Metheny is beyond a genius! 7seven Youtube dislikes are so lame. I'd rather do what he's doing right here in this video then have all of Billy Gate$ money. Just me though
We all know that Pat is an exceptional musician and player. As good as he is, I refuse to give up and take up knitting................maybe I'll learn the banjo instead!
i made a comment on one of pats lessons downloads about wes montgomerys i wish i knew and the closing seconds - one of pats tunes more recent ones at last youre here off of day trip reminds me alot of wes montgomery and jim hall intertwined probably more wes though at last youre here a slick tune, also gilad hekselman an up and coming jazz guitarist - great tune the summer of laughs and tears, unbelievable gilad on the flip side reminds me of an ecclectic mix of pat and john abercrombie
Questo è un pazzo furioso!! L'ho visto in concerto, è incredibilmente bravo e non sbaglia mai!! Fenomeno che però ha passato anni a studiare ore ed ore!!! Grandissimo!
I learned a lot from this natural exercises. It forced mi to practice triads and arpeggios only with th 7ths. This allows me to go faster from pointa A to B , covering a wide range from low to hi notes. It does give me a sound Classic - Like, I can use pure, or mixed along with the "beebop stuff". I think that´s the point of the exercise. I spent months researching this Philosofy. And today I still warm up with triads going up in fourths, it´s simple but amasing!!!Thanks
@Hucho I think that is to try to create a more "classic-like" phrasing. These´s a lot of majos and minor triada as well as Maj7 Dominant7, diminished anr half- diminished aréggios going along the neck . A usefull jumping in the circle of fourths of the stuff we are practicing. Tnen he shows hes special triad treatment with the notes in opened voicing , with rut on babb then 3rd , then 4th, so bass. I mean there´s a lot of thimgs you can do with that . Even warm up!!!It Has no order but teaches..
@enjazz quando inserisco il link mi da errore....cmq basta aggiungere le tre w all'indirizzo axemagazine.it. è il sito della rivista per chitarristi axe...
@frablu3s non riesco a mettere il link al sito. se lo metto mi da errore e non mi fa postare il messaggio. sai aiutarmi? cmq il sito è "axemagazine.it" , sezione "video" categoria "a scuola da youtube". ciao :))
This serves as an excellent reminder that tools necessary to be a virtuosic jazz improvisor of the first order (a la Pat) are the same for anyone, and include a thorough knowledge, understanding, and command of major and minor scales, and arpeggios, and how they relate to each other; as well as technical command of one's instrument,; and the ability to play in time.
"Play arpeggios, scales etc, but while you have to understand them in a mechanical way, avoid playing them in a mechanical way - never play the same thing in the same way.
He [Metheny] basically starts with an arpeggio, then starts to modulate it in a way that he's never done before.
This serves as an exercise that gives you an understanding of the entire instrument, while at the same time, you warm up."
can anyone tell me what happens before this? What does Pat tell us about "starting a compositional effort" :) ? I'm really curious.. and well.. pretty much to lazy to scroll down all these comments to see if the question has allready been asked :-P but hey, aren't we all?
@Bjazz yea! absolutely! If I wanted to hear that I would write a bunch of arpeggios in a software program with only midi and press the play button at 300 BPM.
@Armony89 ma veramente suono si metal...ma studio e suono jazz,pop,soul ecc...il mondo è bello perché è vario ... e la musica non può essere da meno...
there is some direction to it, he's arpeggiating his way through the changes and then in intervals and then mixing it all up creatively. the same way that an athlete would spend time studying the track they were about to race. gotta know all your paths before you can be free to wander around freely and without fear of getting lost!
he has a lot of music informacion on his head, he can mix sacles while he is playing, he is one of the best guistarrists in the world i think , because of his capacity of composition
Did you notice that these ideas don't really come up in his solos often? He's a great soloist partly because he never sounds like he's tossing out well rehearsed harmonic devices in advance. I've been trying to get Slonimsky vocabulary into my solos for a while, but it isn't easy to work things in without it sounding stiff or contrived.
il seminario si è tenuto a Ravenna, mi pare circa 6 anni fa, per tre giorni cosecutivi...non credo però esistano video didattici se non quelli "rubati" con il telefono...
la cosa spaventosa è che si stava semplicemente scaldando...
il video è strepitoso e da l' idea della bravura e delle capacità del grande Pat
Vorrei sapere quando e dove è stato tenuto il seminario
é percaso disponibile qualche altro video relativo a quella occasione oppure delle dispense che possano ampliare la conoscenza musicale di noi poveri mortali ???
