I think Geraldo needs another chair to the face and I'm not straight edge. The officer even said these incidences, as horrible as they are, are rare cases. The trouble with conservative media is no one thinks or listens, they only speak.
@NickTheHun "no one thinks or listens, they only speak." Like any of Earth Crisis fans have the capacity to think for themselves!!?? That's why all these clones go edge for a year...usually in their later teen years when they are at their most impressionable age, then move on to something else when they realize how stupid sXe is.
geraldo is a dweeb. im not straight edge, but i agree with some of the ideals and values. drugs are nothing but f***ed up coping tools that lead users into spiralling paths of self destruction. and its sad that such a morally empowering movement gets the ill end of the stick in the media eye.
@tallxhopes Shut the fuck up you dimwitted twink. Do you read books? Do you watch movies? Do you take an advil when you have a headache? Do you enjoy a nap after a hard day's work? They're ALL coping tools. If you don't wanna puff on a J or sip a few cocktails, then don't...lumping us all in to the "spiralling paths of self-destruction" category is no better than lumping all Blacks in to the hubcap thief category you ignorant fuck.
chances are that the kid that got the beat down was a drug dealer, which theyd never disclose on the media (or the family could sue for defemation of character), in which case, he got what was coming. those that make money on the weaknesses of society through addictive flaws deserve to eat a shoe toe-first. yea i feel for the dad ans admit there are some violent sxe kids, but since when is it a crime to not be a fuck up??
People still associate straight edge with being almost exclusively hardline. Straight isn't bad at all but I find people who just claim being sober are the most laid back about it.
I'm straight edge but because the media concentrates on psychotic douche bags like this, it's usually something I keep on the DL outside of shows. These kids belong in prison.
That said, Geraldo is a sack of human bile and it's a crime to let him in front of a microphone or a camera.
i'm comparing the average straight edge follower to the militant style hardliners. a kid can follow the SE lifestyle, but there's the violent hardliners that are just lame street toughs. hardliners just wind up making the whole scene look bad. it's a bad offshoot of a positive mindset.
The hardline philosophy forbids its adherents from smoking or chewing any form of tobacco, drinking alcoholic beverages, and using illicit drugs or modern medicines. Hardliners (as they are called) are expected to follow a strict dietary regimen based on the above-mentioned pillars of respect for innocent life and the natural order. Hardliners eat only foods that are vegan and relatively natural (e.g. brown rice
over white, evaporated cane juice over white sugar, organic produce over conventional, natural oils over hydrogenated). Human rights issues are also factored into the movement's food politics, and followers
@Longboarder140 are urged to shun third-world cash crops such as coffee, chocolate, sugar, and most tropical fruits. Hardliners include caffeine in their stance on mind-altering drugs so the first two items are generally abstained from, but consumption of the last two is often given more leeway.
What makes it "newsworthy" is that it is so rare. That is what makes it so sensational. If it was common, like all the drink/drug/smoking violence/destruction/death, then it wouldn't be news. Geraldo, like all of his ilk, is trying to make it more sensational than it is. Even the cop admitted, after his long dramatic (uninteruptted!) story that the kids who did it were drug dealers, not even straight edge. Put your life in order: no booze/drugs/vices <-- regardless of how society says to live.
Yeah, I definitely wouldn't want my children to get caught up in that straight edge garbage. I can't remember the last time I read about violence due to drug/alchohol use. What a joke of a news station, of course there is going to be friction when people feel differently about certain things, especially when they feel as strongly about something as sxe people feel about drugs. Geraldo is religious, but he never criticizes christian lifestyles for violence even though the majority of America is.
hey Geraldo Timothy Mcveigh was a Christian. When he blew up the building in Oklahoma, why not go interview Christian gangbangers?!?!?! Your logic (and the same logic about muslims and 9/11) is so neanderthal
Militant sxe is a joke. The kids go to a Madball show and pile on for H.C. United then a few months later beat a kid blind because he's not straightedge. Lets drink 3 energy drinks a day and beat down a kid for having a beer or cigarette. Better yet, hang out with Terror and Death Before Dishonor then spend time in prison for cracking a skateboard across a guy's face for smoking at a bus stop. Fascism and hypocrisy. You know it's bad when sxe forefathers are speaking out against it.
@ENTERSHIKARIJUSTIN yeah you dont do drugs but you're a gay basher and probably like to go around in groups beating up drug addicts ...thats alot better. SO HARDCORE
no not all straight edge kids are like this. its mindless ignorant fucks who think everyone HAS to be against drugs, etc. straight edge isn't a bad lifestyle at all, ( i cant do it) but using violence to shove ideas down other's throats is as arrogant as saying you can smoke 10 blunts to your face without passing out
especially this douche bag with the blue bandanna, id like to drop him off in south central and see how long his faggot ass lasts. lol what a freaking dork
@zyklonbmovie oh yeah? and what exactly have you done with your life? cause im sure it hasn't been spent touring the world fronting one of the most influential hardcore bands, being involved in human/animal rights activism and promoting positive lifestyles. and im sure you were never featured on almost every major tv network as a representative of that movement, or stood before congress to speak on teens and substance abuse. all which Karl Buechner has done. lets see what your life amounts to.
at least now the ones who were convicted were probably raped in jail and hopefully died of aids, i wonder if they are going against their own ideals when they are getting raped in the ass in jail,
straight edge is so gay, who cares if you dont drink or smoke or fuck, thats your own preference dont tell other people what to do, its a fascist ideal
Just because you're vegan doesn't mean your not a meat-head. Just because you don't do drugs doesn't mean you aren't high on white male privilege. Violent machismo behavior has no place in punk rock.
@spookysixx I know it's ridiculous, DC and the plethora of bands that came up or made it there, the most visible being Henry Rollins-whose show is the most legit interview show on the boobtube
Earth Crisis was the most legit and hardcore band in the 90s- the racist at the show was obviously just a club parasite- true Earth Crisis fans would have only attacked a BP exec or kidnapped his son who happened to show up at the show
No man. That's not what it's about. There's always a few boneheads at every show, in every community, in every musical style, and unfortunately they always shout loudest and do the stupidest things.
