B.B.N.H., here is why your answer from above is silly. If a civil liberties rally were being held for African-Americans in the 60's, and black people were excited to get to meet Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr., and other figureheads of the movement, would they be "worshiping" these men? No.
No atheist views humans as anything but fallible; you are simply attempting to trivialize our cause, and it's not well-grounded.
Actually the Reason Rally contest is to win a ticket to an Atheist Convention that takes place on the 25th and 26th of March- after the reason Rally. The Reason Rally is completely free and open to anyone who wants to go- Theist, Atheist, anyone at all. In fact so is the convention, but the tickets cost 150$ a piece. Hence why we are trying to 'win' a ticket.
Essentially, it's like Martin Luther King, Jr., holding a contest where the winning video would win lunch with him, and a skinhead neo-Nazi posts a video with the "three reasons he'd most like to meet Dr. King," all of which are insidious, and wondering why his video was declined, despite common sense indicating that it is IMPLICIT that only people who value the civil rights movement need apply. I can't tell whether VyckRo is daft, or simply ignoble.
At any rate, VyckRo fails in realizing that, despite his pedantry regarding the three qualifications for submission, that it was tacitly implied that one could win tickets for the event taking place after the Reason Rally, because it is ****OBVIOUS**** that the person who did the most to promote the rally by bringing it to the public's awareness (winner is based on 50 most viewed) would be rewarded with those tickets. Why in the HELL would Vyckro want tickets to this? He wouldn't.
@disquisition73 "Evolution is an impossibility since spontaneous generation is impossible in nature.". This phrase has been recycled so many times by dumbfuck idiots who know nothing about the evolutionary process. You should stay the fuck away from what you don't understand or don't even care to look into.
And as always, you creatards make baseless claims. I take it you have a degree in philosophy and religion history.
This "response" is full of fail and I'm ashamed to share this planet with people like you.
The reason of the RR is to promote free-thinking and also to help non-theists find each other. Because being an atheist in America is like singing your own exile. In the meantime, the pitiful religious twats play the victim roles because atheists "insult them by not believing".
Very pathetic of you to promote garbage, but then again, that's all you creatards can do.
@DogmasDemise persecution has many faces North Korea didn't start out as what it is today it was once considered the Jerusalem of the East because it was full of cristians so it didn't happen over night
@DogmasDemise I am sorry u will have to read more History books this cultures in the old testament belive in incest child sacrifice by burning and taking women to serve as temple prostitutes and no I doubt they volunteer this happen all time what would of happen if this would of kept going one day some one might of nock at ur door and say hey we need ur son he is the next sacrifice and ur nice will serve a temple goddess u will not be saying the same thing
@DogmasDemise So if you think that the mosques are nice places full of friendly people, why don't you atheists upload a similar video visiting a mosque? I'm sure the people there will take kindly to you insulting them behind their backs, right? I have been to many churches in my life, not just "years ago in some faraway country," and I have never been treated badly in any of them either. You honestly think you'll get the same treatment at any random mosque. Let's say one thats NOT for tourists?
dogmasdemise hates the truth and will not research the dangerous consequence of worshiping evolution. I rejected evolution cause i got tired of being lied to by evolution preachers.
What a bunch of idiots. What an insult to our founding fathers who were almost all believers in God. "America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within"Josef Stalin THey are falling right into a program that was set for them by Communists materialists over fifty years ago. Pathetic and dangerous to individual freedom and personal rights.
@animefan2k9 The "spiritual" life of America consists of an aggressive religious right with an authoritarian political agenda of policing everyone's private parts (anti-prostitution, anti-abortion, anti-gay, abstinence-only programs) stamping out anything even remotely threatening family life (ignoring the fact that most people eventually settle down anyway), stamping out science they don't like (evolution, cloning, stem cell) and exploiting idiots into giving away 10% of income.
What a bunch of idiots. What an insult to our founding fathers who were almost all believers in God. "America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within"Josef Stalin THey are falling right into a program that was set for them by Communists materialists over fifty years ago. Pathetic and dangerous to individual freedom and personal rights.
@animefan2k9 man i totally agree with you hey. i tried to make this point on his "atheists going to church" video by saying that he wouldnt have the courage to upload an "atheists going to a mosque" video. still no response.
If commercialization works for religions to spread their messages (see the horde of religious TV channels, radio stations, billboards, etc), certainly it is fair for other ideas to be marketed in kind.
I don't think everyone who is not an atheist is retarded, but I know calling you a retard would be a compliment to you and an insult to retarded people.
I utterly disagree with you, dude, but I'm clicking "Like" on this vid. Alas, I can't attend the Reason Rally, but if you can go, do it. The Rally isn't about shutting out opposing views, it's about embracing them. So go, listen to the arguments made, counter them with your own. But whatever you do, don't be dishonest about the holes in your own worldview. If you can't make a case for your religion through reason and evidence, you've lost the debate before it starts.
Saying that something is commercialized or certain people are selected for an appeal to some demographics is not the same as saying doing so is unreasonable, unjustified, or wrong. Certain types of actions work better than others at trying to get attention. The "Reason Rally" is a rally FOR reason (to prevail), not necessarily atheist.
@jackdeath wait- so doesn't that make richard dawkins even worse than someone who, as you say, is an asshole and a marble-mouth? i think his point was to say, yes richard dawkins is a layman with regards to philosophy, not a layman in his own field.
@wazpoppin9 If you say so, but I thought it was a straight up insult. It must be the guilt of not knowing the difference between a layman or a scholar that compels you.
@wazpoppin9 Who are you kidding, kiddo? Since when is a Doctor of Philosophy (Oxon) somehow a layman? The reason you cannot take a luminary University of California, Berkeley, and University Oxford Professor seriously is because you are a mental defect. This is no other reason.
Non-sequitor. Religion was in no way relevant to Mao's rally. Also just to clarify, while Thunderf00t did have two well-publicized discussions, both of which achieved their goal, he has yet to have a public debate, and I doubt he ever will. One last note, one should not be surprised that we do not include the false and vitriolic accusations of a sadly delusional paranoid hate-monger among our intended promotions of an event which we all want to be wholly positive.
@animefan2k9 Don't make me link the video: watch?v=dZ7me7_wI5Y
Oops too late.
No rational person on this Earth would think VyckRo handled himself well on this debate. My only complaint would be the limited time given by DPR, but I don't think it would have improved his situation.
@animefan2k9 Wow! It's a LIE? I never knew that. Why don't you publish a peer reviewed article about it. I'm sure you could win a Nobel Prize or something, genius...
@DogmasDemise is see you that the truth. teaching of evolution leads to destruction of society. evolution is based on lies. evolution is used to enslave people.
@animefan2k9 Uh, no dude, teaching of evolution leads to competent biologists who can compete on the global market. Fuck, it even has applications in computer science. You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, go google: "Applications of evolution".
