what an incredibly wonderful voice in a light body - and what a smashing smile in that tiny pause. I have never ever seen anything like that! Can't understand those lip movements but I perfectly understand each note of that sublime music.
Vivica Genaux does a splendid job, but I'm afraid this is a castrato aria and it just feels rather odd to hear this being sung by a woman. I wish a countertenor would attempt to sing it, without cutting the long phrase at the end (starts at 5h43). It's meant to last for a good minute, sung in one breath.
ESTO ES NACER PARA HACER LO QUE HAY QUE HACER......MI SOBRESALIENTE PARA ESTA CANTANTE..........Y VIVA....MARILINE HORNE.....EL RESTO ...YA SE VERA.....EL SIGLO ESTA ABIERTO PARA TODO TIPO DE ESPECTATIVAS
Responding to GoBogi and 'Singingtruth76' on treatises mentioning the buccal movement, one can present the Treatise on Vocal Performance and Ornamentation' by Johann Adam Hiller, 1774. In this he records an observation of Carestini, the famous primo uomo of Scarlatti 1721 and Handel 1733-1740. Hiller states:
....if he simply wants to bring it out with his throat; some make this easier for themselves by moving their lower jaw. Carestini did this often and always with success.
Has someone ever read anything about singing technique for coloratura in the golden age of italian Belcanto? Try to read Tosi treatise (1723) and to find whether there's any mention anywhere of any sort of buccal/jaw/whatelse movements for "passaggi" (coloratura). You will always find exactly the opposite. Simply her technique is not correct or at least not in keeping with any italian Belcanto principle.
They mention it. They frown upon it. What we're discussing is whether or not the movements are intentional and used by her to produce the coloratura, which they are not.
Those Baroque treatise have invalidated the techniques used by most modern singer, even those such as Enrico Caruso. Baroque treatise also invalidate the use of continuous vibrato. The italians used dynamic pressure which allowed them to insert vibrato on demand/discresionarily.
GoBogi, thanks for the information. I had no idea the movements of her jaw were unconscious and not related to her production of coloratura. I had the privelege of attending her recital in São Paulo, Brazil (I flew 1.200 km to see her!) and she was amazing. Most people there had never seen or heard of her, and the talk was about her jaw movements...
The Baroque singers used completely different methods of breath control than we use today. They also articulated differently than many/most singers did today.
What people do today is more similar to French Diaphramic articulation as opposed to Italian throat articulation. The fact that the breath control was different and they articulated in the throat is what allowed them to use vibrato "on demand": they varied the pressue and didn't rely on the ever-present "balance" like current singers.
The French articulated with the diaphram, so they couldn't really flunctuate the pressue levels like the Italian singers. The result was that they tended to use a continuous vibrato in their singing.
The italians frowned at that. Vibrato was an ornament, like a trill, mordent, messa voce, etc. It was used at discression, and they likened continuous vibrato to the bleating of a goat, among other things. Bottom Line: Different Eras, Different Values. Vivica is as HIP as 1 can see today :(
Thank you both for posting informed comments highlighting major differences in required Baroque vocal technique vs. Vivica's performance. So many singers today seem oblvious to the fact that their voices and techniques are contrary to what is required for an authentic Baroque, castrato sound.
I'm not really convinced that the technique she is showing in this video for the coloraturas is correct and can last long... she's good but she should also keep good for many years!
But Vivica Genaux seems to be an intelligent singer and I hope she works on the flaws of her technique.
P.S.: I had the pleasure to see her singing live (in another Biondi/Vivaldi production) and I can assure you that she's as stunning (both physically and vocally!) as in this video, if not more!
That's because you don't know what you're talking about (not to be mean, but no other way to say it).
The jaw movements do not alter her sound, and it's not a technique. She doesn't do it conciously, and she has sought professional opinion of it. She says it happens, and no one can explain why.
She does not do it to produce the coloratura, and the jaw movements often do not match the pattern of sounds that she is emitting.
(btw, when you say that the jaw movements do not match the pattern of sounds you mean in the syncred video? here of course they don't match, they are out of synch)
Did you read anything that I wrote? She has spoken about her buccal (i.e. facial/jaw) movements in more than one interview. That is not "technique," that is movement that she cannot consciously control, start, stop, whatever...
i am not used to this kind of singing...it did not sound good to me ...but what do i know.?...is it good to one who does listen to this kind of singing?can someone tell me
That is partially true. The connection of notes with that technique isn't regarded at as correct/appropriate neither stylistically nor technically.
Nevertheless Baroque music does tolerate less "tight" legato than other repertoires.
In the melismi Vivica has a better legato and less intrusive H sound than say Bartoli who is the epitome of how you shouldn't sing these florid pieces because they result all staccati.
Marylin Horne was another heavy "H"er, Ewa Podles is softer like Vivica
I'm gonna go on a limb and state the obvious: This aria is hard as hell to sing.
What I noticed is that they tend to use a glotal attack to the melismas. When she should be using the vowel 'a' (sounded ah) on the note, she tends to sing 'ha' instead. I think she does this because her breath support isn't really great enough to sing these arias "purely" (Castrati were known for their superhuman breath support and capacity).
I want to hear this sung without the glottal attacks!!!
A singer with inadequate breath support couldn't begin to tackle these long phrases. I don't hear any evidence of hard glottal attacks or repeated aspiration during the melisma. She is singing on the edges of her folds - the only way a singer could achieve this kind of speed & tonal accuracy. Hard glottal attacks would involve either excessive subglottal pressure or extraneous muscular activity in the vocalis. In either instance, there is no way she'd be able to achieve this kind of sound.
Likewise, repeated aspiration during a melisma would not allow for a hard glottal attack. One cannot aspirate [h] while the vocal folds are closed. It's impossible. Therefore, there is no chance of her using hard glottal attacks and repeated aspirated [h] at the same time. Plus, there is absolutely no way a singer with, as you claim, inadequate breath support, who uses hard glottal attacks AND excessive aspiration, could sustain such long phrasing. It's basic physiology.
What a Charming voice came thru angel throat by Vivica Genaux's,,the perfromance between her throat and whole Orchestra so great and strong that called perfect "show"
If the lip movement is a harmless idiosyncrasy, then who cares? What's scary is if she uses the lip movement to mimic the sound of real coloratura--that's a technique that won't last long.
Lips movement apart, she's an amazing instrument. A bit like Callas or Bartoli: you know it's her the moment you heard the tone. At least true coloratura isn't dying.
ROTHFLMAO! Vivi is a muse right here. Her voice is so perfectly set off by Europa galante's crispness. mme. Genaux is also better looking, and appears to have a totally unpretentious personality,
Oh yeah, and the voice? It's like comparing Freddie Mercury with David Hasselhoff. Different worlds.
