i didnt say israel wasnt responsible somehow for the massacre i was saying that these massacres were daily occurance between labanonese people. and most of them were with much highers casualties. the thing is people made it look like its the big massacre of the war that israel made. but the arabs massacred each other daily and nothing was heard of it until israel was involved...people should understand massacre would happen in labanon with or without israel being there
@Sextorator Why blame Israel ? becasue they are to blame. They had control of the camp and conspired in this massacre, the Israeli even said Sharon is to blame, Israel is an illegal entity occupying Arab land they must be destroyed and the land must be liberated.
israel is an illegal entity? a majority of 160 and something countries woted for the existance of israel in 1948 and israel is a country that a member in UN since then. israel is a fully democratic country with no death penalty and a very good justice system, unlike the all the other arab countries where you can be executed for beign gay, stealing or if your a woman than put to death for cheating, in a public square. in israel everybody is equal infront of the law even the enemies
israel is an illegal entity? a majority of 160 and something countries woted for the existance of israel in 1948 and israel is a country that a member in UN since then. israel is a fully democratic country with no death penalty and a very good justice system, unlike the all the other arab countries where you can be executed for beign gay, stealing or if your a woman than put to death for cheating, in a public square. in israel everybody is equal infront of the law even the enemies
search the jews! behind every massacre you find a jew. that fucking dirty aft bastard sharon has commited this massacre with christian kataeb party..Don't Forget, Don't Forgive! Remember your ennemy, one day you will meet him !
everybody sees the palastinien refugees's sufferings in this massacred but nobody sees the other unfilmed massacres commited by the palastinies in the labanonise war, and this case it seems to be wrong picture depicted of one side suffering trough the war
@Sextorator What complete nonsense. Sharon and Eitan prior to the massacre initiated meetings with the Phalangist militia staff, and informed them that the PLO was to blame for Bashir Gemayel's assassination - a fabrication of course. Israel supplied the Phalangists with jeeps to facilitate entry into the camps and Israel invited them in and issued guidelines to the militiamen on how to enter the camps. Israel even sent illuminating flares into the air to aid them in massacring civilians.
you should learn about the other massacres that were much worse than sabra and shatila.
the IDF didnt give them guidelines on how to kill ceviliens only about the tarain and where the PLO is located.
the killing cevilians was all the choice of the phalangists, and the phalangists werent new to massacres they commited a lot of other massacres much before the IDF was in lebanon.
the lebanonise people have a rich history of killing each other in massacres why blame it on the IDF
@Sextorator Yes they did issue guidelines regarding entry into the camps, not to mention falsified information that Gemayel had been assassinated by the PLO. Even if the IDF was somehow not responsible for the entry of the Phalangists into the camps in full consciousness of the devastating consequences the IDF received reports of the massacres as they were occurring but refused to initiate any action to stop them. On September 16 at 11 pm a report was circulated to IDF HQ in East Beirut which...
@Sextorator 2 - ...essentially stated that up to 300 people including civilians had been murdered in the camps. The report was later forwarded to the IDF HQ in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem where it was seen by over 20 Israeli senior military officials, but of course eliciting nothing more than a yawn from them. The Kahan Commission also cited Lieutenant Avi Grabowsky who on September 17 issued a statement to the battalion commander after having witnessed the deaths of 5 women and children explicitly..
@Sextorator 3 - ...calling for the military to refrain from interference in the massacres. On that day after meetings between the Phalangist staff and Israeli military officials, the Israeli Chief of staff concluded that the Phalangists must continue their operation in mopping up empty camps south of Fakahani until 5 am on September 18 where they had to stop out of Israeli fears of US pressure. Just read the Kahan Commission to find out more. But its ok if you want to ignore reality completely.
many massacres commited by christians and muslims alike, against each other. the Damour Massacre, the Karantina Massacre and the Tel Al-Zaatar massacre were the biggest massacres aside other smallest massacres.
the Karantina & Dmour massacres were comited by the PLO. the bigest massacre was the Tel Al-Zaatar massacre by the christian falngas and the bodycount at that massacre was 2,000.
and these christian militias were armed, trained and paid by the israeli jews. one ex mossad guy admitted it in a interview years ago. its a open secret
u should of been expelled out of lebanon. u started massacring lebanese ALL over lebanon with ur PLO thugs first &tried to liberate ur fucking lost country south of our border using our homes as ur
shields to fight israelis.never once has any of u ungrateful ppl apologized for the atrocities u comiited against us FIRST. still expect more. GET OUT OF LEBANON.u kicked thousands of lebanese out of their homes yet none of these ever got money
anyewhere u go u cause problems jordan,lebanon,kuwait
what is this?The palestinians want compesation for a massacre during a civil war they STARTED?
what about compesantion for Lebanese victims murdered and traumatized by their war crimes? The people in my father which they destroyed or my grandfather's business they looted?
