Ken Ham and AIG web site is racist. They are basing these claims off of there own racist opinion on the subject of evolution but refuse to present a tested hypothesis SHOWING how one race is genetically superior to anther based on the evolutionary model as they claim.
Racism clearly existed before Darwin however, Neo Darwinism gave to many what was thought to be a scientific justification for racism via survival of the fittest, natural selection, law of the jungle etc. There are even some notable contemporary scholars who still believe that blacks are less evolved and that science should trump political correctness like the legendary james Watson. I call it evolutions dirty little secret..............
cont......"He recognized that the prevailing belief was that all human groups are equal, but that "people who have to deal with black employees find this not true." "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically," "Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so."
anyway the bible says its ok to have slaves, this was also the reason there was a civil war in the us, because the south said, look here the bible says its ok to have slaves, and since they didnt know evolution yet, they said men is created equal, so these darkskined ones cant be human, thats even beyond racism, i think when it comes to racism and slavery, religious people should step back silently with some red of shame on their face
The aborginal people where living in the stone ages when whites showed up so I can see how those crappy attitudes persisted in the white man. I've read some of the aristocrats in England and around the world think they have evolved into a different species than the common man. So that stuff still goes on today. Darwin said some ugly things, but when you take off those rose colored glasses and look at the world the way it really is, it's pretty brutal ! The truth hurts and it hurts bad.
Darwin stated that if a particular organism or species didn't have the right traits to survive in their current environment than they would be weeded out by predators.
Hitler & Stalin CHOOSE to BE predators & they conditioned society to force out individuals that they saw as prey.
Hitler did what creationists do to scientists they took phrases that could sound as though they support their claims & the censor or remove any other phrase before or after that says the contrary.
"Darwin stated that if a particular organism or species didn't have the right traits to survive in their current environment than they would be weeded out by predators."
The traits you might be refering to are 'junk DNA'. They neither harm nor benefit the organism in any way so they accumialate(?).
However its not just genetics that are involved! The environment organisms live in also determines whether they survive. When the environment for organisms changes from what they are adapted to then the 'junk DNA' becomes apparent & is either bred out or the species itself dies out.
He is not blaming all racism on evolution, He is stating that of course evolution gave a larger platform for racist to have an excuse to treat people of color like animals because they were less developed in their evolutionary development. You cannot read darwinism without thinking of; depopulation, eugenics, euthinasia. Hitler, Margret sanger, were all huge darwinism fans..and it is continued to today. How many Hispanics, indians or blacks really believe evolution? It is a racist thinking.
In what kind of bubble you live in? I have NEVER heard a single hispanic, black or indian claiming evolution was racist. I should know, I am hispanic, with a mix of black, white and indian in me.
The same way you can't think about burning witches, massacring Jerusalem in the 1st Crusades, slavery, the deliberate ignorance of murdering communists, jews, gypsies, homosexuals & Russians by german soldiers who weren't nazis but did it anyway because Hitler convinced them that all of them were 'anti-christian'.
If i was in that audience i would have hit that guy, his understanding of australian history is so scewed and altered its discusting, Christian groups stole children form aborigional tribes and raised them in christian boarding schools and made them go to church and stuff, THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING AS RECENTLY AS THE SEVENTIES!!, its called the stolen generation, and its a discusting part of my countries history that is to be blamed entirely on christianity.
According to evolution Black people were the first people to evolve from apes and then some of them moved to different parts of the world and evloved into different races.
if black people evolved from apes then were would be no black people, populations evolve, not individuals, homo sapiens evolved and spread, black people and all the races changed the way they did because of adaptions to their environments.
@mhale71 no but the eugenics movement who committed horrible atrocities against african americans were inspired by darwimian evolution, and darwin even taught that there were inferior races. So how can you not think he was racist?
Darwin described 'inferior' races to those who don't possess the traits or means necessary to survive in the environment.
Humans can swim right? But Humans can't live underwater w/out the help of technology. But biologically we're not FIT to live underwater! You get what I'm saying?