No way... This is amazing. I mean, now I undestand why Farinelli was such a prodigy, this is so f$%&/ difficult to sing, and Genaux makes it very well.
@EdiEllerymissing I also sometimes wonder what were Farinelli's facial expressions when he sang:) Just out of curiosity. (I"m not hinting at anything about Genaux)
I like her since I ve bought her first record (was attracted for first only by the wonderful name Vivica Genaux!!) and after listening to her great aducated and well trained voice and musicianship I felt in love! Wish her all the best ...and I hope that she will win to be the favorite MEZZOSOPRANO for belcanto -and not this shrill crazy small voiced and boring Bartoli (Bartoli do only airy games with her voice like an chicken) BRAAAAAAAVA VIVICA!!!!!
I completely agree with vonDali. Dear Vivica, try to abandon your singing bad habits...before it's too late. The voice will not last long time if you sing that way. Relax and let the air floating, you'll see: singing will be no more so difficult!
hahaha! Shit!!! With rapid mouth movement (va,va,va,va,va,va) couldn't be created No coloraturas! No, under no circumstances! It's wrong technique! It's no any technique!
the pictures don´t fit to the music, but may be she tries to underline the movement from her lipps (i also know that a coloratura comes from below and not from the lipps but it´s her kind of interpretation, like an arm movement from a great pianist, like glenn gould, who made a lot unnessesary movements)it depends at last only on what you can hear and you can realize. i think she´s quite good.
i dont know if i would say that glenn gould's movements were unnecessary because without them he would not have played as well as he did, they were necessary to him. just because they dont make sense to anyone other than the artist does not make them superfluous.
This kind of... restores my faith in humans. (And no, I can't speak english.) I've listened to her whenever I feel that homo sapiens has nothing to offer anymore :-D especially since I am such a depressing example myself XD Sheeeesh, some things just are more beautiful than most beautiful things can ever hope to be.
The ornamentation is different - and in my opinion far superior - to that on her CD "Arias for Farinelli". I think Rene Jacobs holds her down. I agree with sfkcbf that Genaux's feminine timbre makes Farinelli obsessives like me long to hear Qual Guerriero sung by a man, but who is there who can do it? The only version I have heard is Angelo Manzotti, which is laughable.
incredibile omogeneità di registro,intonazione,gusto e "frase cantata" perfetti,agilità "fiorite" e "colorate" in maniera deliziosa..una grande artista..una pura voce di mezzosoprano acuto barocco..l'ho anche vista dal vivo e conosciuta..persona deliziosa e dal vivo ancora + brava..
cecilia bartoli doesn't do it because she doesn't sing farinelli. if she had to, she would do this with her lips. agility is an art and farinelli was apparently her god.
Yes, I also would have enjoyed hearing Farinelli singing this. Vivica's voice has a very pronounced tremelo and obvious feminine timbre, which to me sounds very odd singing Baroque, castrati arias.
Everytime I view this video I think what an incredible voice. What a gift to sing like an angel. Vivica moves me - she is a stupendous entertainer - a voice one can hear again and again. How lucky we are to share her talents on utube.
Oh, I agree that Vivica's sound and production and coloratura are superior to Bartoli's, and her musicianship is equal if not higher than hers. I am quite fond of her.
The only thing that distracts me is the flapping lip... it's disconcerting.
good ear goldenawakenibg not many people note that.but back in the day composer like Handel,
vivaldi eta..used the same song writers in a way to out do each other"same words" new music.but to note Riccardo Broschi song came out before vivaldi's did.evern Verdi,Mozart, and puccini all whet to war over opera writers
look for manon lescaunt and othello.both good operas but there are two of them find both works and u'll see what im takin about
I don't know why but this song sounds awfully like "Son qual nave ch'agitata"(another aria by Riccardo Broschi written for Farninelli) in some parts. 3:26, 5:20 are some examples.
Anyways, I still think its a very beautiful (and ornate, of course) piece.
genaux vs. bartoli. bartoli wins by a longshot. sorry to say. but genaux technique is straining and her voice is a bit to soft and quiet for this type of trumpet-like coloratura arias.
WELL IT'S ONLY MY OPINION!
opinion schminion, viveca still has a VERY beautiful voice! Excellent!
I don't think these two should really be compared. It's a different type of voice, different ball game. I find Vivica's voice quite clear even on the runs. She's doing an excellent job. Cecilia's been at it longer, don't forget. She said that when she was nine, she used to sing her younger sister to sleep in the car. I doubt Vivca was born then (but I'll google her to make sure).
I learned of m. Genaux via Fabio Biondi's Europa Galante redux of La Santissima Trinita. M Biondi is to the violin what Vivica is to the voice. Then raise that to the nth degree. I am convinced we are gifted with performance that would stun even Allesando Scarlatti, the father of the the father of modern keyboard technique.
vivica genaux is a true master non parallel. Such a sweety, socially gentile, intelligent, gifted, and passionate in voce, we will always love you Vivi!
Who gives a rat's ass about whether she moves her lips and jaw? Go ahead and close your eyes if you can't get past it. Better yet, stay home and let somebody who appreciates this outstanding artist have your seat.
How does one expect to actually create full resonance without opening the mouth, and further, how is it possible to open the mouth without moving the jaw? I'm so tired of overcritical postings by people who don't know any better.
One could way "We just have to wait and see". The frightening possibility is that she MIGHT not be singing well then. I hope she is, though, and that her technique is solid enough to bypass the effects of these 'ticks'
i've just listened to vivica genaux singing this terrific aria in a semi-staged production of the opera in venice, italy....and her singing is hair-rising indeed! no tricks at all: the agility of her singing is breath-taking and she doesn't lost any note in producing the music. plus her temper which is aggressive and commanding on the stage....and she is beautiful too! great artrist!
I flew as well to Venice last week-end to see Vivica live. It was absolutely incredible, amazing, breathtaking ... hearing this showpiece of speed and vocal agility.
I 100% agree, her temper on stage, her appearance - just fascinating. What an artist!!
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Why does one HAVE to start comparing one to the other, rather than focus on the artist on display here?..... unless it's so terribly important to show one's 'knowledge' of others' work. Yawn.... Not everything needs to be compared at nauseum.
I just purchase the Vivica Genaux album "Aria fûr Farinelli", where it's possible to here a previous version of Qual Guerriero. I can say that this Jasabe version is better. Enjoy !
this is very interesting...ive never seen any singer do this with their face. altho her sound is spectacular. cant look at her face tho and those insane lips, ashame cause shes pretty!
Magnificent voice - those who don't like her breathing technique - how many CD's have you sold? It is so easy to sit back with the privacy of your computer and be a critic. Be real she is beyond incredible - could you imagine having a fraction of her talent - probably not. That is why she sells out entire concert halls and you are posting negative comments here.
seanl125, I couldn't agree with you more. Thanks for putting it into such nice words. Now, for those who'd like to check a better upload of this very clip in youtube before purchasing the DVD, there's one by listener "saitbey" that's not out-of-synch.