@steveorama1978 I'm not SXE anymore, but I was in the scene for a long time. The only wimpy bitch is you. Seriously? You and the faceless internet just called people out on YOUTUBE!?! And you're proud of using? Wow, you're a fucking loser. You would get your ass carved up by that scene, either in a group OR one-on-one. As far as Geraldo goes, dude is a boner. Kinda like you.
@myhero13 its my real name muthafucka, fuck them bitches, sausage party. just like the other dude said, how many straight edgers it take to drink a case, 1 when the others backs are turned..and that is fucking true poser bullshit scene.
@steveorama1978 exactly they all killed this kid for smoking a joint and one of them is holding!? fuck that shit, if you like to be clean, thats fine by me. but fuck straight edge. bunch of pussies.
geraldo is an idiot and cunts just never got the point. you can't label an ideology as a "gang" when you say yourself only "a small percentage" have gang behavior. moving on, in fixing a broken society it's okay to take collateral damage. and in the end - marijuana can be acceptable in sXe when everyone admits it's all the legal stuff that causes the damage - alcohol, tobacco, drugs, junk food. so the police shows for the millionth time it's part of the problem, not the solution
@swankinstender Unfortunately, he wasn't given much of a chance. Had he been given some room to breathe, I'm sure he could have articulated a more sound response.
this video is hilarious, watch towards the end when giraldo tries to get a rise out of Karl after he realizes he's the most intelligent sounding guest on the show and how straight edge violence isnt any more significant than violence in any other group...what a fool
@dcompton2009 no moron. i am straight edge and with pride. and no im not some follower of CM Punk, nice guy but not my reason, Its not a trend its a way of life. and by the way im not a kid so you can screw off.
@Kitten1633 im talking talking about every single one,im just talking about the ones that give you a bad name.,the ones who get shown on television.and thats good that your not a follwer of cm punk,lol
of course geraldo is going to be a fucking cock about something like this, hes an avid drug user.wile i myself am NOT straight edge, ive been in the hardcore scene for years, and know what it is.i have massive amounts of respect for sXe kids.also i would like to say that these "hardline" or "hate edge" kids are giving not only straight edge a bad name. but also the whole hardcore community.its sad.
@nyhardcore18 seriously your saying geraldo uses drugs?wheres your proof that he is an avid drug user,why would you have respect for people who jump kids,for making a decision that effects them and noone else.now if someone was smoking a blunt and blew smoke in one of their faces,purposly i could understand his ass getting beat,but to jump somone just because they might be drunk or high is fucked up,fuck fsu.,well yeah let me say that im not hating on sxe kids just the ones who claim to fsu
@dcompton2009 ...geraldo has said many times that he smokes pot,and i never said anything about defending people that jump people.and i never defended FSU.i said and im Quoting "i have massive amounts of respect for sXe kids.also i would like to say that these "hardline" or "hate edge" kids are giving not only straight edge a bad name. but also the whole hardcore community.its sad."
@dcompton2009 i will now, give you my argument about FSU..obviously your'e not well informed on what FSU is or what they stand for..so i'm thinking you got your ..opinion from what you've heard on the news or word of mouth.so there for your opinion is flawed..because you don't really know.and for you to be "hating on" a group of people for the actions of a few "supposed" FSU members is totally ignorant.i know what FSU is and what they stand for.its a crew...nothing else.
@nyhardcore18 i never called them a gang or anything,all i know is that they dislike anyone who claims to do drugs,or drink.and they are known to start fights,and gang up on one guy,like i said i dont hate sxe kids,i hate people who claim to be in fsu.
@dcompton2009 like you said..thats what you "think" you don't KNOW.and no they don't dislike anyone who drinks...they don't like drug dealers in the hardcore scene.FSU isn't a sXe crew...they have sXe members.but not everyone is sXe...so there for that argument is invalid,and again, your taking what you've heard and saw from the media as fact.they are a CREW a BROTHERHOOD...you fuck with one of them your fuck with them all.its about brotherhood.
@dcompton2009 ive met several FSU members and there awesome people.they just ask that you treat them with respect like anyone else.like i said before..your judging a whole group on the actions of a few..and even those details are very trumped up.its obvious you're not a person of reason and your going to believe what you want regardless of what anyone tells you..so this will be my last response.just remember this..HATE IS BAGGAGE.get over yourself
@nyhardcore18 ok,not all of them may be like i said but the ones i have known and seen arent they way you say they are,but like you said i shouldnt judge the whole group because of a few,but you cant say that there arent alot of fsu bitches that are like i said.
@dcompton2009 there are people within the scene that have made a bad name for the rest of us..not saying these people belong to FSU or don't.thats all im saying.
geraldo's a low life. he gets paid to accuse and judge people whom backstories he doesn't even know. he doesn't know about sxe as a POSI movement. fuck HATE EDGE. that's some bullshit. he also picked one of the most oustopken band leaders to prove that sxe is a movement ran by people who can't admit their own faults. this is not true. SXE is about abstaining substances that ruin your body, and mind. i'ts NOT about beating people. I hate how this video has been architectured to prove that we are
you gotta love fox news for there amazing research department, so straight edge started in new york eh? never new that before. the commie anti american obama media always told me different. but if fox says so it must be true.
and isn't karls name actually pronounced büchner? not beekkner?
u realize that these were hardline and not straight edge u fucking idiots. straight edge kids r not rascist, do not force there opinions on people and are against everything that had to do with this. FUCK U, enough said
first off fuck geraldo dude. "karl why dont ya just say it?" he was about to fuckin say it.
second of all, if i knew who that fucking loser with the weed was id beat his ass before going after some sellout whos minding his own business. straight edge is badass, im all for it, but not stupid fucking stabbings by flaky ass hypocrites who claim edge yet still hang with drug dealers. fuck that.
It's too bad that Geraldo's Straight Edge "correspondance" is a well spoken intelligent person. That really didn't help the fact that Geraldo made an ass of himself by stomping all over everything That Buechner tried to say.