@mhale71 Google Ota Benga, or Human Zoo. Maybe its quite old, that the theory of evolution back then was a bit harsh to negroes. If not, then why so desperate to put them in the zoo, to fool the public that such negroes are just well-evolved apes? Prove it, if not.. why the racist mindset here from you failing unproven evolution?
If the source information provided by djarm67 is correct then Ken has greatly distorted the telling of this myth to make it fit a christian model. Pretty typical of many media guided evangelicals. Seems to follow the lutheran - bearing false witness in the name of jesus is NOT really violating the 10 commandments.
No, christians have been fighting evolution since day 1, yet they didn't accept integration of blacks since the 70's under the belief that they had to preserve the divinity of the white race.
Though they blame evolution, which they didn't even bother to learn about it in the first place. Course it was a perfect scape goat for them to throw their own inhumanities on to save their own hides.
@Yujifanik where do you get your info? so christians decided whether blacks would be intergrated? are you reading American history according to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? lolololololol
You don't need to observe something to know how it happened; you only need evidence. By your logic most criminals shouldn't be convicted because no one witnessed their crimes.
"(the stuff about Brittish Scientists)" And, what did teh Christians do to prevent this?
"Eramus Darwin"
What?
Sometimes I can't believe how dishonest Creationist are. He's blaming a theory published in 1859 for stuff a man who dies in 1802 suposedly did. Probably didn't do it at all.
"Sometimes I can't believe how dishonest Creationist are. He's blaming a theory published in 1859 for stuff a man who dies in 1802 suposedly did. Probably didn't do it at all."
Question; did he forms these opinions BEFORE or AFTER developing his theory of Evolution? I mean, did he jave a low opinion of the people he actually saw on his voyage? I believe he did. Therefore he was racist while he was still a Christian.
"Charles Darwin as a racist" No arguement there. By today's standards he WAS racist. But the standards of the CHRISTIAN SOCIETY OF THE MID 19th CENTURY he was average.
The first answer to Racism that comes to my mind is crossbreeding. People of mixed heritage tend to be extremely opposed to Racism. Another one is education. A third is actually to GET RID of Religion.
Ken Ham and AIG web site is racist. They are basing these claims off of there own racist opinion on the subject of evolution but refuse to present a tested hypothesis SHOWING how one race is genetically superior to anther based on the evolutionary model as they claim.
TheMrgoku1985 2 months ago
Wow, vote-botted to fuck and back.
yermomsboxx 6 months ago
Racism clearly existed before Darwin however, Neo Darwinism gave to many what was thought to be a scientific justification for racism via survival of the fittest, natural selection, law of the jungle etc. There are even some notable contemporary scholars who still believe that blacks are less evolved and that science should trump political correctness like the legendary james Watson. I call it evolutions dirty little secret..............
benthemiester 10 months ago
cont......"He recognized that the prevailing belief was that all human groups are equal, but that "people who have to deal with black employees find this not true." "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically," "Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so."
James Watson 2007
benthemiester 10 months ago
anyway the bible says its ok to have slaves, this was also the reason there was a civil war in the us, because the south said, look here the bible says its ok to have slaves, and since they didnt know evolution yet, they said men is created equal, so these darkskined ones cant be human, thats even beyond racism, i think when it comes to racism and slavery, religious people should step back silently with some red of shame on their face
MGsven 10 months ago
@MGsven .....Actually, that's not even remotely close to what started the Civil War in America.
Laylow4now 4 months ago
The aborginal people where living in the stone ages when whites showed up so I can see how those crappy attitudes persisted in the white man. I've read some of the aristocrats in England and around the world think they have evolved into a different species than the common man. So that stuff still goes on today. Darwin said some ugly things, but when you take off those rose colored glasses and look at the world the way it really is, it's pretty brutal ! The truth hurts and it hurts bad.
flubno 2 years ago
wow, thanks ken ham!
i would never have guessed the KKK were atheist darwinists!
they sure do a good job of hiding it.
foxmcloud555 2 years ago
Darwin stated that if a particular organism or species didn't have the right traits to survive in their current environment than they would be weeded out by predators.
