If you are talking about activating Torrential when Caius activated his effect, then you are mistaken. He was activating Torrential in response to the summon of Caius, not it trying to remove it. In addition why wouldn't he be able to chain anything? An effect has been activated so priority shifts to mustduel so he may respond.
problem is (and this was 2 month ago) he should have activated torrential first before the effect go into play but the effect did go into play, so he couldn't activate torrential. Cauis effect was to removed a card if summoned successful. it was because he never chained the summon so torrential should have been removed. Like i said before, if he chained the summon cauis is dead and torrential isn't removed
Thats not strictly true, you see Caius' summon was successful as it wasn't negated (with something like Solemn Judgement or Forced Back etc)so Caius' effect MUST activate as it is a mandatory trigger effect. If the summon wasn't successful then you wouldn't be able to activate Torrential Tribute lol. There is no oppertunity to activate Torrential before Caius chooses his target as, since the summon was successful, Cauis must activate, then priority shifts to the opponent to respond.
but if you read torrential tribute effect it's destroy monsters when there is a summon in effect. Caius was summoned and he need to be SUCCESSFULLY summoned. but he wasn't successfully summoned. to successfully summon, the monster should be in play still without any chaining.
You are half right. Think of it this way, if Torrential can only be actiavted when a monster is summoned, how can you activate it if the monster isn't successfully summoned? In Yu-Gi-Oh a monster is considered successfully summoned when niether player negates the summon. Torrential doesn't negate anything and can be activated in the summon response window.
Well yeah thats (95%) right but that wasn't your original point, your original point (as I read it) was that torrential should have been activated first before Caius effect could be actiavted. But anyway, the chain and resoloution you just described are fine except for one small point, Torrential wouldn't go to the grave until the chain is resolved. No cards activated in a chain go to the grave until the chain the resolves unless something sends them there. Or, in this case, RFGs them.
wtf~~
CITYLOS213 3 years ago
Go Stardust Dragon!
I hate attacking into that card at the end! It pisses me off!
Good duel, Guys.
Darkrichician84 3 years ago
i see i see ok then
carange2 3 years ago
you can not link a remove
carange2 3 years ago
If you are talking about activating Torrential when Caius activated his effect, then you are mistaken. He was activating Torrential in response to the summon of Caius, not it trying to remove it. In addition why wouldn't he be able to chain anything? An effect has been activated so priority shifts to mustduel so he may respond.
tehferret 3 years ago
problem is (and this was 2 month ago) he should have activated torrential first before the effect go into play but the effect did go into play, so he couldn't activate torrential. Cauis effect was to removed a card if summoned successful. it was because he never chained the summon so torrential should have been removed. Like i said before, if he chained the summon cauis is dead and torrential isn't removed
DrunkenLee 3 years ago
Thats not strictly true, you see Caius' summon was successful as it wasn't negated (with something like Solemn Judgement or Forced Back etc)so Caius' effect MUST activate as it is a mandatory trigger effect. If the summon wasn't successful then you wouldn't be able to activate Torrential Tribute lol. There is no oppertunity to activate Torrential before Caius chooses his target as, since the summon was successful, Cauis must activate, then priority shifts to the opponent to respond.
tehferret 3 years ago
but if you read torrential tribute effect it's destroy monsters when there is a summon in effect. Caius was summoned and he need to be SUCCESSFULLY summoned. but he wasn't successfully summoned. to successfully summon, the monster should be in play still without any chaining.
DrunkenLee 3 years ago
You are half right. Think of it this way, if Torrential can only be actiavted when a monster is summoned, how can you activate it if the monster isn't successfully summoned? In Yu-Gi-Oh a monster is considered successfully summoned when niether player negates the summon. Torrential doesn't negate anything and can be activated in the summon response window.
tehferret 3 years ago
well i think we should put it to a better format
Link 1:Caius effect target torrential
Link 2:Torrential activates from summoning
end link
Resolution 2: Torrential destroy all monster and torrential goes to grave
Resolution 1:Caius has no target and effect disappears.
resolution ends
so yea i think this is how it should work
DrunkenLee 3 years ago
Well yeah thats (95%) right but that wasn't your original point, your original point (as I read it) was that torrential should have been activated first before Caius effect could be actiavted. But anyway, the chain and resoloution you just described are fine except for one small point, Torrential wouldn't go to the grave until the chain is resolved. No cards activated in a chain go to the grave until the chain the resolves unless something sends them there. Or, in this case, RFGs them.
tehferret 3 years ago
Also, I apologise if I have misunderstood your point this entire time
tehferret 3 years ago