I wish Ayra were in Brawl. She would be a top tier character, and she could possibly the most awesome character in Super Smash Bros. Marth won this battle, and if Ayra were to face Luigi, she would make quick work out of him. Marth has did a great job in the Super Smash Bros. series.
Luigi used to be my favorite Nintendo character. When Melee arrived, Marth overtook Luigi as my favorite character. One year later, I discovered Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu, and since 2004, Ayra from that game is my new favorite Nintendo character.
fact of the matter is, both marth and luigi are high tier characters. only difference is the fact that luigi is much harder to use, and marth is much more noob friendly. Ultimately, Luigi is the better character, but fanboys will continue to suck Marth's cheap cock mercilessly, as he is the only character that their retardedness will allow their skills to blossom
I've seen one tournament won with Marth. Meanwhile, Snakes are dominating. Any proof to your belief? Let's see some videos before you call people "losers."
I'd say luigi is more of a fag, but whatever. I still use both. It's definitely easier to be a cheap asshole with Marth though. "Top-queer" ain't a bad title for him. As others have said, I don't find this Marth that impressive. I have a friend who mains Marth. He needs to enter more tournaments so more people will know and fear the name SKAT lol
Dude marth is pretty much broken in tournies, he doesnt even qualify as top tier. Doesn't mean he does really well cuz that depends on the person. But ice, snake, meta, and falcos are pretty much domination in brawl for now.
Most "pro" marths ive seen do not spam up B...however it seems to work for DC...and morb has one of the best luigis ive seen since SBBM....my mains Ike/Jig
so if they left in wavedashing and the sorts...what would be the difference between brawl and melee? instead of complaining, learn how to make luigi even better expecting this game to be EXACTLY like melee. thats what i plan to do.
Otherwise, i want my money back on what i reserved, cause i'd just play it lol instead of waiting forever
Why do all of these utter noobs think this is melee? Its not! Face the facts! Sakurai has presented a much better game so dont complain that its not the same as 2 yrs. ago and its better.
Heck, go play melee right now if thats what u want so bad
As I stated earlier in MORB's previous vids, he needs to learn what air moves to do at the right time.
I saw him doing foward A, when it needed to be a Up A, or sometimes, he just needed to ignore attacking, and doge just to be safe, instead of missing, or getting hit first, since Marth's range is longer
the upB is better i think but i agree that using the downB when luigi was running towards him and stuff woulda worked nice, but u got to take into acount that smash isnt the type of game u sit there and think about...its the type u think about when u are training and hope that instinct kicks in when your fighting some1 else...idk how everone else plays, but when i fight its all just pure instinct on what button my fingers get to first. lol
but it DEPENDS on the situation is what im trying to get at. if they are low damage and u have the oppotunity, downB and u might can follow it up. but if they high damage. sidestep and upB and gg.
I think the new mechanics of the game nerfed him. Marth was helped tremendously in Melee by wavedashing and edgeguarding. Wavedashing is gone, and it appears that standing at the edge and forward smashing doesn't work well anymore.
Tournaments can't take all day; one long match means everyone else has to wait for them before starting the next round, which can throw scheduling off.
You know guys it's not Melee, it's a totally new game. Instead of complaining about the ways in how it's different Super Smash Brothers Melee like it being slower and no wavedashing etc, why not see it as a new set of challenges to overcome?
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because the truth is, brawl was actually supposed to be melee but with more items, stages, and characters. face the facts and stop defending something that was so clearly fudged.
Where was it specifically stated that this game (which was only released a week ago, in Japan, and not even in the west yet I might add) was "meant to be Melee but with more items, stages, and characters". No quasi quoting, I want you to link where it says this.
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you make a bad point pal. fans of melee expected it to be the same thing with more stuff. sakurai is stupid because he did not do this, despite what his most devout fans pleaded. im sorry to say that you will be pretty disappointed.
"fans of melee expected it to be the same thing with more stuff. sakurai is stupid because he did not do this, despite what his most devout fans pleaded. im sorry to say that you will be pretty disappointed."
No it is a fact. I don't know if you've ever heard of the nintendo Nsider forums. On the smash bros brawl. Everybody was hoping that melee's characters and system of fighting would not change. "if it's not broken, don't fix it" they would all say.
I see. Because people on an internet forum obviously represent the entire planet. That's an opinion. How do I know this? I'm a fan of Melee. But I don't want to play Melee 2.0... I want to play Brawl. You're just being arrogant, close-minded, and all around stubborn.