Why don't you start to build up scales and arpeggios? Ain't that difficult... BUT, his touch renders anything coming out of his hands beatiful and meaningful.
even though it's "only" a warmup and a lot of arpeggios and other exercises, it's it like he makes music out of it as he goes along ... it sounds so beautiful ! i just lied down and closed my eyes last night and listened through this a couple of times... gives me a ton of new inspiration for practicing hard
el tio pat ta mas loco k una cabra., una vez estaba en el festival de jazz fde montreux hablando con un entrevistador y de pronto el tio se subio repentinamente a un arbol , jajajaja
I would bet all he does is improvised, just going over (great) patterns he obviously set up before. There's some major scales, triads, some maj 7 arpeggios, and nice ideas of changes all the way through, but not any "piece".
Pat is just fekkin great ! Now for youtube commenters, when you'll reach this level you can talk, until then shut the f*** up and listen to the masters.
yagamei, in clss it´s all about practically showing what you said before;-) and you have to admit, that the 'bach-improv' starting 3.35 or so is just outstanding
.... And not to mention that Classical music envokes MUCH discipline as where Jazz envokes SPIRIT. So many of the master balance the two by practicing with a classical ethic and playing with the improvised spirit of jazz. Plus... he IS in Italy I believe.
I am sorry but pardon the lack of euphemism: for the most part you are full of shit. Interpretative nuances in classical music may be more subtle, but are as just as broad- with the exception of improvising melodies and chords, though classical music utilizes improvisation as well- as in jazz. Jazz musicians must make use of dynamics, tone colouring, articulation, and inflection. Classical musicians can improvise these.
jazz is something you must have in mind the first day you become a player that can choose between both extreme... inventing music or writing music or reading others music is all a series of great accomplishment but there is a choise to make and that choice comes with great reasponsabilities...
I'm not quite sure you understand. I did not state in any way, a bias for either genre. "Magirecords2004" stated that to him/her it sounded 'classical'. I replied giving input as to why it may sound that way to him/her in the hopes that it will help them. You on the other hand seem to be looking for an argument. Would you like to discuss the theory of relativivity while we're at? Stop making people feel bad just to make yourself feel good.
I think he is playing the arpeggio of the Emin7(b5) chord (locrian), but starts from the b5 which is a Bb. So the secuence is Bb - D - E - G - Bb - D - E .. etc..
they're just arps and a couple of other little warm-up things. Exercises, really. I'm kinda disappointed this video doesn't showcase more of him talking and actually playing things that demonstrate what he says.
Excellent playing. Don't worry about commenting on whether he's playing clean and technical. What is the Bach piece he's paraphrasing? Is it from the Well Tempered Clavier or Bach Violin Sonatas perhaps? He's definitely doing things around the cycle, which is a practice method many jazz players use. He starts that way with Major 7th arpegios. Very inspiring.
Technic is nothing compared with his music,..that's the most important, and at that point he doesn't fail, his music is brilliant. There are lots of technically better guitarists than Pat, but only one Metheny,...talent is the main key to success.
I am very familiar w/ PM and his work. (We love to listen to "Gathering Sky" when it's about to rain.) But the comparison to Bach when his playing was technically lacking, was a bit of a stretch. I showed my wife (she is a classically trained pianist.) She couldn't believe the mistakes. Yes, Metheny plays the pick backwards because when he started out he could only find thin picks, so he played by picking with the fatter part.
Who would critique a person for their technical precision while they're warming up?
He's a Master. Plain and simple. If there is ever such a thing. This spans musical genres and instruments and eons. There is no shortfall that is less than the "human nature" of us all.
What do you know about Bach's technique anyway... WTF! How could someone be so stupid as to compare?
There are tons of outstanding "technically proficient" guitarists and other musicians here. There's only one Metheny
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I'm sorry, but his technique is lacking. I don't mean to make folks mad, but he is making some serious mistakes. Someone like Lee Ritenour is much more technically precise.
Uhm, I think you should expect a lot of angry replies... Pat is not technically precise, everybody who loves him knows. He is also always a bit late on the beat, and he even holds the pick backwards! So what, he has given us some of the most beautiful music in history. Sorry for Lee Ritenour and all the others, who are great, but nobody can be compared to Pat, simply. Please listen to some of his masterpieces for some time, then come back.
technique has its limitations musically, it can't beat compositional artistry which pat metheny is a master at. you can possess a lot of fancy scales and stuff and yet cant come up with a brilliant musical piece that will capture a wide and aesthetically matured audience
First of all, if you want to talk guitar technique, then let's talk finger style! Picking technique is an invention of folk musicians not classically trained masters. So if you're a stickler over technique then go listen to Segovia! It's not about the pick or perfect alternate picking or sweeps. It's about the melodic line and the phrase! You pick the way that feels right within the phrase. Too much technique = robotics = plastic music!
I don't see how I dishonor O'Sensei by using osensei as a handle. Maybe you might care to elaborate? I never claimed to be a great teacher or a Soke! Rather, I chose this name to honor the founder of Aikido and Omotokyo.