Even now not a single palestinian or any of the PLO has a apologized for what they did.They stole billions of dollars from banks in beirut and still now not a cent paid back, They bankrupt our nation and WE still owe them?
If anyone is interested in this event they should read Robert Fisks "Pity the Nation",Bob was one of the first international journalists to enter the camps,in fact they were still killing the inhabitants as Bob was entering the camp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@RainbowCamel58,i will take your advice and check out that book by Tom Friedman,i heard he was a great writer,if you are interested in another two jewish american writers going head to head in a debate about israel/palestine crisis i will send you the link here,its dershowitz and chomsky,very interesting debate,peace brother.
Lebanon had 12 yr old boys with A.K. 47s asking people in cars what religion they are & killing the Christians.
You don't need a fight against them to have parents who beat up their children to make them terrorists; it was already happening & still is.
By the way I personally know 1 of those 12 yr olds & that is his 1st memory because he repressed his past & he is much older than me so the world of Lebannon has been shit for a long time & doesn't need Christians to make it tough on them.
The Lebanese civil war was fought between lebnese christians, sunnies, shiities, and druze. They all did the same thing. they all killed civilians. They all massacred entire villages. they were all the same. terrorism is not the sole property of islam. Judiasm and Christianity play a big role.
That's just amazing how S&S is always remembered as "Zionist crime" and not the crime of the people WHO ACTUALLY DID IT - the Lebanese Christian Arabs. Apparently, the fact that Israel did not prevent this massacre is much more appalling than Arabs massacring their Arabic brethren. BTW, S&S was ONLY ONE out of 4 other massacres (some bloodier than this one). What, you didn't know that?? How surprising...
An armed man breaks down your door and enters your house wielding a knife. The offender runs towards you and demands that you give up your possessions and give him ownership of your home. You run to call the police, but the offender blocks access to the phone. You run to another phone to call the police, and the police arrive on the scene.
@manifeste666 Yes, but were sponsored by the Israeli Zionists, who were allies of the murderers of this slaughter, the Kaateb of Lebanon, by this action ceased to be Christian Zionists accept their responsibility, regardless of non-soiled hands this time.
i didnt say israel wasnt responsible somehow for the massacre i was saying that these massacres were daily occurance between labanonese people. and most of them were with much highers casualties. the thing is people made it look like its the big massacre of the war that israel made. but the arabs massacred each other daily and nothing was heard of it until israel was involved...people should understand massacre would happen in labanon with or without israel being there
Sextorator 6 months ago
@Sextorator Why blame Israel ? becasue they are to blame. They had control of the camp and conspired in this massacre, the Israeli even said Sharon is to blame, Israel is an illegal entity occupying Arab land they must be destroyed and the land must be liberated.
kocktoe 5 months ago
@kocktoe
israel is an illegal entity? a majority of 160 and something countries woted for the existance of israel in 1948 and israel is a country that a member in UN since then. israel is a fully democratic country with no death penalty and a very good justice system, unlike the all the other arab countries where you can be executed for beign gay, stealing or if your a woman than put to death for cheating, in a public square. in israel everybody is equal infront of the law even the enemies
Sextorator 5 months ago
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@kocktoe
israel is an illegal entity? a majority of 160 and something countries woted for the existance of israel in 1948 and israel is a country that a member in UN since then. israel is a fully democratic country with no death penalty and a very good justice system, unlike the all the other arab countries where you can be executed for beign gay, stealing or if your a woman than put to death for cheating, in a public square. in israel everybody is equal infront of the law even the enemies
Sextorator 5 months ago
A BIG FUCK YOU TO ISRAEL
bulerias81 1 year ago 2
Was a genocide horrible.
ischixoch 1 year ago
search the jews! behind every massacre you find a jew. that fucking dirty aft bastard sharon has commited this massacre with christian kataeb party..Don't Forget, Don't Forgive! Remember your ennemy, one day you will meet him !