You're generalizing people pretty badly. And in case you haven't noticed. 1. NSider is dead. 2. Why, again, does an internet forum represent the entire population of Smash fans? Even so. You asked for more characters and you got it. What's the problem?
he ruined some of the characters and made them weaker or much stronger. take peach. she was my player. i watched a video where her throw was practically made useless. the guy had 150 damage and peaches throw would destroy andybody with that amount of health in melee. but in brawl it hardly sends em flying. link, already a high tier, was made a lot stronger. and pit, is wayy too good. crazy recovery, moderately powerful, and deals a lot of damage.
Link is bottom of low tier. Pit has his flaws as seen through the finals of this match, everyone's recovery can be used and taken advantage of and Peach's forward throw got Nerfed but a lot of her other attacks have gotten buffed. 1. This isn't melee this is brawl. 2. Making Link a lot stronger hasn't changed the game, he still has weaknesses that can be taken advantage of. 3. Pit is the new Fox if you want to consider tier lists but there are always counters.
OMG!? BRAWL ISN'T MELEE!? WHO'D OF THUNK IT?! What do you expect Sakurai to do? Say sorry for balancing out the characters? If Pit is hit in his Up B, guess what happens. He falls. The game has been out for a little over a week. I highly doubt we've learned all the strengths and weaknesses of the characters. You're just nit-picking and whining for the sake of it.
Are you kidding me? You've only had it for five days and are complaining about the characters? I supposed you've mastered all of them and have learned the ins and outs in the past five days. You also made a mistake when you were expecting to get Melee 1.5... This is Brawl. Not Melee. The changes are about as big as the changes from 64 to Melee. It only makes sense.
are you kidding me? The game hasn't even been released in the US or other regions besides Japan and you jump to the conclusion that Link is a high tier? It'll take people 6 months at the very least to make a tier list and the tier list would still be inaccurate. Stop being dumb...
Wave dashing was apart of the game... don't be mad because you can't do it. Now it's not in it, i guess if u get enough noobs to complain you get your way? Or maybe its because it aided other glitches in melee and they didn't want it to occur in brawl.
i saw plenty of ways Luigi could have won in this fight, he started to get more and more careless in the end so i guess he didnt deserve the win, and even tho anything goes in this game and you gotta do whatever you can to win, marth was massively cheap ith the up and move. He may have won but it was a very cheap win.
The wavedash is not a glitch. We just talked about this. Plus, your logic is very inconsistent. What constitutes "what they're really made of"? What should be banned because it's "cheap"? What does "cheap" even mean? If you're not allowed to wavedash, what else shouldn't we be allowed to do?
well i know its not really a glitch its more like just sliding across the floor because of the momentum that pushes you after applying a quick airdodge to the ground, i only call it a glitch because its kind of a habit for me. i dont think they intended the wavedash to be a real move.
Everyone i fought seems to abusive that damn Wavedash and it really doesnt even help thay much at all, i always just thought it was useless. my opionion is if you are a pro, fight with the moves that were intended to be used if your a pro.Most people who use it against me just looked like they ere sliding around the floor like a bunch of idiots and it starts to get annnyoing and obvious after a while, Next thing they kno they get knocked out by a Meteor Blast to the face.always loved doing that.
Well yes, wavedashing into a meteor is no different from rolling into a forward smash. A lot of people try to WD just for the sake of "doing something advanced" and get their asses kicked for running into attacks. Of course it won't look useful then.
Now if they could do it NATURALLY and use it when appropriate, it could give them a speedup and some extra mindgames. They'd have to learn to play smarter by paying attention, and they'll probably suck for awhile still before getting better.
Do I really need to talk about this again? When you wavedash, the physics works EXACTLY as it should. I guess the Reaver Drop and the horizontal shinespark are glitches, too.
*sigh* I get a thumbs-down even though I'm using logic.
Things can be removed and not be a glitch. An unpopular unit/character, a redundant, useless move, etc. You can't prove that they specifically removed the wavedash intentionally. The new air dodge makes WAY more sense for what it's actually supposed to be used for - dodging in the air. It's no longer a recovery move.
well im givig you a +1 Because your logic makes sense. Your right its not really proven that they removed it on purpose but its definitly gone.......Not that i care tho because i actually always hated the wavedash and never use it but i know how to do it.