So what's ur point? I simply stated that if someone is looking for the perfect technician then they should listen to someone who's classically trained, not a jazz artist! My point is that no one is expecting artists like Metheny to have perfect technique. And if you wanna bitch about technique then go listen to artists like Segovia instead of a popular musician. This is in response to they guy who say Pat's technique is lacking. OK! We know he's not perfect and we don't really give a shit!
This is as stupid as going to a BB King concert and then complaining that BB's technique is lacking! Duh ....! No shit Sherlock?! If you went to a BB King concert expecting the Concierto de Aranjuez then ur the moron aren't you?
I'm sorry BadSneakers, but i have been playing since the age of 5. I listened to this video 7 times so far and everything make complete sence!! Everything was pretty much perfect!! Lee ritenour is great too, but i've personally heard alot of mistakes come from him!! As far as experience, feeling, technique and brillance, Metheny's the one and only!!!
He goes well beyond "warming up" dont you think? I dont know if its the diminished scales, arpeggios or what, but this warm up is beautiful. It resonates my spirit. Thank you for posting this. Invaluable peak into a master improvisational mind.
Um.. since this a clinic or "seminaro" what ever.. I think he is showing this to the people to show them that the "basics" are(arrpegios,intervals,scales,showing the clean and stable technique)
i totally disagree about the comparison to j.s.bach. bach is ever-new and a force unto himself, and no musician or composer can ever hope to come within his scope.
that being said, i love pat, and he is a constant source of joy and inspiration.
but improvising arpeggios and sequences, as great as they are cannot come close to the work of j.s.bach.
I agree with you on the Metheny/Bach comparison, but it should be pointed out that many jazz fusion composers are quite innovative, often using harmonies that composers in the era of Bach would shy away from. Random single noting isn't nearly as complex, but jazz harmonies could certainly be. Allan Holdsworth is a great example of a killer author of chord progressions, and a great composer in his own right.
Pat will always be a tremendous positive force for guitar! If ever some of you can decode some of that please give us some clues. Is it just arpeggios? Sounds like classical music. Thank you Pat. Thank everybody.
He starts off by running the circle if 4ths with major 7 arpeggios, and breaks in to a free form improv. What's cool is it's very Bach like. Great to see a jazz musician who truly understands the beauty of voice leading good old triads.
the lines that hes doing in the first couple minutes i do just when i'm practicing so it's cool to see someone like metheny doing the same thing
seanmarkeymusic 1 week ago
Metheny is beyond a genius! 7seven Youtube dislikes are so lame. I'd rather do what he's doing right here in this video then have all of Billy Gate$ money. Just me though
AboveMiddleC1977 1 week ago
Once again beautiful. I would like to find a recording of just this kind of solo palying by Pat Metheny.
TheMunchkin7777 1 week ago
Beautiful.
TheMunchkin7777 1 week ago
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mikeleighmusic 2 weeks ago
...breathtaking.
mikeleighmusic 2 weeks ago
dude, his practice sessions are breathe taking!
evkimble 3 weeks ago
se torna chamamecero en el 1:28 ja
juliojuanluciano 4 weeks ago
se torna chamamecero en el 1:28 ja
juliojuanluciano 4 weeks ago
Pat @ 0:58 - Are there any songs/ albums that are in this style that pat has done? Id love a great sound quality version of something like this.
ckahle33 1 month ago
We all know that Pat is an exceptional musician and player. As good as he is, I refuse to give up and take up knitting................maybe I'll learn the banjo instead!
flangeres1752 1 month ago
I always confuse this guy with Pat Martino and equally good master on the guitar.
weseyedwalk 2 months ago
love those major 7th arpeggios
DiatonicSoul 2 months ago
one of the musical guitarists ive ever heard in my life..ever..
outjazzer 2 months ago
jaw in lap...
casszen 2 months ago
i made a comment on one of pats lessons downloads about wes montgomerys i wish i knew and the closing seconds - one of pats tunes more recent ones at last youre here off of day trip reminds me alot of wes montgomery and jim hall intertwined probably more wes though at last youre here a slick tune, also gilad hekselman an up and coming jazz guitarist - great tune the summer of laughs and tears, unbelievable gilad on the flip side reminds me of an ecclectic mix of pat and john abercrombie
jazzsaavy 5 months ago
Well, I´m listen to his music since almost 30 years, but it surprise me anytime. When Music, Theorie anf genius comes together......great
andreascarstensen 5 months ago
Bach is so close to his playing
Multiac 5 months ago
a myriad of musical treats
closetome 6 months ago
Non vedo l'ora a novembre di godermelo,a 2 metri di distanza, in questo stesso stato di grazia !
