Flip Ultra HD vs Kodak Zi8 - Which One Is Better?

[TheNinjaGameplay]

What camera did you use to record this video?

[pcfix411]

Having to make an extra step to edit in vegas knocks the kodak down a notch.

[ILostTobin]

Just thought I would let you know: Sony Vegas will read these files, as long as you have Quicktime installed on your computer (giving you the codecs that are required).

I also feel like the audio wasn't stressed enough. That is what REALLY sold the Zi8 for me. These tips are for people with a small budget, and so recommending that you buy an external voice recorder dosen't make a lot of sense. I was able to pick up a good Sony stereo mic for under $5 and drastically improve the sound.

[SmartAlecz]

how can i switch from kodak zi8 mov files to wmv files

[twinsince96]

the price is better with the flip camera

[XXsithlord333]

what about price?

[michellescorner]

Why would you perfer AA batteries?? ... You would spend so much money on buying more and replacing them.

[GideonShalwick]

@michellescorner Hey Michelle - rechargeable AA batteries work out quite cheaply :)

[Kn0xVlogs]

Can someone tell me how he got the background to be kind of blurry but he looks perffect... thanks!

[chaoscrosby]

@Kn0xVlogs He has A Canon It Naturally Does That It focuses in more on you face and what not

[LiivingMyLife]

hrx which lens did you use on your t2i?

[ThePurpleDrumStick]

wich is better? kodak zi8 or playsport zx3?

[ThePurpleDrumStick]

wich camera is best for the thing i use them for (check my channel)?

[BAWWrestling2001]

hey great video!!!

i was wondering is the flip company out of business..

i've had 3 or 4 people tell me that, i was just wondering

because i really like it but im not sure if its out of business

that would kinda suck if it was because that would mean

they wouldn't be making any new accessories.. that would be

the only down fall....but people told me the kodak is awesome too soo,

im now thinking about getting that:)

[funnydude307]

what about the ultra hd 3rd gen for sound is it better now

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[longboardrider101]

Why is it that all the videos on youtube that were recorded with a Kodak Zi8 Camera. Are all really slow. They take FOREVER to load. Even when they are at 360p they take forever. But all other videos on youtube load just fine. What Is Up. Like if you pay attention to it. All the Kodak Zi8 Camera videos take a long time to load. Which makes myself wonder if I should but this camera. People wouldnt want to wait for a video to load. So people wouldnt watch my videos. Why Is This Like This.

[mp4podcastDOTcom]

I think for the built in MIC's the Flip has better audio. Some Kodak Zi8 have bad mics with buzzing sound. Not all Kodak Zi8 have this problem but a lot of them do.

[makeMEup04]

Whats the battery life for both?

[tannabeatz]

LOL!!!! HE PAYS $500 BUCKS EXTRA JUST FOR BETTER SOUND, WHEN U CAN PAY $30 FOR AN EXTERNAL MIC WITH THE ZI8.... That alone seperates the 2 cameras. Thanks for the review!!!

[MrDeamon1]

The macro on the flip just got is horrible

[SawyerDangerous]

My friend got a flip and kinda topped the digital camera we used. Then I bought the Zi8(hadnt heard of it yet) but it seemed to me like the Kodak is better, he was right about the Flip being able to stand up. But the microphone option is awesome! To me the Kodak is better for making longer more important videos, but the Flip would be good for just vlogging or making a quick fun video.

[Lifeintakes]

The Zi8 works fine on Sony Vegas Pro. Zi8 has 720 60P which gives better recording quality and slow motion capability plus it has 1080P. It also has Macro mode where the flip cameras do not. I do like the flips feel and flat bottom better and it is simpler to use but because of the vastly better functionality and ability of the Zi8 I think it is not much of a contest as the Zi8 is just better.

[ilikegreenhippos]

do you know a ood converter, so i can convert zi8 files onto sony vegas? :] please reply!

[pabloamira]

I have Sony Vegas 10 . The ZI-8 Works fine .But the MOV format is a really pain . !

[EPICDEBO]

what's the price comparison?

[AdonijahC25]

flip all the way!!!!

[Nickvideoguy]

I used a Kodak Zi8 & Flip UltraHD in this video.

Title: Laura Cheadle Live On The Radio

[OhNancified]

Do any of them allow you to get a blurry background?

