Fantastic live Wynton M at his fluent best>>>great tone, swinging lines, overall a wonderful joyfull exploration of Parker's tongue twisting theme>> Wynton I luv ya
@paulcakebreadable@geekflaglue6345789 THIS is how you play Donna Lee. Not this mechanical lesson in licks. Wynton is a great trumpet player but jazz is about playing what you feel and knowing when to stop. He has a lot to say but nothing at all.
@UncleFester77 Sure, you've said it anyhow. As to that "Clifford crap..." Wynton goes to a different Church than Chris did. Different interpretations. Which has more humaness in the trumpet's voice...who's the better technician...? There are none so "stone deaf" as those who can not hear.
Oright all of you pretentious sluts out there. this man is definatel the boss, and in my opinion the best trumpeter alive atm. so all u complete and utter morons that are going on and on about this not sounding enough like clifford brown or saying that he's failing at trying to emulate....just shut up! the man has gone through enough with all you havin a go at his playing being not original and now ur saying its not as good as clifford's. It's called interrpretation. any real jazzcat can tell ya
@tpstrat14 check out Coltrane's "Soultrane." They play the old standard "Russian Lullaby" at a tempo close to, if not faster than this. THAT'S the fastest quarter note I'VE ever heard haha.
@wetdog158 Some of Brecker's live performances took Some Skunk Funk faster than it ever had to be. Much faster than this or Russian Lullaby. Check it out
Clifford Brown's lines are a bit smoother and hit the changes a little better. Sometimes it sounds like Wynton is trying to overcome the changes through virtuosity instead of play through them- he plays some lines that I don't like. Then again, it's hard to do what Clifford does without sounding exactly like him.
Personally, I'd say the Clifford Brown take (that this is in response to) is superior to this one, and that Brown is a far superior player than Wynton to begin with. It sounds like Wynton is just trying to rip Brown's solo and it's just not working as well for him.
@mpotters1 Agreed, but this is still exceptional. I mean you're holing Wynton to a pretty high standard; Clifford Brown is probably the greatest trumpet player who ever lived.
Come on guys, why cant you just all enjoy an amazing recording from Wynton. Definitely not my favorite version because there's the Clifford Brown version, but man Wynton is insane!
~~~lol~~~ help im drowining in the stupidity of the conversation that took place in the comments.
Its music listen to it dont gripe and grown about it. Besides none of you are the quality of musician to say that he is not great, that includes myself.
Jazzman, I'm sorry I should have been more clear. What I meant was in the melody at the beginning, is he doodle tonguing? or double or triple tonguing?
and I didn't mean to vote down this post, I was trying to click reply.
@slowduck123 It's articulated in the Style of Charlie Parker. Pretty much each eighth note is articulated. But the the eighth note triplets are all slurred. Just listen to a slower recording of it done by the master who wrote it. Charlie Parker. It;ll make sense. I don't think hes doing any sort of extended technique like triple tonguing. He's simply just tonguing his ass off. And thats even harder on the alto saxophone.
technically awesome, but i can't respect wynton. he's a member of the jazz police. he is not cool. he dissed don cherry. and he attempted to cut miles on miles' own bandstand (and we're talking LATE miles - not late 50's miles).
I'm sure he does during random gigs but it's just not in his mainstream right now. He's really digging into that Neo-Classical style that he is most famous for.
@ladytrumpet010 Sorry lady trumpet. Wynton is the boss on jazz trumpet. He does things on that thing that are incredible. He swings like a champ. I'm not a trumpet player, but recently heard him at Jazz in Lincoln Center, and mercy mercy, that cat can play. no slight to Lee Morgan, but wynton is the boss.
@ladytrumpet010 Sorry lady trumpet but Wynton is the Boss. recently heard him at Lincoln Center, and he's better now than he was on this recording at blues alley. I'm no trumpet player, but I'm a huge jazz fan and I know a badass when I hear one. no slight to Lee Morgan, but Wyton is the Boss.
@ladytrumpet010 Sorry ladytrumpet but Wyton Is the Boss. I heard him at Lincoln Center and the cat is incredible. he's better now than he was on that recording at blues alley. No slight to Lee Morgan, but Wynton can flat out swing.
@ladytrumpet010 But you put out there you went to Berklee as if it makes your opinion more credible than anyone else. That's not the case, no more than David Bowie is less credible because he was a self taught musician. But I know what you mean, Wynton's niche is classical, he is a PHENOM, though I do enjoy the jazz he does.
