he didn't want to be idolized, not that all other idols are offensive, or outlawed, or wrong. I know that- and im NOT even a GOD DAMN CHRISTIAN
I wonder how many of these people actually used the park? There's no reason to have a giant statue like that in the park. If nothing else it just looks stupid. These same people would be going nuts if there was a giant Jesus statue in a public park even though according to others religious views, He's who created the earth... not some idol named "Mago".
this is disgusting, plain english. our country is about letting everyone believe what they want to believe. what? do we all have to be christian to live in this country, now? Those christians are crazy and need to get that 2000 year old pole out of their asses.
all of you guys are totally off.the town did not give legal permission for the statues except temporary permission for the Mago statue.the statues also used illegal building materials. on top of that the zoning for the area was "Agricultural-Residential-70" so the park was in the wrong zone too. If a church was built in the wrong zone with the wrong building materials and received no permission from the town to do so, then it would be torn down too. and I doubt you would see all these protestors
How come a non-Christian can protest something they don't believe and they get support, but when a Christian protests something they don't believe they get put down?
@MissBuggy95 Because religion and state are separate. Separate. It is illegal for the government to favor one religion over the other. This was a state decision that was made for religious reasons. Secular protests don't violate that law and are typically more about the law itself than faith.
And yet again, I find myself not believing in the intolerance of humanity. If they decided to take down a statue that represented the planet on which we live, or as they say in my church "our island home" (and yes I am a Christian), then why don't they take down all the crosses around as well. And all the American flags. Or better yet, every symbol we as humans hold dear to our diversity should be removed. There is no logic behind this action, only hate for something they don't understand.
I'm a true christian and fully believe in God through Jesus Christ. But these christians have it completely wrong. God wants us to be respectful and respect everyone no matter their views and beliefs. Come on guys...can't we just all get along?
@jumpkenny I wish more Christians followed your line of logic, rather than hating what is different. I am not religious, but I know enough about the bible to know that God does not want his followers to hate.
I guess the Statue of Liberty should come down too...huh? give me a break. This is the kind of thing that made me spend thousands of hours researching my former religion (christianity) I found out the Roman Catholic Church invented Christianity for power and control purposes.
@thud007 Actually, if you go deep and do your research, they did invent it. But this is not the right forum for this debate. Potolemy I Soter becomes Serapis via Osirus and Apis, becomes Serapis Christus/Chrestus becomes Jesus Christ then canonized by the ecunemical councils to diefy him and invent the trinity, sonship and several other attributes.
@blatantruth The Roman Catholic Church didn't invent Christianity, they twisted it around and used it for their own gain. What they teach is not Christianity.
OH NO! A statue representing the earth, which nourishes us and which is deserving of thanks... take it down! Let us erect in its place a statue of a "white" Middle Eastern man who allegedly had magical powers thousands of years ago and to whom we all have no relation. Oh, and whose religion authorizes the stoning of disobedient children, etc. YAY!
What makes me angry is that the separation of church and state was created for situations like these. Yes, you can believe in Christianity, but to force the religion's belief on others should be a crime.
this is a tough issue, because i dont think there should be anything wrong with displaying religious images in public places because they're not doing anything to convert people or anything like that. however it is interesting because at the same time, if they had wanted to build a statue of jesus in the park, that never would have been allowed.
Religion, while it is in some ways becoming less popular among the American general public, is a way for people to stick together and organize themselves to help the world. While I do not believe in a God, most religions offer advice to live by to make the world a better place if the religion is observed as intended; such as Christianity. However, THIS, quite frankly, is bullshit.
So a group of crazy Baptists protest outside the funeral of fallen soldiers and it's freedom of speech. A religious group has a statue and it has to fall because it's against God? Are you kidding me?
@PinkSparkleChld the statue was removed for more than because it was against God. It would be unconstitutional if it were the only reason. it is disgusting that the baptist funeral protesters are legally allowed to do what they do, but thats the way it is.
As an Atheist I really don't give a fuck. I more care about the scientific nature of the things they teach in this park rather then bias religious beliefs
People aren't happy unless they are bitching about something. Who cares if a statue was there especially in the middle of nowhere, what bearing does that have on the Christians of that town, just like the Atheists who are trying to get the word God and anything religious out of currency and court ect, people aren't happy unless they are bitching. Like me bitching about these bitchers.
Im a christian, and all i gots to say is that LET them keep the statue, its just a symbol for Mother earth, nothing wrong with it! Its not ganna hurt anybody! This is America, FREEDOM OF RELIGION!