Una fonte inesauribile d'ispirazione, alla quale abbeverarsi ogni istante della propria esistenza .
RickInRock84 6 months ago
Questo è un pazzo furioso!! L'ho visto in concerto, è incredibilmente bravo e non sbaglia mai!! Fenomeno che però ha passato anni a studiare ore ed ore!!! Grandissimo!
DECANO67 7 months ago
belin...sapessi fare un "riscaldamento" così...ci farei direttamente un concerto:-))
melantoriano 7 months ago 3
Can someone please tell me what he is practicing? And where can I find this?
Gabemusicchannel 7 months ago
sounded like Glass at the beginning then some french romanticism, then Bach, then I dunno.
pickinstone 8 months ago
Great !
jaco3714 9 months ago
c'ero anche io... bellissime soprattutto le serate dei concerti...
Durante il seminario ha parlato molto dell'importanza del warm-up, e ne ho fatto lezione di vita.
Per il resto poi parlò più di unghie che di armonia, e una dritta armonica da lui sarebbe stata una bella direzione da prendere...
marcospinetta 10 months ago
Very interesting! We can see the huge difference between vertical/chordal and horizontal/scale kinds of improvisations. Really good lesson!
Wyga23 1 year ago
@aaokiwan ah yeh that is my point , ironic
TheThinh911 1 year ago
wow he is so good musician just like kenny G
TheThinh911 1 year ago
@TheThinh911 Pat Metheny and Kenny G aren't even on the same planet dude...
aaokiwan 1 year ago 3
Steve Rodby and Paul Wertico's new band - Marbin
jimmycole12 1 year ago
This just completely and utterly blew my mind.
Ejamieson7654 1 year ago
my god...path's warm-up has better phrasing than anything I could ever come up with, given a lifetime.
alspageddi 1 year ago
Thanks Pat!!!!!!!!!
I learned a lot from this natural exercises. It forced mi to practice triads and arpeggios only with th 7ths. This allows me to go faster from pointa A to B , covering a wide range from low to hi notes. It does give me a sound Classic - Like, I can use pure, or mixed along with the "beebop stuff". I think that´s the point of the exercise. I spent months researching this Philosofy. And today I still warm up with triads going up in fourths, it´s simple but amasing!!!Thanks
rlacuan 1 year ago
@rlacuan I don't understand this excercise. Can you please give me an example how to practice this. thank you
Hucho 1 year ago
@Hucho I think that is to try to create a more "classic-like" phrasing. These´s a lot of majos and minor triada as well as Maj7 Dominant7, diminished anr half- diminished aréggios going along the neck . A usefull jumping in the circle of fourths of the stuff we are practicing. Tnen he shows hes special triad treatment with the notes in opened voicing , with rut on babb then 3rd , then 4th, so bass. I mean there´s a lot of thimgs you can do with that . Even warm up!!!It Has no order but teaches..
rlacuan 8 months ago
@rlacuan I'm sorry... What the fuck did you just say?
MidwestProgressive88 7 months ago
comunque ho trovato le trascrizioni e le tabs di questi esercizi sul sito del mensile axemagazine.it
matsimo76 1 year ago 3
@matsimo76
Si? w il link me lo passeresti?
ANIENZO 1 year ago
@matsimo76
ottimo dov'e' il link?
:-)
enjazz 1 year ago 3
@enjazz quando inserisco il link mi da errore....cmq basta aggiungere le tre w all'indirizzo axemagazine.it. è il sito della rivista per chitarristi axe...
matsimo76 1 year ago
@matsimo76 eh eh dov'è sto link?? :D
frablu3s 1 year ago
@frablu3s non riesco a mettere il link al sito. se lo metto mi da errore e non mi fa postare il messaggio. sai aiutarmi? cmq il sito è "axemagazine.it" , sezione "video" categoria "a scuola da youtube". ciao :))
matsimo76 1 year ago
Grande Pat
matsimo76 1 year ago
Is there any transcription of that ? What was the point of the exercise ?
jeanba11 1 year ago
e' un grande
ginocatone 1 year ago
Wow how many Pat Metheny's can there be? Is this an actual Baroque piece or is he just riffing "in the style of..."?
pswoods 1 year ago
I'm looking for this kind of lesson for years, thanks for post it, this is a very musical lesson, it's how it should be, Pat is the man
collengregory 1 year ago
pat is a class of it's own.
RaerY1959 1 year ago
This serves as an excellent reminder that tools necessary to be a virtuosic jazz improvisor of the first order (a la Pat) are the same for anyone, and include a thorough knowledge, understanding, and command of major and minor scales, and arpeggios, and how they relate to each other; as well as technical command of one's instrument,; and the ability to play in time.
