Susan Atkins, Roman Polanski, the Manson Family, and the Occult

[angerjohn]

Where can I find more information on Polanski's occult connections as well as Manson's affiliations. I have been looking at the whole case for some time now and I agree there is much more to these murders than the general public knows about or wants to know about. I am mainly referring to your statement that Manson is deeply connected to occult events in the 20th century

[tenebroust]

@angerjohn Peter Levenda's "Sinister Forces" books and check in with Adam Gorightly as well.

[demolishionhammer]

im starting to think how your kinda thinking on this but i have no proof of this something just does not set right with me seemd to me like a satanic ritual killing cutting of the unborn child im telling you that just evil right there that just reeks of occultism Roman Polanski, friends with aton lavay rose merrys baby Eye of the Devil with Sharon in it whats with all the satanism mmmm strange i may be wrong i think if we are going to look in to this it should be from every angle

[tenebroust]

@demolishionhammer I agree there are very distinct ritual elements involved. It is a case that fascinates and Polanski is a character.

[demolishionhammer]

this is very interesting iv looked over every manson video i can find and people that were involved and started looking at Roman Polanski, as well looking at the movies he did looking at the style of the killing of tate tates killing to me seemd more like a satanic ritual killing but i just put that in the back of my mind i have no proof of that but it does make me wonder if there is more to this story something just doesnt set right with me on this whole manson case but i may never know

[MikeRadmann]

sometimes you hurt my head; not that i disagree. LOL

Keep speaking. some of us are simply tired

Peace and Love

[annahudson76]

your full of crap for one thing the murders happened in 1069 not 1968,the autopsy showed that sharon tate had no drugs in her what so ever the baby was a fully formed healthy baby boy and sharon was not into the accult ,she was a very nieve and sweet lady how dare you make more rummors .

[tenebroust]

@annahudson76 wow! She was killed in 1069, almost 1000 years ago? If you refer to the house number it was 10069. As for autopsy results they are meaningless in the context of this video. The fact is that several of those killed in that murder spree were known drug dealers or users. They were her friends its not a far jump to assume she did drugs herself, even that is not wholly relevant here. There is no doubt that Sharon was somewhat naive though but Roman most certainly was not.

[annahudson76]

@tenebroust ok so I did a typo 1969,well I did hear that Roman was friends with La vey the satanist it started with the making of rosemarys baby he wanted help which i find wierd ,yeh sharon wanted to get the folgers out of her home and jay subring he was a user and a dealer. but sharon loved roman so much she tried to make things work she was pregnant so she kept trying to make it work.but in no way was sharon involved with anything roman being a holicost survivor as a kid might messed him up

[tenebroust]

@annahudson76 Did you know Sharon Tate personally? If so your input would be even more important.

[annahudson76]

@tenebroust I didnt know her personally but a couple of friends i knew when i lived in L.A.theyre parents knew her she grew up in the neighborhood and they claim she would give you the shirt off her back by what theyre parents and sisters say they said she was sweet pretty and very nieve.and softspoken,

[annahudson76]

@tenebroust charlie wanted to get back at terry melcher from the beach boys he made him think he would give him a record deal but melcher didnt like charlie and he lived in the house before sharon tate did so basically they killed the wrong people.

[Mr1979longhorn]

I cant wait until you make another video on this very topic.... best thing on youtube

[LetET2010]

love the intro.....

[phospholipasec]

I wonder how many of these occultic type fellows with zero morality exist in high up places. it's part of their methods to attaining relentless power and maintaining it; they must not only have zero moral conceptions,but they must perform the antithesis of the masses' moral conceptions in order to rule thoroughly.The more we think "abomination", the more they gain in some spiritually exalting, dark realm; this gives them the ability to act out roles in societal sham-games with zero conscience.

[tenebroust]

@phospholipasec I think you've answered your own question. A lot.

[Truthiracy2]

Good Job! I have a MIND BLOWING VIDEO coming that will make you drop your jaw!

Peace, Love & Wisdom, Truthiracy

[reesescupbrandy1]

I may sound crazy, but I think Roman has knowledge about his wife's murder. Someone told me there's documented proof that Roman was spending time with Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme in a hotel room. I've heard that Roman has connections with occult also. I've seen the crime scene it didn't look like an ordinary murder, it looked like a ritual killing.

[tenebroust]

@reesescupbrandy1 It's not crazy at all. It's exactly why I did this video because of the very things you mention in your comment, except for the Polanski-Squeaky connection which I had not heard before.

[Silvertrine]

Actually Kenneth Anger is the spider, the center that everything radiates off of. How is this fact? Anger is strutting around LA still. Manson is rotting in jail. The center of these things doesnt end up in prison.

[tenebroust]

Anger is certainly a pivotal figure.

[garyj79]

Theres a lot of rumours regarding Sharon Tate.....but thats just what they are RUMOURS - theres plenty of people on here who claim things with fuck all to back them up!