Genaux SINGS beautifully, but that chipmunk lip thing just drives me nuts. I have never seen anyone else use such a technique while singing melismatic passages and trills. Although I love to hear the results, I can't bear watching it. Get the Bajazet CD set that contains this DVD so you at least don't have to put up with the lack of coordination between the audio/visual here. Still among more interesting posts. Thanks.
Absolutely amazing.. such a beautiful voice! And such a delightful, sensuous singer.. beautiful woman. But I am the only one here who noticed that the video and soundtrack don't match??
I must correct your contention that "this aria was written for Farinelli (Carlo Broschi) by his brother Riccardo Broschi".
While it is true that Riccardo Broschi wrote for his brother and that his music can be heard in the famous movie after his stage name, this aria is not a part of Broschi's repertoire.
I assure you that the Aria: Qual gurriero in campo armato, sung here by the lovely Vivica Genaux, was composed by Antonio Vivaldi and is part of his opera Bajazet.
Wow, ss1933... I should never take things for their face value. You are absolutely correct! Vivaldi did have his soprano Margherita Giacomazzi sing two arias known from Farinelli's repertoire written by Broschi in an attempt to combat the "reign of the castrati" in his opera Bajazet, something which should be less ambiguous than it is I am sure. Thank you for encouraging my further research of this topic! :)
Bajazet was indeed composed by Vivaldi but this aria, specifically, was composed by Riccardo Broschi. His intention was to attract audience by including in Bajazet known works by other artists.
The lip oscillation is very interesting to me. Obviously, it works bc her coloratura is awe inspiring. Anyone want to give insight into this technique?
(for sfkcbf)I disagree as far as holding back from temptation goes, although I appreciate the perversely subtle way in which you expressed this rather wicked remark.
Genaux's coloratura is astonishing: accurate and clean, every note clearly audible, with none of the machine-gun quality to which many another singer, however skilled, has had to resort to just to blast through all those notes.
BRAVA, BRAVA, BRAVA I am simply lost for words with this woman's inhuman ability to perform such a fabulous aria. I may not have been around, to her Farinelli 300 yeas ago, but I guess this is the closest I'll ever get.
No, Genaux is NOT the closest sound you can get to a castrato voice (see the postings below.) Listen to today's handful of natural male sopranos like Radu Marian, Randall Wong, Michael Maniaci, and even the superb falsetto countertenors like Andreas Scholl, Paul Esswood, and Philippe Jaroussky.
There is only one colour in the countertenor voice. It is a very interesting sound though. There was a time when I used to think that they were the natural choice for castrato roles, but now I think very seldom does it really enhance the music to use a countertenor, because their voice is capable of one sound only.If you take a mezzo soprano voice, you'll have a rainbow of colours. A countertenor has the disadvantage of not having that diversity at his disposal.
(For sc170) The very BEST of today's countertenors usually ARE the appropriate choice for alto castrati roles because of their male timbre and more pure tone and technique, even if somewhat one-dimensional. (You did not mention natural male sopranos.) Female voices, even with greater diversity, are NOT appropriate choices in most cases because today most have warbles that are too pronounced, distinctly feminine timber, and too often imprecise techniques for Baroque male roles.
(for sfkcbf) In the audience, I absolutely agree that when I SEE a man with such an unique voice especially someone like Daniels, Scholl or Jaroyussky, all of them fabulous singers,(these are the ones I saw live) the theatrical effect is much stronger opposed to seeing a woman in pants. BUT when I LISTEN to the same piece I prefer the sound of a top mezzo like Genaux, Larmore, Horne or Bartoli. To me it sounds so much rounder and warmer, may the technique be precise or imprecise.
"Everyone has his own taste." I do know that, for 100 years, addition of greater vibrato + a more casual approach to hitting notes has become the rule rather than the exception, listeners believing that the sound is "warmer." Such sound, however, is the antithesis of the ideal castrato voice as described in contemporary training texts and audience accounts. Although Bartoli has more vibrato than I prefer, she is very talented. Genaux, however, makes me grit my teeth in pain.
(for sfkcbf) I listened to a very poor quality recording of Alessandro Moreschi, of whom they say he was the last castrato, and aside the fact he was at the end of his carrier, and his voice was mostly gone, the way he hit the notes was very, very different then anything I had heard. If that is the ideal sound of a castrato then no one even comes close, male or female.
When young, Moreschi was known as "The Angel of Rome," so he must have had a fine voice; however, he it was not trained for opera, and he was no Farinelli. Also, the qulaity of vocal training had deteriorated in the 19th century, the style became more loose like popular singing, the Sistine no longer was known for quality singing, and singers then literally were shoved forward & backward to accomodate the mechanical method of recording.
ok, I don't know who taught her that technique, but they should be shot. That much manipulation of the sound with one's lips is, well apart from being an unattractive way to articulate, it's not a technique anyone else uses. Perhaps it's the only way she can articulate the filati so fast, but I'm not sure how well it will hold up over a long career. It seems like something she just...manufactured.
as a singer ill say its unbelieveble to do this, but i have to laugh when see what she is doing with her mouth.. its TOTALLY UNNECESSARY.. its just a bad habit..
She's got a wonderful talent, and although I think Farinelli would have a small heart attack if he heard it, I really enjoyed this :). Thanks for posting!
She's super skilled but what's with the mouth,WTF? She controls the coloratura runs by dicing the notes with her tight jaw. Weird and amazing, it forces me to close my eyes and she's a beautiful woman. BTW is there anything she sings that isn't just high speed coloratura? She is a great musician and totally an instrumentalist type singer than a singer singer, hahah..I'm so eloquent tonight.
Geneaux's CD "Arias for Farinelli" was the worst CD purchase I made. She may be OK in 19th-century, female roles; however, her voice is totally wrong to sing castrato arias. Her voice has a distinctly female timbre and a horrible warble, the antithesis of the castrato voice. I cannot listen long without pain.
Rene Jacob is insane to think her voice is the right choice.
Izzy, about what you wrote on the right, are you saying that the "sad face" and the moving of her mouth like that is a skill that helps her sing? Her appearance is quite interesting.
By the way, her singing is wonderful!!! This aria sounds like a very hard one to sing. Bartoli does a great job on it too.
Vivica Genaux is a truly superb artist. Check out her CD "Arias for Farinelli" which was was nominated for the 2002 Grammy Award for Best Classical Vocal Performance; it's sublime!
There is a better upload done by saitbey. For true fans of baroque arias this perfomance is the closest we'll ever get to how this aria should be sung. Well that is until a soprano can reproduce the rapid and nuanced trills this mezzo dishes out. BRAVA LA VIVICA!