So because this goes against one religion this gives another religion the right to take it down? Close minded Christians will be the death of this nation. Who are you to A) go against the constitution this country itself was founded on, and B) condemn others because they believe differently than you. We are no longer in the crusades people. Religious tolerance is a must.
and before you bash me, I would say my religious beliefs fall towards the Christian religion more than anything else.
this kind of stuff makes me sick.... it is truly sad that even though america should be a nation with freedom of religion that Christians continue to have the most say in the country. its sad that everyone cant just deal with eachother and let everyone else do what they want... its not like they were forcing you to believe in anything..
these people who wanted this park 2 close and the statue 2 go down are nuts its freedom of speech and u cant in america make it so that 1 religion can over power another in a court of law
Why not just make mother earth as a gaint global. They could of said that the statue represent Mary as being the mother of the earth for having given birth to Jesus who
Is saved earth. That might of got the nut christians to stop being so negative
dude this is kind of like the whole prop 8 thing, except with out marriage but with religion. a bunch of die hard people of one religion bagging on another religion. people should not be able to use their religion as a way to bring down other peoples religion. that one guy who was like im happy im intolerant is a real piece of work along with that other lady who said the statue wouldn't bring blessings, its a statue.
It is so so painful to watch such ignorance. There are other more progressive states where i think this wouldn't have happened and it's sad that diversity and tolerance in the united states is so dependent on where you live. I think the only way to teach people tolerance is to peacefully expose them to ideas different than their own which seems to be what was happening. It really struck me when that woman said her god HATES idols. I don't hate anything, let alone does my concept of god.
We have freedom of religion in this country. I don't associate myself with religion, I personally have quite the negative view on it. However, I believe in being free to believe what you want to believe, whether that be in Christ, Buddha , etc. This garbage has to stop, everyone has a right to have their idols, whoever it may be.
I noticed on Google earth/maps that there is the "Katus bar" about 6 blocks away. I doubt the Fellowship Church raised any issue about that location despite, the Bible's warning to abstain from all drunkenness. Eph. 5: 18
And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit.
In short, this isn't about God's will, this is about religious intolerance.
I agree.. the statue should not be there. People are very stupid, especially when it comes to religious situations and it would really confuse some people (maybe even children).
this is pointless, in the end these things don't matter. you can do whatever you want to me, but i will always be free to be who i am on the inside.........live your life without boundaries, and life is limitless.
The trouble it seems is that the park was put smack dab next to a certain church. Had the park been in a place more obscure, I doubt there would be as much of an issue. Perhaps the park could be moved and renamed. Even so, it is odd considering the Bible is chalk full of anti-Hebrew intolerance; from Abraham to John's Revelations. I supposed they skipped all of those sections before taking the park down. Even so the groups with idols, the Bible reads that God tore down the idols not men.
Yea fuck mother earth, the magic man in the sky FORBIDS STATUES. Spawned from demons! We, of the double digit IQ, under teh one true God Jeezus Kryst, will feel his warm liquid pouring over our bodies. It is thick, but not too thick.
@juanfjaramillo All of the Mayan books but 4 were burned by the arch bishop in about 1570 or so. for the same reasons. We lost almost everything from an entire nation as a result.
@Bureyeanne The Tao Fellowship should inform the neighboring church that their cross, is actually the sign of the sun god Horus, which is in essence an idol. Constantine bridged the area religions into one unified ergo "Catholic" church. Of course, logic and reason don't apply in emotional decisions, do they?
@Bureyeanne Also, this idea of no graven image seems interesting to me. The passage as I understand is referring to having one worship the image before or instead, or in replacement to God. I don't know that anyone was preforming any rituals at this location. Yet lots of so called Christians don't have trouble with paintings, movies, plays, mimes, sculptures etc. This scream intolerance more than it whispers a love of God.
When are we in the US going to stop with this craziness? Any and all religions don't need to be mixed in with Government at all levels. No this is NOT a Christian country nor was never implied or stated to be a Christian country. The 1st amendment is quite clear about this. Anyone can do as they please with regards to their beliefs or lack of belief. It protects everyone. Preach whatever you want on your own time. Government has enough to do without muddling things with religions.
I understand that not all Christians are this close-minded, but it is people like that who really make me resent the religion as a whole. I just can't believe someone can say such xenophobic and bigoted things without even realizing it is wrong.
@God1stcountry2nd Honoring Christmas or Easter does not make us a Christian nation any more than honoring Black history month makes us an African nation. This is an inclusive nation according to the Constitution. Try reading it. As a Christian you'll hate it because it says we are free to disobey ANY religious BS - including Christian BS. And of course, I'm flawed - God made me - and He fucks up almost everything.
I'm a Christian & my God doesn't hate idols he just teaches not to worship them. Overall I think that statue should stay. Anyone who thinks different is a bigot and a hater!
@God1stcountry2nd This is NOT a Christian nation. Nor is it a pedophile nation. Sure there are members of both groups here (some belong to both groups). But, it is a FREE nation where expression is to be permitted. Perod. Even expression against the Christian church. This was the church once again urinating on the Constitution.
It's called permits, religious bigots would have had no influence if the park had been properly and lawfully planned and constructed. DUH!!!!!!! Get the paperwork done first!!!!! This was not about prejudice!