Hitler & Stalin CHOOSE to BE predators & they conditioned society to force out individuals that they saw as prey.
Hitler did what creationists do to scientists they took phrases that could sound as though they support their claims & the censor or remove any other phrase before or after that says the contrary.
Yujifanik 3 years ago
"Darwin stated that if a particular organism or species didn't have the right traits to survive in their current environment than they would be weeded out by predators."
Where did those useless traits come from?
dirtydkb24fan 2 years ago
The traits you might be refering to are 'junk DNA'. They neither harm nor benefit the organism in any way so they accumialate(?).
However its not just genetics that are involved! The environment organisms live in also determines whether they survive. When the environment for organisms changes from what they are adapted to then the 'junk DNA' becomes apparent & is either bred out or the species itself dies out.
Yujifanik 2 years ago
Hitler was anti-christian because the Biblical origins of Jesus was that he was the son of a Jewish marriage, therefore Jesus was a Jew.
Yujifanik 3 years ago
He is not blaming all racism on evolution, He is stating that of course evolution gave a larger platform for racist to have an excuse to treat people of color like animals because they were less developed in their evolutionary development. You cannot read darwinism without thinking of; depopulation, eugenics, euthinasia. Hitler, Margret sanger, were all huge darwinism fans..and it is continued to today. How many Hispanics, indians or blacks really believe evolution? It is a racist thinking.
rumblefishsophia 3 years ago
In what kind of bubble you live in? I have NEVER heard a single hispanic, black or indian claiming evolution was racist. I should know, I am hispanic, with a mix of black, white and indian in me.
astrayengel 3 years ago
The same way you can't think about burning witches, massacring Jerusalem in the 1st Crusades, slavery, the deliberate ignorance of murdering communists, jews, gypsies, homosexuals & Russians by german soldiers who weren't nazis but did it anyway because Hitler convinced them that all of them were 'anti-christian'.
Yujifanik 3 years ago
Thats when you hear Christianity for yourself & not through some auditor who doesn't even bother to learn about the subject he's arguing against.
Yujifanik 3 years ago
@Yujifanik Oh come on Hitler wasn't sentimental to christians, he was a theosophist, which are satanists.
homelesspoet 1 year ago
@homelesspoet Yeah & he was raised Christian & even wanted to be a priest when he was younger! Look how he turned out!
Yujifanik 1 year ago
If i was in that audience i would have hit that guy, his understanding of australian history is so scewed and altered its discusting, Christian groups stole children form aborigional tribes and raised them in christian boarding schools and made them go to church and stuff, THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING AS RECENTLY AS THE SEVENTIES!!, its called the stolen generation, and its a discusting part of my countries history that is to be blamed entirely on christianity.
mhale71 3 years ago
Ken Ham isn't saying that evolution started rascism. He's saying it made it worst. And it did.
ArcBladeKnight 3 years ago
dickheaded peoples interpretations made it worse, a scientific theory cant do anything.
mhale71 3 years ago
According to evolution Black people were the first people to evolve from apes and then some of them moved to different parts of the world and evloved into different races.
Evolution is a racist thoery.
ArcBladeKnight 3 years ago
if black people evolved from apes then were would be no black people, populations evolve, not individuals, homo sapiens evolved and spread, black people and all the races changed the way they did because of adaptions to their environments.
mhale71 3 years ago
That doesn't change the fact that evolution is racist.
ArcBladeKnight 3 years ago
Evolution is not racist: You're a retard.
mhale71 3 years ago 4
And personal attacks wont change that either. You just don't want to admit that your evolution religion is evil.
ArcBladeKnight 3 years ago
@mhale71 no but the eugenics movement who committed horrible atrocities against african americans were inspired by darwimian evolution, and darwin even taught that there were inferior races. So how can you not think he was racist?
homelesspoet 1 year ago
@homelesspoet NO it wasn't!
Darwin described 'inferior' races to those who don't possess the traits or means necessary to survive in the environment.