ViVivica is one of the greatest singers in baroque repertoire. She has a wonderful technic specially when sings the coloratura parts. I only would like she could control better her vibrato in slower notes, but anyway, she a fantastic singer (if you don't believe, ask to great maestro rene jacobs...)
recorded in Flagey? Studio 4? :-)
Amazing!!! Congratulation!! Also to the orchestra who is excellent!!
phylladelphia1 1 month ago
Vivica sei bella è brava!! "me' faje muri' "
flegreo55 4 months ago
O - M - G.... this is too beautiful for words!
what an incredibly wonderful voice in a light body - and what a smashing smile in that tiny pause. I have never ever seen anything like that! Can't understand those lip movements but I perfectly understand each note of that sublime music.
THANK YOU so much for uploading this!
kikivolauvent1 7 months ago 2
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Vivica Genaux does a splendid job, but I'm afraid this is a castrato aria and it just feels rather odd to hear this being sung by a woman. I wish a countertenor would attempt to sing it, without cutting the long phrase at the end (starts at 5h43). It's meant to last for a good minute, sung in one breath.
HenryBakerHarvington 7 months ago
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HenryBakerHarvington 7 months ago
mezzo soprano?
hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho
taikoTHEtaiko 9 months ago
Look up the Program EPCASO. Her main teacher and she head off that program as well as many others well versed in bel canto style.
doeraybaby 10 months ago
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Don't compare an opera singer with pop stars please, they play in different leagues.
Miauriceful 10 months ago
Don't compare an opera singer with popo stars please, they play in different leagues.
Miauriceful 10 months ago 2
ESTO ES NACER PARA HACER LO QUE HAY QUE HACER......MI SOBRESALIENTE PARA ESTA CANTANTE..........Y VIVA....MARILINE HORNE.....EL RESTO ...YA SE VERA.....EL SIGLO ESTA ABIERTO PARA TODO TIPO DE ESPECTATIVAS
bellini7verdi 11 months ago
toll ! !!!!!!!!!!
IanBerger2010 1 year ago
tol!!!!!!!!!!!
IanBerger2010 1 year ago
Incredible!!! Bravo Vivica!!!
berlina88 1 year ago
Lovely...
screw you Mariah and Whitney..this lady has class...
mactopolis 1 year ago
красивый переливистый голос
FoxLight777 1 year ago
bravissimi. Biondi rocks.
maxtanz 1 year ago
impressive!
capezyo 1 year ago
What the hell does "botchy crying face" mean?
SlovenskyRaj 1 year ago
Agreed, FUCK YOU Celine Dion with due respect, but Cecilia Bartolli es wayyyyy Superior.
piontro 1 year ago
@piontro yea, that last part is definitely false.
ashmanls9 1 year ago
Comparing her with Celine Dion?!?!?! o_O lol This is not right! Their singing techniques are COMPLETELLY DIFFERENT!
SayukiTogashi 1 year ago
@SayukiTogashi Exactly! Celine Dion is not even opera! is that person kidding?!
andrika1990 1 year ago
Responding to GoBogi and 'Singingtruth76' on treatises mentioning the buccal movement, one can present the Treatise on Vocal Performance and Ornamentation' by Johann Adam Hiller, 1774. In this he records an observation of Carestini, the famous primo uomo of Scarlatti 1721 and Handel 1733-1740. Hiller states:
....if he simply wants to bring it out with his throat; some make this easier for themselves by moving their lower jaw. Carestini did this often and always with success.
nmedley 1 year ago
What a voice! Too bad she never sang Rossini with Rockwell Blake.
operadog2000 1 year ago
She was from Alaska! Yeehaw, haha! Loving the majesty of her voice!
Now to look for a Bel Canto teacher if there is any in Anchorage....
MangoPowuh 2 years ago 2
Has someone ever read anything about singing technique for coloratura in the golden age of italian Belcanto? Try to read Tosi treatise (1723) and to find whether there's any mention anywhere of any sort of buccal/jaw/whatelse movements for "passaggi" (coloratura). You will always find exactly the opposite. Simply her technique is not correct or at least not in keeping with any italian Belcanto principle.
singingtruth76 2 years ago
They mention it. They frown upon it. What we're discussing is whether or not the movements are intentional and used by her to produce the coloratura, which they are not.
Those Baroque treatise have invalidated the techniques used by most modern singer, even those such as Enrico Caruso. Baroque treatise also invalidate the use of continuous vibrato. The italians used dynamic pressure which allowed them to insert vibrato on demand/discresionarily.
Thanks, though :P
GoBogi 2 years ago
GoBogi, thanks for the information. I had no idea the movements of her jaw were unconscious and not related to her production of coloratura. I had the privelege of attending her recital in São Paulo, Brazil (I flew 1.200 km to see her!) and she was amazing. Most people there had never seen or heard of her, and the talk was about her jaw movements...
guiradobrasil 1 year ago
The Baroque singers used completely different methods of breath control than we use today. They also articulated differently than many/most singers did today.
What people do today is more similar to French Diaphramic articulation as opposed to Italian throat articulation. The fact that the breath control was different and they articulated in the throat is what allowed them to use vibrato "on demand": they varied the pressue and didn't rely on the ever-present "balance" like current singers.
GoBogi 2 years ago
The French articulated with the diaphram, so they couldn't really flunctuate the pressue levels like the Italian singers. The result was that they tended to use a continuous vibrato in their singing.
The italians frowned at that. Vibrato was an ornament, like a trill, mordent, messa voce, etc. It was used at discression, and they likened continuous vibrato to the bleating of a goat, among other things. Bottom Line: Different Eras, Different Values. Vivica is as HIP as 1 can see today :(
GoBogi 2 years ago
@singingtruth76 and also GoBogi
Thank you both for posting informed comments highlighting major differences in required Baroque vocal technique vs. Vivica's performance. So many singers today seem oblvious to the fact that their voices and techniques are contrary to what is required for an authentic Baroque, castrato sound.
sfkcbf 1 year ago
I'm not really convinced that the technique she is showing in this video for the coloraturas is correct and can last long... she's good but she should also keep good for many years!
But Vivica Genaux seems to be an intelligent singer and I hope she works on the flaws of her technique.
P.S.: I had the pleasure to see her singing live (in another Biondi/Vivaldi production) and I can assure you that she's as stunning (both physically and vocally!) as in this video, if not more!
perles75 2 years ago
That's because you don't know what you're talking about (not to be mean, but no other way to say it).
The jaw movements do not alter her sound, and it's not a technique. She doesn't do it conciously, and she has sought professional opinion of it. She says it happens, and no one can explain why.
She does not do it to produce the coloratura, and the jaw movements often do not match the pattern of sounds that she is emitting.
GoBogi 2 years ago 4
let's hope so...