This is why watching the news is a mistake. Being informed about the facts is what's important, not listening to what Captain Mustache tells you.
@aphat I agree I hate when hosts interrupt when people are answering their questions. With that said, Geraldo does make a great point. Militant straightedge is a joke. It negatively portrays the straightedge community. Straightedge kids should run militant kids out of the scene like we did with Nazi punks years ago. Because face it, there is no difference between nazi punks and militant sxe; both are ignorant fascist cancers.
this is a perfect example of the media exploiting the facts to what they deem as a rating value. this news cast had horrible facts. Both groups were at fault for what happened. Bernardo's group antagonized the SXE group and it escalated to something that should not have happened. and for most of the Kearns crew who was involved with this is now on the drugs, smoking and drinking side of life.
i live in salt lake and know all about the Bernardo stabbing. 30 people is a gross over estimation. first of all no one should have died over this stupid incident. there were only 3 kids charged.
i think its really funny how you straight edge bitches think labeling yourself straight edge isnt following a crowd. why dont you grow up and just say you dont do any of those things instead of labeling yourself straight edge. just makes you sound like a bitch.
@XWAYOFLIFEX Wow, way of life, ease up on the meat pal. Your sweeping statement must have taken you all night to come up with. You make no clear point in it besides masking the fact that you like men's genitalia.
i love how the camera cuts to kids all Xed up and the majority of them look like theyre 15...im 22 and i am edge. i highly doubt that many of them dont claim edge anymore. ive got nothing against people who do drink and that shit but dont give people who live this way a bad rep just because some douchebags beat some kid down..thats the rare case...
Haha i went ta see exc at a club called seaseas years back half way throught the show it was brought to our attention that they had assulted the driver of a meat truck and would not be playing that night!!!! Earth Crisis kicked ass!!! Great vid too fuck geraldo
You bring a valid point, but just remember this. Corporate Media is always going to see the ugly side of anything. To just now, I never knew straight edge people where even violent.
This newsreader is truly awful. It appears that he studied the Joseph Goebbels school of broadcasting. Loaded questions, emotive language....... awful!
Got to agree with xTRUExHATEx though. Buechner certainly does not shine in his interview. He comes across as a complete chump. A thorough condemnation of the violence would have done the world of good.
Wasn't Karl Buechner trying to explain that sXe is a mostly positive movement just as Geraldo was loudly getting in his face like an over-eager jackass recommending that Karl say exactly what he was saying at the time???!!! It doesn't matter if you're sXe or not (I myself am not). Geraldo Rivera is one of the worst newscasters of all time. Just look at his oh so successful 1986 tour of Al Capone's vault for proof!
Yeah, but Buechner refused to condemn (or even acknowledge) the actions of the violent minority among us and said that violence is a bad idea because it could result in incarceration, not because it is inherently immoral to assault people for no reason. IMO he did a terrible job of representing the sXe community and actually made us look worse.
wow, geraldo is a fuckn jackass! that cat doesnt know shit and he's yelln at karl like its his fault. like he was out there beatn kids up. oh, and btw. geraldo, if u ever give away military position ever again i will beat that bitch ass mustach off ur face. dumb ass motherfucker. how the fuck do u even have a job. cocksucker.
They say it's horrible how it's so violent and how could anyone enforce their morals that way, but how the fuck is it anything different from the past 2000 years of Christianity? I mean come on.
Every fucking time.Every new report and every documentary, the media makes an ass out of a straight edger. They just put that singer on there to patronize him and try to prove a point.He even pispronounced the band name on purpose.every time he would try to say something that made sense, they would stop him.That kid that died was probably some pot smoker and that dad should have done his responsability as a parent to stop it.
Fucking media...Geraldo is stupid, he's misinformed. Don't listen to anything you hear from the "idiotbox" sitting in your den. Don't believe anything you can't prove.
That should be the name of that fat doughboys band. Someone should tell Karl that obesity poses way more of a threat to your health than recreational drug use. Maybe that chubby little jelly roll should make it to the gym.
I think you also have to be homosexual to be straight edge. You certainly won't ever find any women at those gatherings.
Straight edge is a personal thing and it shouldnt be forced upon those who chose to drink or smoke its their choice people cant force them to do what they want them to do
if u want to change how people's habits are be a positive example not a militant straight edge asshole
I'm not even edge and that shit makes me sick. Geraldo is rough man, rough. And the fucking pig at the end saying the kid with pot proves that straight edge isn't true, of course there are people fucking it up, and that integrity issue is something they will have to live with.
Some people in straight edge do consider themselves a gang, maybe not consciously, but jumping people is never the way to go about thngs.
I love how the fail to mention a damn thng about the posi movement. JOKE!
i hate the way that this is turning out everyone thinks that an edge kid is gonna stab you if you look at them it might be like this in the states, i dont know i live in scotland but from what i can see edge kids that impose there beliefs on other people are just undermining everything edge stands for
the captions are great..."straight edge members typically do not use drugs or alcohol" and "straight edge originated the in the new york area" wow fox news, again do some fucking research. "did anyone from the the movement speak up?" straight edge doesn't have board of directors or committee you assholes...fuck fox news and fuck reno, nv sxe.
I think Geraldo needs another chair to the face and I'm not straight edge. The officer even said these incidences, as horrible as they are, are rare cases. The trouble with conservative media is no one thinks or listens, they only speak.