Humans can swim right? But Humans can't live underwater w/out the help of technology. But biologically we're not FIT to live underwater! You get what I'm saying?
Yujifanik 1 year ago
@mhale71 Google Ota Benga, or Human Zoo. Maybe its quite old, that the theory of evolution back then was a bit harsh to negroes. If not, then why so desperate to put them in the zoo, to fool the public that such negroes are just well-evolved apes? Prove it, if not.. why the racist mindset here from you failing unproven evolution?
gearzone2611 1 year ago
evolution isn't a sentient being, its not a being at all so stop trying to personify it as those it is.
Yujifanik 3 years ago
*as THOUGH it is.
Yujifanik 3 years ago
If the source information provided by djarm67 is correct then Ken has greatly distorted the telling of this myth to make it fit a christian model. Pretty typical of many media guided evangelicals. Seems to follow the lutheran - bearing false witness in the name of jesus is NOT really violating the 10 commandments.
generationalist 3 years ago
Ken Ham's argument is not that evolution caused racism but rather that it fueled it!
mrdandrea 3 years ago
No, christians have been fighting evolution since day 1, yet they didn't accept integration of blacks since the 70's under the belief that they had to preserve the divinity of the white race.
Yujifanik 3 years ago 4
Though they blame evolution, which they didn't even bother to learn about it in the first place. Course it was a perfect scape goat for them to throw their own inhumanities on to save their own hides.
Yujifanik 3 years ago
@Yujifanik where do you get your info? so christians decided whether blacks would be intergrated? are you reading American history according to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? lolololololol
homelesspoet 1 year ago
@homelesspoet No. I'm stating history as it is!
Yujifanik 1 year ago
stronger stock not evolution (the Idea of stronger stock has been around for as long as animal husbandry).
Deathlordtwo 3 years ago
There is only one race in the world, and that is the human race.
alvaro18 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Creationists never maliciously defend themselves by attacking people that disagree with them.
Just admit that evolution is a belief and faith system based off of terrible science of the unobserved, ideal, 'assumed', circumstances.
oballazplaya2 3 years ago
You don't need to observe something to know how it happened; you only need evidence. By your logic most criminals shouldn't be convicted because no one witnessed their crimes.
And evolution has been proven.
bluecode320 3 years ago 2
Creationists idiots. Need we say more?
PrometheansFire 3 years ago
Very nice, but I'd rather hear your voice, like for example DonExodus does.
MarcinP2 3 years ago
"There were racist attitudes before Darwin"
OK, this better be good.
"(the stuff about Brittish Scientists)" And, what did teh Christians do to prevent this?
"Eramus Darwin"
What?
Sometimes I can't believe how dishonest Creationist are. He's blaming a theory published in 1859 for stuff a man who dies in 1802 suposedly did. Probably didn't do it at all.
dechha1981 3 years ago 2
"Sometimes I can't believe how dishonest Creationist are. He's blaming a theory published in 1859 for stuff a man who dies in 1802 suposedly did. Probably didn't do it at all."
Yep , I noticed that too.
TMTGAU 3 years ago
"Inherantly a racist philosophy"
Question; did he forms these opinions BEFORE or AFTER developing his theory of Evolution? I mean, did he jave a low opinion of the people he actually saw on his voyage? I believe he did. Therefore he was racist while he was still a Christian.
dechha1981 3 years ago
"Charles Darwin as a racist" No arguement there. By today's standards he WAS racist. But the standards of the CHRISTIAN SOCIETY OF THE MID 19th CENTURY he was average.
dechha1981 3 years ago
Also, muslims claim that Islam is an answer to Racism, because Muslims only judge people by whether or not they're Muslims. Yeah. MUCH better :\
"Does this remind you of anything?"
Yes. Indeed. Aborigal mythology DOES remind me of the Bible.
dechha1981 3 years ago
"What is the only answer to Racism?"
The first answer to Racism that comes to my mind is crossbreeding. People of mixed heritage tend to be extremely opposed to Racism. Another one is education. A third is actually to GET RID of Religion.
dechha1981 3 years ago