(btw, when you say that the jaw movements do not match the pattern of sounds you mean in the syncred video? here of course they don't match, they are out of synch)
perles75 2 years ago
No, I mean they are somewhat out of sync in many places even when the video is in sync with the sound.
Why don't you buy it to see for yourself?
There is an in sync version on YouTube, BTW, last I checked.
GoBogi 2 years ago
Did you read anything that I wrote? She has spoken about her buccal (i.e. facial/jaw) movements in more than one interview. That is not "technique," that is movement that she cannot consciously control, start, stop, whatever...
And it's lasted long enough, it seems...
GoBogi 2 years ago
that would be much better if the video and the soundtrack were put together properly. there s a slight time difference between both. such a shame !!!
frenchviewer1994 2 years ago
semplicemente fantastica una delle migliori
luigipava 2 years ago
i am not used to this kind of singing...it did not sound good to me ...but what do i know.?...is it good to one who does listen to this kind of singing?can someone tell me
ukgirlonce 2 years ago
what do you mean by "this kind of singing"?
The way she articulates the melismi?
eradesso 2 years ago
Guau, with Biondi!?
esaumanzano 2 years ago
Bello e bella da morire !
prismoso 2 years ago
Lots of aspirate 'H' sounds. I was under the impression that this was not generally well-excepted?
Anyone can comment/reply on that? I'm generally interested.
GoBogi 2 years ago
That is partially true. The connection of notes with that technique isn't regarded at as correct/appropriate neither stylistically nor technically.
Nevertheless Baroque music does tolerate less "tight" legato than other repertoires.
In the melismi Vivica has a better legato and less intrusive H sound than say Bartoli who is the epitome of how you shouldn't sing these florid pieces because they result all staccati.
Marylin Horne was another heavy "H"er, Ewa Podles is softer like Vivica
eradesso 2 years ago 15
Thanks for your educational response.
GoBogi 2 years ago
I'm gonna go on a limb and state the obvious: This aria is hard as hell to sing.
What I noticed is that they tend to use a glotal attack to the melismas. When she should be using the vowel 'a' (sounded ah) on the note, she tends to sing 'ha' instead. I think she does this because her breath support isn't really great enough to sing these arias "purely" (Castrati were known for their superhuman breath support and capacity).
I want to hear this sung without the glottal attacks!!!
GoBogi 2 years ago 2
Vivica doesn't really have breath support problems or else she wouldn't be able to cope with the tempi without breaking the fraseggio.
The sound is abit in the larynx in the fast passages between the lower and higher registers but she doesn't get abusively glottal as Kasarova does.
this is a brutal aria and just to hear her nail the trills so perfectly..whoa
I'd find it amusing to hear Bartoli sing this. She carefully avoided it despite having sung Sposa son disprezzata and anhce il Mar.
eradesso 2 years ago 3
A singer with inadequate breath support couldn't begin to tackle these long phrases. I don't hear any evidence of hard glottal attacks or repeated aspiration during the melisma. She is singing on the edges of her folds - the only way a singer could achieve this kind of speed & tonal accuracy. Hard glottal attacks would involve either excessive subglottal pressure or extraneous muscular activity in the vocalis. In either instance, there is no way she'd be able to achieve this kind of sound.
TJWTNR 1 year ago 4
Likewise, repeated aspiration during a melisma would not allow for a hard glottal attack. One cannot aspirate [h] while the vocal folds are closed. It's impossible. Therefore, there is no chance of her using hard glottal attacks and repeated aspirated [h] at the same time. Plus, there is absolutely no way a singer with, as you claim, inadequate breath support, who uses hard glottal attacks AND excessive aspiration, could sustain such long phrasing. It's basic physiology.
TJWTNR 1 year ago 5
Geneaux and Biondi?? I'm in Heaven!!!
montinatonda 2 years ago 3
What a Charming voice came thru angel throat by Vivica Genaux's,,the perfromance between her throat and whole Orchestra so great and strong that called perfect "show"
whomakemefeel 2 years ago 2
Porca troia! Each note is as clear as an instrument... Amazing :-0
zonaras83 2 years ago 2
amazing
torino1706 2 years ago
If the lip movement is a harmless idiosyncrasy, then who cares? What's scary is if she uses the lip movement to mimic the sound of real coloratura--that's a technique that won't last long.
forallyouknow 2 years ago 2
beautifull!!!!!!!!!!!!
modigliani1964 2 years ago
È troppo bel quel volto
per non doverlo amar.
Amor ne gli occhi accolto
vi fa del guardo un fulmine
per arder, e piagar.
giovanbattistadraghi 2 years ago
oh my gosh, the lip thing is interesting to watch, but what a voice..she's an animal
thanks for posting!
Vladarama 2 years ago
Wonderful performance- it is obvious that the singing and vocals are out of sync.
JOHN
65attila 2 years ago
just brill eh
goodtimetone 2 years ago
Beautiful coloratura and voice
fanbaroque 3 years ago
Lips movement apart, she's an amazing instrument. A bit like Callas or Bartoli: you know it's her the moment you heard the tone. At least true coloratura isn't dying.
merefoix 3 years ago 2
the pictures don´t fit to the sound, don´t they?
tastibasti 3 years ago
sublime !!
fuck you celine dion !!
suzanneramdane 3 years ago 15
hahaha! mais que vient faire ici Céline Dion?!
Cosifantuttee 1 year ago
@suzanneramdane
ROTHFLMAO! Vivi is a muse right here. Her voice is so perfectly set off by Europa galante's crispness. mme. Genaux is also better looking, and appears to have a totally unpretentious personality,
Oh yeah, and the voice? It's like comparing Freddie Mercury with David Hasselhoff. Different worlds.
xyaqua 1 year ago
@suzanneramdane Well,yes,fuck her.
TilkiSaloOstalos 1 year ago
magnifique, fuck you andréa botitcelli ...
suzanneramdane 3 years ago
suzanneramdane (2 months ago)
fuck you andréa botitcelli ...
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Is you native language {Obscene} or are you just a nasty fool?
65attila 2 years ago
No way... This is amazing. I mean, now I undestand why Farinelli was such a prodigy, this is so f$%&/ difficult to sing, and Genaux makes it very well.
EdiEllerymissing 3 years ago 4
@EdiEllerymissing I also sometimes wonder what were Farinelli's facial expressions when he sang:) Just out of curiosity. (I"m not hinting at anything about Genaux)
andrika1990 1 year ago
I like her since I ve bought her first record (was attracted for first only by the wonderful name Vivica Genaux!!) and after listening to her great aducated and well trained voice and musicianship I felt in love! Wish her all the best ...and I hope that she will win to be the favorite MEZZOSOPRANO for belcanto -and not this shrill crazy small voiced and boring Bartoli (Bartoli do only airy games with her voice like an chicken) BRAAAAAAAVA VIVICA!!!!!
