@book630book My friend never judge a book by it's cover. I spent 6 months living of the land in the dead of winter in the northern Rockies of montana in the late 80's. I KNOW were of I speak. You doubt that, then go into mountain country and build a survival shelter , and lay on top of the snow.Then see how long it is before you loose your body heat by direct contact with the snow, that has now melted enough under you to get you damp. See how long it takes for hypothermia to set in.
Great video. Being in the wild with no tools at all, as it is -regretfully- realistic to be. A simple question: would not it be better to press the snow under your body before adding insulating material instead of removing it? Snow could insulate you from the frozen turf. I saw other videos showing one or both those techniques. Which one is safer?
@stidumaron: Personally beleive removing the snow from the turf is better and safer, because, even with grasses, your body will begin to heat the snow enough to cause both your bedding and yourself to become damp, which is very dangerous in cold weather, and it will also rob you and your bedding of heat through conduction. The ground however, will not melt, and once heated by your body will retain that heat as long as you are laying on it.. But experiment and decide which you feel better.
@branchingvine to comment on this. I recently had to use one of these to keep me alive in a survival situation. I had gotten wet during the day and failed at making a fire to dry my clothing. When i built my shelter i did not remove the snow, this caused me to lose a lot of body heat. Even with my sleeping bag and therma rest. When I was rescued, I noticed that instead of snow under me it was now ice. lost body heat to melt snow, as it got colder i lost more to ice.
@ATXwingkid yep...because you were wet...always dangerous in cold weather. I'm glad your okay. In spite of your bad condition...without the shelter you most likely would have died of exposure. When you're wet especially in winter conditions you lose body heat fast through conduction. But I'm glad you survived...you are truly a survivalist now! And again the situation you described is exactly why I recommend removing the snow where you build your shelter, all the way to the ground.
@stidumaron The risk of leaving snow under you is that if it starts to melt, you can get wet and you have no place to go. The snow will help insulate at first, but because you body is directly on top of it with just a small amount of insulation, it will start to melt and seep up through your insulation, clothing, and ultimately make you much colder than if you had removed it.
See that the conversation is getting harsh somewhere else. what a pity. but your words make sense. I mean: if you have a tarp or some waterproof plastic sheet or some logs to put under your body, well maybe you'd better keep the snow. but if you lay directly on the snow, your body heat is surely going to melt it with all the inconveniences you said. thanks for your answer.
Building it around a large tree or near natural wqind breaks wold be best but if that is not possible the shelter will still provide reasonable protection in the open as well. But again constructing it around natural wind breaks is a very good idea when possible.
@PKVideosNZ The snow won't melt completely, but the surface inside can become wet and drip. If possible, put on a layer of spruce boughs or other plant material before the snow.
@Kuploosh Agreed, which is one thing I should have done in this video. Unfortunately the goal was to make a very quick shelter to get a person through the night, who, because of weather conditions does not have time to do everything that will bring comforyt...just enough time to make a very make-shift survival shelter. But thanks for bringing that out it is a very good piece of advice to add!
yah...your right on the cotton thing...but sometimes I forget to mention things like that so thanks for stating it. Wool is much better and will actually hwelp repel water away from your body should it get wet! Thanks for the sound survival tip!
Plus when it gets wet it doesn't take away from your body heat, it dries itself. Do you know how to make a snow shelter, if not I'll try to make a video, because those are pretty cool too.
I know how to make a Quinnzie and a Snow cave as well...unfortunately I don't currently live in an area that gets much snow that stays around and I haven't had time to get to the mountains and make a video. If you made one that would be great, then I'll favorite it and put it into a play list...that is...if you wouldn't mind. God Bless!
That will definitely save your bacon. My senior drill sergeant one time told us a story about being stranded in a snow storm when out trapping. He said he built an improvised shelter under the boughs of a large pine tree, used snow for the walls, and ended up having to eat his bait before conditions changed so he could walk out.
Hey man that was really well done i like how you did it all on cam for the most part very helpful i subbed.
jake4569 1 month ago
Pretty realistic stuff. Probably best to put the insulation on the deck AFTER building the shelter to avoid dropping snow on it.
VeterusTV 8 months ago
@VeterusTV point well taken...thanks :)
branchingvine 8 months ago
DO NOT REMOVE THE SNOW, INFACT ADD MORE BECAUSE SNOW HELPS KEEP YOUR BODY HEAT!!!!!!!!! THIS GUY IS RETARDED
book630book 1 year ago
@book630book My friend never judge a book by it's cover. I spent 6 months living of the land in the dead of winter in the northern Rockies of montana in the late 80's. I KNOW were of I speak. You doubt that, then go into mountain country and build a survival shelter , and lay on top of the snow.Then see how long it is before you loose your body heat by direct contact with the snow, that has now melted enough under you to get you damp. See how long it takes for hypothermia to set in.