@DogmasDemise no you are the one that don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. the teaching of evolution leads to eugenics. evolution has no place in computer science.
@AronRa Actually this would be the 2nd time, I still remember when VyckRo got on dpr's show and got utterly pwned by the end. You guys should invite him again for more. :))
In fact the goal, of the Cultural Revolution, was the removing of the old values, religions, traditions... largely similar to yours At the rally they praised with their achievements ( and you`l probably do the same).
Thunderf00t have "two well-publicized discussions" on what? hamburger diet?
"hate-monger" from a fictional superhero movie? so low, is the culture of atheists?
I assume that terms as Mephistonian or Machiavelian are unknown for atheists.
@VyckRo Largely similar? I know you're a pathological liar, but for your misguided audience: ", its stated goal was to ENFORCE SOCIALISM in the country by REMOVING CAPITALIST, traditional and cultural elements from Chinese society, and to impose Maoist orthodoxy within the Party."
Now how the hell is that even comparable with a peaceful protest that says NOTHING about economics and promotes secularism, free thought and dispel the false stereotypes and myths about non-believers?
@VyckRo This is the video you crowed about on my channel, and on thunderf00t's blog? Wow, why am I not surprised you show footage to a communist rally? Maybe you should sit down and actually read your bible, you might just realize Jesus was a communist. What a mindless ass-wipe.
"should not be surprised that we do not include the false and vitriolic accusations of a sadly delusional paranoid hate-monger"
Your ad-hominem is irrelevant, because it still falls under discrimination ( legally speaking ).Your video did not put any condition, and when the first Christian, came to the contest was rejected for religious reasons.
Knowing your country's legislation on discrimination. This opportunity, for me, is too beautiful not to be taken into account
@VyckRo "Your ad-hominem" THE IRONY! You said: ""hate-monger" from a fictional superhero movie? so low, is the culture of atheists?" - Uh, this actually proves how low your own culture is, "hatemonger" is in fact a legitimate word, it wasn't made up with the villain called Hate-Monger. Etymology of the word is simply "hate" + "monger" (Old English word, derived from the New Latin word mango - dealer) So I guess it's meant to mean "dealer(spreader) of hate".
@AronRa I live in China. My wife was born and raised a Maoist Communist Chinese. I can absolutely assure you, with no doubts, Mao was not only an atheist and rabid anti-theist but he was absolutely motivated by (and carried through on) the atheistic inspirations of Darwin, Marx, Lenin and Co. I tell you this because you are an uneducated, inexperienced fool if you think religion was 'in no way relevant' and I can pity you for being so fantastically ignorant. Like a child.
@TheRightOffensive "Mao was not only an atheist and rabid anti-theist...but...motivated by...Darwin, Marx, Lenin..."
Even IF true, it wouldn't have a negative impact on atheism. If fringe members of animal rights groups bombed furriers, factory farms, etc., it would have no effect on the ethics of veganism or animal rights, because vegans are not complicit with the actions of others in such a way. If they had to accept a *doctrine* to qualify, they'd be under the same umbrella, but they aren't.
@TheRightOffensive To continue, IF people had to *not only* abstain from meat, but also accept the words of the president of P.E.T.A. (for example's sake) on authority in order to qualify as vegan, then one could be guilty by association, because they have a unifying code.
That's the real problem: dogma, accepted from authority unquestioned or imposed. Religious and non-religious demagogues and despots have done it, but the real enemy is totalitarianism, which isn't synonymous with rationalism.
@themediocrenontheist If you have an officially Peta-Vegan society then it will be inevitable dog owners are arrested (or retrained to dog-roommates) and farms dismantled and taken to it's logical conclusions the police will have to fire at hunters in self-defense of the deer and meat-eaters imprisoned or sent to mental institutes for 'cannibalism'. This would happen in every country, whoever the leaders, where PETA was official authority.
@TheRightOffensive Hmmm...interesting. Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't. Regardless, that's a complete non-sequitur from what we were discussing, which is that veganism and atheism are not dogmatic doctrines, and so what people with those attributes do cannot be put under an umbrella as though they're all guilty by association. The problem, whether a god is in the equation or not, is when freedom is limited, and absolute power is installed; I fully agree that absolute power corrupts absolutely.
@TheRightOffensive So, in short, it was just an analogy to make a point. Don't get too hung up on the analogy; see past it, to the bigger discussion which it was only a part of.
@themediocrenontheist I wasn't getting hung up on the analogy in so far as the 'cause' but was showing you there are inevitable logical consequences when 'X' is presumed as an official truth of a society. In this case, if Atheism is the 'official state position' then there must be a 'therefore' series of events that bring us to China or Russia (50 years ago-sh) and so they would in the USA or wherever you start and establish such a premise.
@TheRightOffensive You can tell me anything you like, but can you show me that it is actually true? What can you show me to prove that Mao accepted Darwin over Lamarck? Secondly can you show me how it is even possible that someone could be politically motivated by Darwin? Citations please.
@AronRa You made the claim and using your cowardly Atheist101 standards it is up to you to provide me with citations. Since I am the authority and source I will kick back, stroke my goatee and decide if you provided me with the sufficient evidence to back up your amazingly ignorant claim. Please provide citations and your shinebox. Thx [meanwhile, I'm returning to my village in Northern China where Grandma lived through Mao you moron]
Your main problem AronAton is that you do a distinction between Darwin and Lamarck, from the point of view of communism.
Have you ever seen a biology Communist textbook? If it happen for you to know, any atheist blonde born here somewhere, asks her to bring you, her parents biology textbook you will be amazed.
You have no idea of how ridiculous you were in your videos, when you said that communists accepted Lamarck over Darwin.
@VyckRo Mao and his people most definitely did buy and sell full-on Darwinism and you make a good point that there is little difference between 'lamarck' or 'darwin' to them anyways. The only possible way he can squirm out of this is to complain Chinese Darwinists had and wrote and instituted 'Chinese versions of Darwinism'? Claim he disagrees with some Chinese presentation of Darwinism? Disagree with some ways they taught Darwinism? We call this 'desperately splitting hairs'.
@TheRightOffensive I'm not certain that people understand that even *if* the most malicious people in the world accepted Darwinism, that it *would not* make Darwinism 1.) less true, and 2.) evil.
One could use nuclear fission to provide electricity for a city, or one could harness nuclear fission to bomb a city. Observations of nature are inherently neutral, and so neither action would have any bearing on the truth of Atomic Theory, nor the morality of the people who recognize it as true.