[SocialMarketing4Biz]

Hey Gideon

Cheers for the tip on the separate recording device, I use Kodak playsport because I like to film around water a lot. Being that I have already dropped my JVC 835 in the water, the waterproof option for me is a necessity!

[lovesubscribers]

what camera ur using in this video to record it.

[GideonShalwick]

@lovesubscribers I used a Canon T2i for this one. But if you look at my older videos, I just used the Flip Ultra HD. The Canon T2i or other similar DSLR cameras are awesome, but they also do have their drawbacks. Eg, HUGE learning curve, more expensive than Flip or Kodak, and they only record for about 12 min max at a time. So, it's not a beginner type of video camera :)

[Kiasko]

Is it still worth buying the Zi8 now or are there newer "good value" pocket cancorders out today?

[GideonShalwick]

@Kiasko Zi8 still great, but apparently the new Kodak is even better - I have not tested it though so I cant say for sure.

[thetripodification]

great review!

I was looking for a HD camera myself for you tube video's.

You helped me allot, thanx.

Keep up the good work.

Cheerz.

[ejtiprost]

how much did the flip pay you ?

[GideonShalwick]

@ejtiprost Flip paid me nothing. But maybe they should have, given all the flack I am getting for having them as my personal preference lol!

[TeamManny12]

why do you need so many batteries if ur only gonna make 10 minute videos...

[compleckz]

What camera are you using to record yourself ?

[believr77]

Nice work Gideon! You're quite the natural on camera. But I agree with some of the sentiments stated here about the love for the flip.

Btw, what did you film this with?

[kober43]

this sucks. the kodak is thinner and easier to drop? what the hell? and oh yeah the flip wins bc it only can hold 8gb to the camrea when the kodak can hold up to 32gb on sd card when the card doesnt make the camrea more difficult to use. and oh a whopping 1 or 2 more buttons make it so much harder to use! obviously just like the flip camrea

[golfprogress]

Nice review, you're a natural at product reviews! Though as a Zi8 user, I was confused as to why you prefer the flip when it seemed to win most of the categories and took me 10 minutes to figure out. I was just given a Flip cam so I'll be able to make my own comparison too.

At 4:33 you said flip but didn't you mean to say the Zi8 was bettter in that category?

Look and feel is subjective but important. The battery issue is legit. The Zi8 is now $100!!! I bought a second one.

[conewells]

Most of these reviewers make no comparisons of the ZOOM levels. The Flip zoom is weak.

[BraintreeMedia]

Nice comparison. A few points though. You said that the Zi8 was a bit more complicated. The Flip had 4 buttons but the Kodak only has 5 and when you power on, it only asks what resolution to film at. I think you were a little bit biased there. Also, regarding batteries, you can get a second battery pack and an external charger, or what I just got, the "Revive solar battery pack". Holds an extra charge and if you're really stuck can charge your battery by solar. It was $30 on Amazon. Good review!

[TonyMainProduction]

Come an.. The Kodak Zi8 is really easy to use! :P

[InsanityIsNormality]

Not taking into account external mics, what is better for straight up sound quality?

[JudySeeger]

I have the Kodak Zi8 already. Which mic do you recommend for it?

[SuperLingner]

If mine will stay on the tripod 99% of the time would the older model have a better picture? Seems like the reviews mostly say the new model compresses the file a lot more to get the 60fps and image stabilization. The reviews on youtube show the new one doesn't do as well in low light but not a concern. I'm buying a 3rd gen ultra hd or old one soon. I was thinking the Kodak but they seem to show red as orange on the videos I've watched on youtube anyway.

[TheSnackPack1234]

how would u compare the two in price. 

[TheMaddenBeast]

which one has better image stabilization?

[GideonShalwick]

@TheMaddenBeast The Flip Ultra HD - especially the new version that has just come out...

Gideon Shalwick

[basketball16468]

@GideonShalwick which one is the new version of the flip called

[VidsBySS]

@basketball16468,

The new version of the Flip UltraHD has the same name: Flip UltraHD. To make sure you are getting the newest version, you have to look for "3rd generation" or U32120B (U32120W for the white version).

[hoosier9009]

this guy really loves the flip..I think the kodak is soo much better.