It is shocking how some "Christians", can quote scripture and not know what it means or what Jesus' clear intent was. This statue represented EARTH - not some imaginary crap. We SHOULD idolize Earth. It is our Mother. Why would our Father not want us to "worship" Him AND our Mother? Looks to me like insecure men who are uncomfortable with a big strong woman.
As a Christian, I fear instead of what Jesus asks us to do as His people, we get caught up in stuff like this. Paul never tried to remove idols from temples in the areas he preached. Christ told CHRISTIANS to worship Him...and be an example. This is the kind of stuff Satan loves to get us mixed up in--dangle earthly issues so we forget the heavenly ones, and thus make Christ and following Him less desirable.
@icemilitia I never said the founding fathers didn't mention "Creator" or were atheists, but that the Constitution didn't mention Christianity or god. This is the document that founded our country and is the foundation for our rights, like the right to and from religion found in the 1st Amendment. The personal faith of the founding fathers is irrelevant, some were deist but that doesn't mean America is a Deist nation. America is and hopefully will always be a Secular Constitutional Republic...
I am a Christian, but I also know the benefits of such a beautiful park. This nation was founded on the idea of religious freedom for EVERYONE, and we could all learn from other religions. I wish narrow-minded Christians wouldn't give us all a bad name.
@10icbelle ditto ! I'm a follower of christ too ! Freedom of Religion ! means the right to worship what ,where and how they may is what the 1st adm. state's . those's people running amuck on blind teachings of the doctrine's of man not Christ . Christ said you will know another by the fruits they bare . hate,fear and ignorance is not of Christ nor a sign of living his teachings .
@rbvmtr - I agree with you. The Christians here mean well, but they don't realize how much they discredit their own religion. How would they feel if someone demanded that Catholics get rid of a statue of Mary? Or if Protestant Churches remove a Cross from their own property? I suppose ignorance & bigotry are human tendencies.
fuck your god, mother earth is all you have and all you have to fear upsetting. why do you care whats out there for you when you die when your home now is mother earth? coexist. mother earth ftw.
Now we're not seeing the whole story here in thi sclip. We don't know what made the decision. Having said that , if it was on the basis of the religious testimomny giving at the zoning meeting than once again the constitution has been thwarted by religious zealots. I couldn't help notice there were three large crosses on the site in one shot. Have they been removed as well.
Keep your gods out of my policies.
MrFishonfish 8 months ago
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MrRedPajamas 1 year ago
There's a Mago religion? O.K....
What if my friends and I decided that we should build a "porno" park, and we erected a 39 foot tall phallis?
Would that be acceptable?
MrRedPajamas 1 year ago
@MrRedPajamas It's Tao.
PObserver 1 year ago
i think its an amazing thing for them to protest...i dont believe in mother earth,im some form of christian...ppl can protest what they want or believe what they want,but i feel personally...let anyone believe what they want,if u dont like it...dont go there..leave and never come back
Vampirewhore27 1 year ago
I'm a christian, but i'm also an american. this is very very wrong. it's a park and a statue, if you don't like it don't go there.
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NavyZach01 1 year ago
@xgotarox
I'm sure these morons out there protesting poor "Mago" being torn down would be cheering if a Jesus statue was being taken down.
It works both ways, don't think these people are super tolerant like they'd have you believe.
zacockerpball 1 year ago
Dumb video! But my comment would be if the deal went through proper channels so be it. As far as the religious fanatics saying no idols please.... the Pilgrims and Puritans left the Old World to come to the New World to have religious freedom! That's what makes America so great. You don't have religous police running around drawing up the rules!
peatea98 1 year ago
This is what's wrong with America. There are a bunch of ignorant, intolerant, stupid people who belive that what they think is the only right thing.
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MrRedFredSaid 1 year ago
who owns the property?
rabidchevy 1 year ago
@rabidchevy - the tao fellowship owns the property. In other words, they erected a statue on their own land. Privately owned land. The Tao Fellowship voluntarily removed the statue at their own expense.
MrRedFredSaid 1 year ago
What the fuck is a Mago?
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musicfan088 1 year ago
what is mago?....
keithahfua 1 year ago
im glad they close and took out stupid demond mago people jesus loveyou mago dont take you to haven. find somet. better to do...
willys50 1 year ago
If you want the freedom to build as you wish, you move out to bigger spots of land in rural areas and away from the snobs in the city. Thats the way Americans have been doing it for years, you're not special because you're minorites, lots of people get screwed by zoning and HOA busybodies.
jimbad05 1 year ago
I don't understand how Mago is an idol. Do people worship her? It seems as though she's more of an icon for the Earth, to me. Am I wrong in this?
I'm not sure on the entire story, so I may be wrong, but it seems as though Mago is about as much of an idol as Mickey Mouse or Bugs Bunny. No one is idolizing it at all. Am I wrong in this?