RootsinBrooklyn 1 year ago
Somebody, MOVE THAT MICROPHONE STAND!!!!!
randolph229 1 year ago
he's basically saying the following:
"Play arpeggios, scales etc, but while you have to understand them in a mechanical way, avoid playing them in a mechanical way - never play the same thing in the same way.
He [Metheny] basically starts with an arpeggio, then starts to modulate it in a way that he's never done before.
This serves as an exercise that gives you an understanding of the entire instrument, while at the same time, you warm up."
Great vid, gonna be studying this for a while!
ishouldpractice 1 year ago 3
@enjazz - forse potresti scrivere il traduzione qui sopra nei dettagli, poi non ti chiedono più che vuol dire!
ishouldpractice 1 year ago
@ishouldpractice thanks for this translation. this makes so much sense.
randolph229 1 year ago
can anyone tell me what happens before this? What does Pat tell us about "starting a compositional effort" :) ? I'm really curious.. and well.. pretty much to lazy to scroll down all these comments to see if the question has allready been asked :-P but hey, aren't we all?
diederikeggenkamp 1 year ago
incredibile musicalità
fungosound 1 year ago
senza parole...mi ha ipnotizzato è un grande!
lemiegiornate 1 year ago
el peor guitarrista del mundo
donpancho321 1 year ago
I've been trying to do my warmups with his same approach and it doesn't quite sound nearly as good as this.Damn.What a player ,musician and artist.
keepdiggin33 1 year ago
He absolutely knows all the notes, everywhere on the neck. He's not constrained by fingering patterns like mortal guitarists.
ecktoeman 1 year ago
i'd like to see yngwie try play some of those arpegios !
JOHNNYG99X 1 year ago 2
@JOHNNYG99X I really wouldn't want to see yngwie play anything
Bjazz 1 year ago 25
@Bjazz yea! absolutely! If I wanted to hear that I would write a bunch of arpeggios in a software program with only midi and press the play button at 300 BPM.
dantheguitarman88 1 year ago
@JOHNNYG99X he would and faster.....but jason becker will always be above any guitar player.
kinomex 1 year ago
Il migliore, il più completo...e che compositore poi!!!
teseomat 1 year ago
PAT METHENY GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dvareckas 1 year ago
He makes everything he plays - even running thru scales and arpeggios, sound symphonic, ultra musical, poignant and magical. It's rather uncanny.
martinjp1958 1 year ago
se...aspè che mo ce provo.... :D
METALLAROFOREVER 1 year ago
ahahahahha sisis tutto facile per lui :)) "fa le solite cose" dice :D
tucciotucci 1 year ago
Suona il metal che è una cosa più comune...
Armony89 1 year ago
@Armony89 ma veramente suono si metal...ma studio e suono jazz,pop,soul ecc...il mondo è bello perché è vario ... e la musica non può essere da meno...
METALLAROFOREVER 1 year ago
You can hear his academic roots... Hi has the strangest way to hold the pick. Said that... Fantastic PAT :))
fracarciofo 2 years ago 2
sometimes he's doing a falling fifths apeggiation. in some parts like bach inventions. pretty rockin
memcmp 2 years ago 4
Pure genius
martinjp1958 2 years ago 2
In this beautifull exercise I hear some peace of Kreutzer etuides for violin. Isn't it?
pospieszalowski 2 years ago
he can record scales and I's equally deep to some other ppl's 'albums'...pat=god
TrustNooooo1 2 years ago
O.k.... I'm putting the guitar down and taking up knitting.
bigtoine45 2 years ago 6
i hear that
StevieRich 2 years ago
simply beautiful music!
Aldren88 2 years ago
si riesce a malapena a capire quanto è grande!!
baccobirra86 2 years ago 3
there is some direction to it, he's arpeggiating his way through the changes and then in intervals and then mixing it all up creatively. the same way that an athlete would spend time studying the track they were about to race. gotta know all your paths before you can be free to wander around freely and without fear of getting lost!
lanerant 2 years ago
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It is only a scale exercise in high speed. No direction. he only plays what comes in his head.
movingheart 2 years ago
he has a lot of music informacion on his head, he can mix sacles while he is playing, he is one of the best guistarrists in the world i think , because of his capacity of composition
juliaanrock 2 years ago 5
Best contemporary guitarist
marcometh 2 years ago 16
Did you notice that these ideas don't really come up in his solos often? He's a great soloist partly because he never sounds like he's tossing out well rehearsed harmonic devices in advance. I've been trying to get Slonimsky vocabulary into my solos for a while, but it isn't easy to work things in without it sounding stiff or contrived.