@DogmasDemise in paper so I can prove it about exposing the children to the old testament what about History or Science the History of humanity is full of blood and no it wasn't God who cause it science the Nuclear Bomb,Unit 731,Nazis experiments on humans should I take my children out of school ? about 196,000 cristians die every year and no one cares North Korea probably has 200,000 cristians in prison camps they are starved and tortured everyday but I guess people like u don't mind that
@DogmasDemise I do not teach my children to hate non cristians most cristians don't Jesus died so humanity would have a choice those who chose to follow him can God is a God of order he gave humanity control over everything he gave humanity the intelligence to became Dr's to heal people I do believe in miracles and of course I pray I was told I would die by the age of 5 I am 33 years old and if I told u all the things I been diagnose with and then gone u would not believe me and I do have it
@DogmasDemise ah yes they are after all didn't Mr. Dawkins write about teaching children to be cristians child abuse u are no different than the rest of the world trying to tell everyone also what to do to think other wise is fooling ur self " THE ATHEIST INQUISITION"
@katelling1 This is a bit of a gray area for me really. Yes, it IS child abuse sure, but I don't think it's realistic to police family life this way. All we can do is recommend a balanced education.
Social services however SHOULD intervene in extreme cases, for example if you teach your child to hate non-Christians or you don't want to take him to the doctor because you think prayer is better than modern medicine.
@katelling1 About child abuse, if you think it's okay to expose children to the cruelty of the Old Testament, then uh... I guess you won't mind if I read your child the script of the Saw movies or the Dexter books right?
They will probable congratulate Obama for his abortion policys and hatred of Christianity, The NDDA Act Obama signed is a Atheist Poll Pot, Hitler, Mao, Stalin move, all aimed at making Christians and conservative terrorists, this must make their mouths water with excitement, very sad state of affairs, keep up the good work.
@88kmitchell ROFL "hatred of Christianity!" HE IS A CHRISTIAN YOU TWIT and this NDDA that you call an "Atheist Poll Pot, Hitler, Mao, Stalin move" would not have been possible without the approval of your officials (which are a CHRISTIAN majority!)
All this while the most watched atheist on YouTube (TheAmazingAtheist) condemns this act.
@DogmasDemise They are not Christians in the congress, the are corporate whores and blackmailed paedophiles, ROFL, who is this your talking about. Lieberman is a Zionist Jew, most are. Do you deny that Mao and Stalin were Atheist and mass murderers, yes they were and they passed similar bills.Nice try.
@88kmitchell Mao and Stalin were atheists, sure but they are nothing like Richard Dawkins or Thunderf00t. If you want to put them in the same box you might as well put humans in the same box with nazis. After all, all nazis were humans, NONE animals or aliens.
There is no evidence that your congress is run by atheists. I don't believe in crazy conspiracy theories and no true scotsman fallacies.
When people demand their own way, God will give it to them. The atheists want a world in which there is no God. They're going to get it. Seven years worth of it under the Anti-Christ, of hell on earth. By the time it's over, most of them will be dead.
@mrtadreamer You know when we say we don't want God in our lives, that actually means: "We don't want preachers and religious nutjobs claiming to be representatives of God making ridiculous demands and telling people how to live their lives."
@VyckRo Oh and about this thing about Thunderf00t losing a debate to Ray Comfort? What are you talking about??? LOL! The man's just an arrogant creationist who claims absolute knowledge about the beginning of the Universe. That was insta-fail and his objections to evolution are completely childish too.
WBC didn't win either, they didn't even consider it a debate, they just wanted to preach. How is being a loud mouth prick constantly interrupting your "opponent" a "win"?
@VyckRo Also no more war on evolution or any other science that conflicts with a particular dogma. Remember all those fanatics who want to ban stem cell research and cloning for PURELY religious reasons because "only God can give life therefore cloning is wrong"? (Now personally I do oppose human cloning, but NOT for religious reasons.)
Yeah, they get political power even though the US constitution clearly states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"?
@DogmasDemise Right. Do you understand that this part of the constitution is a) not using the word 'respect' in the sense of 'admire' or 'acknowledge' or 'give credibility and that b) the very point is that government cannot tell religions what to do or how to vote or what they can or cannot do? Do you comprehend this? Please try and grasp this and then feel free to delete your own post. Thx.
@TheRightOffensive Oh I see how it is. So you want to have all the freedom from government intervention. You don't even want to pay taxes despite depending on the same public services (police, military, construction of roads etc.)
But you want the same government to interfere with the freedom of everyone else... Forget that I'm an atheist, I can be arrested in your country merely for soliciting an escort because you THINK it makes baby Jesus cry.
@DogmasDemise No, you do not see. You completely missed it and went so far off the rails that I doubt there is any hope of getting you back on track. Complete and total fail. I strongly recommending you stop commenting or thinking about these subjects. Sincerely.
@DogmasDemise Uh no, it means you would have the liberty to pursue happiness which might be your desire to believe in no gods or your desire to wear a large black religious hat. If YOU (you personally) don't find happiness in that they YOU are free to do whatever you like. Wow.. it's like you don't 'comprehend ideas' at all?
@DogmasDemise Uh no, it means you would have the liberty to pursue happiness which might be your desire to believe in no gods or your desire to wear a large black religious hat. If YOU (you personally) don't find happiness in that they YOU are free to do whatever you like. Wow.. it's like you don't 'comprehend ideas' at all?
@TheRightOffensive Luckly, I don't live in the US, I live in Romania, where my taxes go to building a mega-cathedral instead of I dunno... improving our failing healthcare system perhaps?
What an improvement.
Neither USA nor Romania are as secular as they should be.
@DogmasDemise In Romania you might have to repay Churches for the money stolen by Atheist regimes. I don't know about that. What I do know is that you are missing the point entirely with the US constitution. There government is not allowed to interfere with religions in any way. Religious people (and ALL people, ANY people) are 100% allowed to vote for any kind of policy Reps they want. Nearly the 'opposite' of where you seemed to be going with that.
@TheRightOffensive The Orthodox Church was not the only one robbed, PEOPLE got robbed out of their homes too, their houses simply taken.
That doesn't mean those people are now entitled to a sort of permanent welfare. No, they filed a claim and got their house back. If that was not possible they got compensation or filed a lawsuit.
If the Church feels entitled to something it can file a lawsuit, not demand hand-outs.
@DogmasDemise So your complaint is that some people were being compensated but not everyone has been compensated. A Church receiving some kind of 'welfare' isn't cool with me either but then again I suspect you don't know what you are talking about.
@TheRightOffensive No, my complaint is that if you feel entitled to compensation there are ways to pursue it. For example after '89 you could file a claim and get your property back/compensated. If that wasn't enough, you could file a lawsuit to recover other damages.
I know what I'm talking about, the Romanian state funds the church like any other public institution (health, police etc.). And yet people STILL have to pay funeral fees and such. It's a cash machine.