I love when Marth gets that victory pose! I replace the Japanese words with "GTFO!" and with his hand movements it loves like he actually says that =)
Y move is called Luigis Cyclone. When its used if you repeatly press the b button you will fly upward. same thing can happen with mario's tornado which is very handy.
I don't get why so many people are stressing about the wavedashing. In the more intense tournies I've seen at least, Ken included, it was never an essential trick. Just more something nifty to have, but I've never seen any of the best players actually rely on it like it's game breaking.
Yea i never had to rely on the Wavedash to get plenty of kills i always used my skills and good move combos. There really is no need for the wavedash.
I'm not entirely sure on this one but, I've heard some people saying that it actually IS in brawl, it's just that you perform it in a completely different way. "in brawl to l cancel you have to fast fall before your aerial so he just short hoped, fast faell, Fair." That's what one guy said, I'm not sure if it's true though.
Damn man.. marth should of died so many times. I really don't like how they nerfed Luigi's Dair and Fair so much. Marth was like at 150 and he didnt die from the Dair move, jeeze. Its gonna take some time to get use to people like dieing in the 200%
Finally the marth is starting to abuse strategies. No one seems to be abusing marths side b though... Its pretty effective in this game IMO. So is the up B outta shield I guess.
Hahaha, the Marth had Luigi eating outta his palm after the ^B Barrage... Later in the match, you could see Luigi hesitating to stay out of the range of it but would get smacked by something else. The Marth player might not have had as much tech skill as the Luigi player, but he sure knew his opponent =)
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OMG Marth sucked. Up b spamming, and not even charging the dumb smashes. The only reason he won was because luigi sucked even worse.
VionaCA 3 years ago
Congrats on realizing that this was the FIRST EVER Brawl tourney in SoCal.
--GCII
getyourtournament 3 years ago
luigi better not be morbs main because he didn't even use him right at all
misterfantastic08 3 years ago
Holy shit, could DC dolphin slash any more than he did?
s1uff1sc001 3 years ago 2
QFT
Thesvend 3 years ago
yeah massive up b spam. Weird.
walterppk1989 3 years ago
Dude give me Wolf and ill beat any of u haha no doubt
Roguekid123 3 years ago
I wish Ayra were in Brawl. She would be a top tier character, and she could possibly the most awesome character in Super Smash Bros. Marth won this battle, and if Ayra were to face Luigi, she would make quick work out of him. Marth has did a great job in the Super Smash Bros. series.
TediusZanarukando 3 years ago
Luigi used to be my favorite Nintendo character. When Melee arrived, Marth overtook Luigi as my favorite character. One year later, I discovered Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu, and since 2004, Ayra from that game is my new favorite Nintendo character.
TediusZanarukando 3 years ago
fact of the matter is, both marth and luigi are high tier characters. only difference is the fact that luigi is much harder to use, and marth is much more noob friendly. Ultimately, Luigi is the better character, but fanboys will continue to suck Marth's cheap cock mercilessly, as he is the only character that their retardedness will allow their skills to blossom
LeprechaunDrunk 3 years ago
Marth is the best char in the fucking game you losers! that player was the noob with him...
Chrisevil 3 years ago
I've seen one tournament won with Marth. Meanwhile, Snakes are dominating. Any proof to your belief? Let's see some videos before you call people "losers."
--GCII
getyourtournament 3 years ago
Ugh, snakes are cheapies, and has the best defense imo against chain grabs lol..
a7xwii 3 years ago
I'd say luigi is more of a fag, but whatever. I still use both. It's definitely easier to be a cheap asshole with Marth though. "Top-queer" ain't a bad title for him. As others have said, I don't find this Marth that impressive. I have a friend who mains Marth. He needs to enter more tournaments so more people will know and fear the name SKAT lol
KnAuStE 3 years ago
Sheesh, why do people talk trash and think nobody's going to call them out.
Get your friend to go to a tournament instead of talking about it here.
--GCII
getyourtournament 3 years ago
Dude marth is pretty much broken in tournies, he doesnt even qualify as top tier. Doesn't mean he does really well cuz that depends on the person. But ice, snake, meta, and falcos are pretty much domination in brawl for now.
a7xwii 3 years ago
marth is a fAG and hes cheap ...
kingdomhearts5555 3 years ago
Most "pro" marths ive seen do not spam up B...however it seems to work for DC...and morb has one of the best luigis ive seen since SBBM....my mains Ike/Jig
cheerboy1225 3 years ago
marth is for noobs.
faggiest character in brawl.