Modes9 2 years ago
@marcometh : you're right ... after Sylvain Luc :)
boblepongeu 1 year ago
can any one please translate what he says in this video into english?
pr0udmonkey 2 years ago
play fucking scales
GaryNull 2 years ago
He does
KenKen540 2 years ago
ciao..
il seminario si è tenuto a Ravenna, mi pare circa 6 anni fa, per tre giorni cosecutivi...non credo però esistano video didattici se non quelli "rubati" con il telefono...
la cosa spaventosa è che si stava semplicemente scaldando...
un saluto,
Matt
mattia3195 2 years ago 4
si nel 2003 a luglio sono stati due giorni, strepitoso.
enjazz 2 years ago
@mattia3195 praticamente un mostro!!! peccato che pochi capiscono di musica"VERA"
danielecenturelli 1 year ago
ero presente anche io...quei tre giorni sono stati semplicemente fantastici...Pat è davvero geniale e vederlo lì davanti poi....G R A N D E ! ! !
mattia3195 2 years ago
il video è strepitoso e da l' idea della bravura e delle capacità del grande Pat
Vorrei sapere quando e dove è stato tenuto il seminario
é percaso disponibile qualche altro video relativo a quella occasione oppure delle dispense che possano ampliare la conoscenza musicale di noi poveri mortali ???
grazie
misolidio70 2 years ago
se riesco postero' un altro video, e' solo questione di tempo.
grazie
enjazz 2 years ago
Ti ringrazio. Attendo con ansia !!
misolidio70 2 years ago
Practice never sounded so good!
JeffVell 2 years ago 4
wow at 3:339-3:46
jacofanatic 2 years ago
grande maestro metheny
nedyflanders7777 2 years ago 3
im in the process of building a metheny shrine. i shall worship with all of myself. please metheny show me the way.
casszen 2 years ago
casszen...lol...what a crack up....im on the same page!!.well said.....
loverools 2 years ago
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I don´t like how this guy plays...
fede1736 2 years ago
this is just awesome. so fluid...
guitaralbert0 2 years ago 2
wish I could play 1 min of that
RDblues47 2 years ago
Why don't you start to build up scales and arpeggios? Ain't that difficult... BUT, his touch renders anything coming out of his hands beatiful and meaningful.
fracarciofo 2 years ago
love and hate him at the same time. any other guitar players out there understand? metheny is incredible genius!
casszen 2 years ago 5
What do you hate about him just out of curiosity?
jsmurfy89 2 years ago
7:28 is pretty cool.
bustan44 2 years ago
ahahahahaha ci sta benissimo "sono un genio"
maskone 2 years ago
ANIMAAAAALLL!!!!
epicedioo 2 years ago
i think the song is autumn leaves in borad
taohuan 2 years ago
Sorry, could anyone translate from italian to english? It looks that important compositional advices are being explained in the video.
gonsotube 2 years ago
even though it's "only" a warmup and a lot of arpeggios and other exercises, it's it like he makes music out of it as he goes along ... it sounds so beautiful ! i just lied down and closed my eyes last night and listened through this a couple of times... gives me a ton of new inspiration for practicing hard
jdean9 2 years ago 2
el tio pat ta mas loco k una cabra., una vez estaba en el festival de jazz fde montreux hablando con un entrevistador y de pronto el tio se subio repentinamente a un arbol , jajajaja
charlito55 2 years ago
ah ah bella la scritta "sono un genio"...:))
hanhensbart 2 years ago
5 *, thank u 4 vid! ; )
wonderfull!
fradipa 2 years ago
wow!!!!
olemix 2 years ago
Awesome!
5 *****
gagi
gagiandjeo 2 years ago
pat metheny
is awesome
marquesjunior 2 years ago
when your technique its good the harmonics start to sound better, thats why i said about the harp... its obvius the reverb
capeta333 2 years ago
he sounds like an harp,
very sweet tone and impressive technique
capeta333 2 years ago
it's reverb in the room...
Funkatronical 2 years ago
Isn't it Autumn Leaves ?
ITheobaldusI 2 years ago
no , it's "all the things you are"
oeilfritte 2 years ago
what is this piece he's playing? does anyone know the name?
Harpua352 2 years ago
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I would bet all he does is improvised, just going over (great) patterns he obviously set up before. There's some major scales, triads, some maj 7 arpeggios, and nice ideas of changes all the way through, but not any "piece".
FabianDaurat 2 years ago
Pat is just fekkin great ! Now for youtube commenters, when you'll reach this level you can talk, until then shut the f*** up and listen to the masters.
earsoup 3 years ago
yagamei, in clss it´s all about practically showing what you said before;-) and you have to admit, that the 'bach-improv' starting 3.35 or so is just outstanding
ullumugullu 3 years ago
PAT METHENY GENIUS!!!
Dvareckas 3 years ago
.... And not to mention that Classical music envokes MUCH discipline as where Jazz envokes SPIRIT. So many of the master balance the two by practicing with a classical ethic and playing with the improvised spirit of jazz. Plus... he IS in Italy I believe.