[GideonShalwick]

@hoosier9009 lol - it depends on what you're using it for. Technically, I think the Kodak is better yes, but for simplicity, I really like the Flip Ultra HD :)

Gideon Shalwick

[TheCopperhound84]

@hoosier9009 sony bloggie touch all the way

[unspecialfish]

This is a ridiculous review. The reviewer's opinion on the cameras seems biased to the point where it could be considered trolling. Having more options than four buttons can be "confusing?" Many of the categories were clearly weighed in the direction of the Flip camera even when the Kodak was clearly better. This removed all credibility and made him look like a dumbass.

[GideonShalwick]

@unspecialfish you are right - I am biased :) - although, there is nothing in it for me, the Flip is really just what I like to use personally. I've tried the Kodak, but it's not as nice to use (for me). But I am sure others will disagree... as is expected. Thanks for your input though.

Gideon Shalwick

[1434utalha]

@GideonShalwick

i like ur review and think you are not biased about the product

[1434utalha]

@GideonShalwick

i like ur review and think that you are not biased about the product

[danishayne]

I would have loved for you to go into the extra features the Kodak has. I don't like the zoom on Flip or that it doesn't have a light. Does the Kodak?

[spielberg01]

@unspecialfish I totally agree with you. This was a very biased review and he clearly works for Cisco. The Kodak is a more superior camera to the Flip by a long margin. The funniest part was how he preferred the limited Flip with its limited storage capacity. haha Yeah ok buddy, we believe you lol

[spielberg01]

@unspecialfish I totally agree with you. This was a very biased review and he clearly works for Cisco. The Kodak is a more superior camera to the Flip by a long margin. The funniest part was how he preferred the Flip with its limited storage capacity. haha Yeah ok buddy, we believe you lol

[miguemonkeytrejo]

what did you use to record this video?

[gtaiscool1231]

wat did u use to video tape this video

[myok1234]

Quite unrelated question:

How do you make your camcorder to focus on your face, and not on the background?

Is it a feature of your camcorder? Or is it a specific kind of lens for a specific focal point?

I am using a Canon Vixia HF-S100 to record some tutorial videos, and I want to have the same effect.

Thanks.

[GideonShalwick]

@myok1234 You need the right camcorder and lens. The one I used for this shoot was the Canon T2i 55D (Rebel) with a 50mm 1:1.8 lens. That gives you that nice depth of field look.

Gideon Shalwick

[TheArrowShow]

Also I searched his name and he has a video "fishing for hummers" with almost a million views so go back to worshipping Satan

[TheArrowShow]

@satancouldkillyounow ur making fun of poolboyinla's name? Ur name is for cutters and anorexics! Go get a life loser!

[astoniz]

For my own Opinion Kodak Zi8 win :D

[bogbel]

Great review, extremely helpful. I'm going with the flip. Thanks

[rockin4shred]

Do you know any other digital camera or point and shoot camera with an exteral mic jack, that shoots in HD?

Help plz!!

[GideonShalwick]

@rockin4shred The Vado from Creative (3rd generation) is pretty good too - has an ext mic jack and some other nice features, and the quality is pretty good too. Similar price range...

Gideon Shalwick

[wilsvlog]

the only thing that i love with kodak zi8 is that, it has an external mic port. hmm?

disadv of zi8: the batteries, vid file format

dsadv of flip ultra: the port for external mic, 8gb max of memory.

is there any other camcorder u can suggest that has external mic port?

---thnx for the reviews---

[GideonShalwick]

@wilsvlog The new Flip has a port where you can plug things into. For example, you can plug in the Mikey from Blue Microphones which then allows you to plug in an external mic. Really cool - I am getting one soon!

Gideon Shalwick

[wilsvlog]

@GideonShalwick wat model is that?

[kgilmo01]

Question - Do you need any class of SD card for the HD video files for uploading them onto your computer?

[elliottsongs]

Very helpful...thanks!

[kiwikraze565]

hehe he said zed. =3

[poolboyinla]

I am a video professional and have owned both a Kodak ZI6 and a Flip Ultra HD. I will make your decision easy. DON'T BUY THE FLIP!

It is an expensive piece of shit. Most editing programs can't edit mp4. Also, the flip customer service is worthless. Also, most people, myself included, have problems with the battery.

Don't buy the Flip.