@DogmasDemise So you were not complaining about Churches receiving compensation (or their lands back). I will say this again: I am not happy with the idea of state-funded Churches but I'd have to hear the story from from VickRo and not you.
@TheRightOffensive Yes I'm sure the man who thinks that if atheism is true therefore communism is the correct ideology is an authority on the subject. (Really this is what he says, ask him what he thinks about an atheist who is 100% free market capitalist.)
@VyckRo Wow! You found a loophole. A technicality. You really think that's going to get you to USA for free? :)) People are on to your trolling you know.
You're quite right - there have been many secular gatherings with many, many more people before this one. You obeyed the rules of a response video. Have you tried to send it as a response video? Was it denied?
a) To do not present myself with a very small number of visitors ( I want to have over 150/200)
b) that video still has no answer, yet ( if I will be the first this video will be buried in the responses list, my channel is not dependent from the visitors who come indirectly by Video-responses, so when I will have a decent number of visitors, and T.foot video already have a few VideoResponses then I wil came whit my video)
Funny how the reaqsonable atheists are the most unreasonable when it comes to talking to others and their faith. Dawkins chickened out from a debate with WLC, was made to look rather silly be McGrath, and now has to make sure he has a friendly audience who will not challlenge his obvious lack of understanding of the basics of faith.
The New Philistinism has its own rally? OK, who wins, a faith rally or this absurd gathering of the mental midgets?
@arthegor That's what I'm wondering. Louis Farrakhan couldn't even rally one million Muslims for his Million Man March...so how in the world are these New Atheist types hoping to have a significant turn-out?
@YhwhKhaiMostHigh Yes, it's pretty clear that Dawkins will go where he knows he'll have a stacked audience that agree with him in advance, but he seems hard pressed to go where his views may be challenged. How anybody can support this clown or even take him remotely serious is beyond me.
No offense to clowns by calling Dawkins one of course.
christen cunt
jogreeen 1 hour ago
You small minded little self deluded bigot. You should probably hound smaller targets, puppy. These folks are way out of your league.
MisterDataJack 1 week ago
Atheism is a dangerous religion.
BigBangNeverHappend 1 week ago
@BigBangNeverHappend
Really? What god do Atheists worship?
smsavage32 6 days ago
@smsavage32 Their leaders
BigBangNeverHappend 6 days ago
@BigBangNeverHappend
Q: what gods do atheists worship?
A: their leaders
B.B.N.H., here is why your answer from above is silly. If a civil liberties rally were being held for African-Americans in the 60's, and black people were excited to get to meet Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr., and other figureheads of the movement, would they be "worshiping" these men? No.
No atheist views humans as anything but fallible; you are simply attempting to trivialize our cause, and it's not well-grounded.
themediocrenontheist 4 days ago
@BigBangNeverHappend So you believe that Atheists leaders are gods? That is an interesting point of view.
smsavage32 3 days ago
@smsavage32 No I don't
BigBangNeverHappend 3 days ago
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@BigBangNeverHappend You don't? That is strange. I asked what gods you think Atheists worship and you said "Their leaders"
Were you lying to us when you said that?
smsavage32 3 days ago
Actually the Reason Rally contest is to win a ticket to an Atheist Convention that takes place on the 25th and 26th of March- after the reason Rally. The Reason Rally is completely free and open to anyone who wants to go- Theist, Atheist, anyone at all. In fact so is the convention, but the tickets cost 150$ a piece. Hence why we are trying to 'win' a ticket.
alwayshuntress 1 week ago 8
Essentially, it's like Martin Luther King, Jr., holding a contest where the winning video would win lunch with him, and a skinhead neo-Nazi posts a video with the "three reasons he'd most like to meet Dr. King," all of which are insidious, and wondering why his video was declined, despite common sense indicating that it is IMPLICIT that only people who value the civil rights movement need apply. I can't tell whether VyckRo is daft, or simply ignoble.
themediocrenontheist 2 weeks ago
At any rate, VyckRo fails in realizing that, despite his pedantry regarding the three qualifications for submission, that it was tacitly implied that one could win tickets for the event taking place after the Reason Rally, because it is ****OBVIOUS**** that the person who did the most to promote the rally by bringing it to the public's awareness (winner is based on 50 most viewed) would be rewarded with those tickets. Why in the HELL would Vyckro want tickets to this? He wouldn't.
themediocrenontheist 2 weeks ago
@disquisition73 "Evolution is an impossibility since spontaneous generation is impossible in nature.". This phrase has been recycled so many times by dumbfuck idiots who know nothing about the evolutionary process. You should stay the fuck away from what you don't understand or don't even care to look into.
And as always, you creatards make baseless claims. I take it you have a degree in philosophy and religion history.
TheKainMan 3 weeks ago
@disquisition73
So you've pulled out of the ''debate'' if you can call it that and have now started quoting bible at me.
I win again.
This is easy and fun!
Primordialfan1 3 weeks ago
@Primordialfan1 Don't scare him off so easily. :D Save some of the fun for me.
TheKainMan 3 weeks ago
@TheKainMan
Sorry bro. I hope I haven't ruined it for you!
Primordialfan1 3 weeks ago
@Primordialfan1 It's cool, there are plenty of other idiots around Youtube I can pick on ^^.
TheKainMan 3 weeks ago
@TheKainMan Sadly that's very true!
Primordialfan1 3 weeks ago
@disquisition73
So you're putting up a strawman fallacy and coupling that with a ''God of the Gaps'' fallacy.
Right. *rolls eyes*
Primordialfan1 3 weeks ago
@disquisition73
There's another creationist '''argument'' debunked. Do you just repeat your bullshit arguments to different people when smart people debunk them??
Primordialfan1 3 weeks ago
This "response" is full of fail and I'm ashamed to share this planet with people like you.
The reason of the RR is to promote free-thinking and also to help non-theists find each other. Because being an atheist in America is like singing your own exile. In the meantime, the pitiful religious twats play the victim roles because atheists "insult them by not believing".
Very pathetic of you to promote garbage, but then again, that's all you creatards can do.
TheKainMan 3 weeks ago
Oh wow. Atheism = Communism.
This fail argument hasn't been debunked AT ALL. *rolls eyes*
Primordialfan1 3 weeks ago
@DogmasDemise persecution has many faces North Korea didn't start out as what it is today it was once considered the Jerusalem of the East because it was full of cristians so it didn't happen over night
katelling1 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise I am sorry u will have to read more History books this cultures in the old testament belive in incest child sacrifice by burning and taking women to serve as temple prostitutes and no I doubt they volunteer this happen all time what would of happen if this would of kept going one day some one might of nock at ur door and say hey we need ur son he is the next sacrifice and ur nice will serve a temple goddess u will not be saying the same thing
katelling1 1 month ago
Well done.
