Yes. WTCC drivers are all retarded hahaha. Oschersleben was built in 1997, and the first corner was originally a round shape. Modified in recent years, and the cause of MANY incidents. So yes, it is poor circuit design. If anyone happens to see oschersleben or drive around it, youll see how the first corner no longer fits into the overall Circuit design. The change was made for "Retards" like you to enjoy motor racing a bit more lol
looking for the white bmw? DO THEY HEAR THEMSELVES? all i see is white bmws. wats the difference? o wait theres some blue and red ones. where does the white bmw come in to play? lol
there's nothing wrong with the corner. Unless a corner drives you off a cliff there's no excuse for crashing into someone like the race ends in turn 1
It's the way the corner is, only 1 car can go through at a time. It's not like the cars didn't brake enough they just didnt fit all together so they went wide instead of basing into the cars
I have to agree with the statements defending the corner and the designer thereof. Drivers are supposed to be challenged and to figure out how to enter, drive through, and exit corners of all varieties without wrecking.
it's racing what do you expect easy race track easy corners go away racing isn't racing with difficult corners like this one and the first chicane on monza
that corner is kinda crap, but it's NEVER the corners fault. How could it be? the corner didn't drive like a retard.. looking at this is like spectating an online race in a video game.. kids without any understanding of consequenses..
@bb3xhrhj He isn't saying it's the CORNER's fault, it's whoever designed the track. Touring car driving is incredibly tight and aggressive, especially in the first few corners. Having an opening corner as tiny as that is a disaster waiting to happen. But at the same time, yes, the drivers should also have been taking this into account - in this case it looks like one guy made a mistake and it spiraled out of control due to the sheer lack of breathing room.
@bb3xhrhj To who are you replying? The guy who said this corner is retarded/crappy and said the guy who designed it should be beaten, was the anouncer Not some kids..
@bb3xhrhj thats right, the corner is there an there as it is, its up to the drivers to get it right and althoug the corner might look ridiculous its still up to the drivers to get round without incident.
This has nothing to do with a poorly designed track. It has to do with all 30 drivers trying to get the lead in the first corner and that just doesnt work.
No such thing as a poorly designed corner, just poor drivers! If you made every corner on a track a "poorly designed corner" then you would have a very exciting race and the best drivers would shine every time!!!
Another thing I noticed watching this video. Like I mentioned, that corner, at least for the start of races, is not meant for bigger, bulkier cars. But it looks like there is a corner that could of been utilized that wouldn't involve as sharp a corner, and have as many cars get taken out in one shot. The person who didn't think of that SHOULD be taken into a dark room and beaten.
Its not a bad corner, but at the start of a race, its impossible! Its way to narrow and sharp for that amount of cars to drive through single or double file.
this track is "Oschersleben" and if you watch a DTM race you will see how to drive this corner with a touring car - not 5 cars besides each other ! this is a clear fail of the drivers !
@BremerSohn Its just the way Touring Car drivers drive, its always door-to-door, all the time. This is just one of those tracks which that racing style falls apart on.
@ZyberWaX If your designing a race track and can do whatever you want, at least allow for that thing that makes motorsport so great..... overtaking. THe chicane bollocks it all up.
Why dont they use the far smoother and faster kink seen to the inside of the track, or just extent the straight by removing the corner all together. Both are clearly possible, as the track is inplace for it, as the video shows.
the designer of the curve is fine. whoever thought itd be a good idea to allow 100 cars into a track with this corner should be taken to a room a beaten
The drivers who think they can go into a corner like that 5 wide and still go as fast as normal should be taken into a dark room and beaten. It's the first lap of a long race, show some fucking patience...
Car high,Car Low UHHHHH hold on tight
FishingTennessee 19 hours ago
This isn't racing. This is bumper cars.
StarbaseSierra1754 1 day ago
Yes. WTCC drivers are all retarded hahaha. Oschersleben was built in 1997, and the first corner was originally a round shape. Modified in recent years, and the cause of MANY incidents. So yes, it is poor circuit design. If anyone happens to see oschersleben or drive around it, youll see how the first corner no longer fits into the overall Circuit design. The change was made for "Retards" like you to enjoy motor racing a bit more lol
ckb87 4 days ago
Best first corner ever
supersports90 5 days ago
to reference a very true comment i saw on this
GRAN TURISMO 5 ONLINE ....FIRST CORNER ON ANY TRACK....ALL THE TIME...ANYTIME...THIS HAPPENS
zazzko5 5 days ago
that guy in front must be the one who designed that corner
vontristan19 6 days ago 5
1st lap let alone 1st corner never wins a race but will certainly lose a race. These are idiotic drivers that cant do a difficult turn.