NickTheHun 2 weeks ago
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@NickTheHun "no one thinks or listens, they only speak." Like any of Earth Crisis fans have the capacity to think for themselves!!?? That's why all these clones go edge for a year...usually in their later teen years when they are at their most impressionable age, then move on to something else when they realize how stupid sXe is.
elburrodiablo 1 week ago
Fox News is a cancer. But then again, so are all these so called "News Networks". Also, Geraldo needs his face ripped off with a claw-hammer.
coffeecreep2000 2 weeks ago
geraldo is a dweeb. im not straight edge, but i agree with some of the ideals and values. drugs are nothing but f***ed up coping tools that lead users into spiralling paths of self destruction. and its sad that such a morally empowering movement gets the ill end of the stick in the media eye.
tallxhopes 1 month ago
@tallxhopes Shut the fuck up you dimwitted twink. Do you read books? Do you watch movies? Do you take an advil when you have a headache? Do you enjoy a nap after a hard day's work? They're ALL coping tools. If you don't wanna puff on a J or sip a few cocktails, then don't...lumping us all in to the "spiralling paths of self-destruction" category is no better than lumping all Blacks in to the hubcap thief category you ignorant fuck.
elburrodiablo 1 week ago
chances are that the kid that got the beat down was a drug dealer, which theyd never disclose on the media (or the family could sue for defemation of character), in which case, he got what was coming. those that make money on the weaknesses of society through addictive flaws deserve to eat a shoe toe-first. yea i feel for the dad ans admit there are some violent sxe kids, but since when is it a crime to not be a fuck up??
irishfolkpunk 1 month ago
"One of the straight edgers was found with two containers of marijuana and a scale" Then, he wasn't straight edge! hahah
Xveglentil24X 2 months ago
I like how the "THUG" (karl) is extremely articulate and logical.
Xveglentil24X 2 months ago
People still associate straight edge with being almost exclusively hardline. Straight isn't bad at all but I find people who just claim being sober are the most laid back about it.
lenireeferstahl 3 months ago
Somebody throw another chair to Geraldos fucking ugly face!!!!!
xmatamorosx 3 months ago
I'm straight edge but because the media concentrates on psychotic douche bags like this, it's usually something I keep on the DL outside of shows. These kids belong in prison.
That said, Geraldo is a sack of human bile and it's a crime to let him in front of a microphone or a camera.
RikkWolf 3 months ago
I reckon those straight edgers need a swift pint to calm down a bit, pak o wankers.
Kroychzech 3 months ago
Fuck Geraldo. XXX
evolutionfilmer 3 months ago
SE kids =/= hardliners
Longboarder140 3 months ago
@Longboarder140 I'm not sure your using the term Hardliner right.
No offence
ienjoygrindcore 3 months ago
@ienjoygrindcore
i'm comparing the average straight edge follower to the militant style hardliners. a kid can follow the SE lifestyle, but there's the violent hardliners that are just lame street toughs. hardliners just wind up making the whole scene look bad. it's a bad offshoot of a positive mindset.
Longboarder140 3 months ago
@Longboarder140
The hardline philosophy forbids its adherents from smoking or chewing any form of tobacco, drinking alcoholic beverages, and using illicit drugs or modern medicines. Hardliners (as they are called) are expected to follow a strict dietary regimen based on the above-mentioned pillars of respect for innocent life and the natural order. Hardliners eat only foods that are vegan and relatively natural (e.g. brown rice
ienjoygrindcore 3 months ago
@Longboarder140
over white, evaporated cane juice over white sugar, organic produce over conventional, natural oils over hydrogenated). Human rights issues are also factored into the movement's food politics, and followers
ienjoygrindcore 3 months ago
@Longboarder140 are urged to shun third-world cash crops such as coffee, chocolate, sugar, and most tropical fruits. Hardliners include caffeine in their stance on mind-altering drugs so the first two items are generally abstained from, but consumption of the last two is often given more leeway.
ienjoygrindcore 3 months ago
@Longboarder140 thats what hardliners are they are confused alot now adays because there not around anymore that part of the culture sort of died out
ienjoygrindcore 3 months ago
What makes it "newsworthy" is that it is so rare. That is what makes it so sensational. If it was common, like all the drink/drug/smoking violence/destruction/death, then it wouldn't be news. Geraldo, like all of his ilk, is trying to make it more sensational than it is. Even the cop admitted, after his long dramatic (uninteruptted!) story that the kids who did it were drug dealers, not even straight edge. Put your life in order: no booze/drugs/vices <-- regardless of how society says to live.
FathomlessJoy 5 months ago
Yeah, I definitely wouldn't want my children to get caught up in that straight edge garbage. I can't remember the last time I read about violence due to drug/alchohol use. What a joke of a news station, of course there is going to be friction when people feel differently about certain things, especially when they feel as strongly about something as sxe people feel about drugs. Geraldo is religious, but he never criticizes christian lifestyles for violence even though the majority of America is.
FiveYearPayoff 5 months ago
hey Geraldo Timothy Mcveigh was a Christian. When he blew up the building in Oklahoma, why not go interview Christian gangbangers?!?!?! Your logic (and the same logic about muslims and 9/11) is so neanderthal
calico992 5 months ago
Militant sxe is a joke. The kids go to a Madball show and pile on for H.C. United then a few months later beat a kid blind because he's not straightedge. Lets drink 3 energy drinks a day and beat down a kid for having a beer or cigarette. Better yet, hang out with Terror and Death Before Dishonor then spend time in prison for cracking a skateboard across a guy's face for smoking at a bus stop. Fascism and hypocrisy. You know it's bad when sxe forefathers are speaking out against it.
aw230012 5 months ago
@zyklonbmovie im sure if you dropped him off thousands would follow. Nobody's touchin my fuckin brother. FAGGOT
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YoshimitsuBloodPedal 5 months ago
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@ENTERSHIKARIJUSTIN yeah you dont do drugs but you're a gay basher and probably like to go around in groups beating up drug addicts ...thats alot better. SO HARDCORE
YoshimitsuBloodPedal 5 months ago
Geraldo is lame. Never even gave Karl a chance to speak and when he did try to he was talked over.. maybe thats why geraldo had his face smashed
NERDxxCOREx 7 months ago 5
@NERDxxCOREx I heard Karl finish his point unabated. Listen more closely.
exploitmankind 2 months ago
no not all straight edge kids are like this. its mindless ignorant fucks who think everyone HAS to be against drugs, etc. straight edge isn't a bad lifestyle at all, ( i cant do it) but using violence to shove ideas down other's throats is as arrogant as saying you can smoke 10 blunts to your face without passing out
M0j0S0D0pe420 7 months ago 5
Blegh what a prick.