TrustinJC 1 month ago
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@DogmasDemise So if you think that the mosques are nice places full of friendly people, why don't you atheists upload a similar video visiting a mosque? I'm sure the people there will take kindly to you insulting them behind their backs, right? I have been to many churches in my life, not just "years ago in some faraway country," and I have never been treated badly in any of them either. You honestly think you'll get the same treatment at any random mosque. Let's say one thats NOT for tourists?
wazpoppin9 1 month ago
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wazpoppin9 1 month ago
atheism is pushed on mainstream tv
animefan2k9 1 month ago
@animefan2k9 Just like NOT collecting stamps.
TheAikenHead 3 weeks ago
dogmasdemise hates the truth and will not research the dangerous consequence of worshiping evolution. I rejected evolution cause i got tired of being lied to by evolution preachers.
animefan2k9 1 month ago 2
@animefan2k9 It's time for you to go to bed, troll. You got school tomorrow. (Evolution class.)
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
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What a bunch of idiots. What an insult to our founding fathers who were almost all believers in God. "America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within"Josef Stalin THey are falling right into a program that was set for them by Communists materialists over fifty years ago. Pathetic and dangerous to individual freedom and personal rights.
animefan2k9 1 month ago
@animefan2k9 The "spiritual" life of America consists of an aggressive religious right with an authoritarian political agenda of policing everyone's private parts (anti-prostitution, anti-abortion, anti-gay, abstinence-only programs) stamping out anything even remotely threatening family life (ignoring the fact that most people eventually settle down anyway), stamping out science they don't like (evolution, cloning, stem cell) and exploiting idiots into giving away 10% of income.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
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What a bunch of idiots. What an insult to our founding fathers who were almost all believers in God. "America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within"Josef Stalin THey are falling right into a program that was set for them by Communists materialists over fifty years ago. Pathetic and dangerous to individual freedom and personal rights.
doobersmanster 1 month ago
if atheism is right than there is no right or wrong, or good or evil.
animefan2k9 1 month ago
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@animefan2k9 if theism is right than there is no right or wrong, or good or evil. it's simply what god says goes. :P
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
the unreason rally
animefan2k9 1 month ago
aronra is just a coward.
animefan2k9 1 month ago
@animefan2k9 man i totally agree with you hey. i tried to make this point on his "atheists going to church" video by saying that he wouldnt have the courage to upload an "atheists going to a mosque" video. still no response.
wazpoppin9 1 month ago
Mao's China was not a secular state. Try again.
RaynorGo 1 month ago
If commercialization works for religions to spread their messages (see the horde of religious TV channels, radio stations, billboards, etc), certainly it is fair for other ideas to be marketed in kind.
Voidsworn 1 month ago
I don't think everyone who is not an atheist is retarded, but I know calling you a retard would be a compliment to you and an insult to retarded people.
TheRenekruse 1 month ago
I utterly disagree with you, dude, but I'm clicking "Like" on this vid. Alas, I can't attend the Reason Rally, but if you can go, do it. The Rally isn't about shutting out opposing views, it's about embracing them. So go, listen to the arguments made, counter them with your own. But whatever you do, don't be dishonest about the holes in your own worldview. If you can't make a case for your religion through reason and evidence, you've lost the debate before it starts.
jslyster 1 month ago
Saying that something is commercialized or certain people are selected for an appeal to some demographics is not the same as saying doing so is unreasonable, unjustified, or wrong. Certain types of actions work better than others at trying to get attention. The "Reason Rally" is a rally FOR reason (to prevail), not necessarily atheist.
Voidsworn 1 month ago
Oh! Richard Dawkins is a layman to you, huh? Then that must mean you’re an asshole, marble-mouth.
jackdeath 1 month ago
@jackdeath wait- so doesn't that make richard dawkins even worse than someone who, as you say, is an asshole and a marble-mouth? i think his point was to say, yes richard dawkins is a layman with regards to philosophy, not a layman in his own field.
wazpoppin9 1 month ago
@wazpoppin9 Oh! You're a special kind of asshole, aren't you?
jackdeath 1 month ago
@jackdeath great argument.
wazpoppin9 1 month ago
@wazpoppin9 If you say so, but I thought it was a straight up insult. It must be the guilt of not knowing the difference between a layman or a scholar that compels you.
jackdeath 4 weeks ago
@jackdeath Yes that *must* be the reason why I can't take richard dawkins seriously.
wazpoppin9 4 weeks ago
@wazpoppin9 Who are you kidding, kiddo? Since when is a Doctor of Philosophy (Oxon) somehow a layman? The reason you cannot take a luminary University of California, Berkeley, and University Oxford Professor seriously is because you are a mental defect. This is no other reason.
jackdeath 4 weeks ago
Non-sequitor. Religion was in no way relevant to Mao's rally. Also just to clarify, while Thunderf00t did have two well-publicized discussions, both of which achieved their goal, he has yet to have a public debate, and I doubt he ever will. One last note, one should not be surprised that we do not include the false and vitriolic accusations of a sadly delusional paranoid hate-monger among our intended promotions of an event which we all want to be wholly positive.
AronRa 1 month ago
@AronRa You rock! :)) Totally pwned him.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise it was the other way around. dpr jones and aronra was pawned
animefan2k9 1 month ago
@animefan2k9 Don't make me link the video: watch?v=dZ7me7_wI5Y
Oops too late.
No rational person on this Earth would think VyckRo handled himself well on this debate. My only complaint would be the limited time given by DPR, but I don't think it would have improved his situation.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise dpr jones worships the lie called evolution. dprjones rejects evidence that goes against his religion.
animefan2k9 1 month ago
@animefan2k9 Wow! It's a LIE? I never knew that. Why don't you publish a peer reviewed article about it. I'm sure you could win a Nobel Prize or something, genius...
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise is see you that the truth. teaching of evolution leads to destruction of society. evolution is based on lies. evolution is used to enslave people.
animefan2k9 1 month ago 2
@animefan2k9 Uh, no dude, teaching of evolution leads to competent biologists who can compete on the global market. Fuck, it even has applications in computer science. You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, go google: "Applications of evolution".
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise no you are the one that don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about. the teaching of evolution leads to eugenics. evolution has no place in computer science.
animefan2k9 1 month ago 2
@animefan2k9 @DogmasDemise is see that you hate the truth
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wazpoppin9 1 month ago
@AronRa Actually this would be the 2nd time, I still remember when VyckRo got on dpr's show and got utterly pwned by the end. You guys should invite him again for more. :))
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@AronRa stop lying.
animefan2k9 1 month ago
@AronRa
In fact the goal, of the Cultural Revolution, was the removing of the old values, religions, traditions... largely similar to yours At the rally they praised with their achievements ( and you`l probably do the same).
Thunderf00t have "two well-publicized discussions" on what? hamburger diet?