Monkeypoo563 3 years ago
lame all he did was up b
k1ngD3 3 years ago
Marth is still gay.
warcraftsucks123 3 years ago
Indeed.
YungSunny 3 years ago
man sux that they had to battle morb and dc were my fav tournament contestants...
OmfgitzJonn 3 years ago
C'mon! that Marth was not impressive, I could've kicked his ass with Luigi!
JustGabe 3 years ago
i have a question. what is your main people? my main is marth.
btw the guy using marth spams Up+b. damn i felt like yelling USE ANOTHER TECHNIQUE!!!! lolz
masterjuan75 3 years ago
I want to play morb with my main also...luigi.
I think I can beat him now.
marioluigipeach3 3 years ago
If I saw correctly, Morb didn't even use smashes. Nice Luigi man! Too bad that Marth spammed Up-B most of the time.
aznanime8792 4 years ago
Yes he did. Around 2:30.
Shadowysights 3 years ago
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Too bad Marth is gay.
warcraftsucks123 4 years ago
actually, interesting that you would bring that up
marth isn't gay from what ive seen in his games
HOWEVER, ike is 100% gay, he sweet talks men in his game, and its subtle but you can tell hes gay, or at least bisexual
Nintemagic 4 years ago
At least Ike sounds cool. Marth and Roy just yell out insults in foreign languages so that their opponents are too confused to retort.
warcraftsucks123 4 years ago
too bad you're 5
suenoyl 4 years ago 5
Yeah, I actualy agree...if he wasnt a fairy, I'd use him more
superbad345 3 years ago
luigi could of one that easily, whoever's playing as him was being nice by teasing him with edgehogging and actually staying there.
theedwardian 4 years ago
yeah theres another vid with the same ppl playing with the same characters, lol luigi won that time
Nintemagic 4 years ago
Morb looked like he was pulling out all the stops but I didn't see anything special from DC seemed just like his character had the advantage .
icyth 4 years ago
Dude, like almost everyone has a nerfed move in Brawl.
Marth > Luigi
Nintend0wn15 4 years ago
no way, luigi could have won this easily, he missed the recovey -.-
this isnt melee, every character is balanaced to the very core
even kirby can own marth now, and he has the most disadvantage to marth
dude i saw yoshi beat fox in a pro match >_>
tiers dont mean shit this time around, if the best faced the worst in this game
id say he'd still have about a 40%+ chance of winning
Nintemagic 4 years ago 2
Damn...Smash Bros. is gonna get harder in the future.
Nintend0wn15 4 years ago
thats the point, we dont want more marths and foxs running around, you know?
finally tournies where we all dont play as fox/marth/falco/peach/jigz
its like getting 39 new characters >_>
Nintemagic 4 years ago
As long as you're good enough, you could beat a Fox or Marth with Pichu in Melee.
Axtlar 4 years ago
umm no, melee sucked donkey ass at balancing, the difference in marth and pichu was retarded, marth was like 10x better hands down
however in brawl the best/worst character match up would still yield like a 35-40% win rate for the worst
where as in melee it would be like a 5% win rate
overall its like 3-4x more balanced
Nintemagic 4 years ago 3
lol Luigi seems a little better in this iteration even without his amazing WD.
razorcloud 4 years ago
lol all that Marth did was spam Up+B.
Too bad Morb got hit by it everytime =\
ILoveStuff 4 years ago
Marth won the match. What a surprise. (sarcasm)
Tapepsi 4 years ago
marth isnt as good as before
no character in brawl is neither good OR bad
notice how luigi only lost by a hair
Nintemagic 4 years ago
Cuz Marth Spammed Up-b to the point where everyone knows when he will do it.
AznLanceLord 4 years ago
lol i havent played in a year or 2 and i 4get...whats wavedashing?
ECSit 4 years ago
so if they left in wavedashing and the sorts...what would be the difference between brawl and melee? instead of complaining, learn how to make luigi even better expecting this game to be EXACTLY like melee. thats what i plan to do.
7starnyc 4 years ago
Why the heck did they take away wavedashing....that move was like a turning point maker...
Imananimegod 4 years ago
jee idk dumbass maybe because it made the game retardedly unbalanced? this game however is 300% more balanced at least
Nintemagic 4 years ago
Wow. Luigi without wave dashing really isn't the same anymore. And the game play is a lot slower.
seph49 4 years ago
do u think marth uses dolphin too much?
xxbluejay21 4 years ago
Dude, this is not ---- Melee! Its BRAWL!