Heraopera 3 years ago
I completely agree with vonDali. Dear Vivica, try to abandon your singing bad habits...before it's too late. The voice will not last long time if you sing that way. Relax and let the air floating, you'll see: singing will be no more so difficult!
ilpremio2008 3 years ago
I think my jaw and face would hurt if I sang like that. She often has such a lovely tone though.
coloraturacontralto 3 years ago
hahaha! Shit!!! With rapid mouth movement (va,va,va,va,va,va) couldn't be created No coloraturas! No, under no circumstances! It's wrong technique! It's no any technique!
haha she can sing like no other...really :)
vonDali 3 years ago
the pictures don´t fit to the music, but may be she tries to underline the movement from her lipps (i also know that a coloratura comes from below and not from the lipps but it´s her kind of interpretation, like an arm movement from a great pianist, like glenn gould, who made a lot unnessesary movements)it depends at last only on what you can hear and you can realize. i think she´s quite good.
tastibasti 3 years ago
i dont know if i would say that glenn gould's movements were unnecessary because without them he would not have played as well as he did, they were necessary to him. just because they dont make sense to anyone other than the artist does not make them superfluous.
chroboe 3 years ago
a sort of a miracle - at last, someone able to make this music greatly.
aeneas0troy 3 years ago 2
This kind of... restores my faith in humans. (And no, I can't speak english.) I've listened to her whenever I feel that homo sapiens has nothing to offer anymore :-D especially since I am such a depressing example myself XD Sheeeesh, some things just are more beautiful than most beautiful things can ever hope to be.
InquisitiveSphinx 3 years ago 6
The ornamentation is different - and in my opinion far superior - to that on her CD "Arias for Farinelli". I think Rene Jacobs holds her down. I agree with sfkcbf that Genaux's feminine timbre makes Farinelli obsessives like me long to hear Qual Guerriero sung by a man, but who is there who can do it? The only version I have heard is Angelo Manzotti, which is laughable.
broschette 3 years ago 2
Whoa that singing is great.
Haha the lips fluttering was ... interesting.
Satirike 3 years ago
incredibile omogeneità di registro,intonazione,gusto e "frase cantata" perfetti,agilità "fiorite" e "colorate" in maniera deliziosa..una grande artista..una pura voce di mezzosoprano acuto barocco..l'ho anche vista dal vivo e conosciuta..persona deliziosa e dal vivo ancora + brava..
farinelli84 3 years ago
wow!!! increible
corrector14 3 years ago
oh my god!! Amazing!!O_O but I don't like the way that she move her lips...Is it good?! Cecilia Bartoli doesn't do it..mah
FraLaFra90 3 years ago
cecilia bartoli doesn't do it because she doesn't sing farinelli. if she had to, she would do this with her lips. agility is an art and farinelli was apparently her god.
doctormantell 3 years ago
ok..thank you for the answer!:)
FraLaFra90 3 years ago
YIKES!!!! that is some serious singing!!!! more, more, more, more!!!!!
alejandra379 3 years ago
Yes, I also would have enjoyed hearing Farinelli singing this. Vivica's voice has a very pronounced tremelo and obvious feminine timbre, which to me sounds very odd singing Baroque, castrati arias.
sfkcbf 3 years ago
how much I would love to have heard farinelli sing this aria..
trallallero123 3 years ago
Brava Vivica!
joeroma80 3 years ago
A me mi piace huarache el Farinelli bene ri ti harto !!!
artconva 3 years ago
Everytime I view this video I think what an incredible voice. What a gift to sing like an angel. Vivica moves me - she is a stupendous entertainer - a voice one can hear again and again. How lucky we are to share her talents on utube.
seanl125 3 years ago 5
I have the same opinion. We are talking about art!
gloriain9 3 years ago
She is just great,.... I apologise to every Mr. know it all, that is present here,.. :-)
fromheretoglory 3 years ago
Oh, I agree that Vivica's sound and production and coloratura are superior to Bartoli's, and her musicianship is equal if not higher than hers. I am quite fond of her.
The only thing that distracts me is the flapping lip... it's disconcerting.
Merryjest 3 years ago
good ear goldenawakenibg not many people note that.but back in the day composer like Handel,
vivaldi eta..used the same song writers in a way to out do each other"same words" new music.but to note Riccardo Broschi song came out before vivaldi's did.evern Verdi,Mozart, and puccini all whet to war over opera writers
look for manon lescaunt and othello.both good operas but there are two of them find both works and u'll see what im takin about
chaz29boy 3 years ago
I don't know why but this song sounds awfully like "Son qual nave ch'agitata"(another aria by Riccardo Broschi written for Farninelli) in some parts. 3:26, 5:20 are some examples.
Anyways, I still think its a very beautiful (and ornate, of course) piece.
GoldenAwakening 4 years ago
ich muss sagen, diese arie hat außer virtuosen-kram und koloraturen nix zu bieten ... das wird einem irgendwann zu viel
trotzdem hat sie eine tolle technik und stimme: hut ab, wer so etwas singen kann!
asle27887 4 years ago
genaux vs. bartoli. bartoli wins by a longshot. sorry to say. but genaux technique is straining and her voice is a bit to soft and quiet for this type of trumpet-like coloratura arias.
WELL IT'S ONLY MY OPINION!
opinion schminion, viveca still has a VERY beautiful voice! Excellent!
thanks for the video clip!
rullstensas 4 years ago 2
my opinion it's the same, bartoli is better than genaux
ricky3diaz 4 years ago
I don't think these two should really be compared. It's a different type of voice, different ball game. I find Vivica's voice quite clear even on the runs. She's doing an excellent job. Cecilia's been at it longer, don't forget. She said that when she was nine, she used to sing her younger sister to sleep in the car. I doubt Vivca was born then (but I'll google her to make sure).
contessabrilliante 3 years ago
Of course of course, but the technique still! We wouldn't want Genaux to loose her voice?
But I still think they should be compared, that is how you make great musicians!
But you are right in many ways.
rullstensas 3 years ago
Thanks.
contessabrilliante 3 years ago
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BWV1906 3 years ago
Vivica Genaux is at least physically one.
But if you love both - what to do.
schattensand 3 years ago
I learned of m. Genaux via Fabio Biondi's Europa Galante redux of La Santissima Trinita. M Biondi is to the violin what Vivica is to the voice. Then raise that to the nth degree. I am convinced we are gifted with performance that would stun even Allesando Scarlatti, the father of the the father of modern keyboard technique.
vivica genaux is a true master non parallel. Such a sweety, socially gentile, intelligent, gifted, and passionate in voce, we will always love you Vivi!
xyaqua 4 years ago
That was amazing. I sat spellbound listening to her incredible voice. I would love to see her live on stage. Thanks for posting the vid!