01Novembre1954 1 year ago
civil war.
everybody sees the palastinien refugees's sufferings in this massacred but nobody sees the other unfilmed massacres commited by the palastinies in the labanonise war, and this case it seems to be wrong picture depicted of one side suffering trough the war
Sextorator 2 years ago
this massacres happaned due to the civil war in lebanon between the christians and muslims.
nobody knows about all this other massacres among them massacres comited by palastiniens against foreign workers and christian cevilians unarmed.
the only reason the israel got all the hot fire about the Sabra and Shatila massacre is beacuse simply they were there when it happaned.
the lebanonise would of massacred each other with out anyinvolvment from the israeli army as a part of they'r on going
Sextorator 2 years ago
@Sextorator What complete nonsense. Sharon and Eitan prior to the massacre initiated meetings with the Phalangist militia staff, and informed them that the PLO was to blame for Bashir Gemayel's assassination - a fabrication of course. Israel supplied the Phalangists with jeeps to facilitate entry into the camps and Israel invited them in and issued guidelines to the militiamen on how to enter the camps. Israel even sent illuminating flares into the air to aid them in massacring civilians.
alien1tau9 7 months ago
@alien1tau9
you should learn about the other massacres that were much worse than sabra and shatila.
the IDF didnt give them guidelines on how to kill ceviliens only about the tarain and where the PLO is located.
the killing cevilians was all the choice of the phalangists, and the phalangists werent new to massacres they commited a lot of other massacres much before the IDF was in lebanon.
the lebanonise people have a rich history of killing each other in massacres why blame it on the IDF
Sextorator 7 months ago
@Sextorator Yes they did issue guidelines regarding entry into the camps, not to mention falsified information that Gemayel had been assassinated by the PLO. Even if the IDF was somehow not responsible for the entry of the Phalangists into the camps in full consciousness of the devastating consequences the IDF received reports of the massacres as they were occurring but refused to initiate any action to stop them. On September 16 at 11 pm a report was circulated to IDF HQ in East Beirut which...
alien1tau9 6 months ago
@Sextorator 2 - ...essentially stated that up to 300 people including civilians had been murdered in the camps. The report was later forwarded to the IDF HQ in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem where it was seen by over 20 Israeli senior military officials, but of course eliciting nothing more than a yawn from them. The Kahan Commission also cited Lieutenant Avi Grabowsky who on September 17 issued a statement to the battalion commander after having witnessed the deaths of 5 women and children explicitly..
alien1tau9 6 months ago
@Sextorator 3 - ...calling for the military to refrain from interference in the massacres. On that day after meetings between the Phalangist staff and Israeli military officials, the Israeli Chief of staff concluded that the Phalangists must continue their operation in mopping up empty camps south of Fakahani until 5 am on September 18 where they had to stop out of Israeli fears of US pressure. Just read the Kahan Commission to find out more. But its ok if you want to ignore reality completely.
alien1tau9 6 months ago
many massacres commited by christians and muslims alike, against each other. the Damour Massacre, the Karantina Massacre and the Tel Al-Zaatar massacre were the biggest massacres aside other smallest massacres.
the Karantina & Dmour massacres were comited by the PLO. the bigest massacre was the Tel Al-Zaatar massacre by the christian falngas and the bodycount at that massacre was 2,000.
Sextorator 2 years ago
EVERYBODY SHOULD READ THIS !!!
sabra & shatila massacre was only one massacre case out of tens in lebanon and one of the smallest.
in the labnese civil war and in the labnonese war with israel there were
Sextorator 2 years ago
goyim kills goyim and they blame SHARON
yochananbenzakkai 2 years ago
@yochananbenzakkai
Fuck you, you zionist motherfucker! I Hope Sharon continiues to stays alive, and suffer!! Death is to good for this bastard!
Tookrati 1 year ago
what about Saddam Hussein
werent he involved aswell ?
69bash69ur69mum69 2 years ago
what did this guy do.?