Jaymobe07 6 days ago
looking for the white bmw? DO THEY HEAR THEMSELVES? all i see is white bmws. wats the difference? o wait theres some blue and red ones. where does the white bmw come in to play? lol
nascarchevytoyota 1 week ago
its the corner fault? maybe. i think its not wide enough. but the first chichane of the monza is much much tighter than this. then its the driver
radityainderas 1 week ago
A chicane as T1, yeah, THAT'S gonna work well....
0GKA0 1 week ago
this is like every corner in GT5 online
khkenni 1 week ago 4
lol 4 wide what u expect?
Jeeve79 1 week ago
Sounded like an angry Craig Ferguson
NCSportsMan70 1 week ago
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Slotten68 1 week ago
there's nothing wrong with the corner. Unless a corner drives you off a cliff there's no excuse for crashing into someone like the race ends in turn 1
tderias 1 week ago
Is the first curve of Orchesleben redone with that stupid chicane
IlConteSky96 1 week ago
It's the way the corner is, only 1 car can go through at a time. It's not like the cars didn't brake enough they just didnt fit all together so they went wide instead of basing into the cars
MrEDDFire 1 week ago
Every online race in GT5
kinothestarchild 1 week ago
@kinothestarchild ya thats for sure
PatRyanFTW 1 week ago
That is literally a 90 degree corner. Wow
lugeeman 1 week ago
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kyle busch started it.
baxterispro 1 week ago
That sounds like it is John Clelland.
sparkygl0s 1 week ago
@sparkygl0s
I believe it is indeed John Cleland!
happyontheroad 1 week ago
"erm which one of these is the brakes?"
megaspeed2 1 week ago
Just like Forza 4.
Dallas7995 1 week ago
lol love the accent
Redmilitiageneral 1 week ago
LeBrons Fault
rudylexi8 1 week ago
Look at the guy in first place
LIKE A BOSS
Keidoupe 1 week ago
I'm presuming the person who designed it was inspired by Charles Darwin.
"THIS CORNER WILL DECIDE WHO IS THE FITTEST TO SURVIVE" *evil laughs*
IndependenceHD 1 week ago
I have to agree with the statements defending the corner and the designer thereof. Drivers are supposed to be challenged and to figure out how to enter, drive through, and exit corners of all varieties without wrecking.
IceManPJN 1 week ago
Em....atari sign. when you see that you know your in a foreign country.
YoJamesProductions 1 week ago
not the designers fault, that one guy drive like a retard.
degafreak98 2 weeks ago
your mothers fault
quiquegines 2 weeks ago
It may have not happen if they wasn't 9 deep!!
ecbadboy101 2 weeks ago
Remove the Tyres and the corner would be fine.
UpYoUrBeAvEr 2 weeks ago
The tyre wall placement seems pretty crazy, forces cars going wide to avoid the carnage to turn straight back into them.
pilotmonkey 2 weeks ago
O_O
jrmiledriver88 2 weeks ago
Its a technical corner so the drivers would go slow and apply the ultra pro turning skillz. But these drivers dont have those skeelz.
MeNoGud 2 weeks ago
the corner reminds me of the the first corner in montreal at the circuit gilles vollenueve
YUBU8 2 weeks ago
lmao this is so funny
Silverbullet1222 2 weeks ago
the corner is normal, the drivers were driving likes retards, and that... wall... why is that there? waste of money putting that up
NYYforce20 2 weeks ago
lol
xxBorn2RaceX 2 weeks ago
well, if there are 5 cars side by side at a corner, that must be happen!
arsenalgunners160391 2 weeks ago
its not the corner, its the barrier. who the fuck put that barrier there?
OdrikT800 2 weeks ago
More like those people should learn how to use their brakes
TJ27SFMM 2 weeks ago
i bet the guy who made this corner is ginger thats why its a bad corner
brittishassassin247 3 weeks ago
@brittishassassin247 or was it a blonde woman O.o
NYYforce20 2 weeks ago
The guy who made the turn shouldn't be beaten in a dark room, the drivers should for going 4-5 wide into the turn
MetallicA94GordoN 3 weeks ago 2
the guys accsent made what he said funnier, its the designers fault sorry, they cant all instantly be in a single file line going into the turn
corvetteusa01 3 weeks ago 6
@corvetteusa01 Yea but they shouldnt be 4 wide either. 2 wide can do it. This is idiotic drivers
Jaymobe07 6 days ago
This is how you design corners. With a little difficulty
Tidermans 3 weeks ago
how is it the designers fault they went in 4 and 5 wide
baza05 3 weeks ago
"Alonsomania Cap"? I wonder if Alonso was there somewhere watching and thought: "This is ridiculous!"