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pat656 1 year ago
Re: mago statue--it is interesting to note that in virginia, on I-81, at both the south and north ends, there are giant crosses. i think that they are intended to be symbols of jesus and christianity. It is not any big deal, though. they are just huge, enormous crosses. has anyone ever noted in the southeast, the array of three crosses that appear on many hills? what do they mean?
shkyrbty 1 year ago
Private or not, Mago and its affiliate groups are spiritual capitalists and utilize unethical tactics to ensnare people into spending more money into their organizations. I could care less about a statue- its the fact that people are willing to stage themselves as 'realized masters' for lots of cash and power.
nowthatthatsthat 1 year ago
@xgotarox lol okay, now you're just trolling, so I'm done here. There's no bowing or praying to crosses, there's not even bowing in church. There's no way you could know that little, so I'm going to assume you're just out to troll me.
Nice talking to you.
JerryChristia 1 year ago
@xgotarox No, we don't worship crosses or statues. We don't bow to them, pray to them, or worship them. Crosses are symbols, not idols.
JerryChristia 1 year ago
If a group of Christian's put up a huge statue of Jesus in a park in any town of America, there would be an outcry from every lib from Maine to California of separation of church and state! But when Christian's use the same so-called law, they are called Nazi's. What hypocrites!
mvies77 1 year ago
@mvies77 - except the mago statue was on private property. The Earth Park is on land owned by the Tao Fellowship. If that happened to Christians, you'd hear a lot of pissing and moaning. The TF instead chose to simply remove a statue - off their own property. So......... ummm....yeah.
MrRedFredSaid 1 year ago
@MrRedFredSaid You think that has not happened to Christian's or private citizens in several cases on their private property. Property itself has been removed from citizens.This is the result of all the years of persecution and atheists bringing law suits. Now everyone's freedom has been affected and lost. Where was everyone else when these rights were taken. Nowhere, because who cares about religion.
mvies77 1 year ago
@mvies77 - bullshit.
MrRedFredSaid 1 year ago
@MrRedFredSaid Really? Then where is your statue?
mvies77 1 year ago
@xgotarox If by "idolize" you mean "worship", we're intended to "idolize" our God, yes.
But we don't worship inanimate objects.
JerryChristia 1 year ago
ya no one derserves a statue if that main sagat
Unicron 1 year ago
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Unicron 1 year ago
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Saske3025 1 year ago
Bleh, all religions are fucking stupid. Why not just make it a fucking normal park?
MegaGewehr 1 year ago
I think stupid liberals brought it onto themselves. if people weren't crying over having to put up with your neighbor's Christmas lights, or trying to take God out of everything... there would not be any base for this incident. You can't expect to agravate people and not have them act on it. IT sucks! Also, it was the city's decision... at the end this is democracy ... and decisions are not made to please the few... doing otherwise is not fair, for the majority.
4shnoogue 1 year ago
Doesn't Christianity hold unity and acceptance as two of it's dearest principles?
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TeeAreify 1 year ago
delete me cause mago sux
ImDiscombobulated 1 year ago
1:39 "I don't want no statue." Hmmm...?
iBaNezRG95 1 year ago
Haha. Nice one Amercans. Bonafide freedom of religion I'd say.
iBaNezRG95 1 year ago
...death to all...
poluBOG 1 year ago
I can't believe this! This is so ironic I thought Christians should fight for freedom of religion since they are allowed to express and spread their own believes, but this show that these so called "Christians" can be as hateful as Nazis. They are just oppressing a different point of view that doesn't affect them what so ever.
greekmathician 1 year ago
oh!
shahzad123456756565 1 year ago
Religious discrimination had nothing to do with it... I go to the Catholic church right next door and I had no problem with the statue untill I found out that they didn't have the proper paper work to have the statue up.. That church is new, they waited nearly 5 yrs to get the paper work to build the church and it just isn't right to put that statue up w/out permission from the town. It was an eye-sore and it disturbed the flow of the environment...
mattymush13 1 year ago
@mattymush13 you got it
WILDWOODislandder 1 year ago
Well good. Does this mean I can tear down every scenery-killing cross and Church billboard that tells me Jesus want me to burn in hell if I don't come inside and throw some money in the plate? They should replace it with a giant George Carlin statue.
defexorcist 1 year ago
It was not an "educational community park", it was a propaganda park to espouse and promote one certain point of view. I'm so sick of hearing about the environment and "community." Look after yourself and your surroundings and that's enough. Don't force your point of view on me. Love, a conservative atheist.
justgonnastay 1 year ago
goddamn dirty hippy wetback spics and stupid ass conservative neo nazi honkeys this is why i hate people, FUCK MAGO AND JESUS
slurinmoderation 1 year ago
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WILDWOODislandder 1 year ago
It amazes me how these "Christians" will claim that this statue needs to be taken down because Jesus condemns idol worship, while they themselves will put a crucifix/cross on top of and inside their church which in itself is also a form of idol worship.
If you're gonna call yourself a Christian at least read the bible, understand what it says, and apply it. Jesus taught that God hates idol worship, but he didn't go around disrespecting other peoples beliefs and tearing down their idols.