@ladytrumpet010 I'm a functional jazz soloist. No, I'm not the next big thing, but I recognize Wynton's facility and vocabulary on the instrument. He's VERY obviously put in the time, and built upon his talent. Wynton has stated on numerous occasions, by the way, that he respects the playing of those who were there before him (Lee Morgan, Freddie Hubbard, etc). Are you sure you go to Berklee?
@mrstrings65 in 2006, he had an ingrown hair above his top lip that he had to get surgically removed. afterward, he essentially had to "relearn" the horn. he says his chops have been pretty good since since then, but it doesn't feel the same. He's one of the best (or arguably the best) technical trumpet player alive today, although he doesn't have the flexibility he used to have pre-surgery.
I think people should stop giving so much credits to ''classical trumpet technique'' ... In my opinion, it's only trumpet technique... a player could never play classic in all his life but play as well as wynton marsalis... and since hes playing jazz right now, i would say he has a amazing a monstruous trumpet technique... and not ''classical''... but thats only my opinion. Anyways, i think we can both aprove that hes a genius anyway :) (sorry for my english, frenchie here :P )
Brownie did it first, Wynton put his spin on it. Learn something......move on.....Damn.. this is one of the fastest tempos on this composition I have heard.
Amazing. Constant idiocy at such a high level takes subhuman thought(and speech)patterns.
it takes more practice at this tempo to be efficient than it does to become a commercial airline pilot. why dont all you uberinspectors just shut up, and listen to the fucking music instead of trying to put it to words. you cant put music into words....its music...you dumb asshole.
Yeah, good stuff, this. Still prefer Clifford's style to Wynton's, but this particular recording is in my top 50 songs for sure. I like how the sax/drums trade 8's, then 4's, then 2's, then 1's.
Also, I think this is the fastest recording of Donna Lee I have. If anyone has anything faster...Please contact me!!! I must have it!!
I saw Wynton and his horn quartet play Donna Lee at Gilly's in Dayton, Ohio back in the early nineties. They literally blew me away!
After the concert, I invited them via by Limo over to the Nite Owl Club down the street for an unforgettable evening Jam session with my band The Dean Simms Quintet.
They held back nothing! Talking about "Raising the roof" for 3 more hours.
This is a gift I will always cherish. Ultimate Class and gracious they are.
Oh my goodness! That was incredible! I'm so glad I was able to meet a musician of this level. The solo... the trading fours. Wynton had a little of every great trumpet player going into those choruses. Thank you koolpaw for this post!
Fantastic live Wynton M at his fluent best>>>great tone, swinging lines, overall a wonderful joyfull exploration of Parker's tongue twisting theme>> Wynton I luv ya
sevildrib 1 month ago
nice and slow...
nadav20000 2 months ago 7
damn
decus69 3 months ago
@decus69
wesley5383 2 months ago
It won't let me post the video. Search: Donna Lee all star cast Joe Pass Terry Clark Oscar Peterson N.Pederson R.Scott
Augustinemelecio 3 months ago
@paulcakebreadable @geekflaglue6345789 THIS is how you play Donna Lee. Not this mechanical lesson in licks. Wynton is a great trumpet player but jazz is about playing what you feel and knowing when to stop. He has a lot to say but nothing at all.
Augustinemelecio 3 months ago
oh boy, what an ending!
SaxNinj 3 months ago
My below comment was aimed at the ignorant "clifford crap comment only and doesn't reflect on the genius of Mr. Marsalis.
joensab 6 months ago
i always thought that a trumpet couldn't sound good when it's played fast...this song prooved the opposite
LoongChicken 7 months ago
@LoongChicken
Fast and clean. High vurtuosity with sensitiveness. Wynton defenitlly kicks asses.
karitea 7 months ago
Can I say to so many stone deaf members, that this version way better, than Clifford Brown play...
Anyway If you want to hear some false melody let's play that Clifford crap...
UncleFester77 7 months ago
@UncleFester77 Sure, you've said it anyhow. As to that "Clifford crap..." Wynton goes to a different Church than Chris did. Different interpretations. Which has more humaness in the trumpet's voice...who's the better technician...? There are none so "stone deaf" as those who can not hear.
joensab 6 months ago
*Ignoring all of the useless and unfriendly youtube posts*
Really like this, Marsalis sounds good to me.