"hate-monger" from a fictional superhero movie? so low, is the culture of atheists?
I assume that terms as Mephistonian or Machiavelian are unknown for atheists.
VyckRo 1 month ago 3
@VyckRo Largely similar? I know you're a pathological liar, but for your misguided audience: ", its stated goal was to ENFORCE SOCIALISM in the country by REMOVING CAPITALIST, traditional and cultural elements from Chinese society, and to impose Maoist orthodoxy within the Party."
Now how the hell is that even comparable with a peaceful protest that says NOTHING about economics and promotes secularism, free thought and dispel the false stereotypes and myths about non-believers?
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@VyckRo "I assume that terms as Mephistonian or Machiavelian are unknown for atheists."
They're equally unknown for most Romanians too. Tu chiar crezi ca tara asta de cocalari e atat de desteapta?
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@VyckRo This is the video you crowed about on my channel, and on thunderf00t's blog? Wow, why am I not surprised you show footage to a communist rally? Maybe you should sit down and actually read your bible, you might just realize Jesus was a communist. What a mindless ass-wipe.
santora1957 3 weeks ago
@santora1957
No I talked on your channel on the "Thunderf00t & Drcraigvideos the full" video!
VyckRo 3 weeks ago
@AronRa
"should not be surprised that we do not include the false and vitriolic accusations of a sadly delusional paranoid hate-monger"
Your ad-hominem is irrelevant, because it still falls under discrimination ( legally speaking ).Your video did not put any condition, and when the first Christian, came to the contest was rejected for religious reasons.
Knowing your country's legislation on discrimination. This opportunity, for me, is too beautiful not to be taken into account
VyckRo 1 month ago 2
@VyckRo "Your ad-hominem" THE IRONY! You said: ""hate-monger" from a fictional superhero movie? so low, is the culture of atheists?" - Uh, this actually proves how low your own culture is, "hatemonger" is in fact a legitimate word, it wasn't made up with the villain called Hate-Monger. Etymology of the word is simply "hate" + "monger" (Old English word, derived from the New Latin word mango - dealer) So I guess it's meant to mean "dealer(spreader) of hate".
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@AronRa I live in China. My wife was born and raised a Maoist Communist Chinese. I can absolutely assure you, with no doubts, Mao was not only an atheist and rabid anti-theist but he was absolutely motivated by (and carried through on) the atheistic inspirations of Darwin, Marx, Lenin and Co. I tell you this because you are an uneducated, inexperienced fool if you think religion was 'in no way relevant' and I can pity you for being so fantastically ignorant. Like a child.
TheRightOffensive 2 weeks ago
@TheRightOffensive "Mao was not only an atheist and rabid anti-theist...but...motivated by...Darwin, Marx, Lenin..."
Even IF true, it wouldn't have a negative impact on atheism. If fringe members of animal rights groups bombed furriers, factory farms, etc., it would have no effect on the ethics of veganism or animal rights, because vegans are not complicit with the actions of others in such a way. If they had to accept a *doctrine* to qualify, they'd be under the same umbrella, but they aren't.
themediocrenontheist 2 weeks ago
@TheRightOffensive To continue, IF people had to *not only* abstain from meat, but also accept the words of the president of P.E.T.A. (for example's sake) on authority in order to qualify as vegan, then one could be guilty by association, because they have a unifying code.
That's the real problem: dogma, accepted from authority unquestioned or imposed. Religious and non-religious demagogues and despots have done it, but the real enemy is totalitarianism, which isn't synonymous with rationalism.
themediocrenontheist 2 weeks ago
@themediocrenontheist If you have an officially Peta-Vegan society then it will be inevitable dog owners are arrested (or retrained to dog-roommates) and farms dismantled and taken to it's logical conclusions the police will have to fire at hunters in self-defense of the deer and meat-eaters imprisoned or sent to mental institutes for 'cannibalism'. This would happen in every country, whoever the leaders, where PETA was official authority.
TheRightOffensive 2 weeks ago
@TheRightOffensive Hmmm...interesting. Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't. Regardless, that's a complete non-sequitur from what we were discussing, which is that veganism and atheism are not dogmatic doctrines, and so what people with those attributes do cannot be put under an umbrella as though they're all guilty by association. The problem, whether a god is in the equation or not, is when freedom is limited, and absolute power is installed; I fully agree that absolute power corrupts absolutely.
themediocrenontheist 2 weeks ago
@TheRightOffensive So, in short, it was just an analogy to make a point. Don't get too hung up on the analogy; see past it, to the bigger discussion which it was only a part of.
themediocrenontheist 2 weeks ago
@themediocrenontheist I wasn't getting hung up on the analogy in so far as the 'cause' but was showing you there are inevitable logical consequences when 'X' is presumed as an official truth of a society. In this case, if Atheism is the 'official state position' then there must be a 'therefore' series of events that bring us to China or Russia (50 years ago-sh) and so they would in the USA or wherever you start and establish such a premise.
TheRightOffensive 2 weeks ago
@TheRightOffensive You can tell me anything you like, but can you show me that it is actually true? What can you show me to prove that Mao accepted Darwin over Lamarck? Secondly can you show me how it is even possible that someone could be politically motivated by Darwin? Citations please.
AronRa 2 weeks ago 3
@AronRa You made the claim and using your cowardly Atheist101 standards it is up to you to provide me with citations. Since I am the authority and source I will kick back, stroke my goatee and decide if you provided me with the sufficient evidence to back up your amazingly ignorant claim. Please provide citations and your shinebox. Thx [meanwhile, I'm returning to my village in Northern China where Grandma lived through Mao you moron]
TheRightOffensive 2 weeks ago
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Your main problem AronAton is that you do a distinction between Darwin and Lamarck, from the point of view of communism.
Have you ever seen a biology Communist textbook? If it happen for you to know, any atheist blonde born here somewhere, asks her to bring you, her parents biology textbook you will be amazed.
You have no idea of how ridiculous you were in your videos, when you said that communists accepted Lamarck over Darwin.
VyckRo 2 weeks ago
@VyckRo Mao and his people most definitely did buy and sell full-on Darwinism and you make a good point that there is little difference between 'lamarck' or 'darwin' to them anyways. The only possible way he can squirm out of this is to complain Chinese Darwinists had and wrote and instituted 'Chinese versions of Darwinism'? Claim he disagrees with some Chinese presentation of Darwinism? Disagree with some ways they taught Darwinism? We call this 'desperately splitting hairs'.
TheRightOffensive 2 weeks ago
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themediocrenontheist 1 week ago
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@TheRightOffensive I'm not certain that people understand that even *if* the most malicious people in the world accepted Darwinism, that it *would not* make Darwinism 1.) less true, and 2.) evil.