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WILDWOODislandder 1 year ago
@WILDWOODislandder You're just trying to start a fight. Stop making yourself look like an idiot.
DarthEthong467 1 year ago
It amazes me how these "Christians" will claim that this statue needs to be taken down because their Jesus condemns idol worship, while they themselves will put a crucifix/cross on top of and inside their church which in itself is also a form of idol worship.
If you're gonna call yourself a Christian at least read the bible, understand what it says, and apply it. Jesus taught that God hates idol worship, but he didn't go around disrespecting other peoples beliefs and tearing down their idols.
DarthEthong467 1 year ago
eww
macaroni191 1 year ago
He without sin cast the first stone my friends.
WonderfulMrShyne 1 year ago
You know what the best line is? the most twisted and biased line in the entire clip? "If its offensive to God, its Offensive to me." Read it again. See what he did there? What a Cunt.
TheLoneAdvocator 1 year ago
Some people are just biased, biggoted, pigs who won't even take the blame for what their saying. "If it's offensive to god"- how the hell do they know its offensive to god? I mean really? In the bible he said that he didn't want to be idolized, not that all other idols are offensive, or outlawed, or wrong. I know that- and im NOT even a GOD DAMN CHRISTIAN
Yamikro 1 year ago
I wonder how many of these people actually used the park? There's no reason to have a giant statue like that in the park. If nothing else it just looks stupid. These same people would be going nuts if there was a giant Jesus statue in a public park even though according to others religious views, He's who created the earth... not some idol named "Mago".
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urmomisgone 1 year ago
this is disgusting, plain english. our country is about letting everyone believe what they want to believe. what? do we all have to be christian to live in this country, now? Those christians are crazy and need to get that 2000 year old pole out of their asses.
mikemags1 1 year ago
all of you guys are totally off.the town did not give legal permission for the statues except temporary permission for the Mago statue.the statues also used illegal building materials. on top of that the zoning for the area was "Agricultural-Residential-70" so the park was in the wrong zone too. If a church was built in the wrong zone with the wrong building materials and received no permission from the town to do so, then it would be torn down too. and I doubt you would see all these protestors
dh3684 1 year ago
How come a non-Christian can protest something they don't believe and they get support, but when a Christian protests something they don't believe they get put down?
MissBuggy95 1 year ago
@MissBuggy95 Because religion and state are separate. Separate. It is illegal for the government to favor one religion over the other. This was a state decision that was made for religious reasons. Secular protests don't violate that law and are typically more about the law itself than faith.
MediocreGenius 1 year ago
wow, i can't believe they did it, its about spirituality, love for land, earth, nature, not gods !!!
purplemagic7 1 year ago
And yet again, I find myself not believing in the intolerance of humanity. If they decided to take down a statue that represented the planet on which we live, or as they say in my church "our island home" (and yes I am a Christian), then why don't they take down all the crosses around as well. And all the American flags. Or better yet, every symbol we as humans hold dear to our diversity should be removed. There is no logic behind this action, only hate for something they don't understand.
randuminsanity 1 year ago 3
@randuminsanity Exactly. Did you notice the crossed in the background? What hypocrites.
MediocreGenius 1 year ago
I'm a true christian and fully believe in God through Jesus Christ. But these christians have it completely wrong. God wants us to be respectful and respect everyone no matter their views and beliefs. Come on guys...can't we just all get along?
jumpkenny 1 year ago
@jumpkenny I wish more Christians followed your line of logic, rather than hating what is different. I am not religious, but I know enough about the bible to know that God does not want his followers to hate.
MediocreGenius 1 year ago
Did anyone think to contact the ACLU?
thud007 1 year ago
i had no idea there was a cottonwood in Arizona and i live here. haha
beverlybreeze3 1 year ago
i guess there is no such thing as freedom of religion in this country
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Pink92Eli 1 year ago
i didnt see anything wrong with it, its just a statue that cant bother anyone, no real reason to tear it down because some crazies dont like it,
ted1165 1 year ago
I guess the Statue of Liberty should come down too...huh? give me a break. This is the kind of thing that made me spend thousands of hours researching my former religion (christianity) I found out the Roman Catholic Church invented Christianity for power and control purposes.
blatantruth 1 year ago
@blatantruth the Roman Catholic church did not invent Christianity, they basterdized it.
thud007 1 year ago
@thud007 Actually, if you go deep and do your research, they did invent it. But this is not the right forum for this debate. Potolemy I Soter becomes Serapis via Osirus and Apis, becomes Serapis Christus/Chrestus becomes Jesus Christ then canonized by the ecunemical councils to diefy him and invent the trinity, sonship and several other attributes.
blatantruth 1 year ago
@blatantruth The Roman Catholic Church didn't invent Christianity, they twisted it around and used it for their own gain. What they teach is not Christianity.