[poacher701]

that's very true. with all these stories the case has become so bloated that telling the truth from lies and rumors is impossible and more are coming with the new authors who claim bogus. if it can't be backed up it has no value even if it may be true.

[rataMacue22]

Interesting

[nwofromoldbabylon]

sure he knows, just refer to its movies 'The Ninth Gate or rosemarys baby and all of its pictures in fact, period!.

now about general de gaulle, i don t know the book you are reading but Charles de Gaulle was the illuminati ' head on french side .... winners always write (hi)story as you know...and de gaulle is still untouchable even if he was the bangsters' french front man. the real nazi with UK & US fellows behind smoke and mirrors puppetAdolf. biggest that manson polanski...lol

[tenebroust]

Apparently the guy living in the guest house said he didn't hear anything and it was always a point of controversy as most didn't believe him and that he knew something that he wasn't telling.

[poacher701]

he later changed what his initial statements were. he heard noises and screams and locked his door. everyone would in his shoes but you still can find armchair warriors on the net accusing him of cowardliness. his saw the door handle move up and down but the door was closed and the party went away.

[tenebroust]

I wouldn't try to hold him accountable for being afraid to come forward. I just state the facts at the time and the real possibility that he knew something that he wasn't telling.

[poacher701]

he admitted later that he cheated the polygraph.

he glanced trough a window when Abigail was running and shouting 'i am already dead' the words didn't make sense to him he returned to listen to his music. then he saw the door handle move up and down the door were closed he wouldn't open them.

he must have seen and heard more than that that's what he told second time around anyway

[tenebroust]

Ed Sanders' "The Family" which is somewhat sensationalistic. Adam Gorightley's "Shadow over Santa Susanna"

[poacher701]

Never heard about the police receiving any calls - where did you get it from? the police had been receiving memos weeks before the hit about Manson's dirty dealings and done nothing ( even thou he'd been on parole) but it's first time i read about the police receiving calls that night Who from?

His involvement with Hollywood is well known, yet no ties to the murders

[tenebroust]

The involvement of Manson with the murders do you mean? It's true that he didn't actually kill any of the people he is in prison for killing, that is pretty much accepted fact. Though there are people who think Manson is guilty of some deaths himself.

[poacher701]

screams were muffed by the surroundings the pad sat in a gully trees around. with a gov hit, police wouldn't be involved - too many possibly leaks. a drug burn is likely but no prove of such Manson has won no evidence for the motive no evidence for his meeting any of the victims ahead of the hit. Strangely Polanski never mentions any friends from the time all has been erased and razed to the ground

[BrodyLuv2]

Manson and Crowley.

Good Post Dark n' Gloomy..We'll have to see.

Cheers.

BL2.

[TheCephalizedOne]

Hey I have a few questions? Where did you pull up that information regarding the blackmail home movies at the tate and polanski residence and all the other weird shit they were involved in? Were these just stories by people or is there hard evidence that all this weird shit occurred?

[tenebroust]

Reading books on the subject. Currently Adam Gorightly's; The Shadow over Santa Susana: Black Magic, Mind Control & the Manson Family Mythos. Also Ed Sanders'; The Family. There's much more too.

[tenebroust]

Gorightley in his book talks of the movies and Ed Sanders says they are real and has seen them, but it is all unproven though widely accepted by some.

[bunzombie]

last i checked manson's next parole date is September 2012, coincidence , i think not. john todd said the nwo would have to take americas weapons then manson would be released from prison to lead helter skelter on earth.

[tenebroust]

Manson will never be released, in my opinion.

[bunzombie]

he wasnt looking like much of a helter skelter raiser in his last photo. but then again he kills with his mind. i found your video interesting and remembered what i heard on a johnny todd video. I dont know either way I'm just sitt'n back watch'n

[mikwid]

I don't think he'd make it down the street....

[poacher701]

polanski allowed a documentary on HBO to come out last year showing his one time prosecutors as incompetent crooks. me thinks it was behind the arrest. that vid has opened an ancient can of worms owoa he is going to pay for buggery unless he has anything of value that may buy him freedom

nothing against him from '69 clean as a well hundreds of leads has gone nowhere buggery drugs anything expected to materialize of fantasy pure sham

good site btw

[tenebroust]

Indeed it may be so. But there is no question that at the least he was into some bizarre stuff.

[poacher701]

the most bizarre stuff he pulled off was that he became famous. If you look up his and Sharons interview with the Playboy on you tube, you will see them riding the bullet stoned to the brim on TV. But such was the time everyone could do stuff and get away with it. nothing extraordinary given the particular way-point on the time line

[tenebroust]

This is true, just like it was fashionable for people to belong to the Church of Satan for a time.

[mikwid]

Gotta say, you always give me interesting things to think about...intriguing!