Antspirit25 4 years ago
Who gives a rat's ass about whether she moves her lips and jaw? Go ahead and close your eyes if you can't get past it. Better yet, stay home and let somebody who appreciates this outstanding artist have your seat.
atlanticdad 4 years ago 5
Vivica is great , but it's not healthy to move the jaw .. and we want to hear her for many years...
CauldronBard 4 years ago
How does one expect to actually create full resonance without opening the mouth, and further, how is it possible to open the mouth without moving the jaw? I'm so tired of overcritical postings by people who don't know any better.
stormstryk 4 years ago
youtube don't aloud links so try to check voiceteatcher dot kom , articles section. shaking jaw and tongue .
I repeat i like vivica pretty much, she's an exciting singer. but i wish to hear her for many years, and not for a decade...
CauldronBard 4 years ago
Vocal techniques can get very controversial over what is correct and what isn't.
Roscieto 4 years ago
One could way "We just have to wait and see". The frightening possibility is that she MIGHT not be singing well then. I hope she is, though, and that her technique is solid enough to bypass the effects of these 'ticks'
Merryjest 4 years ago
i've just listened to vivica genaux singing this terrific aria in a semi-staged production of the opera in venice, italy....and her singing is hair-rising indeed! no tricks at all: the agility of her singing is breath-taking and she doesn't lost any note in producing the music. plus her temper which is aggressive and commanding on the stage....and she is beautiful too! great artrist!
brividokaldo 4 years ago 3
I flew as well to Venice last week-end to see Vivica live. It was absolutely incredible, amazing, breathtaking ... hearing this showpiece of speed and vocal agility.
I 100% agree, her temper on stage, her appearance - just fascinating. What an artist!!
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prokkets 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Bartoli is a much greater artist. Her voice has more colours than ms. Genauxs monoton timbre.
dannymaestro 4 years ago
Why does one HAVE to start comparing one to the other, rather than focus on the artist on display here?..... unless it's so terribly important to show one's 'knowledge' of others' work. Yawn.... Not everything needs to be compared at nauseum.
victrola2007 4 years ago 3
Well said Victrola
lizbrenneru 4 years ago
I agree. When everyone starts comparing, that's when it gets boring, old, and uninteresting.
Roscieto 4 years ago
she's amazing, the way she can do those coloraturas from hell
bravissima
Heartlessiceboy 4 years ago
Este video me hace amar la ópera...aunque sea un amor platónico. Gracias.
francament 4 years ago
I just purchase the Vivica Genaux album "Aria fûr Farinelli", where it's possible to here a previous version of Qual Guerriero. I can say that this Jasabe version is better. Enjoy !
ogechter 4 years ago
I don't know how close Vivica Geneaoux to castrato voice, but her performance is astonishing! Even playing this part by violine is hard.
This is the closest vocal technic to "Perfect" I've ever heard!
znbr1 4 years ago
厉害，，，，，
guapian 4 years ago
La perfección existe...demostrado :)
sobreagudos 4 years ago 2
Gracias mil por compartir esta MARAVILLA!!!!
macielnegrete 4 years ago
this is very interesting...ive never seen any singer do this with their face. altho her sound is spectacular. cant look at her face tho and those insane lips, ashame cause shes pretty!
europelove 4 years ago
I love that voice.. so technicaly perfect! I already knew Vivica,s performances, but to hear her is always peaceful.
roby1878to 4 years ago
I've been working with Vivica last week in San Sebastian in the opera Ottavia restituita al trono (Scarlatti).
She's a great singer and a better person.
krum2002 4 years ago
Yes... I don't think it matters how you work your face muscles, so long as the product is unbelievable. Which it is.
PeridotLustre 4 years ago
Magnificent voice - those who don't like her breathing technique - how many CD's have you sold? It is so easy to sit back with the privacy of your computer and be a critic. Be real she is beyond incredible - could you imagine having a fraction of her talent - probably not. That is why she sells out entire concert halls and you are posting negative comments here.
seanl125 4 years ago
seanl125, I couldn't agree with you more. Thanks for putting it into such nice words. Now, for those who'd like to check a better upload of this very clip in youtube before purchasing the DVD, there's one by listener "saitbey" that's not out-of-synch.
soundfond 4 years ago
la cagó =O
koteypunto 4 years ago
Genaux SINGS beautifully, but that chipmunk lip thing just drives me nuts. I have never seen anyone else use such a technique while singing melismatic passages and trills. Although I love to hear the results, I can't bear watching it. Get the Bajazet CD set that contains this DVD so you at least don't have to put up with the lack of coordination between the audio/visual here. Still among more interesting posts. Thanks.
SCVoice 4 years ago
Absolutely amazing.. such a beautiful voice! And such a delightful, sensuous singer.. beautiful woman. But I am the only one here who noticed that the video and soundtrack don't match??
ejerunes 4 years ago
very good
LAGIOSENNI 4 years ago
i saw her in dallas as rosina
spaniarddamnit 4 years ago
I am a Bartoli fan but this is good. I would love to have heard Farinelli sing this :-)
JohnmMay 4 years ago
Arrgh I am going to see her live in July!!!
sluttyRuth 4 years ago
Grande maestro Fabio Biondi e Europa Galante siete fantastici!!
caritas83 4 years ago
Izzyl,
I must correct your contention that "this aria was written for Farinelli (Carlo Broschi) by his brother Riccardo Broschi".
While it is true that Riccardo Broschi wrote for his brother and that his music can be heard in the famous movie after his stage name, this aria is not a part of Broschi's repertoire.
I assure you that the Aria: Qual gurriero in campo armato, sung here by the lovely Vivica Genaux, was composed by Antonio Vivaldi and is part of his opera Bajazet.
ckrusson 4 years ago
Yes! Very very true indeed! Spoken as a true scholar. You did your assignment/reasearch very well. (Smiles)
macmusikpro 4 years ago
She is magnificent..I am speechless... - As for the composer it was in fact Broschi, Vivaldi loved it enough to incorporate it into his Bajazet.
ss1933 4 years ago
Wow, ss1933... I should never take things for their face value. You are absolutely correct! Vivaldi did have his soprano Margherita Giacomazzi sing two arias known from Farinelli's repertoire written by Broschi in an attempt to combat the "reign of the castrati" in his opera Bajazet, something which should be less ambiguous than it is I am sure. Thank you for encouraging my further research of this topic! :)
ckrusson 4 years ago
Bajazet was indeed composed by Vivaldi but this aria, specifically, was composed by Riccardo Broschi. His intention was to attract audience by including in Bajazet known works by other artists.
MezzosRule 4 years ago
The lip oscillation is very interesting to me. Obviously, it works bc her coloratura is awe inspiring. Anyone want to give insight into this technique?
DvaGurl 4 years ago
But the sound and the video is not played at the same timing..
I love Vivica!!!
Prissie27 4 years ago
Yes, Geneaux probably is very good for female roles.