DarthEthong467 1 year ago
What's worse than Christians? Hick Christians. How could someone hate something that celebrates harmony. u__u
SuperY4N 1 year ago
OH NO! A statue representing the earth, which nourishes us and which is deserving of thanks... take it down! Let us erect in its place a statue of a "white" Middle Eastern man who allegedly had magical powers thousands of years ago and to whom we all have no relation. Oh, and whose religion authorizes the stoning of disobedient children, etc. YAY!
rememberthiskk 1 year ago
The christian asshole at work here.
blueridger28 1 year ago
Christians have crosses....
imask8erpunk 1 year ago
For the record, People, not all Christians are like that.
thepercussionistME 1 year ago
What makes me angry is that the separation of church and state was created for situations like these. Yes, you can believe in Christianity, but to force the religion's belief on others should be a crime.
DarlingDynomite 1 year ago
this is a tough issue, because i dont think there should be anything wrong with displaying religious images in public places because they're not doing anything to convert people or anything like that. however it is interesting because at the same time, if they had wanted to build a statue of jesus in the park, that never would have been allowed.
skdvr22 1 year ago 2
كس امك يا بنت الوسخه it means we are 1 all in my ass
NOOFFENCESIKE 1 year ago
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vancee3 1 year ago
they call me mago
101mago 1 year ago
They have GOT to get a life.
DammitDrag 1 year ago
They love me!!!!
MAGO2695 1 year ago
Religion, while it is in some ways becoming less popular among the American general public, is a way for people to stick together and organize themselves to help the world. While I do not believe in a God, most religions offer advice to live by to make the world a better place if the religion is observed as intended; such as Christianity. However, THIS, quite frankly, is bullshit.
georgica303 1 year ago 2
So a group of crazy Baptists protest outside the funeral of fallen soldiers and it's freedom of speech. A religious group has a statue and it has to fall because it's against God? Are you kidding me?
PinkSparkleChld 1 year ago 16
@PinkSparkleChld the statue was removed for more than because it was against God. It would be unconstitutional if it were the only reason. it is disgusting that the baptist funeral protesters are legally allowed to do what they do, but thats the way it is.
dh3684 1 year ago
As an Atheist I really don't give a fuck. I more care about the scientific nature of the things they teach in this park rather then bias religious beliefs
iAMsoBEAST1 1 year ago
People aren't happy unless they are bitching about something. Who cares if a statue was there especially in the middle of nowhere, what bearing does that have on the Christians of that town, just like the Atheists who are trying to get the word God and anything religious out of currency and court ect, people aren't happy unless they are bitching. Like me bitching about these bitchers.
egkg75 1 year ago 4
This is absurd!
Im a christian, and all i gots to say is that LET them keep the statue, its just a symbol for Mother earth, nothing wrong with it! Its not ganna hurt anybody! This is America, FREEDOM OF RELIGION!
damn!
BroadCastTuber 1 year ago 3
So because this goes against one religion this gives another religion the right to take it down? Close minded Christians will be the death of this nation. Who are you to A) go against the constitution this country itself was founded on, and B) condemn others because they believe differently than you. We are no longer in the crusades people. Religious tolerance is a must.
and before you bash me, I would say my religious beliefs fall towards the Christian religion more than anything else.
MrRivn 1 year ago 3
We have freedom of religion in our constitution. However God does detest such idols, so, Praise the Lord for this being a christian nation.
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nicolebee101 1 year ago
*sigh*
I'm a Christian, and I have to say...there's idiots in every religion, including mine.
Yeah, Christians aren't supposed to worship idols...but those people weren't Christians, so why tear down their statue?
JerryChristia 1 year ago 23
@JerryChristia i totally agree its something that is theres. Christans don't tear down temples. *sigh*
gbubbles512 1 year ago
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thepercussionistME 1 year ago
this kind of stuff makes me sick.... it is truly sad that even though america should be a nation with freedom of religion that Christians continue to have the most say in the country. its sad that everyone cant just deal with eachother and let everyone else do what they want... its not like they were forcing you to believe in anything..
xXxKeSsLeRxXx1 1 year ago 4
these people who wanted this park 2 close and the statue 2 go down are nuts its freedom of speech and u cant in america make it so that 1 religion can over power another in a court of law
nowrevolution 1 year ago
wow
sur653 1 year ago
Why not just make mother earth as a gaint global. They could of said that the statue represent Mary as being the mother of the earth for having given birth to Jesus who
Is saved earth. That might of got the nut christians to stop being so negative
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gloritec 1 year ago
dude this is kind of like the whole prop 8 thing, except with out marriage but with religion. a bunch of die hard people of one religion bagging on another religion. people should not be able to use their religion as a way to bring down other peoples religion. that one guy who was like im happy im intolerant is a real piece of work along with that other lady who said the statue wouldn't bring blessings, its a statue.