Otherwise, i want my money back on what i reserved, cause i'd just play it lol instead of waiting forever
Why do all of these utter noobs think this is melee? Its not! Face the facts! Sakurai has presented a much better game so dont complain that its not the same as 2 yrs. ago and its better.
Heck, go play melee right now if thats what u want so bad
BetaRover 4 years ago
DOOD u use marth like my grandma i know u can do better keep using marth hell yeah to the victory
lonelyn0body 4 years ago
As I stated earlier in MORB's previous vids, he needs to learn what air moves to do at the right time.
I saw him doing foward A, when it needed to be a Up A, or sometimes, he just needed to ignore attacking, and doge just to be safe, instead of missing, or getting hit first, since Marth's range is longer
Renji3690 4 years ago
DC's a lil up-B crazy
ChuChu44 4 years ago
Marth -_- up B up B up B
over and over...
Abscentx 4 years ago 2
this is not marth style... i prefer down B down B down B...
ShideShugo 4 years ago
the upB is better i think but i agree that using the downB when luigi was running towards him and stuff woulda worked nice, but u got to take into acount that smash isnt the type of game u sit there and think about...its the type u think about when u are training and hope that instinct kicks in when your fighting some1 else...idk how everone else plays, but when i fight its all just pure instinct on what button my fingers get to first. lol
BloodLegaZ 4 years ago 2
Great opinion, but if you use up B like this marth, you will not do more damage than 6%...
Using down B you do 1.1% damage. I use up B in critical situations.
ShideShugo 4 years ago
but it DEPENDS on the situation is what im trying to get at. if they are low damage and u have the oppotunity, downB and u might can follow it up. but if they high damage. sidestep and upB and gg.
BloodLegaZ 4 years ago
b UP HAS GREAT KNOCK BACK and is a nice defense but thats so on a personal level
HellsAngelLust 4 years ago
Luigi with 160% damage cant go out with up B..
ShideShugo 4 years ago
Seems like Marth didn't get nerfed that much.. I thougt i could main another char now in brawl =( doesn't look like it, I mean if I want to win.
Ghostlybubble 4 years ago
I think the new mechanics of the game nerfed him. Marth was helped tremendously in Melee by wavedashing and edgeguarding. Wavedashing is gone, and it appears that standing at the edge and forward smashing doesn't work well anymore.
caligula11 4 years ago
Why do people asking about wavedashing keep getting thumbed off? It's a legitimate question and there are far worse posts to thumb off.
capefeather 4 years ago
lol idiots
jerms485555 4 years ago
wow i cant believe he actually got the ledge at 4:06
solidmoose 4 years ago
why is there a time limit?
starfox300 4 years ago
Tournaments can't take all day; one long match means everyone else has to wait for them before starting the next round, which can throw scheduling off.
The general rule is 2 minutes per stock.
TimeSpaceMage 4 years ago
They're playing Tourney style.
RedEyedTrooper2345 4 years ago
You know guys it's not Melee, it's a totally new game. Instead of complaining about the ways in how it's different Super Smash Brothers Melee like it being slower and no wavedashing etc, why not see it as a new set of challenges to overcome?
Kiyosuki 4 years ago 4
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because the truth is, brawl was actually supposed to be melee but with more items, stages, and characters. face the facts and stop defending something that was so clearly fudged.
Sturminator10 4 years ago
Oh really?
Where was it specifically stated that this game (which was only released a week ago, in Japan, and not even in the west yet I might add) was "meant to be Melee but with more items, stages, and characters". No quasi quoting, I want you to link where it says this.
Kiyosuki 4 years ago 3
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you make a bad point pal. fans of melee expected it to be the same thing with more stuff. sakurai is stupid because he did not do this, despite what his most devout fans pleaded. im sorry to say that you will be pretty disappointed.
Sturminator10 4 years ago
I didn't make any point. I'm still waiting for a link.
Kiyosuki 4 years ago
I'm glad WD and FCing is out. Now i don't have to learn them. Plus my friend can stop showing off just because he could do it in Melee.
JaxTH 4 years ago
I'd rather have a second Super smash than an expansion to melee. And I belive the most peeps says that
Ghostlybubble 4 years ago
You don't have a link do you?
So why are you telling me to "face the facts" when you don't have any of your own, aside from bellyaching?
Kiyosuki 4 years ago
"fans of melee expected it to be the same thing with more stuff. sakurai is stupid because he did not do this, despite what his most devout fans pleaded. im sorry to say that you will be pretty disappointed."