BlingMasterFunk 3 years ago
I am sorry but pardon the lack of euphemism: for the most part you are full of shit. Interpretative nuances in classical music may be more subtle, but are as just as broad- with the exception of improvising melodies and chords, though classical music utilizes improvisation as well- as in jazz. Jazz musicians must make use of dynamics, tone colouring, articulation, and inflection. Classical musicians can improvise these.
doublealufwaffe 3 years ago
jazz is something you must have in mind the first day you become a player that can choose between both extreme... inventing music or writing music or reading others music is all a series of great accomplishment but there is a choise to make and that choice comes with great reasponsabilities...
guydelest 3 years ago
I'm not quite sure you understand. I did not state in any way, a bias for either genre. "Magirecords2004" stated that to him/her it sounded 'classical'. I replied giving input as to why it may sound that way to him/her in the hopes that it will help them. You on the other hand seem to be looking for an argument. Would you like to discuss the theory of relativivity while we're at? Stop making people feel bad just to make yourself feel good.
BlingMasterFunk 3 years ago
The reason for the "Classical" sound is because he's playing mostly Major 7th Arpeggios. Try it sometime they are really fun and challenging.
BlingMasterFunk 3 years ago
Almost sounds classical.
magirecords2004 3 years ago
Huh No John Hoy
anandanaga999 3 years ago
Makes me want to practice, thanks pat for being such a great example.
AllthatIamisLove 3 years ago
that warm up soudns like final fantasy 2.
hes got skill
diminishedlogic 3 years ago
Hey, what's the chord @ 2:10 to 2:15 ?? I love it!
Kubolski 3 years ago
I think he is playing the arpeggio of the Emin7(b5) chord (locrian), but starts from the b5 which is a Bb. So the secuence is Bb - D - E - G - Bb - D - E .. etc..
adondebass 3 years ago
do you imagine "another hour" of beautiful and inspiring musical ideas like these??
timple415 3 years ago
they're just arps and a couple of other little warm-up things. Exercises, really. I'm kinda disappointed this video doesn't showcase more of him talking and actually playing things that demonstrate what he says.
yagamei 3 years ago
amazing!
rodrigocastrofoto 3 years ago 2
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john mayer FTW!
playfenderstrats 3 years ago
alguien puede traducir el principio en español ??
superguitarras111 3 years ago
Excellent playing. Don't worry about commenting on whether he's playing clean and technical. What is the Bach piece he's paraphrasing? Is it from the Well Tempered Clavier or Bach Violin Sonatas perhaps? He's definitely doing things around the cycle, which is a practice method many jazz players use. He starts that way with Major 7th arpegios. Very inspiring.
tcreverb 3 years ago
I don't think BadSneakers has any kind of an ear for music! When i listen to metheny, I can relate to him like no other! Everything is perfect!!
SpeedPic2782 3 years ago
Technic is nothing compared with his music,..that's the most important, and at that point he doesn't fail, his music is brilliant. There are lots of technically better guitarists than Pat, but only one Metheny,...talent is the main key to success.
dingomine 3 years ago
I am very familiar w/ PM and his work. (We love to listen to "Gathering Sky" when it's about to rain.) But the comparison to Bach when his playing was technically lacking, was a bit of a stretch. I showed my wife (she is a classically trained pianist.) She couldn't believe the mistakes. Yes, Metheny plays the pick backwards because when he started out he could only find thin picks, so he played by picking with the fatter part.
I was just making an observation. I love Metheny.
BadSneakers 3 years ago
Who would critique a person for their technical precision while they're warming up?
He's a Master. Plain and simple. If there is ever such a thing. This spans musical genres and instruments and eons. There is no shortfall that is less than the "human nature" of us all.
What do you know about Bach's technique anyway... WTF! How could someone be so stupid as to compare?
There are tons of outstanding "technically proficient" guitarists and other musicians here. There's only one Metheny
avatarist 3 years ago 10
Good grief, I'm not the one who brought up Bach - others were comparing his "warm up" to Bach. The shame!
BadSneakers 3 years ago
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I'm sorry, but his technique is lacking. I don't mean to make folks mad, but he is making some serious mistakes. Someone like Lee Ritenour is much more technically precise.