One could use nuclear fission to provide electricity for a city, or one could harness nuclear fission to bomb a city. Observations of nature are inherently neutral, and so neither action would have any bearing on the truth of Atomic Theory, nor the morality of the people who recognize it as true.
themediocrenontheist 1 week ago
@VyckRo
If you are unfamiliar with the term "Lysenkoism," its about time to get acquainted.
Wrath0fKhan 1 week ago
Great video bro,thanks!
Zwemer100 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise in paper so I can prove it about exposing the children to the old testament what about History or Science the History of humanity is full of blood and no it wasn't God who cause it science the Nuclear Bomb,Unit 731,Nazis experiments on humans should I take my children out of school ? about 196,000 cristians die every year and no one cares North Korea probably has 200,000 cristians in prison camps they are starved and tortured everyday but I guess people like u don't mind that
katelling1 1 month ago
@katelling1 Really really bad comparison because the school textbooks don't go into graphical detail nor do they present it as a positive thing.
The Bible however presents a lot of crude acts as "divine justice".
North Korea is irrelevant, I don't support that country's regime nor persecution of Christians.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise I do not teach my children to hate non cristians most cristians don't Jesus died so humanity would have a choice those who chose to follow him can God is a God of order he gave humanity control over everything he gave humanity the intelligence to became Dr's to heal people I do believe in miracles and of course I pray I was told I would die by the age of 5 I am 33 years old and if I told u all the things I been diagnose with and then gone u would not believe me and I do have it
katelling1 1 month ago
if a hater like you wins this contest I will be so pissed off. Why would you even want to go, other than to be a major buzz-kill?
SeanTalksTooMuch 1 month ago
Okay.. I think I have a great idea. I'm not a brilliant movie maker but give me a few days and I think I got something.
TheRightOffensive 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise ah yes they are after all didn't Mr. Dawkins write about teaching children to be cristians child abuse u are no different than the rest of the world trying to tell everyone also what to do to think other wise is fooling ur self " THE ATHEIST INQUISITION"
katelling1 1 month ago
@katelling1 This is a bit of a gray area for me really. Yes, it IS child abuse sure, but I don't think it's realistic to police family life this way. All we can do is recommend a balanced education.
Social services however SHOULD intervene in extreme cases, for example if you teach your child to hate non-Christians or you don't want to take him to the doctor because you think prayer is better than modern medicine.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@katelling1 About child abuse, if you think it's okay to expose children to the cruelty of the Old Testament, then uh... I guess you won't mind if I read your child the script of the Saw movies or the Dexter books right?
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
nothing more then paranoia bullshit.
whitevoid43 1 month ago
stupid video.
whitevoid43 1 month ago
@whitevoid43 cool story bro.
wazpoppin9 1 month ago
Bad Religion at the rally? How ironic, music that sounds the same, for people who all think the same.
cupofcustard 1 month ago
Atheists discredit themselves constantly. lol
NephilimFree 1 month ago
@NephilimFree I'm sure racists thought the exact same thing about black rallies for equal rights.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
Thunderf00t vs westboro baptists? Wow, I gotta check that tragic thing. Brb.
PirateXzibit 1 month ago
God is still god of the gaps... it is too bad people feel the emotional need to fill the gap in their knowledge with such an excuse.
Anonymous247n 1 month ago
They will probable congratulate Obama for his abortion policys and hatred of Christianity, The NDDA Act Obama signed is a Atheist Poll Pot, Hitler, Mao, Stalin move, all aimed at making Christians and conservative terrorists, this must make their mouths water with excitement, very sad state of affairs, keep up the good work.
88kmitchell 1 month ago
@88kmitchell ROFL "hatred of Christianity!" HE IS A CHRISTIAN YOU TWIT and this NDDA that you call an "Atheist Poll Pot, Hitler, Mao, Stalin move" would not have been possible without the approval of your officials (which are a CHRISTIAN majority!)
All this while the most watched atheist on YouTube (TheAmazingAtheist) condemns this act.
Nice try, but you fail HARD.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise They are not Christians in the congress, the are corporate whores and blackmailed paedophiles, ROFL, who is this your talking about. Lieberman is a Zionist Jew, most are. Do you deny that Mao and Stalin were Atheist and mass murderers, yes they were and they passed similar bills.Nice try.
88kmitchell 1 month ago
@88kmitchell Mao and Stalin were atheists, sure but they are nothing like Richard Dawkins or Thunderf00t. If you want to put them in the same box you might as well put humans in the same box with nazis. After all, all nazis were humans, NONE animals or aliens.
There is no evidence that your congress is run by atheists. I don't believe in crazy conspiracy theories and no true scotsman fallacies.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
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GrecoWrestlerNJ70 1 month ago
When people demand their own way, God will give it to them. The atheists want a world in which there is no God. They're going to get it. Seven years worth of it under the Anti-Christ, of hell on earth. By the time it's over, most of them will be dead.
mrtadreamer 1 month ago
@mrtadreamer You know when we say we don't want God in our lives, that actually means: "We don't want preachers and religious nutjobs claiming to be representatives of God making ridiculous demands and telling people how to live their lives."
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
I love a good trolling. You just earned yourself a like sir! ;)
hippo11222 1 month ago
@VyckRo Oh and about this thing about Thunderf00t losing a debate to Ray Comfort? What are you talking about??? LOL! The man's just an arrogant creationist who claims absolute knowledge about the beginning of the Universe. That was insta-fail and his objections to evolution are completely childish too.
WBC didn't win either, they didn't even consider it a debate, they just wanted to preach. How is being a loud mouth prick constantly interrupting your "opponent" a "win"?
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@VyckRo Also no more war on evolution or any other science that conflicts with a particular dogma. Remember all those fanatics who want to ban stem cell research and cloning for PURELY religious reasons because "only God can give life therefore cloning is wrong"? (Now personally I do oppose human cloning, but NOT for religious reasons.)
Yeah, they get political power even though the US constitution clearly states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"?
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise Right. Do you understand that this part of the constitution is a) not using the word 'respect' in the sense of 'admire' or 'acknowledge' or 'give credibility and that b) the very point is that government cannot tell religions what to do or how to vote or what they can or cannot do? Do you comprehend this? Please try and grasp this and then feel free to delete your own post. Thx.
TheRightOffensive 1 month ago
@TheRightOffensive Oh I see how it is. So you want to have all the freedom from government intervention. You don't even want to pay taxes despite depending on the same public services (police, military, construction of roads etc.)
But you want the same government to interfere with the freedom of everyone else... Forget that I'm an atheist, I can be arrested in your country merely for soliciting an escort because you THINK it makes baby Jesus cry.
What a hypocrite.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise No, you do not see. You completely missed it and went so far off the rails that I doubt there is any hope of getting you back on track. Complete and total fail. I strongly recommending you stop commenting or thinking about these subjects. Sincerely.