Guitarherotimmydude 2 years ago
pity the nation
anonymouz89 2 years ago
and these christian militias were armed, trained and paid by the israeli jews. one ex mossad guy admitted it in a interview years ago. its a open secret
happosai27 2 years ago
u should of been expelled out of lebanon. u started massacring lebanese ALL over lebanon with ur PLO thugs first &tried to liberate ur fucking lost country south of our border using our homes as ur
shields to fight israelis.never once has any of u ungrateful ppl apologized for the atrocities u comiited against us FIRST. still expect more. GET OUT OF LEBANON.u kicked thousands of lebanese out of their homes yet none of these ever got money
anyewhere u go u cause problems jordan,lebanon,kuwait
LebaneseNotArab 2 years ago
what is this?The palestinians want compesation for a massacre during a civil war they STARTED?
what about compesantion for Lebanese victims murdered and traumatized by their war crimes? The people in my father which they destroyed or my grandfather's business they looted?
Even now not a single palestinian or any of the PLO has a apologized for what they did.They stole billions of dollars from banks in beirut and still now not a cent paid back, They bankrupt our nation and WE still owe them?
BrigitteTrashGabriel 2 years ago 2
If anyone is interested in this event they should read Robert Fisks "Pity the Nation",Bob was one of the first international journalists to enter the camps,in fact they were still killing the inhabitants as Bob was entering the camp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thomasg74 2 years ago
i dont know about this Bob guy. Tom Friedman is good though. He's an american jew who was also there.
Read *From Beirut To Lebanon*
RainbowCamel58 2 years ago
@RainbowCamel58,i will take your advice and check out that book by Tom Friedman,i heard he was a great writer,if you are interested in another two jewish american writers going head to head in a debate about israel/palestine crisis i will send you the link here,its dershowitz and chomsky,very interesting debate,peace brother.
thomasg74 2 years ago
Lebanon had 12 yr old boys with A.K. 47s asking people in cars what religion they are & killing the Christians.
You don't need a fight against them to have parents who beat up their children to make them terrorists; it was already happening & still is.
By the way I personally know 1 of those 12 yr olds & that is his 1st memory because he repressed his past & he is much older than me so the world of Lebannon has been shit for a long time & doesn't need Christians to make it tough on them.
ABAisSCIENCE 2 years ago
The Lebanese civil war was fought between lebnese christians, sunnies, shiities, and druze. They all did the same thing. they all killed civilians. They all massacred entire villages. they were all the same. terrorism is not the sole property of islam. Judiasm and Christianity play a big role.
RainbowCamel58 2 years ago
That's just amazing how S&S is always remembered as "Zionist crime" and not the crime of the people WHO ACTUALLY DID IT - the Lebanese Christian Arabs. Apparently, the fact that Israel did not prevent this massacre is much more appalling than Arabs massacring their Arabic brethren. BTW, S&S was ONLY ONE out of 4 other massacres (some bloodier than this one). What, you didn't know that?? How surprising...
froimv 3 years ago
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An armed man breaks down your door and enters your house wielding a knife. The offender runs towards you and demands that you give up your possessions and give him ownership of your home. You run to call the police, but the offender blocks access to the phone. You run to another phone to call the police, and the police arrive on the scene.
Who gets arrested?
tanticient 3 years ago
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It's just a tit for tat game!
And why does the US always have to get involved?
Let them fight their own battles, we give them all the arms they need!
Bring our guys home NOW & let the whole Middle East burn!
BobbieandSteveDooley 3 years ago
Fuck israelis and all of the other jewish scum that infests the world.
Landwarrior2 3 years ago
Murderous zionists!
elgwid 3 years ago
it were christians who did this...
manifeste666 3 years ago 3
@manifeste666 Yes, but were sponsored by the Israeli Zionists, who were allies of the murderers of this slaughter, the Kaateb of Lebanon, by this action ceased to be Christian Zionists accept their responsibility, regardless of non-soiled hands this time.
ischixoch 1 year ago 2
dont you only blame the Israelis for this? or share the blame with the Militias.
Khamdam 4 years ago
What happen to that fat-dying-bastard Ariel Sharon?
labu777 4 years ago 6
hell is waiting for him and for all the the israelies
wakid1989 3 years ago
Ameen!
labu777 3 years ago
my condolences to the family of the victims of the Shabra and Shatilla massacre
untouchabledon 4 years ago 2