NicholasFruneaux 7 months ago
Oright all of you pretentious sluts out there. this man is definatel the boss, and in my opinion the best trumpeter alive atm. so all u complete and utter morons that are going on and on about this not sounding enough like clifford brown or saying that he's failing at trying to emulate....just shut up! the man has gone through enough with all you havin a go at his playing being not original and now ur saying its not as good as clifford's. It's called interrpretation. any real jazzcat can tell ya
atadsatirical 7 months ago
that is the fastest quarter note I'VE ever heard.... don't know about yall.... shiiiiit
tpstrat14 7 months ago
@tpstrat14 check out Coltrane's "Soultrane." They play the old standard "Russian Lullaby" at a tempo close to, if not faster than this. THAT'S the fastest quarter note I'VE ever heard haha.
wetdog158 5 months ago
@wetdog158 Some of Brecker's live performances took Some Skunk Funk faster than it ever had to be. Much faster than this or Russian Lullaby. Check it out
imanoob 5 months ago
sounds like clifford man
nunchuckification 7 months ago
I don't have anything against fast playing, but this just sucks the melody right out of the song.
Sunderlanding 8 months ago
Clifford Brown's lines are a bit smoother and hit the changes a little better. Sometimes it sounds like Wynton is trying to overcome the changes through virtuosity instead of play through them- he plays some lines that I don't like. Then again, it's hard to do what Clifford does without sounding exactly like him.
IsaacDarcheMusic 9 months ago
@IsaacDarcheMusic its not clifford
gleekflaglue6345789 3 months ago
I JUST JIzZED IN MY panTZ
bartsoco 9 months ago
My opinion stands :)
ladytrumpet010 10 months ago
6 people had a seizure because of this song
guitarhero343 10 months ago
I went to Berklee too :)
Blokeio 10 months ago
@Blokeio oh shit
gleekflaglue6345789 3 months ago
:O
mrjazzydude 11 months ago
Nakariakov's chops, Brownie's ideas.....
rsalvucc1 1 year ago 2
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rsalvucc1 1 year ago
Personally, I'd say the Clifford Brown take (that this is in response to) is superior to this one, and that Brown is a far superior player than Wynton to begin with. It sounds like Wynton is just trying to rip Brown's solo and it's just not working as well for him.
mpotters1 1 year ago
@mpotters1 Agreed, but this is still exceptional. I mean you're holing Wynton to a pretty high standard; Clifford Brown is probably the greatest trumpet player who ever lived.
polymath7 11 months ago
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kumanalex 7 months ago
@kumanalex Nonsense. Sorry.
polymath7 7 months ago
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kumanalex 7 months ago
@kumanalex *chuckle*
Fuck off. Pick a language, and learn to use it competently, before you go telling me for what "kind of evaluation" I am permitted to use the net.
polymath7 7 months ago
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kumanalex 7 months ago
Come on guys, why cant you just all enjoy an amazing recording from Wynton. Definitely not my favorite version because there's the Clifford Brown version, but man Wynton is insane!
MrRemiCormier 1 year ago
~~~lol~~~ help im drowining in the stupidity of the conversation that took place in the comments.
Its music listen to it dont gripe and grown about it. Besides none of you are the quality of musician to say that he is not great, that includes myself.
Just remeber he can outplay any of us any day.
steelpeach100 1 year ago
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ladytrumpet010 1 year ago
I love his tone and articulations! Amazing! I also love Wes Anderson!
HitzvilleTV 1 year ago
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HitzvilleTV 1 year ago
Wish I had some Space Jam skill stealing capabilities.
USMChiLD 1 year ago
what's his articulation on this piece?
slowduck123 1 year ago
@slowduck123 What does that even mean?
Jazzman303 1 year ago
Jazzman, I'm sorry I should have been more clear. What I meant was in the melody at the beginning, is he doodle tonguing? or double or triple tonguing?
and I didn't mean to vote down this post, I was trying to click reply.
slowduck123 1 year ago
@slowduck123 It's articulated in the Style of Charlie Parker. Pretty much each eighth note is articulated. But the the eighth note triplets are all slurred. Just listen to a slower recording of it done by the master who wrote it. Charlie Parker. It;ll make sense. I don't think hes doing any sort of extended technique like triple tonguing. He's simply just tonguing his ass off. And thats even harder on the alto saxophone.
Jazzman303 1 year ago
technically awesome, but i can't respect wynton. he's a member of the jazz police. he is not cool. he dissed don cherry. and he attempted to cut miles on miles' own bandstand (and we're talking LATE miles - not late 50's miles).
jaimepaullamb 1 year ago
wynton is killin
edub82 1 year ago
this just fucked my shit up.
bbaker90 1 year ago 3
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womb0womb0 1 year ago
this is aboslute rape<3
Mesmer54 1 year ago 3
well done Wynton keeping bebop alive and soundin' cool
blackbear40269 1 year ago
bit too cerebral for me.. not saying its bad!!
neilorourke71 1 year ago
2:56 -> "ooh, play that again..." :D
Teusnobel 2 years ago 4
Is he doodle tounging? That would be nuts.