infiltratethestate 8 months ago
especially this douche bag with the blue bandanna, id like to drop him off in south central and see how long his faggot ass lasts. lol what a freaking dork
zyklonbmovie 8 months ago
@zyklonbmovie oh yeah? and what exactly have you done with your life? cause im sure it hasn't been spent touring the world fronting one of the most influential hardcore bands, being involved in human/animal rights activism and promoting positive lifestyles. and im sure you were never featured on almost every major tv network as a representative of that movement, or stood before congress to speak on teens and substance abuse. all which Karl Buechner has done. lets see what your life amounts to.
persevereandovercum 7 months ago
what a bunch of dorks, with the freaking gay x's on their hands, id like to drop these kids off in the ghetto and see how long they last
zyklonbmovie 8 months ago
at least now the ones who were convicted were probably raped in jail and hopefully died of aids, i wonder if they are going against their own ideals when they are getting raped in the ass in jail,
zyklonbmovie 8 months ago
straight edge is so gay, who cares if you dont drink or smoke or fuck, thats your own preference dont tell other people what to do, its a fascist ideal
zyklonbmovie 8 months ago
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Just because you're vegan doesn't mean your not a meat-head. Just because you don't do drugs doesn't mean you aren't high on white male privilege. Violent machismo behavior has no place in punk rock.
iamaswamp 8 months ago
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iamaswamp 8 months ago
smoke drugs! geraldo rules. straight edge is dumb. why dont you just smoke weed?
dogabortion 8 months ago
@spookysixx I know it's ridiculous, DC and the plethora of bands that came up or made it there, the most visible being Henry Rollins-whose show is the most legit interview show on the boobtube
PtAltmVansanTarr 8 months ago
Earth Crisis was the most legit and hardcore band in the 90s- the racist at the show was obviously just a club parasite- true Earth Crisis fans would have only attacked a BP exec or kidnapped his son who happened to show up at the show
PtAltmVansanTarr 8 months ago
man, its like Karl was on a murder trial and he wasn't allowed to have a defense attorney
xxchimakaraxx 9 months ago
It defeats the purpose to beat up non sxe people. Idiots.
kevinisginger 9 months ago
lies and allegations
TheManolakis 9 months ago
wtf straight edge started in dc not new york
spookysixx 10 months ago
Can't we all just get along <3
metalhead8666 10 months ago
Straight Edge members TYPICALLY abstain from drugs and alcohol"
Am I the only one who laughed at that?
zeppelinfan27 11 months ago 3
I love the music of earth crisis, but I'm not straight edge. Will I get fucked with at a show?
spazemunky 11 months ago
@spazemunky
No man. That's not what it's about. There's always a few boneheads at every show, in every community, in every musical style, and unfortunately they always shout loudest and do the stupidest things.
Sidar654231 11 months ago
they do attack in numbers, wimpy bitches take me one on one and my drug fueled ass will slice a bitch up
steveorama1978 1 year ago
@steveorama1978 I'm not SXE anymore, but I was in the scene for a long time. The only wimpy bitch is you. Seriously? You and the faceless internet just called people out on YOUTUBE!?! And you're proud of using? Wow, you're a fucking loser. You would get your ass carved up by that scene, either in a group OR one-on-one. As far as Geraldo goes, dude is a boner. Kinda like you.
myhero13 11 months ago
@myhero13 its my real name muthafucka, fuck them bitches, sausage party. just like the other dude said, how many straight edgers it take to drink a case, 1 when the others backs are turned..and that is fucking true poser bullshit scene.
steveorama1978 11 months ago
@steveorama1978 exactly they all killed this kid for smoking a joint and one of them is holding!? fuck that shit, if you like to be clean, thats fine by me. but fuck straight edge. bunch of pussies.
YoshimitsuBloodPedal 5 months ago
geraldo is an idiot and cunts just never got the point. you can't label an ideology as a "gang" when you say yourself only "a small percentage" have gang behavior. moving on, in fixing a broken society it's okay to take collateral damage. and in the end - marijuana can be acceptable in sXe when everyone admits it's all the legal stuff that causes the damage - alcohol, tobacco, drugs, junk food. so the police shows for the millionth time it's part of the problem, not the solution
marto1612 1 year ago
@marto1612 having racist belief is not an ideology its just ignorant stupidity. and such groups should be labelled as gangs
KLICHYSS 1 year ago
go vegan and save the animals!
normalguyable 1 year ago
Even though buechner is the most intelligent dude in this interview, I still didnt think he did that great of a job defending straight edge.
swankinstender 1 year ago
@swankinstender Unfortunately, he wasn't given much of a chance. Had he been given some room to breathe, I'm sure he could have articulated a more sound response.
Xveglentil24X 1 year ago
this video is hilarious, watch towards the end when giraldo tries to get a rise out of Karl after he realizes he's the most intelligent sounding guest on the show and how straight edge violence isnt any more significant than violence in any other group...what a fool
CaptxStraightxEdge 1 year ago
By the double-chins 'ol Karl is supporting, I'm gonna make the assumption that he abandoned the Vegan lifestyle long ago!! haha
cronker78 1 year ago
Yeah cm punk!
starrjack 1 year ago
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xBATTLESHARKx 1 year ago
Geraldo is a dick.
hail1234567890 1 year ago
The Antifa Straight Edge manifesto, read it friends.
bjarczyk 1 year ago
they inforce their opposistion to drinking and smoking with force hmmm just like the government and cops have done and do
dcompton2009 1 year ago
@dcompton2009 and they are both wrong.
MTVVH1sucks 1 year ago
@MTVVH1sucks yeah i know thats my point,you cant fight fire with fire
dcompton2009 1 year ago
fucking reno kids!!! if them fuckers were to behave like this in NYC where it all started, they would get their heads kicked in.
marianyhc 1 year ago
there always has to be some d-bag (or group of) to ruin it for the rest of us.