tinyproblem 3 weeks ago
best title on youtube
TheGuyWhoLikesF1 3 weeks ago
holly shit I cant stop laughing at the comment the guy says XDDD
DjSpExZoNe 3 weeks ago
thats the longest title i ever seen lol
TheBloodsunday 3 weeks ago
it's racing what do you expect easy race track easy corners go away racing isn't racing with difficult corners like this one and the first chicane on monza
Ron12111995 3 weeks ago
@Ron12111995 monza is one big chicane...they should race back in the 60's layout
MAVS1788 2 weeks ago
its a standard corner, the comentater should be beaten.
tiny831000 3 weeks ago
This I why I like formula car races more than touring car races. Touring car racing is more or less martial arts.
TheColinChapman 3 weeks ago
Reminds me of playing GRID online, you fade to the back and there is like a 9 car wreck in turn 1 and you just drive by
acenace24 3 weeks ago
haha looks like the beginning of an online race on gran turismo
jellyzRL 4 weeks ago
that corner is kinda crap, but it's NEVER the corners fault. How could it be? the corner didn't drive like a retard.. looking at this is like spectating an online race in a video game.. kids without any understanding of consequenses..
bb3xhrhj 4 weeks ago 55
@bb3xhrhj He isn't saying it's the CORNER's fault, it's whoever designed the track. Touring car driving is incredibly tight and aggressive, especially in the first few corners. Having an opening corner as tiny as that is a disaster waiting to happen. But at the same time, yes, the drivers should also have been taking this into account - in this case it looks like one guy made a mistake and it spiraled out of control due to the sheer lack of breathing room.
alphaprawns 4 weeks ago
@bb3xhrhj My thoughts exactly! That corner looked poorly designed, but it's not like the driver don't know it's there!
ptroinks 2 weeks ago
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@bb3xhrhj To who are you replying? The guy who said this corner is retarded/crappy and said the guy who designed it should be beaten, was the anouncer Not some kids..
JSHuiting 2 weeks ago
@bb3xhrhj thats right, the corner is there an there as it is, its up to the drivers to get it right and althoug the corner might look ridiculous its still up to the drivers to get round without incident.
kremmen64 2 weeks ago
@bb3xhrhj the corner dident make them try to pass eacherother.... that was there call....
pieman5ooo 1 week ago
This corner is a bitch. Watched the 2011 DTM and WTCC race here and trying to slow down enough to make the corner in the rain is a near-impossibility
K9RacingAndStuff 1 month ago
The first place guy got thru there no problem..
MidniteHaze1 1 month ago 2
that is oschersleben and the first corner really sucks
JOE87NEMECHEK 1 month ago
cant go 5 6 wide over there lol its not the track
HilaryHaylieRocks08 1 month ago
Thats way to sharp of a turn.
rjl1184 1 month ago
"I think the sc is comin out... there is cars everywhere..."
DUDE it s a fucking raceway... of COURSE there are cars :D :D
gamber22 1 month ago
I THOUGHT THE TITLE SHE SHOULD BE EATEN
ohbobsaget22 1 month ago
the first corner disign is great the first 6-7 rows drivers should be taken into a dark room and be beaten.
shadowspeedyV1 1 month ago
Track Designer : Trollface.jpg
TWATFACE118 1 month ago
That's funny that you blame the designer when it is the drivers fault for driving like shit. Start the flood.
gitrdonedavid 1 month ago
Why beaten? This is fun!
bravo3000pirate 1 month ago
Herman Tilke designed this
xRapidClaWx 1 month ago
@xRapidClaWx Herman Tilke should be taken into a room and beaten anyway, at least this gives us a reasonable excuse.
iamthestigsixsixsix 1 month ago
Hamiltons fault!
MsFormule1 1 month ago 101
@MsFormule1 DRIVE THROUGH NOW!
980696 1 month ago
@MsFormule1 fuck off with coments like that
zacboom2001 2 weeks ago
@zacboom2001 blablabla Why complain about this comment?
MsFormule1 2 weeks ago
This has nothing to do with a poorly designed track. It has to do with all 30 drivers trying to get the lead in the first corner and that just doesnt work.
kartman1751 1 month ago
No such thing as a poorly designed corner, just poor drivers! If you made every corner on a track a "poorly designed corner" then you would have a very exciting race and the best drivers would shine every time!!!
