JWQ #4: Do You Worship a "Pagan" Trinity? #3 of 4

[kittycatearmode]

I dont want to ask you I want you to stop cuming to my hous and hurasing me I am pagan leve me alone. )o(

[kombatzero]

this women is hilarious she has no clue what she is talking about -- stick to your house work lady and forget the bible --

[maxydog]

JW have an entire book called Reasoning with the scriptures that is designed to convert people and argues against the Trinity and many other doctrines that JW don't agree with - so don't be such a hypocrite. JW are the most outspoken against ALL religions. So I hardly think you can have a go at this lady for what she is doing.

[fidaniiiiii]

Certainly they disbelieve who say: "Surely Allah is the third (Person) of the three"; and there is no god but One God,.... The Messiah, son of Maryam is but an apostle; apostles before him have indeed passed away; and his mother was a truthful woman, they both used to eat food. See how We make the signs clear to them, then behold how they are turned away." (5:73 -- 75)

[renex619x]

AT THIS point you might ask:'If the Trinity is not a Biblical teaching, how did it become a doctrine of Christendom?' Many think that it was formulated at the Council of Nicaea in 325 C.E. That is not totally correct, however. The Council of Nicaea did assert that Christ was of the same substance as God, which laid the groundwork for later Trinitarian theology. But it did not establish the Trinity for at that council there was no mention of the holy spirit as the third person of a triune Godhead

[pbar1000]

blackwhitehere, cbntmn: This is not "sad", it is exciting! The evidence here is not "thin", it is rich in truth! These facts are not open for interpretation, the scriptures as a WHOLE interpret themselves. I myself was trapped by a cult belief system, until I DECIDED to study the scriptures as a WHOLE, by myself. I realized that Jesus is God the Almighty. I was saved from hell as a result. You can be saved from hell also. Believe on the Lord Jesus for who He says He is, before it's too late.

[CIDVICIOUS831]

jesus is not god, check out psalms 83:18 should be in every bible

[pbar1000]

Vicious, check out the whole entire bible.

Even the nwt.

Jesus IS GOD. You cannot change the entire meaning of all the scriptures, no matter how hard you may try.

Psalm 83:18 only strengthens the Holy Spirit's cause of Jesus being God, when you look at the whole picture.

[CIDVICIOUS831]

Luke 1:31-32 what dose that say?

[pbar1000]

He is the King! That's what it says...

Now I ask you...Who is that King?

There can only be ONE King!!! LOL

No matter how hard you may try to take away from Jesus, He is THE LORD.

[CIDVICIOUS831]

it says:

He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give him the throne of his ancestor David.

and about your question, to me jehovah is god, but are savior is jessus. the man who died for are sins.

[pbar1000]

CID,

Luke 1:32

He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end."

Whose kingdom will never end?

Again, who is that King?

[CIDVICIOUS831]

i know, hes gona rule as king. it says so in the bible hes gona rule the earth for 1,000 yrs. but check this scripture out acts 7:55 , i know your still not gona belive me but thats cool. one question though. why do you guys pray to the cross of jesus? if in the bible pslams 115 :4-8 it says not to

[j4270108]

@CIDVICIOUS831 According to the NWT He is. Acts4:12 Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” You must be saved by His name and then Romans10:13 For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” Here it says that you call on Jehovah. Must be saved by His name in acts and then you must call on Jehovah. Right here in NWT it says that Jesus is God.

[CIDVICIOUS831]

@j4270108 ware dose it show that jesus is god? i know some of his disciples have called him lord a few times. lets look at John 14:28

[thrufaithalone]

"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was 1) manifest in the flesh 2) justified in the Spirit 3) seen of angels 4) preached unto the Gentiles

5) believed on in the world 6) received up into glory" 1Tim3:16

Consider that this Scripture says "God was. . .received up into glory."

[witforjesus]

Again, let encourage all to check out my book "Yes You Should Believe in the Trinity" posted free online on my website at 4witness dot org. It covers more than I could cover in my video. To find it click on the JW Topics link "Trinity" subject. Then click on the "Response to Should You Believe in the Trinity?" link and that will take you to the book's table of contents.