branchingvine 1 year ago 7
I like it but you should bring thermometer in the hut with you, show us how high the temperature gets after an hour or so.
johnmusk 1 year ago
Great video. Being in the wild with no tools at all, as it is -regretfully- realistic to be. A simple question: would not it be better to press the snow under your body before adding insulating material instead of removing it? Snow could insulate you from the frozen turf. I saw other videos showing one or both those techniques. Which one is safer?
stidumaron 1 year ago
@stidumaron: Personally beleive removing the snow from the turf is better and safer, because, even with grasses, your body will begin to heat the snow enough to cause both your bedding and yourself to become damp, which is very dangerous in cold weather, and it will also rob you and your bedding of heat through conduction. The ground however, will not melt, and once heated by your body will retain that heat as long as you are laying on it.. But experiment and decide which you feel better.
branchingvine 1 year ago
@branchingvine to comment on this. I recently had to use one of these to keep me alive in a survival situation. I had gotten wet during the day and failed at making a fire to dry my clothing. When i built my shelter i did not remove the snow, this caused me to lose a lot of body heat. Even with my sleeping bag and therma rest. When I was rescued, I noticed that instead of snow under me it was now ice. lost body heat to melt snow, as it got colder i lost more to ice.
ATXwingkid 1 year ago
@ATXwingkid yep...because you were wet...always dangerous in cold weather. I'm glad your okay. In spite of your bad condition...without the shelter you most likely would have died of exposure. When you're wet especially in winter conditions you lose body heat fast through conduction. But I'm glad you survived...you are truly a survivalist now! And again the situation you described is exactly why I recommend removing the snow where you build your shelter, all the way to the ground.
branchingvine 1 year ago
@stidumaron The risk of leaving snow under you is that if it starts to melt, you can get wet and you have no place to go. The snow will help insulate at first, but because you body is directly on top of it with just a small amount of insulation, it will start to melt and seep up through your insulation, clothing, and ultimately make you much colder than if you had removed it.
Kuploosh 1 year ago
@Kuploosh
See that the conversation is getting harsh somewhere else. what a pity. but your words make sense. I mean: if you have a tarp or some waterproof plastic sheet or some logs to put under your body, well maybe you'd better keep the snow. but if you lay directly on the snow, your body heat is surely going to melt it with all the inconveniences you said. thanks for your answer.
stidumaron 1 year ago
@stidumaron Well put. I agree if you have logs definitely keep the snow.
Kuploosh 1 year ago
Great info. I appreciate you doing this for us.
Rush6477 1 year ago
Will the snow inside the shelter melt?
PKVideosNZ 2 years ago
Actually no because it holds your heat within but stays cool by conduction of the cold outside. It won't melt until the temperature rises outside.
branchingvine 2 years ago
That makes sense.
Would you normally construct it out in the open or would you build a shelter like this near a large tree?
PKVideosNZ 2 years ago
Building it around a large tree or near natural wqind breaks wold be best but if that is not possible the shelter will still provide reasonable protection in the open as well. But again constructing it around natural wind breaks is a very good idea when possible.
branchingvine 2 years ago
@PKVideosNZ The snow won't melt completely, but the surface inside can become wet and drip. If possible, put on a layer of spruce boughs or other plant material before the snow.
Kuploosh 1 year ago
@Kuploosh Agreed, which is one thing I should have done in this video. Unfortunately the goal was to make a very quick shelter to get a person through the night, who, because of weather conditions does not have time to do everything that will bring comforyt...just enough time to make a very make-shift survival shelter. But thanks for bringing that out it is a very good piece of advice to add!
branchingvine 1 year ago
Great video, but I believe that the whole theory behind the layer system was a little off. And best tip for winter survival, never wear cotton.
josepy021987 2 years ago
yah...your right on the cotton thing...but sometimes I forget to mention things like that so thanks for stating it. Wool is much better and will actually hwelp repel water away from your body should it get wet! Thanks for the sound survival tip!
branchingvine 2 years ago
Plus when it gets wet it doesn't take away from your body heat, it dries itself. Do you know how to make a snow shelter, if not I'll try to make a video, because those are pretty cool too.
josepy021987 2 years ago
I know how to make a Quinnzie and a Snow cave as well...unfortunately I don't currently live in an area that gets much snow that stays around and I haven't had time to get to the mountains and make a video. If you made one that would be great, then I'll favorite it and put it into a play list...that is...if you wouldn't mind. God Bless!
branchingvine 2 years ago
glad u reloaded this video its a good one
gweems828 2 years ago
That will definitely save your bacon. My senior drill sergeant one time told us a story about being stranded in a snow storm when out trapping. He said he built an improvised shelter under the boughs of a large pine tree, used snow for the walls, and ended up having to eat his bait before conditions changed so he could walk out.
RodneyAHampton 2 years ago
Know how he feels...I've been in similar situations in Montana years ago! LOL
branchingvine 2 years ago