BadSneakers 3 years ago
Uhm, I think you should expect a lot of angry replies... Pat is not technically precise, everybody who loves him knows. He is also always a bit late on the beat, and he even holds the pick backwards! So what, he has given us some of the most beautiful music in history. Sorry for Lee Ritenour and all the others, who are great, but nobody can be compared to Pat, simply. Please listen to some of his masterpieces for some time, then come back.
quattroetresette 3 years ago
technique has its limitations musically, it can't beat compositional artistry which pat metheny is a master at. you can possess a lot of fancy scales and stuff and yet cant come up with a brilliant musical piece that will capture a wide and aesthetically matured audience
eyeconoclash 3 years ago
"Aesthetically matured"? Could you try to be a little more elite? hehe
CarlOlav 3 years ago
First of all, if you want to talk guitar technique, then let's talk finger style! Picking technique is an invention of folk musicians not classically trained masters. So if you're a stickler over technique then go listen to Segovia! It's not about the pick or perfect alternate picking or sweeps. It's about the melodic line and the phrase! You pick the way that feels right within the phrase. Too much technique = robotics = plastic music!
osensei2987 3 years ago
you are using the name of o'sensei morihei ueshiba in vain! shame on you.
achangames 3 years ago
I don't see how I dishonor O'Sensei by using osensei as a handle. Maybe you might care to elaborate? I never claimed to be a great teacher or a Soke! Rather, I chose this name to honor the founder of Aikido and Omotokyo.
osensei2987 3 years ago
Segovia was perfect.But I'm sorry he didn't improvise.Pat does.
mithomaniac12 3 years ago
So what's ur point? I simply stated that if someone is looking for the perfect technician then they should listen to someone who's classically trained, not a jazz artist! My point is that no one is expecting artists like Metheny to have perfect technique. And if you wanna bitch about technique then go listen to artists like Segovia instead of a popular musician. This is in response to they guy who say Pat's technique is lacking. OK! We know he's not perfect and we don't really give a shit!
osensei2987 3 years ago
This is as stupid as going to a BB King concert and then complaining that BB's technique is lacking! Duh ....! No shit Sherlock?! If you went to a BB King concert expecting the Concierto de Aranjuez then ur the moron aren't you?
osensei2987 3 years ago
I'm sorry BadSneakers, but i have been playing since the age of 5. I listened to this video 7 times so far and everything make complete sence!! Everything was pretty much perfect!! Lee ritenour is great too, but i've personally heard alot of mistakes come from him!! As far as experience, feeling, technique and brillance, Metheny's the one and only!!!
SpeedPic2782 3 years ago
Thank you so much for posting this, it is both humbling and deeply inspiring.
cwhanna 3 years ago
He goes well beyond "warming up" dont you think? I dont know if its the diminished scales, arpeggios or what, but this warm up is beautiful. It resonates my spirit. Thank you for posting this. Invaluable peak into a master improvisational mind.
ToKnowArt 3 years ago
Um.. since this a clinic or "seminaro" what ever.. I think he is showing this to the people to show them that the "basics" are(arrpegios,intervals,scales,showing the clean and stable technique)
very important.
rjseorlwkd 3 years ago
you great man !
you are mozart ?
marquesjunior 3 years ago
some of those ascending and descending triads from 02.00 and outward sound almost like sweeping.. im pretty sure he alternate picks them though?
jdean9 3 years ago
i totally disagree about the comparison to j.s.bach. bach is ever-new and a force unto himself, and no musician or composer can ever hope to come within his scope.
that being said, i love pat, and he is a constant source of joy and inspiration.
but improvising arpeggios and sequences, as great as they are cannot come close to the work of j.s.bach.
heyyah198383 3 years ago 2
I agree with you on the Metheny/Bach comparison, but it should be pointed out that many jazz fusion composers are quite innovative, often using harmonies that composers in the era of Bach would shy away from. Random single noting isn't nearly as complex, but jazz harmonies could certainly be. Allan Holdsworth is a great example of a killer author of chord progressions, and a great composer in his own right.
jevoshawke13 3 years ago
the guy is f*ing brilliant...
cageehv 3 years ago 2
great maestro
marquesjunior 3 years ago 2
J.S.Bach on guitar.
nemesekernyo 3 years ago 4
Isnt it All the things you are at 3.50? Like his way to outline the chords, very strong despricption of the harmonic movement. Great stuff!
Best, Sandemose
Sandemose 3 years ago
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i don`t like.i`m sorry
uapthecarton74 3 years ago
WTF I will never know how he manages to play those string skippings with his picking technique.
metheny-holdsworth-t.emmanuel= GODS
insaneguitarfreak 3 years ago
Pat will always be a tremendous positive force for guitar! If ever some of you can decode some of that please give us some clues. Is it just arpeggios? Sounds like classical music. Thank you Pat. Thank everybody.
LyricalBungalow 3 years ago
He starts off by running the circle if 4ths with major 7 arpeggios, and breaks in to a free form improv. What's cool is it's very Bach like. Great to see a jazz musician who truly understands the beauty of voice leading good old triads.
lindseyblair 3 years ago 6
Thanks a lot Lindsayblair! I concur : It sounds like Bach but would not have dared to say so myself. I also like the trio work of Metheny a lot.
LyricalBungalow 3 years ago