[satancouldkillyounow]

@poolboyinla A "video professional"? LOL. Go back to cleaning pools and sucking cock.

[TheArizonaExperience]

i have got the kodak and i have to say u would have to be an idiot to not be able to figure out what stuff does... it has five buttons and took me like two minutes in the crar

[poolboyinla]

@JayHyphenMichael Sounds like you will be doing a lot more converting. The Flip Ultra saves files as mp4.

[TheMatt7000]

Haha, I like how you say "Z" like "Zed" :). Great review too. Very professional and high quality!

[bradbeckett]

Gideon - What camera and audio setup did you use to film this video? Looks like an SLR video I like the depth of field and high quality audio!

[reincarnage256]

@bradbeckett i second that

[TammyFlores1]

MOV is limited to what programs you can edit in. I've been using CyberLink which has a pretty neat program Power Director 8. Lots of neat tricks.

[MyFlipBlog]

you might want to hold off buying the zi8!

The Kodak Playtouch comes out this month, all the same features but bigger screen, one stop brighter and a headphone jack!

[clatterowls]

Hi nice review! I'm a student filmmaker just about to start film school! I already own a decent camera for "PROPER" filmmaking but am looking for a new small camera for little videos like behind the scenes and that kind of thing. Untill your review i have been in favour of the ZI8 but after your review i'm not so sure. I do think though that the bad points about the ZI8 don't really play much of a negative to me and i definitely prefer having the audio out jack. Thanks for the good review.

[Guachapeli]

¿cual es mas barata en españa?

[ghap4a]

Wonderful review, I just bought a flip one 720 and I really love it ;D

[FrancoisHBear]

Hi Gideon, great review - covered all the bases. What are your thoughts on the Iphone 4? Also, I don't have an RCA voice recorder but do have a recorder adapter for my ipod - which I guess is another option (although it eats up battery!)

[OutOfaBlueSky]

I modified my Zi8 to attach a stepdown ring take a 39mm lens. The Zi8 wins hands down in the zi8 vs FlipHD.

[matnorcipan]

I love Kodak Zi8 and I preferred to buy it instead Ultra Flip HD.

[RunToWin]

Nice comparison, Gideon.

I'm glad that you finally released RVB when you did, since I'd just gotten a cheap RCA voice recorder anyway and your method of syncing them up has *vastly* improved the sound quality on my videos. Add in some of your recording and setup tips from the course and all is well.

I'm still using my flip mino (HD came out a week after I purchased it) but I was chatting with a friend last week that's a sound engineer and he's going to lend me his mino HD to try out.

[FenderGibsonWashburn]

I started off with the regular (non HD) Flip camera. They are much less expensive since the HD version came out. I use a RCA digital voice recorder I paid less than $40 for. It has a microphone input, records in wave format, and has a pop out USB connection. It's a step down from what you have but you can still upload in HD with a couple editing tricks.

[theflip]

Thanks for the review!

[PagosaGal]

I have wondered about these two cameras for a while. thanks!!!

[ericsurf6]

Nice review Gideon ! I also use Sony Vegas, so the Flip ultra HD would be best for me too....Say, how's business ?

[GideonShalwick]

@ericsurf6 Hey Eric - business is going GREAT! Actually, I was thinking about you the other day... and that you might enjoy my latest report (Rapid Video Blogging) - it could help leverage your following on YouTube tremendously and help you make quite a bit more money in the process. Have you met up with Jay Jay yet?

[MichaelDadona]

Thanks for your general views on that both cameras. Whatever, O do agree with your principle point on Vlog is much important nowadays.

[mantic59]

did you receive any of these products free in return for doing this video?

[GideonShalwick]

@mantic59 nope! just doing it for the love of it ;)

[webvideomktg]

Hi Gideon,

Thanks for the great review. 2 thins that I would like to mention is a) with the Kodak Zi8, you don;t need to use the USB port to dowlnload your files. Downloading is easily accomplished by simply plugging your HD card into a card reader which you can get free when you buy certain HD cards. Secondly, I I use Sony Vegas 10 for editing and have not experienced any problems integrating the two. All in all your videos are very informative and the type camera is just a personal choice.

[THEJORDANM360]

wot about prices?????????

[khan00716]

nice =)) how can i find you you on Facebook?

[TechnicalTechNick121]

great vid :D