TheRightOffensive 1 month ago
@TheRightOffensive Even if that was the case, religious laws go against the very foundations of your country "liberty and pursuit of happiness".
How can a man be free or happy when you impose an arbitrary morality founded on uncertainties he doesn't believe in? Think about it.
Would you like to live under Sharia? No? Well, then keep religion to yourself, out of the public zone.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise Uh no, it means you would have the liberty to pursue happiness which might be your desire to believe in no gods or your desire to wear a large black religious hat. If YOU (you personally) don't find happiness in that they YOU are free to do whatever you like. Wow.. it's like you don't 'comprehend ideas' at all?
TheRightOffensive 1 month ago
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@DogmasDemise Uh no, it means you would have the liberty to pursue happiness which might be your desire to believe in no gods or your desire to wear a large black religious hat. If YOU (you personally) don't find happiness in that they YOU are free to do whatever you like. Wow.. it's like you don't 'comprehend ideas' at all?
TheRightOffensive 1 month ago
@TheRightOffensive Luckly, I don't live in the US, I live in Romania, where my taxes go to building a mega-cathedral instead of I dunno... improving our failing healthcare system perhaps?
What an improvement.
Neither USA nor Romania are as secular as they should be.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise In Romania you might have to repay Churches for the money stolen by Atheist regimes. I don't know about that. What I do know is that you are missing the point entirely with the US constitution. There government is not allowed to interfere with religions in any way. Religious people (and ALL people, ANY people) are 100% allowed to vote for any kind of policy Reps they want. Nearly the 'opposite' of where you seemed to be going with that.
TheRightOffensive 1 month ago
@TheRightOffensive The Orthodox Church was not the only one robbed, PEOPLE got robbed out of their homes too, their houses simply taken.
That doesn't mean those people are now entitled to a sort of permanent welfare. No, they filed a claim and got their house back. If that was not possible they got compensation or filed a lawsuit.
If the Church feels entitled to something it can file a lawsuit, not demand hand-outs.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise So your complaint is that some people were being compensated but not everyone has been compensated. A Church receiving some kind of 'welfare' isn't cool with me either but then again I suspect you don't know what you are talking about.
TheRightOffensive 1 month ago 6
@TheRightOffensive No, my complaint is that if you feel entitled to compensation there are ways to pursue it. For example after '89 you could file a claim and get your property back/compensated. If that wasn't enough, you could file a lawsuit to recover other damages.
I know what I'm talking about, the Romanian state funds the church like any other public institution (health, police etc.). And yet people STILL have to pay funeral fees and such. It's a cash machine.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@DogmasDemise So you were not complaining about Churches receiving compensation (or their lands back). I will say this again: I am not happy with the idea of state-funded Churches but I'd have to hear the story from from VickRo and not you.
TheRightOffensive 1 month ago
@TheRightOffensive Yes I'm sure the man who thinks that if atheism is true therefore communism is the correct ideology is an authority on the subject. (Really this is what he says, ask him what he thinks about an atheist who is 100% free market capitalist.)
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@VyckRo Look man, our "political agenda" is very simple, even some moderate Christians would support it.
No more religious laws.
No more public funding of any religion.
No more special privileges for churches like tax exemption.
No more banning of homosexuality, abortion or prostitution for religious reasons.
No more war on sex education.
No more ridiculous abstinence-only programs.
And communist gatherings have NOTHING in common with secular gatherings. You KNOW that. Stop lying.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@VyckRo Wow! You found a loophole. A technicality. You really think that's going to get you to USA for free? :)) People are on to your trolling you know.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
Yea!! I hope you win bro!
wazpoppin9 1 month ago
Came here from TheCartesianTheist's channel. Good video brother!
thrik 1 month ago
You're quite right - there have been many secular gatherings with many, many more people before this one. You obeyed the rules of a response video. Have you tried to send it as a response video? Was it denied?
TheCartesianTheist 1 month ago
@TheCartesianTheist
not yet, for two reasons:
a) To do not present myself with a very small number of visitors ( I want to have over 150/200)
b) that video still has no answer, yet ( if I will be the first this video will be buried in the responses list, my channel is not dependent from the visitors who come indirectly by Video-responses, so when I will have a decent number of visitors, and T.foot video already have a few VideoResponses then I wil came whit my video)
VyckRo 1 month ago
@VyckRo
Good tactics. Allow me to try to help then...
TheCartesianTheist 1 month ago
Hit the like button. Hope it helps.
Funny how the reaqsonable atheists are the most unreasonable when it comes to talking to others and their faith. Dawkins chickened out from a debate with WLC, was made to look rather silly be McGrath, and now has to make sure he has a friendly audience who will not challlenge his obvious lack of understanding of the basics of faith.
The New Philistinism has its own rally? OK, who wins, a faith rally or this absurd gathering of the mental midgets?
jfrontier1 1 month ago
@jfrontier1
Thank you!
Indeed, after all, the believers are those who are always open to explain their faith.
Atheists instead, prefer audience who will not challlenge their opinion.
VyckRo 1 month ago
@VyckRo Thanks alot.
Starwalker52 1 month ago
@VyckRo Thank you kindly I really like the way you did this one.
Matchstick41 1 month ago
@VyckRo I'm here aren't I?
d007ization 1 month ago
@jfrontier1 "or this absurd gathering of the mental midgets?"
Don't you just feel that Christian love? ROFL.
DogmasDemise 1 month ago
@LouGojira2 "No offense to clowns by calling Dawkins one of course."
That's right. Be careful not to offend those who are really clowns by profession, lol hahaha. Even though Dawkins comes close.
Oh dag, I also hope there were no clowns offended by my comment :)
YhwhKhaiMostHigh 1 month ago
who will join them.they are lunatics
arthegor 1 month ago
@arthegor That's what I'm wondering. Louis Farrakhan couldn't even rally one million Muslims for his Million Man March...so how in the world are these New Atheist types hoping to have a significant turn-out?
LouGojira2 1 month ago
Very good video VyckRo, atheism is surely a religion, a false one indeed.
Nobleeagle100 1 month ago
hahahaha nice one VyckRo.
Oh? So Dawkins isn't too "busy" to show up at this pathetic rally?
YhwhKhaiMostHigh 1 month ago
@YhwhKhaiMostHigh Yes, it's pretty clear that Dawkins will go where he knows he'll have a stacked audience that agree with him in advance, but he seems hard pressed to go where his views may be challenged. How anybody can support this clown or even take him remotely serious is beyond me.
No offense to clowns by calling Dawkins one of course.
LouGojira2 1 month ago
Send this video to all your friends!
VyckRo 1 month ago
@VyckRo I have subbed and liked. Be blessed.
PrimeJustice40 1 month ago