Roboctopus 2 years ago
lol i love the cute ending
austinlee168 2 years ago
Why does'nt Wynton play like this anymore?
mrstrings65 2 years ago 46
@mrstrings65 dunno, maybe he's doin the Miles thing and stretching out into new places.
ktrumpet67 2 years ago
I'm sure he does during random gigs but it's just not in his mainstream right now. He's really digging into that Neo-Classical style that he is most famous for.
kaseyWtrumpet 2 years ago
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ladytrumpet010 1 year ago
@ladytrumpet010 hes better than lee morgan in my opinion
thavault 1 year ago
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ladytrumpet010 1 year ago
@ladytrumpet010 Complete bollocks!
nwtrucker38 1 year ago
@ladytrumpet010 Sorry lady trumpet. Wynton is the boss on jazz trumpet. He does things on that thing that are incredible. He swings like a champ. I'm not a trumpet player, but recently heard him at Jazz in Lincoln Center, and mercy mercy, that cat can play. no slight to Lee Morgan, but wynton is the boss.
sandy6968 1 year ago
@ladytrumpet010 Sorry lady trumpet but Wynton is the Boss. recently heard him at Lincoln Center, and he's better now than he was on this recording at blues alley. I'm no trumpet player, but I'm a huge jazz fan and I know a badass when I hear one. no slight to Lee Morgan, but Wyton is the Boss.
sandy6968 1 year ago
@ladytrumpet010
sandy6968 1 year ago
@ladytrumpet010 Sorry ladytrumpet but Wyton Is the Boss. I heard him at Lincoln Center and the cat is incredible. he's better now than he was on that recording at blues alley. No slight to Lee Morgan, but Wynton can flat out swing.
sandy6968 1 year ago
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ladytrumpet010 1 year ago
@ladytrumpet010 my bad I'm sure you swing harder than wynton.
sandy6968 1 year ago
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ladytrumpet010 1 year ago
@ladytrumpet010
well if you go to berklee you MUST know what you are talking about
sonotera 1 year ago
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ladytrumpet010 1 year ago
@ladytrumpet010 But you put out there you went to Berklee as if it makes your opinion more credible than anyone else. That's not the case, no more than David Bowie is less credible because he was a self taught musician. But I know what you mean, Wynton's niche is classical, he is a PHENOM, though I do enjoy the jazz he does.
GAshoneybear 10 months ago
@sonotera lol
LouisKeys 1 year ago
@ladytrumpet010
"he is not a good jazz player dont get me wrong hes good" nice one genius
sonotera 1 year ago
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ladytrumpet010 1 year ago
@sonotera sure - your are right - not
gleekflaglue6345789 3 months ago
@ladytrumpet010 I'm a functional jazz soloist. No, I'm not the next big thing, but I recognize Wynton's facility and vocabulary on the instrument. He's VERY obviously put in the time, and built upon his talent. Wynton has stated on numerous occasions, by the way, that he respects the playing of those who were there before him (Lee Morgan, Freddie Hubbard, etc). Are you sure you go to Berklee?
blasticore 1 year ago
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ladytrumpet010 1 year ago
Has his playing really changed that much in the past 5 years?
womb0womb0 1 year ago
I just usually hear him in a kind of Miles bag.
mrstrings65 1 year ago
@mrstrings65 Cause most times less is more.
enakrium 1 year ago
@mrstrings65 in 2006, he had an ingrown hair above his top lip that he had to get surgically removed. afterward, he essentially had to "relearn" the horn. he says his chops have been pretty good since since then, but it doesn't feel the same. He's one of the best (or arguably the best) technical trumpet player alive today, although he doesn't have the flexibility he used to have pre-surgery.
copedogg888 1 year ago
@copedogg888
so..... he`s like some boobies now? ;-)
yohannes80 1 year ago
@mrstrings65 he has never stayed in one setting,,, which is nice in itself, you hear the different tunes in different styles. i like it
IhaveaCstring 1 year ago
@mrstrings65 because it's ridiculously easy for him!! lol love this playing I wish he'd do it more too.
conorJones 1 year ago
@mrstrings65 I think he finally realized how much of an unmusical piece of shit this is. his recent recordings have been getting better.
Shawnieboy33 7 months ago
@mrstrings65 your an asshole. This CD is five years old.
trane1959 5 months ago
@mrstrings65 Because he plays even better:)
vytautanious 4 months ago 7
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SwingtoBop 2 years ago
Miles isn't about that.