Kitten1633 1 year ago
@Kitten1633 ok scene kid,that sounds like something a scene kid would say lolll
dcompton2009 1 year ago
@dcompton2009 no moron. i am straight edge and with pride. and no im not some follower of CM Punk, nice guy but not my reason, Its not a trend its a way of life. and by the way im not a kid so you can screw off.
Kitten1633 1 year ago
@Kitten1633 im talking talking about every single one,im just talking about the ones that give you a bad name.,the ones who get shown on television.and thats good that your not a follwer of cm punk,lol
dcompton2009 1 year ago
of course geraldo is going to be a fucking cock about something like this, hes an avid drug user.wile i myself am NOT straight edge, ive been in the hardcore scene for years, and know what it is.i have massive amounts of respect for sXe kids.also i would like to say that these "hardline" or "hate edge" kids are giving not only straight edge a bad name. but also the whole hardcore community.its sad.
nyhardcore18 1 year ago
@nyhardcore18 seriously your saying geraldo uses drugs?wheres your proof that he is an avid drug user,why would you have respect for people who jump kids,for making a decision that effects them and noone else.now if someone was smoking a blunt and blew smoke in one of their faces,purposly i could understand his ass getting beat,but to jump somone just because they might be drunk or high is fucked up,fuck fsu.,well yeah let me say that im not hating on sxe kids just the ones who claim to fsu
dcompton2009 1 year ago
@dcompton2009 ...geraldo has said many times that he smokes pot,and i never said anything about defending people that jump people.and i never defended FSU.i said and im Quoting "i have massive amounts of respect for sXe kids.also i would like to say that these "hardline" or "hate edge" kids are giving not only straight edge a bad name. but also the whole hardcore community.its sad."
so were is your argument?
nyhardcore18 1 year ago
@dcompton2009 i will now, give you my argument about FSU..obviously your'e not well informed on what FSU is or what they stand for..so i'm thinking you got your ..opinion from what you've heard on the news or word of mouth.so there for your opinion is flawed..because you don't really know.and for you to be "hating on" a group of people for the actions of a few "supposed" FSU members is totally ignorant.i know what FSU is and what they stand for.its a crew...nothing else.
nyhardcore18 1 year ago
@nyhardcore18 i never called them a gang or anything,all i know is that they dislike anyone who claims to do drugs,or drink.and they are known to start fights,and gang up on one guy,like i said i dont hate sxe kids,i hate people who claim to be in fsu.
dcompton2009 1 year ago
@dcompton2009 like you said..thats what you "think" you don't KNOW.and no they don't dislike anyone who drinks...they don't like drug dealers in the hardcore scene.FSU isn't a sXe crew...they have sXe members.but not everyone is sXe...so there for that argument is invalid,and again, your taking what you've heard and saw from the media as fact.they are a CREW a BROTHERHOOD...you fuck with one of them your fuck with them all.its about brotherhood.
nyhardcore18 1 year ago
@dcompton2009 ive met several FSU members and there awesome people.they just ask that you treat them with respect like anyone else.like i said before..your judging a whole group on the actions of a few..and even those details are very trumped up.its obvious you're not a person of reason and your going to believe what you want regardless of what anyone tells you..so this will be my last response.just remember this..HATE IS BAGGAGE.get over yourself
nyhardcore18 1 year ago
@nyhardcore18 ok,not all of them may be like i said but the ones i have known and seen arent they way you say they are,but like you said i shouldnt judge the whole group because of a few,but you cant say that there arent alot of fsu bitches that are like i said.
dcompton2009 1 year ago
@dcompton2009 there are people within the scene that have made a bad name for the rest of us..not saying these people belong to FSU or don't.thats all im saying.
nyhardcore18 1 year ago
geraldo is a dumbass. get your facts right. check the subtitles on the screen.
"straight edge originated in the new york area" false, it was DC.
"straight edge members typically abstain from drugs & alcohol" false, they always do.
very, very few straight edgers enforce their morality. only the arrogant ones.
hxcthomas 1 year ago
geraldo's a low life. he gets paid to accuse and judge people whom backstories he doesn't even know. he doesn't know about sxe as a POSI movement. fuck HATE EDGE. that's some bullshit. he also picked one of the most oustopken band leaders to prove that sxe is a movement ran by people who can't admit their own faults. this is not true. SXE is about abstaining substances that ruin your body, and mind. i'ts NOT about beating people. I hate how this video has been architectured to prove that we are
lucadepu 1 year ago
@lucadepu the bad guys. fuck that.
lucadepu 1 year ago
geralcock
lucadepu 1 year ago
So they caught a guy with pot on him and the cop is still calling him straight edge? This is funny on so many levels.
deathmunky2k7 1 year ago
geraldo should get jumped
galen306 1 year ago
@galen306 you should get checked you idiot
lucadepu 1 year ago
sXe for life !!
galen306 1 year ago
That geraldo dumbass keeps interupting karl when he's talking. he's a fail.
213grant 1 year ago
you gotta love fox news for there amazing research department, so straight edge started in new york eh? never new that before. the commie anti american obama media always told me different. but if fox says so it must be true.
and isn't karls name actually pronounced büchner? not beekkner?
zucciniinabottle 1 year ago
FUCK RENO!!!!
stupid idiots ruin hardcore!
hardcoreprideww 1 year ago
Karl looks like he's on drugs and when did he get so fat?
avantguy 1 year ago
I like how it says that straight edge started in the new york area. they didnt even do their fucking research.
MasterOfTheDudeness 1 year ago
rico sauve made him look like a fool. i'm old i used to be a vegan sXe'r back in the day but karl came off as a douche right hurr.
illbedanged 1 year ago
Geraldo is a douchebag...
ShaolinDynasty 1 year ago
@ShaolinDynasty why? i'd like you to explain
illbedanged 1 year ago
@illbedanged He's a closed minded prick...need I say more, watch anything you like and he will put it down...and he stereotypes everyone.