TheStingPlaya 1 year ago
diversity is beautiful
shelby921 1 year ago
Why do people keep using religion as a weapon?
shougo007 1 year ago
It is so so painful to watch such ignorance. There are other more progressive states where i think this wouldn't have happened and it's sad that diversity and tolerance in the united states is so dependent on where you live. I think the only way to teach people tolerance is to peacefully expose them to ideas different than their own which seems to be what was happening. It really struck me when that woman said her god HATES idols. I don't hate anything, let alone does my concept of god.
noraxbeth 1 year ago
Wow why would anyone be against a educational park? Will Disney World and Universal Studios be next?
fallenembers1214 1 year ago
We have freedom of religion in this country. I don't associate myself with religion, I personally have quite the negative view on it. However, I believe in being free to believe what you want to believe, whether that be in Christ, Buddha , etc. This garbage has to stop, everyone has a right to have their idols, whoever it may be.
Jeremy092387 1 year ago
i don't hate God...just hate the followers....as shown in the video...stupid problematic people
brownsuga116 1 year ago
I noticed on Google earth/maps that there is the "Katus bar" about 6 blocks away. I doubt the Fellowship Church raised any issue about that location despite, the Bible's warning to abstain from all drunkenness. Eph. 5: 18
And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit.
In short, this isn't about God's will, this is about religious intolerance.
Bureyeanne 1 year ago
I agree.. the statue should not be there. People are very stupid, especially when it comes to religious situations and it would really confuse some people (maybe even children).
cikitani 1 year ago
It just goes to show that these christians that were complaining are praying to a false god.
TBone5699 1 year ago
this is pointless, in the end these things don't matter. you can do whatever you want to me, but i will always be free to be who i am on the inside.........live your life without boundaries, and life is limitless.
bebegurl31291 1 year ago
@euralj Then Justice and Lady Liberty have to go. OH and so does Mt. Rushmore.
Bureyeanne 1 year ago
People are so stupid. They're not even worshipping anything! Why Christians think they have the absolute truth?
eduardocoldcase 1 year ago 3
The trouble it seems is that the park was put smack dab next to a certain church. Had the park been in a place more obscure, I doubt there would be as much of an issue. Perhaps the park could be moved and renamed. Even so, it is odd considering the Bible is chalk full of anti-Hebrew intolerance; from Abraham to John's Revelations. I supposed they skipped all of those sections before taking the park down. Even so the groups with idols, the Bible reads that God tore down the idols not men.
Bureyeanne 1 year ago
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serkjr 1 year ago
Same Taliban mentality that knocked down the Bamyan Buddhas in Afghanistan. Only difference is these folks are obese, white and have better guns.
landbridge 1 year ago
Bible bigotry rides again!
ginesdepasamonte 1 year ago
@ginesdepasamonte There is a lot of Bigoted anti-Christian Buddhists as well.
Bureyeanne 1 year ago
wizard's park?
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danilo2000b 1 year ago
Yea fuck mother earth, the magic man in the sky FORBIDS STATUES. Spawned from demons! We, of the double digit IQ, under teh one true God Jeezus Kryst, will feel his warm liquid pouring over our bodies. It is thick, but not too thick.
Cdubzhappy 1 year ago
I hope that this fanaticism, don't go to the ancient places of the humanity, as Tikal, or Stonehenge.
Those are the thinks than make me hate the religion.
juanfjaramillo 1 year ago
@juanfjaramillo All of the Mayan books but 4 were burned by the arch bishop in about 1570 or so. for the same reasons. We lost almost everything from an entire nation as a result.
Bureyeanne 1 year ago
@Bureyeanne The Tao Fellowship should inform the neighboring church that their cross, is actually the sign of the sun god Horus, which is in essence an idol. Constantine bridged the area religions into one unified ergo "Catholic" church. Of course, logic and reason don't apply in emotional decisions, do they?
Bureyeanne 1 year ago 2
@Bureyeanne Also, this idea of no graven image seems interesting to me. The passage as I understand is referring to having one worship the image before or instead, or in replacement to God. I don't know that anyone was preforming any rituals at this location. Yet lots of so called Christians don't have trouble with paintings, movies, plays, mimes, sculptures etc. This scream intolerance more than it whispers a love of God.
Bureyeanne 1 year ago
When are we in the US going to stop with this craziness? Any and all religions don't need to be mixed in with Government at all levels. No this is NOT a Christian country nor was never implied or stated to be a Christian country. The 1st amendment is quite clear about this. Anyone can do as they please with regards to their beliefs or lack of belief. It protects everyone. Preach whatever you want on your own time. Government has enough to do without muddling things with religions.
jim6584 1 year ago
I understand that not all Christians are this close-minded, but it is people like that who really make me resent the religion as a whole. I just can't believe someone can say such xenophobic and bigoted things without even realizing it is wrong.
ForgetISaidAnything 1 year ago 2
lol there is like mabye 15 people.
1989Southernboy 1 year ago
<.< I don't get it...Whats makes the statue of mother earth more of an "idol" than the giant Crucifixes you see in churches?