SwingtoBop 2 years ago 6
He was sometimes. Heard "Four & More"? He's out for blood on that one.
Bluesnswing 2 years ago
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holy cow...he plays this twice as fast as Miles Davis
randomisnotgood 2 years ago
I suggest everyone to get the album "Live at The House Of Tribes" because is one of the best live I've ever heard! The sound is amazing!!
Protozoo79 2 years ago
This starts out at 320bpm, is 340 after the drum solo, and 320 again by the last 16 of the head out.
liveintheglory 2 years ago
Nice and slow.
BAJJMiller 2 years ago 113
@BAJJMiller
LMAO!
glimb393 1 year ago
@BAJJMiller Fast is not the goal. Being in the pocket is.
Augustinemelecio 5 months ago
@Augustinemelecio Wynton is both! lol
paulcakebreadable 4 months ago
@Augustinemelecio not understanding is you
gleekflaglue6345789 3 months ago in playlist Jazz
great observation, man
thanks for the input
DustinGuitar 2 years ago
One of the best compositions of Donna Lee yet. Wynton is a god!
runeskyler 2 years ago
Ive heard more compelling renditions at slower tempos
adawg1789 2 years ago 3
Like Bill Charlap's
HendrixcommaMartin 2 years ago
This is were classical trumpet comes into play.
Jazzfreak251 2 years ago
I think people should stop giving so much credits to ''classical trumpet technique'' ... In my opinion, it's only trumpet technique... a player could never play classic in all his life but play as well as wynton marsalis... and since hes playing jazz right now, i would say he has a amazing a monstruous trumpet technique... and not ''classical''... but thats only my opinion. Anyways, i think we can both aprove that hes a genius anyway :) (sorry for my english, frenchie here :P )
cormier0007 2 years ago 6
Brownie did it first, Wynton put his spin on it. Learn something......move on.....Damn.. this is one of the fastest tempos on this composition I have heard.
martinplayer4u 2 years ago
Check out Stefano di Battista's cut too. It's sick. I'd estimate it around 370 bpm.
mwljazzguitar 2 years ago
that album is awesome,love the version of NiT aswell
LukieWukie 2 years ago
You may want to check Arturo Sandoval too.
stillavril 2 years ago
damn, this is the fastest one.
mrbird00 2 years ago
Amazing. Constant idiocy at such a high level takes subhuman thought(and speech)patterns.
it takes more practice at this tempo to be efficient than it does to become a commercial airline pilot. why dont all you uberinspectors just shut up, and listen to the fucking music instead of trying to put it to words. you cant put music into words....its music...you dumb asshole.
zxcvmook 3 years ago 6
u CAN put music in rythmn (words).......
kevinherbert 2 years ago
Amazing. Constant invention at such a high tempo takes immense mental (and physical) stamina.
bobilleg74 3 years ago 4
Nobody has mentioned it but Donna Lee is based on the wonderful chord sequence of "Back home in Indiana"
jazzbo123 3 years ago 8
i have a live bird album with chet baker and bird heavily quotes 'donna lee' while playing indiana, it's great
Ianmc26 3 years ago
i think they are the same changes, not sure but i think so.
jazzernamedworm 2 years ago
Yeah, good stuff, this. Still prefer Clifford's style to Wynton's, but this particular recording is in my top 50 songs for sure. I like how the sax/drums trade 8's, then 4's, then 2's, then 1's.
Also, I think this is the fastest recording of Donna Lee I have. If anyone has anything faster...Please contact me!!! I must have it!!
MacAddict107 3 years ago
Check out Joe Pass doing this tune on youtube. It might be a little faster, I'm not quite sure.
HendrixcommaMartin 3 years ago
Hey MacAddict, I dunno if you've heard the Tito Puente version of this song but I'm pretty sure its faster.
Balz2thewall 3 years ago
i love Cliffords' and Lee Morgans' over Wynton but the dude is 'up' there with the best that's 4 sure!
PAF149 2 years ago
I saw Wynton and his horn quartet play Donna Lee at Gilly's in Dayton, Ohio back in the early nineties. They literally blew me away!
After the concert, I invited them via by Limo over to the Nite Owl Club down the street for an unforgettable evening Jam session with my band The Dean Simms Quintet.
They held back nothing! Talking about "Raising the roof" for 3 more hours.
This is a gift I will always cherish. Ultimate Class and gracious they are.
deanasimms 3 years ago 2
Oh my goodness! That was incredible! I'm so glad I was able to meet a musician of this level. The solo... the trading fours. Wynton had a little of every great trumpet player going into those choruses. Thank you koolpaw for this post!
BRazor78 3 years ago