ShaolinDynasty 1 year ago
Geraldos such a bastard..Go die.
dakotapats 1 year ago
u realize that these were hardline and not straight edge u fucking idiots. straight edge kids r not rascist, do not force there opinions on people and are against everything that had to do with this. FUCK U, enough said
iiiooo0 1 year ago
hahaha geraldo lolz what a trick ass bitch xxx
SALTLAKEXXX 1 year ago
Fox News Blurb @ Bottom: Straight Edge Started in New York Area." hahaha. So wrong. Way to do research, Fox
XTIMExTOxRISEX 1 year ago
Geraldo is such a tosser, the worst possible journalist.
L2daO2daZ 1 year ago 2
first off fuck geraldo dude. "karl why dont ya just say it?" he was about to fuckin say it.
second of all, if i knew who that fucking loser with the weed was id beat his ass before going after some sellout whos minding his own business. straight edge is badass, im all for it, but not stupid fucking stabbings by flaky ass hypocrites who claim edge yet still hang with drug dealers. fuck that.
dbaig187 1 year ago
It's too bad that Geraldo's Straight Edge "correspondance" is a well spoken intelligent person. That really didn't help the fact that Geraldo made an ass of himself by stomping all over everything That Buechner tried to say.
This is why watching the news is a mistake. Being informed about the facts is what's important, not listening to what Captain Mustache tells you.
aphat 1 year ago 17
@aphat I agree I hate when hosts interrupt when people are answering their questions. With that said, Geraldo does make a great point. Militant straightedge is a joke. It negatively portrays the straightedge community. Straightedge kids should run militant kids out of the scene like we did with Nazi punks years ago. Because face it, there is no difference between nazi punks and militant sxe; both are ignorant fascist cancers.
aw230012 5 months ago
this is a perfect example of the media exploiting the facts to what they deem as a rating value. this news cast had horrible facts. Both groups were at fault for what happened. Bernardo's group antagonized the SXE group and it escalated to something that should not have happened. and for most of the Kearns crew who was involved with this is now on the drugs, smoking and drinking side of life.
slaggenoff 1 year ago
i live in salt lake and know all about the Bernardo stabbing. 30 people is a gross over estimation. first of all no one should have died over this stupid incident. there were only 3 kids charged.
slaggenoff 1 year ago
asdfdsdddddfffdsadfdasdf
slaggenoff 1 year ago
i think its really funny how you straight edge bitches think labeling yourself straight edge isnt following a crowd. why dont you grow up and just say you dont do any of those things instead of labeling yourself straight edge. just makes you sound like a bitch.
ittsdann 1 year ago
Its funny how you faggots think drinking beer makes you a man .
Being straight edge makes me stronger because i dont go with the grain
fuck the grain fuck you! this is why violence happens because bitches like you faggots say drink a beer ''
shure its easy to go along with the crowd drink and what not
Straight Fucking Edge XXX
XWAYOFLIFEX 1 year ago
@XWAYOFLIFEX Wow, way of life, ease up on the meat pal. Your sweeping statement must have taken you all night to come up with. You make no clear point in it besides masking the fact that you like men's genitalia.
phantomrider78 1 year ago
lol...thats all
bigbassluna 1 year ago
these straight edge kids need to relax and go have a cold beer
mike935423 1 year ago
That Guy looks like Ned Flanders.
KeeYaBitch 1 year ago
"FUCK YOU GERALDO'" - xAFBx
ICJ3X 1 year ago
@ICJ3X no. terrible band.
JUGGALOGENICIDE 1 year ago
Geraldo is a boner. That dude likes to antagonize people.
phantomrider78 1 year ago 18
True, that is why he has gotten beat down numerous times.
thrashed80 1 year ago
straight edge is for 16 year olds. if you're older than 25 and still claim 'the edge', go check yourself.
poltronafrau 1 year ago
@poltronafrau Fuck you fag go check yourself before you get checked
XWAYOFLIFEX 1 year ago
@poltronafrau Yeah, god forbid people not feel the need to take drugs.
ElectricMayhem87 1 year ago
God! Geraldo is a fucking asshole.
CascadedDemise 1 year ago
I love the straight edge but fuck it's awkward to see on the news. Just saying "straight edge" sounds really weird, actually. haha.
SajidxYousuf 1 year ago
i love how the camera cuts to kids all Xed up and the majority of them look like theyre 15...im 22 and i am edge. i highly doubt that many of them dont claim edge anymore. ive got nothing against people who do drink and that shit but dont give people who live this way a bad rep just because some douchebags beat some kid down..thats the rare case...
th1ckerthanwat3r 1 year ago
man im not even strait edge..but geraldo is a dumbass.
EARTH CRISIS!!!
shadowsthatmove23 1 year ago
i must be out of it...but why does he say freya?? is that some side project??
shadowsthatmove23 1 year ago
@shadowsthatmove23
ExCx disbanded for awhile. Freya was Karl's project at the time.
STABxYOUxRAWR 1 year ago
Haha i went ta see exc at a club called seaseas years back half way throught the show it was brought to our attention that they had assulted the driver of a meat truck and would not be playing that night!!!! Earth Crisis kicked ass!!! Great vid too fuck geraldo
lordbird610 1 year ago
that dad looks like he loves beer. But seriously killing someone is going waay too far.
devilsweat138 1 year ago
if i was that lead singer i would be pretty pissed after this interview!
Funmachine17 1 year ago
@ConvertConcept
You bring a valid point, but just remember this. Corporate Media is always going to see the ugly side of anything. To just now, I never knew straight edge people where even violent.
papuchongo 1 year ago
@fatxbrian
I agree. Just because these guys can't get laid or handle their a glass of wine.. they have to freak out?
meinLiebsterFeind 2 years ago
This newsreader is truly awful. It appears that he studied the Joseph Goebbels school of broadcasting. Loaded questions, emotive language....... awful!
Got to agree with xTRUExHATEx though. Buechner certainly does not shine in his interview. He comes across as a complete chump. A thorough condemnation of the violence would have done the world of good.
CovertConcept 2 years ago
This just seems like such a mess. It's clear that the cases are hardly related... It's clear this was put together by a total idiot.