MrSymon68 1 month ago
No wonder in the player starts at last position in Gran Turismo. The designers knew what was coming
SuperUltiMatt 1 month ago
Oschersleben obviously!
StefanTetteroo 1 month ago
Sounds like Frankie Boyle :L
TheStig3566 1 month ago
i like how in the beginnig the commentator says look at the white bmw. re watch to see what im talking about.
goalieboy1000 1 month ago
oschersleben?
bavarianbass 1 month ago
@bavarianbass Yep, looks like it.
mlawitschka 1 month ago
lol ive done that so many times in grand turismo XD
automotiveDIY 1 month ago
wtf.. did they not friggin practice?
TDistributors 1 month ago
All I can say is...thank god Aussie tracks arent made like that (:
erodommocnedloh 1 month ago
that's how it need's to be like the old time's of WTCC
MrBullworth 1 month ago
lol that corner is what they call "qualifying" in europe...
dannyboyinxs 1 month ago
Now that's a race
BMXUnitedRN2 1 month ago
@BMXUnitedRN2 no thats wreck
99boyz 1 month ago
but then again, we did invite touring car drivers...
dkhaha 1 month ago
The corner is ok!WTCC drivers are really agressive though!
uessaloniki 1 month ago
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lol like every online race in a racing game :-)
AlexZAfRo 1 month ago
that one guy who actually made the corner from pole must've gotten about a 15 second lead lol
TheEljay 1 month ago
heyhey oschersleben in germany
Hondissimo 1 month ago
i just noticed the announcer guy said that lmao
burjkhalifa98 1 month ago
Another thing I noticed watching this video. Like I mentioned, that corner, at least for the start of races, is not meant for bigger, bulkier cars. But it looks like there is a corner that could of been utilized that wouldn't involve as sharp a corner, and have as many cars get taken out in one shot. The person who didn't think of that SHOULD be taken into a dark room and beaten.
PYLrulz1984 1 month ago
lol i didnt think the announcer would actually say it
GeneralFantastic 1 month ago
ha reminds me of a start of a race on gran turismo
bmxrocketman 1 month ago
no give the guy a fucking medal
TheNewLewisHamilton2 1 month ago
this is just like the montreal road course, its the first turn but they didnt have any walls
FlexaySexay 1 month ago
Your asking for it when you go into a corner like that 4 wide.... has nothing to do with the track and everything to do with the drivers.
Neferdias 1 month ago
Its not a bad corner, but at the start of a race, its impossible! Its way to narrow and sharp for that amount of cars to drive through single or double file.
DJxBash 1 month ago
this track is "Oschersleben" and if you watch a DTM race you will see how to drive this corner with a touring car - not 5 cars besides each other ! this is a clear fail of the drivers !
BremerSohn 1 month ago 27
@BremerSohn Its just the way Touring Car drivers drive, its always door-to-door, all the time. This is just one of those tracks which that racing style falls apart on.
alphaprawns 1 month ago
"The guy who designed that corner should be taken into a dark room and be-"
you heard him fellas.
sddragon28 1 month ago
LOL, foreign announcers, gotta love them :P
megavolt2000 1 month ago
well I never knew frankie boyle started out his career in touring car commentary...
Jimskateuk 1 month ago
that has to be the most expensive corner ever haha
fryskate 1 month ago
Makes sense the guy who said it is Irish/Scottish
TheMetalzX 1 month ago
I didn't realize that Polyphony Digital had started designing first corners in real life as well.
BurnoutLegend101 2 months ago 4
@BurnoutLegend101 Massive LOL XD, What tracks you refering to specifically? ;D
alexcoates11 1 month ago
@alexcoates11 It has to be Madrid hasn't it. 150+ mph straight followed by a tight high speed chicane and a hairpin. What were they thinking?
BurnoutLegend101 1 month ago
@BurnoutLegend101 Oschersleben Germany ;)
CharmytheBear 1 month ago
@BurnoutLegend101 Did you expect them to make a track to gradually slow them down? its a race track not a highway :)
ZyberWaX 1 month ago
@ZyberWaX If your designing a race track and can do whatever you want, at least allow for that thing that makes motorsport so great..... overtaking. THe chicane bollocks it all up.
BurnoutLegend101 1 month ago
@BurnoutLegend101 i dont belive overtaking should be possible everywhere
ZyberWaX 1 month ago
:D that was like Race 07 with Amateurs :D
Oschersleben (ger) is a great track but it is very small... ;)
mauriziklo 2 months ago
take any racing game put at least 20 players in any track, you'll get the same thing
enverelkeda 2 months ago
Maybe the jackasses who wanted to go 5 wide into the first corner be taken into a dark room and beaten.