Sturminator10 4 years ago
Sturm that's not a fact, you quoted yourself.
Kiyosuki 4 years ago
What fans are we talking about, here? Aren't you just stating opinions?
AtomicBucket 4 years ago
No it is a fact. I don't know if you've ever heard of the nintendo Nsider forums. On the smash bros brawl. Everybody was hoping that melee's characters and system of fighting would not change. "if it's not broken, don't fix it" they would all say.
Sturminator10 4 years ago
I see. Because people on an internet forum obviously represent the entire planet. That's an opinion. How do I know this? I'm a fan of Melee. But I don't want to play Melee 2.0... I want to play Brawl. You're just being arrogant, close-minded, and all around stubborn.
AtomicBucket 4 years ago
Yeah but most of the guys who were on the forums WERE melee's biggest fans.
Sturminator10 4 years ago
You're generalizing people pretty badly. And in case you haven't noticed. 1. NSider is dead. 2. Why, again, does an internet forum represent the entire population of Smash fans? Even so. You asked for more characters and you got it. What's the problem?
AtomicBucket 4 years ago
he ruined some of the characters and made them weaker or much stronger. take peach. she was my player. i watched a video where her throw was practically made useless. the guy had 150 damage and peaches throw would destroy andybody with that amount of health in melee. but in brawl it hardly sends em flying. link, already a high tier, was made a lot stronger. and pit, is wayy too good. crazy recovery, moderately powerful, and deals a lot of damage.
Sturminator10 4 years ago
Link is bottom of low tier. Pit has his flaws as seen through the finals of this match, everyone's recovery can be used and taken advantage of and Peach's forward throw got Nerfed but a lot of her other attacks have gotten buffed. 1. This isn't melee this is brawl. 2. Making Link a lot stronger hasn't changed the game, he still has weaknesses that can be taken advantage of. 3. Pit is the new Fox if you want to consider tier lists but there are always counters.
TheZeroFaReal 4 years ago
Sorry top of low tier* =P
TheZeroFaReal 4 years ago
OMG!? BRAWL ISN'T MELEE!? WHO'D OF THUNK IT?! What do you expect Sakurai to do? Say sorry for balancing out the characters? If Pit is hit in his Up B, guess what happens. He falls. The game has been out for a little over a week. I highly doubt we've learned all the strengths and weaknesses of the characters. You're just nit-picking and whining for the sake of it.
AtomicBucket 4 years ago
HE DID NOT BALANCE OUT THE CHARACTERS!
Sturminator10 4 years ago
And how long have you owned the game to make that observation?
AtomicBucket 4 years ago
ive had it for about five days now
Sturminator10 4 years ago
Are you kidding me? You've only had it for five days and are complaining about the characters? I supposed you've mastered all of them and have learned the ins and outs in the past five days. You also made a mistake when you were expecting to get Melee 1.5... This is Brawl. Not Melee. The changes are about as big as the changes from 64 to Melee. It only makes sense.
AtomicBucket 4 years ago 3
You know Sturm I've seen some anal and delusional tourneytards in my life, but you take it to a whole new level.
Kiyosuki 4 years ago
LMAO AT NSIDER
JisikeSama 4 years ago
"Link, already a high tier" -Sturminator
are you kidding me? The game hasn't even been released in the US or other regions besides Japan and you jump to the conclusion that Link is a high tier? It'll take people 6 months at the very least to make a tier list and the tier list would still be inaccurate. Stop being dumb...
C0nn0rTheBrawler 4 years ago
Wave dashing was apart of the game... don't be mad because you can't do it. Now it's not in it, i guess if u get enough noobs to complain you get your way? Or maybe its because it aided other glitches in melee and they didn't want it to occur in brawl.
nerugui01 4 years ago
wavedashers are pussies! They should start re-training RIGHT NOW for Brawl! They are in for a surprise!
Ketorulz 4 years ago 3
why are guys who play at a higher levle pussy? wavedashing helps alot. ur not bein very smart sayin that.
gundamxzero3 4 years ago
i saw plenty of ways Luigi could have won in this fight, he started to get more and more careless in the end so i guess he didnt deserve the win, and even tho anything goes in this game and you gotta do whatever you can to win, marth was massively cheap ith the up and move. He may have won but it was a very cheap win.