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KevRai666 1 year ago
I love seeing all these heathen get their panties in a wad
icemilitia 1 year ago
@God1stcountry2nd Honoring Christmas or Easter does not make us a Christian nation any more than honoring Black history month makes us an African nation. This is an inclusive nation according to the Constitution. Try reading it. As a Christian you'll hate it because it says we are free to disobey ANY religious BS - including Christian BS. And of course, I'm flawed - God made me - and He fucks up almost everything.
OregonDARRYL 1 year ago
I'm a Christian & my God doesn't hate idols he just teaches not to worship them. Overall I think that statue should stay. Anyone who thinks different is a bigot and a hater!
williambrockett 1 year ago
fuckin hippies.
boonedawg68 1 year ago
laws must apply to everyone equally.
not everyone belives in a christian god.
therefore, you cannot base laws off religion, as they would fail to apply to everyone equally.
anyways, as long as liqour stores are still closed on sundays, stfu.
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PuturaiX 1 year ago
@God1stcountry2nd This is NOT a Christian nation. Nor is it a pedophile nation. Sure there are members of both groups here (some belong to both groups). But, it is a FREE nation where expression is to be permitted. Perod. Even expression against the Christian church. This was the church once again urinating on the Constitution.
OregonDARRYL 1 year ago
It's called permits, religious bigots would have had no influence if the park had been properly and lawfully planned and constructed. DUH!!!!!!! Get the paperwork done first!!!!! This was not about prejudice!
Jalira 1 year ago
It is shocking how some "Christians", can quote scripture and not know what it means or what Jesus' clear intent was. This statue represented EARTH - not some imaginary crap. We SHOULD idolize Earth. It is our Mother. Why would our Father not want us to "worship" Him AND our Mother? Looks to me like insecure men who are uncomfortable with a big strong woman.
OregonDARRYL 1 year ago
@OregonDARRYL
you hit the nail on the head, dude.
peyoteugly 1 year ago
As a Christian, I fear instead of what Jesus asks us to do as His people, we get caught up in stuff like this. Paul never tried to remove idols from temples in the areas he preached. Christ told CHRISTIANS to worship Him...and be an example. This is the kind of stuff Satan loves to get us mixed up in--dangle earthly issues so we forget the heavenly ones, and thus make Christ and following Him less desirable.
bigvirgotube 1 year ago 12
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parkspot22 1 year ago
The repression of a religion or a people during a time of economic stress is EXACTLY how the Holocaust began.
This is offensive to the Goddess and therefore offensive to me.
xandriathegreat 1 year ago
@God1stcountry2nd This nation is not a Christian nation and was founded on a secular Constitution which doesn't mention Christianity or god.
jlabrecque1 1 year ago
@jlabrecque1
\Founding fathers did mention Creator, and they did believe in God
icemilitia 1 year ago
@icemilitia I never said the founding fathers didn't mention "Creator" or were atheists, but that the Constitution didn't mention Christianity or god. This is the document that founded our country and is the foundation for our rights, like the right to and from religion found in the 1st Amendment. The personal faith of the founding fathers is irrelevant, some were deist but that doesn't mean America is a Deist nation. America is and hopefully will always be a Secular Constitutional Republic...
jlabrecque1 1 year ago
I thought mago meant wizard???
FarangBalls 1 year ago
@FarangBalls that might be mage
russruss1234 1 year ago
was this a federally funded, or even a state funded park? If so, then I have heard of the same thing happening to crosses.
If it is private, then this is screwed up.
aekdbbop 1 year ago
@aekdbbop Good point. The government can not endorse any religion.
jlabrecque1 1 year ago
People like thos Christians should die in pain and agony, they are wortless pice of shit and bring nothing good to this earth, fucking shit heads
songsinlife 1 year ago 2
I am a Christian, but I also know the benefits of such a beautiful park. This nation was founded on the idea of religious freedom for EVERYONE, and we could all learn from other religions. I wish narrow-minded Christians wouldn't give us all a bad name.
10icbelle 1 year ago 2
@10icbelle ditto ! I'm a follower of christ too ! Freedom of Religion ! means the right to worship what ,where and how they may is what the 1st adm. state's . those's people running amuck on blind teachings of the doctrine's of man not Christ . Christ said you will know another by the fruits they bare . hate,fear and ignorance is not of Christ nor a sign of living his teachings .
rbvmtr 1 year ago 13
@rbvmtr - I agree with you. The Christians here mean well, but they don't realize how much they discredit their own religion. How would they feel if someone demanded that Catholics get rid of a statue of Mary? Or if Protestant Churches remove a Cross from their own property? I suppose ignorance & bigotry are human tendencies.
MrRedFredSaid 1 year ago 3
fuck your god, mother earth is all you have and all you have to fear upsetting. why do you care whats out there for you when you die when your home now is mother earth? coexist. mother earth ftw.
californication60 1 year ago
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