MurphyMonster 2 months ago
That's scottish humour for you folks!
shintyfan 2 months ago
i thought that shit only happens on GRID...
kayu38 2 months ago
John Cleland YOU ABSOLUTE LEGEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tonykartjimi 2 months ago
Why dont they use the far smoother and faster kink seen to the inside of the track, or just extent the straight by removing the corner all together. Both are clearly possible, as the track is inplace for it, as the video shows.
MetaKnightsKirby 2 months ago
@MetaKnightsKirby I guess they were trying to increase the size of the braking zone to increase overtaking. But I agree of Cleland!
toodsf1 2 months ago
Gran Turismo 5 online, Nurburgring, first corner, every... fucking... time.
iCHARRLZ 2 months ago 78
@iCHARRLZ OMG Gran Turismo aswell???? SAME GOD DAMN THING happens on Forza 4 too
DeathCoreGamer 2 months ago
@iCHARRLZ wats your id brother ???
xxgashinho17xx 1 month ago
@xxgashinho17xx
iCHARRLZ
iCHARRLZ 1 month ago
@iCHARRLZ Don't forget monza, Le mans, suzuka, tokyo 246 and spa
AJHG1000 1 month ago
@iCHARRLZ Also Forza 4, although you usually have a few cars going mach 10 into there too, ruining everyone's day.
iamthestigsixsixsix 1 month ago
@iCHARRLZ any online race sim, monza, every..fucking...time
mailmeonline 1 month ago
DID ANYONE CALL ME? I WAS THE DESIGNER
teamcaution10 2 months ago 49
@teamcaution10
Were you taken in a dark room and beaten?
acenace24 1 month ago
@acenace24 barely haha
teamcaution10 1 month ago
Lol it would be a scottish commentator!
MM6Logan 2 months ago
Oh here is an idea if it is a shit first corner. Run the race the other way around!
kiwiboy1 2 months ago
Has to be a scotsman to say that on air, haha.
I'm not scottish, i just watched a lot of franky boyle videos. hes my man-crush
WindmillStalker 2 months ago
That crazy,how can too many car get enough space to turn in these fuck Bay-bit.
admin9707 2 months ago
WAAAAAAAAAY too many cars.
mclarenguy22 2 months ago
That's the World touring Car Championship.
mclarenguy22 2 months ago
John Cleland lol
TGTAP 2 months ago
The front guy takes it like a pro
WileyKing 2 months ago
Everything logical goes out of the window when the red lights go out.
LiamStroudy09 2 months ago
Where is this track? :O
alexcoates11 2 months ago
@alexcoates11 oschersleben germany
xSEBi92 2 months ago
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LewisPearceYaussy 2 months ago
Accoring to wiki, that first corner fails the FIA first corner specifications... maybe they ill fix it. :D
Arnechk 2 months ago
the designer of the curve is fine. whoever thought itd be a good idea to allow 100 cars into a track with this corner should be taken to a room a beaten
areufkingkiddingme 2 months ago
yeah, the designer of the curve should be taken into a dark room with these drivers of shit
Fuckdencio 2 months ago
@Fuckdencio Yes ofcourse, Mr. Schumacher.
Arnechk 2 months ago
The drivers who think they can go into a corner like that 5 wide and still go as fast as normal should be taken into a dark room and beaten. It's the first lap of a long race, show some fucking patience...
childsca 2 months ago
@childsca obviously you dont fully understand the concept of racing....
yuri250333 2 months ago
John Cleland is awesome, never shy with his words
JRGJackGorman 2 months ago
Screwed up corner
thalapthu 2 months ago
What track is this
stee504 2 months ago
@stee504 oschersleben
Racing15528 2 months ago
there's nothing wrong with the corner, the drivers just want to much
BveryMean 2 months ago
The guy how designed this corner should be given a medal.
BigBadBadger1 2 months ago
LoL at the BMW on the left side at 0:13. "Screw you guys, I'm going round this shitting corner." XD
Str4t0sPh3rE 2 months ago 23
@Str4t0sPh3rE Lmao yeah
HilaryHaylieRocks08 1 month ago
hahahahah
PoWeReD00By00HoNdA 2 months ago
Aren't corners designed to be challenging?
Tim2704 2 months ago 3
haha
2PacThaKing1998 2 months ago
I like him
DVDFerrari5 2 months ago
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