DarkRoast 4 years ago
wow Up B abusage
marth wins, go figure
arcticeagle 4 years ago
Luigi should've countered all those whiffed UpB's with his own UpB.
magnomanx 4 years ago
i havn't seen much of luigi's Up B
but he could have air dodged, if anything
arcticeagle 4 years ago
Good match.
Zalure 4 years ago
lol @ talking about wavedashing when its not in the game anymore. Plus I think it was a glitch but thats just me.
Doesn't matter its gone. End story.
Dias4Flac 4 years ago
GOOD! im glad that the wavedash is gone! now people can show what there really made of without the glitches.
DarkRoast 4 years ago
The wavedash is not a glitch. We just talked about this. Plus, your logic is very inconsistent. What constitutes "what they're really made of"? What should be banned because it's "cheap"? What does "cheap" even mean? If you're not allowed to wavedash, what else shouldn't we be allowed to do?
capefeather 4 years ago 7
well i know its not really a glitch its more like just sliding across the floor because of the momentum that pushes you after applying a quick airdodge to the ground, i only call it a glitch because its kind of a habit for me. i dont think they intended the wavedash to be a real move.
DarkRoast 4 years ago
Everyone i fought seems to abusive that damn Wavedash and it really doesnt even help thay much at all, i always just thought it was useless. my opionion is if you are a pro, fight with the moves that were intended to be used if your a pro.Most people who use it against me just looked like they ere sliding around the floor like a bunch of idiots and it starts to get annnyoing and obvious after a while, Next thing they kno they get knocked out by a Meteor Blast to the face.always loved doing that.
DarkRoast 4 years ago 4
Well yes, wavedashing into a meteor is no different from rolling into a forward smash. A lot of people try to WD just for the sake of "doing something advanced" and get their asses kicked for running into attacks. Of course it won't look useful then.
Now if they could do it NATURALLY and use it when appropriate, it could give them a speedup and some extra mindgames. They'd have to learn to play smarter by paying attention, and they'll probably suck for awhile still before getting better.
TimeSpaceMage 4 years ago
Hmmmm good point! but i guess wave dashers will have to try something new now. i also hope Marth players wont be so abusive to the Up B Move.
DarkRoast 4 years ago
IMO wavedash was only good for spacing and a quick way to grab the ledge.
dorik0 4 years ago
What TSM said.
capefeather 4 years ago
Epic win.
Marth's entry is cool, while luigi's entry if funny. lol they're great. ^_^
estebanchaidez 4 years ago
ZOMG your 666 movie!
Anyway, awesome battle!
Hikasu3445 4 years ago
Wavedashing was a glitch
FalconPaunch 4 years ago
who cares
ChaosLolz 4 years ago
Do I really need to talk about this again? When you wavedash, the physics works EXACTLY as it should. I guess the Reaver Drop and the horizontal shinespark are glitches, too.
capefeather 4 years ago
haha well wd is no more :(
u cant directionally dodge anymore
ssbmJ666 4 years ago
Wavedashing was air dodging diagonally its not a glitch its just making the game work in different ways
superpaco03 4 years ago
Then why was it removed if it wasn't a glitch?
LightningrodC 4 years ago
*sigh* I get a thumbs-down even though I'm using logic.
Things can be removed and not be a glitch. An unpopular unit/character, a redundant, useless move, etc. You can't prove that they specifically removed the wavedash intentionally. The new air dodge makes WAY more sense for what it's actually supposed to be used for - dodging in the air. It's no longer a recovery move.
capefeather 4 years ago 7
well im givig you a +1 Because your logic makes sense. Your right its not really proven that they removed it on purpose but its definitly gone.......Not that i care tho because i actually always hated the wavedash and never use it but i know how to do it.
DarkRoast 4 years ago
I love when Marth gets that victory pose! I replace the Japanese words with "GTFO!" and with his hand movements it loves like he actually says that =)
drehannoush 4 years ago
marths attacks seem MUCH faster in brawl, but also a lil weaker then in melee
TGunit 4 years ago
its cool that you can use luigi's B down to go up in the air
Sturminator10 4 years ago
Y move is called Luigis Cyclone. When its used if you repeatly press the b button you will fly upward. same thing can happen with mario's tornado which is very handy.
DarkRoast 4 years ago
I don't get why so many people are stressing about the wavedashing. In the more intense tournies I've seen at least, Ken included, it was never an essential trick. Just more something nifty to have, but I've never seen any of the best players actually rely on it like it's game breaking.