&That kids poor dad shouldn't haven been brought on here either..so sad.
iowaproductions 2 years ago
no were smart and beer taste like shit when i first taste it
ZAKROCKER93 2 years ago
@ZAKROCKER93
Humans have been brewing delicious beer for thousands of years... What kind of beer did you taste? Pilsner? Ale? Lager? Stout? Get real jackass...
meinLiebsterFeind 2 years ago
go 2 hell geraldo! you piece of shit!
RossCsemez17 2 years ago
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OvercookedSoul33 2 years ago
haha wuuuut?
iamonlyananimal 2 years ago
hahaha it was probably xafbx
SuperInfective 2 years ago
Also, Fox News=immediate fail.
oHelmslyo 2 years ago 2
Wasn't Karl Buechner trying to explain that sXe is a mostly positive movement just as Geraldo was loudly getting in his face like an over-eager jackass recommending that Karl say exactly what he was saying at the time???!!! It doesn't matter if you're sXe or not (I myself am not). Geraldo Rivera is one of the worst newscasters of all time. Just look at his oh so successful 1986 tour of Al Capone's vault for proof!
oHelmslyo 2 years ago
Yeah, but Buechner refused to condemn (or even acknowledge) the actions of the violent minority among us and said that violence is a bad idea because it could result in incarceration, not because it is inherently immoral to assault people for no reason. IMO he did a terrible job of representing the sXe community and actually made us look worse.
xTRUExHATEx 2 years ago
wow, geraldo is a fuckn jackass! that cat doesnt know shit and he's yelln at karl like its his fault. like he was out there beatn kids up. oh, and btw. geraldo, if u ever give away military position ever again i will beat that bitch ass mustach off ur face. dumb ass motherfucker. how the fuck do u even have a job. cocksucker.
optech9 2 years ago
i agree with you 100% EXCEPT about that album. i disagree about that hahaha
the all out war ep is all anyone needs.
sandyxklaws 2 years ago
yess "fuck you geraldo"
waltyboy17 2 years ago 2
Straight Edge violence!!!!!!
BigStiffWilly 2 years ago
Lol, the thing at the bottom says straight edge comes from New York. What kinda bullshit is that?
punkymcfliska 2 years ago
FUCK GERALDO
prakmayne 2 years ago 2
Geraldo drunk calls women and asks them to do fucked up sex things to him. His opinion of straight edge (or anything at all) isn't worth shit.
Metalcortaku 2 years ago
from the start this prick has no intention of making a balance argument just focusing on its gang status in nevada
good thing for karl don't getting angry and stooping to his level.
thebaboon88 2 years ago
Geraldo is fucking prick
man this guy don't know shit...sxe a gang?only in america...
xvegan666x 2 years ago
detroit hardcore
xbrandenx 2 years ago
Alguien podria pasarme lo que se dice escrito en ingles? Para traducirlo :D
VeganFLA 2 years ago
sXe 'til 21
antirocked 2 years ago
your soooooooooo funny
ryankassulke 2 years ago
Okay, here's what I don't get.
They say it's horrible how it's so violent and how could anyone enforce their morals that way, but how the fuck is it anything different from the past 2000 years of Christianity? I mean come on.
sillyblackgoose 2 years ago
Every fucking time.Every new report and every documentary, the media makes an ass out of a straight edger. They just put that singer on there to patronize him and try to prove a point.He even pispronounced the band name on purpose.every time he would try to say something that made sense, they would stop him.That kid that died was probably some pot smoker and that dad should have done his responsability as a parent to stop it.
30secstoromance 2 years ago
straight edge originated in DC not NY. dumbasses
joshiscool1213 2 years ago
word.
1000rtodd 2 years ago
Fucking media...Geraldo is stupid, he's misinformed. Don't listen to anything you hear from the "idiotbox" sitting in your den. Don't believe anything you can't prove.
lc1212 2 years ago 2
5:03 sounds like a firestorm
paintballerbmxer12 2 years ago
LOL!!! At the very end
Freida.
That should be the name of that fat doughboys band. Someone should tell Karl that obesity poses way more of a threat to your health than recreational drug use. Maybe that chubby little jelly roll should make it to the gym.
I think you also have to be homosexual to be straight edge. You certainly won't ever find any women at those gatherings.
FinnegansWakeUp 2 years ago
you ever been to a show scene girls every where
jeremiahtis 2 years ago
wow you're a fuckin idiot
armadini14farts 2 years ago
that kid deserved to die.
Edge for life.
mattxthexkiller 2 years ago
FUCK YOU Geraldo
dominickkh 2 years ago 10
I watched fox news alot and I hate Gerudo.
GothslayerEma 2 years ago
does someone has geraldo's e-mail address?
metal4lifeslipknot 2 years ago
Straight edge is a personal thing and it shouldnt be forced upon those who chose to drink or smoke its their choice people cant force them to do what they want them to do
if u want to change how people's habits are be a positive example not a militant straight edge asshole
braddizzle 2 years ago 3
thank you
bentherenow 2 years ago
I'm not even edge and that shit makes me sick. Geraldo is rough man, rough. And the fucking pig at the end saying the kid with pot proves that straight edge isn't true, of course there are people fucking it up, and that integrity issue is something they will have to live with.
Some people in straight edge do consider themselves a gang, maybe not consciously, but jumping people is never the way to go about thngs.
I love how the fail to mention a damn thng about the posi movement. JOKE!
adamherp02 2 years ago
geraldo is a jerk.
LumberjackOfTheHood 2 years ago
i hate the way that this is turning out everyone thinks that an edge kid is gonna stab you if you look at them it might be like this in the states, i dont know i live in scotland but from what i can see edge kids that impose there beliefs on other people are just undermining everything edge stands for
xDANx24x 2 years ago
the captions are great..."straight edge members typically do not use drugs or alcohol" and "straight edge originated the in the new york area" wow fox news, again do some fucking research. "did anyone from the the movement speak up?" straight edge doesn't have board of directors or committee you assholes...fuck fox news and fuck reno, nv sxe.
greenstreetriot 2 years ago