[anutarasamyat]

you just gave me a fabulous idea... will let you know how it works out. .. Tau

[rikestard]

Thnx sheriff for the info, I didn't know anything on this subject.

[db501]

This is total nonsense. Inferring correlation and even causation of two events from the fact that random events have certain probability distribution just indicates you have no clue about math and statistics.

[bambizzoozled]

You're an ass if you think this is nonsense. You are simply blind. I see synchronicity on a constant basis.

[tenebroust]

I approach the issue from more of an intuitive angle. Rather than a math and statistic angle. It's equally probable that 1 million flips of a quarter will get you all heads as it is any other combination but if it happened I'd be looking for some weirdness around it. Scoff if you like, it may turn out to be nothing.

[angelinatiger]

thanks for this amazing vlog. i was wondering WHY Polanski was being demanded, forced to come back to the usa. i mean, the girl he did it too already said it is past news. she is thru with it. there is definitely something to this and with squeaky being released, atkins dying. yes.

i just love your vids. i would like more on this subject of manson because i feel that there is alot of stuff that is linked to him in so many ways in the usa. have always been suspicious of him "ordering" it.

[tenebroust]

There are conflicting stories on that issue. Manson and others have denied it at times and have been cryptically accepting at others. The truth is hard to discern. One thing is certain that at times Manson was keen to keep his family from too much trouble because he didn't want to go back to prison. That certainly could have changed as his paranoia level grew, but who knows?

[TRUTHbe4yourEYES]

Manson was a friend of Polanski, that has always bothered me, I always felt Polanski got Manson to kill Tate because if you dig deep Tate said Polanski didn't want to be a Father, he was bugged out about it and was not coming around her or the house. Then look at the rape of the young girl. There is a connection for sure

[tenebroust]

It's possible they knew each other though as far as I'm aware there is no direct evidence. The idea that Polanski was weird-ed out by being a father seems to be true. There is more to the story in the way of what Polanski was up to at the house on Cielo drive, supposed "buggery movies", dope burns, and cultic stuff. Manson had been to that address many times before Polanski moved in.

[Frequencitee]

A few pages read of Memories, Dreams, and Reflections by Carl Jung, with a backdrop of The Police - Synchronicity was a trigger for me. It shifted my perspective.

Imagine Polanski in prison, awaiting arraignment and a book deal wherein he names names. He is diagnosed with brain cancer and later dies in prison. No book. No tell-all.

Do not despair. Synchronicity has a way achieving a balance.

[5starrater1]

I think you are onto something.

Really appreciate you doing these videos - making me think of different stuff.

[tburke64]

Indeed it makes us wonder if Manson wasn't as nuts as we have always been programmed to think. 40 years later, I know I would love to see it unfold.

[Neurolanis]

Absolutely agree that nothing is random. I have experienced a lot of synchronicities in my life in recent months. A lot.

That is an interesting observation. Maybe he will.

[WW3hasalreadybegun]

Interesting stuff, thanks.

[tenebroust]

Thanks for watching bud.

[paintingmymasterpiec]

Hi Ted Great vid as usual. You are very insightful. Have you ever looked at the work of Mae Brussel?It's dynamite. If you are the type that likes to do a little digging, she is the woman to listen to. Her website is still up. The same as her name. She talks about Manson, the local police, Hollywood and politics. It's hot stuff.

[tenebroust]

I like Brussel, she was the queen of conspiracy for years.

[tenagliac]

It was probably a number of people passing that made certain 'deals' no longer held, and thus apprehension was less risky that it might have been 10-20 years ago. You are probably right that there are more deals to be made as well.

[tenebroust]

This is usually the case.

[rockhardxrocker]

I love when you get into the occult.

[tenebroust]

There's so much to this story but it would take too long to tell.

[EartherZero]

I wish you would make more videos like this.  Not only on this subject but some of the more esoteric information you pursue.

[tenebroust]

I plan to.

[hellavadeal]

May the wheels of justice roll on

[tenebroust]

Indeed.

[skybirdbird]

Interesting........

[tenebroust]

Thanks.

[GODSDARKFIST]

i really enjoyed this vid,idk Manson was so influential,bein 26 i dont know much, but ill look into it, ur intro is epic as well, volume doesn't bother me but watvr, vid so faved

[GnikNusEht]

there is a very well done, move/documentary by the history channel on the Manson/Polanski/Beatles/other connections.

it breaks it down quite simply

it is fairly new, aired only a few weeks ago, so it's not one of the other movies made on it.

try google for the vid... very good, and straight to the point of the whole issue.

[tenebroust]

Thanks I'll look into it.

[XjbiggsxX]

second comment...

[tenebroust]

Thanks for watching, your comment is now first thanks to youtube's comment problem.

[tenebroust]

Now it's not anymore as the first comments have returned.

[readywerx]

bang on!

[finanelly1]

yeah...tene ROCKS

[tenebroust]

Thank you.