Kiyosuki 4 years ago 5
Yea i never had to rely on the Wavedash to get plenty of kills i always used my skills and good move combos. There really is no need for the wavedash.
DarkRoast 4 years ago
becuase they will not be "pro" anymore, or that is what they think because is ot necessary
Piskox 4 years ago
IMO the more pressing issue is the loss of L cancel.
Whatever though, I and other good players will find ways around it.
dorik0 4 years ago
I'm not entirely sure on this one but, I've heard some people saying that it actually IS in brawl, it's just that you perform it in a completely different way. "in brawl to l cancel you have to fast fall before your aerial so he just short hoped, fast faell, Fair." That's what one guy said, I'm not sure if it's true though.
zaladen 4 years ago
It's true. L-cancelling didn't really have much of a point, though, other than being a chance to mess up and get extra lag.
capefeather 4 years ago
this was only in the demo and was removed from the full version of the game :(
Junova 4 years ago
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No more wave dashing? Meh
AnimePenguin101 4 years ago
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what happened to wave dashing...
ace52387 4 years ago
bye bye
HottestPepperOnEarth 4 years ago 2
Damn man.. marth should of died so many times. I really don't like how they nerfed Luigi's Dair and Fair so much. Marth was like at 150 and he didnt die from the Dair move, jeeze. Its gonna take some time to get use to people like dieing in the 200%
flashfoward88 4 years ago
Wow, it seems that Marth and Luigi have been training these past couple of years
They're way better now
wildfire3969 4 years ago
This is your 666th video! O_O
Yeah I visited your profile and noticed.
NightmareShadowPure 4 years ago
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6/6/6?
THE ANTI-CHRIST IS COMING!
scizorking 4 years ago
Captain Falcon is coming!
GTFO
ShinVirus 4 years ago
Wow wow, just kidding >_>
scizorking 4 years ago
666 FTW!
KumoNaruto 4 years ago
Finally the marth is starting to abuse strategies. No one seems to be abusing marths side b though... Its pretty effective in this game IMO. So is the up B outta shield I guess.
1337sagemoon 4 years ago 2
Yeah, these guys seem to forget they're playing brawl...
Seannaz453 4 years ago
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Wavedash at 1:42?
RangFlash 4 years ago
that was just a slide from the shield stun, luigi was like that in melee too
TheQuaz 4 years ago
Knockback...
Di2ifter 4 years ago
No. Like Melee, Luigi slid from a shield stun.
kouryuuXfighter 4 years ago
Hahaha, the Marth had Luigi eating outta his palm after the ^B Barrage... Later in the match, you could see Luigi hesitating to stay out of the range of it but would get smacked by something else. The Marth player might not have had as much tech skill as the Luigi player, but he sure knew his opponent =)
jVeysey 4 years ago 2
does any one know if luigi still has his uppercut
tyger006 4 years ago
even though he lost, the luigi player is awesome, i think the marth player just started spaming his up b.
phoenix9909 4 years ago
possibly the most enthusiastic "let's uh go" to date.
emotaku 4 years ago
This wasn't THAT close, he got 2 stocked out of 3.
shenorock 4 years ago
Good Fight
rabbeseking 4 years ago
nice match, he shouldn't spam ^B like that.
kidbu916 4 years ago
yeah WTF, shield UpB shield upB shield upB ...
ynnek123 4 years ago
I'm pretty sure he wanted a reverse upB. If it was Melee, Luigi would have been dead 10x over.
KumoNaruto 4 years ago
1:20 wavedash? i thought this was down..
PeaceD3vil 4 years ago
that was the opening animation of his dash...
ynnek123 4 years ago
No, just a quick dash.
kouryuuXfighter 4 years ago
Its nice to know that ppl were overating marth because this match was pretty close and shows that marth isnt as broken as before XD
Flaminglink 4 years ago
that guy didn't know what he was doing, there are plenty better Marth players then him.
kidbu916 4 years ago
yeah, he got to the semifinals by not knowing what he was doing
SamoDaJerbal 4 years ago 4
already? would you care to name a few?
Hawke90 4 years ago
wow @ 4:08. I guess ledge guarding is a lot more lenient in this game. Very nice match. I'm very anxious to play this game
Di2ifter 4 years ago
yeah, that one surprised me too.
kirbyy 4 years ago
So stay on that ledge people! Don't roll!
KumoNaruto 4 years ago
I think they're doing that on purpose because their invincibility ran out, so they can roll and wait for the opponent to get up.
capefeather 4 years ago