She should not be tempted again to depart from them.
sfkcbf 4 years ago
(for sfkcbf)I disagree as far as holding back from temptation goes, although I appreciate the perversely subtle way in which you expressed this rather wicked remark.
scl70 4 years ago
jajajaja, yes I agree
compay2407 4 years ago
Genaux's coloratura is astonishing: accurate and clean, every note clearly audible, with none of the machine-gun quality to which many another singer, however skilled, has had to resort to just to blast through all those notes.
joliewaves 4 years ago
BRAVA, BRAVA, BRAVA I am simply lost for words with this woman's inhuman ability to perform such a fabulous aria. I may not have been around, to her Farinelli 300 yeas ago, but I guess this is the closest I'll ever get.
scl70 4 years ago
No, Genaux is NOT the closest sound you can get to a castrato voice (see the postings below.) Listen to today's handful of natural male sopranos like Radu Marian, Randall Wong, Michael Maniaci, and even the superb falsetto countertenors like Andreas Scholl, Paul Esswood, and Philippe Jaroussky.
sfkcbf 4 years ago
There is only one colour in the countertenor voice. It is a very interesting sound though. There was a time when I used to think that they were the natural choice for castrato roles, but now I think very seldom does it really enhance the music to use a countertenor, because their voice is capable of one sound only.If you take a mezzo soprano voice, you'll have a rainbow of colours. A countertenor has the disadvantage of not having that diversity at his disposal.
scl70 4 years ago
(For sc170) The very BEST of today's countertenors usually ARE the appropriate choice for alto castrati roles because of their male timbre and more pure tone and technique, even if somewhat one-dimensional. (You did not mention natural male sopranos.) Female voices, even with greater diversity, are NOT appropriate choices in most cases because today most have warbles that are too pronounced, distinctly feminine timber, and too often imprecise techniques for Baroque male roles.
sfkcbf 4 years ago
(for sfkcbf) In the audience, I absolutely agree that when I SEE a man with such an unique voice especially someone like Daniels, Scholl or Jaroyussky, all of them fabulous singers,(these are the ones I saw live) the theatrical effect is much stronger opposed to seeing a woman in pants. BUT when I LISTEN to the same piece I prefer the sound of a top mezzo like Genaux, Larmore, Horne or Bartoli. To me it sounds so much rounder and warmer, may the technique be precise or imprecise.
scl70 4 years ago
"Everyone has his own taste." I do know that, for 100 years, addition of greater vibrato + a more casual approach to hitting notes has become the rule rather than the exception, listeners believing that the sound is "warmer." Such sound, however, is the antithesis of the ideal castrato voice as described in contemporary training texts and audience accounts. Although Bartoli has more vibrato than I prefer, she is very talented. Genaux, however, makes me grit my teeth in pain.
sfkcbf 4 years ago
(for sfkcbf) I listened to a very poor quality recording of Alessandro Moreschi, of whom they say he was the last castrato, and aside the fact he was at the end of his carrier, and his voice was mostly gone, the way he hit the notes was very, very different then anything I had heard. If that is the ideal sound of a castrato then no one even comes close, male or female.
scl70 4 years ago
When young, Moreschi was known as "The Angel of Rome," so he must have had a fine voice; however, he it was not trained for opera, and he was no Farinelli. Also, the qulaity of vocal training had deteriorated in the 19th century, the style became more loose like popular singing, the Sistine no longer was known for quality singing, and singers then literally were shoved forward & backward to accomodate the mechanical method of recording.
sfkcbf 4 years ago
ok, I don't know who taught her that technique, but they should be shot. That much manipulation of the sound with one's lips is, well apart from being an unattractive way to articulate, it's not a technique anyone else uses. Perhaps it's the only way she can articulate the filati so fast, but I'm not sure how well it will hold up over a long career. It seems like something she just...manufactured.
BeauTenor 4 years ago
as a singer ill say its unbelieveble to do this, but i have to laugh when see what she is doing with her mouth.. its TOTALLY UNNECESSARY.. its just a bad habit..
kimerikke 4 years ago
Yep!Absolutelly!
FloriaTosca85 4 years ago
la favorita de felipe IV, que se la tenia que cantar farinelli, todas las noches, QUE RESIGNACION....
lovercraft 4 years ago
She's got a wonderful talent, and although I think Farinelli would have a small heart attack if he heard it, I really enjoyed this :). Thanks for posting!
crazyblonde0 4 years ago
XDDD How hilkarious! Pray tell why you say that?
Roscieto 4 years ago
someone unplug her please!
riceey 4 years ago
She's super skilled but what's with the mouth,WTF? She controls the coloratura runs by dicing the notes with her tight jaw. Weird and amazing, it forces me to close my eyes and she's a beautiful woman. BTW is there anything she sings that isn't just high speed coloratura? She is a great musician and totally an instrumentalist type singer than a singer singer, hahah..I'm so eloquent tonight.
bosancherosi 4 years ago
Geneaux's CD "Arias for Farinelli" was the worst CD purchase I made. She may be OK in 19th-century, female roles; however, her voice is totally wrong to sing castrato arias. Her voice has a distinctly female timbre and a horrible warble, the antithesis of the castrato voice. I cannot listen long without pain.
Rene Jacob is insane to think her voice is the right choice.
sfkcbf 4 years ago
Izzy, about what you wrote on the right, are you saying that the "sad face" and the moving of her mouth like that is a skill that helps her sing? Her appearance is quite interesting.
By the way, her singing is wonderful!!! This aria sounds like a very hard one to sing. Bartoli does a great job on it too.
operagirl81 5 years ago
such skill and accuracy! her coloratura technic raises the hair on my arms!
Sabiano 5 years ago
Vivica Genaux is a truly superb artist. Check out her CD "Arias for Farinelli" which was was nominated for the 2002 Grammy Award for Best Classical Vocal Performance; it's sublime!
sergioincyberspace 5 years ago
There is a better upload done by saitbey. For true fans of baroque arias this perfomance is the closest we'll ever get to how this aria should be sung. Well that is until a soprano can reproduce the rapid and nuanced trills this mezzo dishes out. BRAVA LA VIVICA!
joliewaves 5 years ago
My god..is she on LSD??? i would not use the word horrible, perhaps creepy.
natetabor 5 years ago
She has a good coloratura technic, but her voice is not particullary beautiful.
niklausse 5 years ago
Beleza, only this beleza!
Belleza , no le busquen la quinta pata al gato, esto es para sentir, disfrutar y callarse!!!!
drjotais 5 years ago
ViVivica is one of the greatest singers in baroque repertoire. She has a wonderful technic specially when sings the coloratura parts. I only would like she could control better her vibrato in slower notes, but anyway, she a fantastic singer (if you don't believe, ask to great maestro rene jacobs...)
condeceprano 5 years ago