they blow cause... every bike on the planet needs to be riding soft for the first 10 hours. im saying... start it let it idle... stop let cool down... go do 1 lap... stop it let it cool... to that around 5 times change oil... to that for the first 10 hours on a new bike and youl never blow
lol last week i helped push a '10 ktm450sx quad off the track after it blew up after only 10 hours hahaha then i raced another one at tomahawk and beat it. And AustinSwope had to get rid of his ktm450xc and get a trx450r cause he had to rebuild it like 3 times in 2 months. No offense, stock for stock this quad is a beast but once modded, it's no better then anything else. My ltr has had no problems ever and pulls very hard.
Pouring smoke? that's a different story then. I'll tell you what happen then: the person who did the service, overfill the oil and it got sucked into the carb and inside the engine, hence the smoke and possibly the engine is gonna blow if you don't stop. It's not the first neither the second that happens. Here's the warning: the oil in the oil screen when the engine is cold, must be in the BOTTOM and when the engine is warm, must be half way up, NOT MORE!
@Bodyguard3164 lol wrong. The head gasket blew and possibly more, but i couldn't stay to talk to him. I just helped them get it back to their trailer then i had to go to the gate for my next race.But he came up at the end of my last class that day and shook my hand and asked me my name and we talked for a little bit but i didn't ask wat else happened :(
@VELASQUEZx679 i have no idea wat ur talking about.....but it wasn't my quad. mine works fine cause it's not a ktm. If they were so great, the would still be sold, but they aren't cause no body wanted them. not enough performance for the money.
@fox13z400 the reason y they r not sold is bc the economy and exchange rates. and they are still sold in europe, asia, and austrialia. just not in north america, south america, and africa. and if u didnt notice, they dont cost 11k to 13k theyre like 6 to 8k now.
@JendrusZbojnik not here in the USA they aren't? idk what dealer your at. But even if they were, i probably wouldn't buy one. id stick with suzuki or get a yamaha. I like ktm, don't get me wrong, i just like their bikes. their quads are no doubt the best "stock" race quads, but nobody races a stock quad, and if u do ur gunna get beat.
@JendrusZbojnik true, but usually every rider who switched to suzuki did better. even if they didn't switch to the factory team. Ex. cody gibson switched from his kawi to a suzuki when he became a pro.
Well this weekend I found something out. And that is that the quad doesnt matter cause i beat a ktm 450 at breezewood proving grounds and all i have is my '07 ltr450 with a slip on Yoshimura and cherry bomb. So u can have ur WAY over priced quad and ill take my ltr and still win.
The quad does matter but the pilot matters more of course...
Imagine the following situation: in a competition, your engine blews and your crew have to take out the engine and put a new one. In the KTM they do that in few minutes but in the LTR is a pain in the ass!
These details have to be paid!
But of course you ppl only see what quad wins but don't see the rest for the average daily rider lolol
Wat r u talking about in the second part of wat u said? i dont understand wat ur tring to say? and how is taking a blown engine out of a ktm 450 easier? Plus if ktm was so amazing then more pple would run them. I bet twice as many pple use suzuki then they do ktms with quads.
Taking the engine out in the KTM is much easier than the LTR. I know this because i've done the 2 lolol the LTR is a pain in the ass, so much wires, battery etc the engine in the KTM can even be pulled out both sides of the quad. How about that for being easy to work on?
Ppl don't buy because it's expensive and it's a quad to race on the track. Requires high service etc
It's a quad to race out of the box. True race ready, not the bullsh*t yamaha and suzuki advertises...
true i dont think suzuki or yamaha is truly race race ready outa the box. But they r easy to make race ready. A ktm would only be a race bike at maybe B class. After that ur guna need head porting and new cams and and atleast and exhaust. Any quad is guna need that stuff to be totally ready.
hey body gaurd wut u think i should get i do trail and mx tracks but i rip through trails dont like to go slow lol so shouldi get the 525 xc or 505 sx i waz thinking sx lol but dunno wut do u think?
Good luck with that. If you put 7000 in a brand new LTR, that means the total cost of your quad will be around 14G. Well the KTM costs 11000 and that leaves 3000 to invest in the KTM: full exhaust, JD Jetting Kit, CP 13.5:1 and web cams stage 2.
GOOD LUCK tearing this SX with your LTR hahahahahah in your dreams
lol :P i have to agree wiht he other guy one this im getting a 505 sx and i have to say it kill the suzuki =P and for the price well its good becuz ktms engines are the best and all and there race ready i dunno about suzukis thou
Well depends on what you're doing with it. If you go for a lot of trails, go with the 525XC, it was made for that. If you go for MX tracks, the SX is the best!
Apart from this, the 505SX is more powerfull than the 525XC but has a bit less torque in low/midrange...
Hey man seems you don't know much about KTM because only this way your ignorance is acceptable. Do you know KTM SX has a WET weight os 365lbs? that's wet and not DRY like all the other manufacturers state lol
LTR 450 has a WET weight of 414.5lbs so DO THE MATH.
I have proof of this, a friend of mine weighted both on a industrial scale so.
If you don't know about KTM so well, i'm not gonna lose my with you...
LTR 450 QuadRacer in my opinion is better KTM,s have never proven themselves to be reliable they need more maintainence more than any other brand you might aswell buy a LTR 450 and fit a YOSHIMURA RS5 pipe on their and ur ready to go
No. For a LTR to hang with a KTM 450SX it needs: full pipe, filter, PC. And this is to keep up with the STOCK 450SX because if you remove snorkel from the SX, take off lid box and put a jdjetting kit in the carb, it'll go away...
You have to remind one thing, the SX it's not only more powerfull than the LTR, it also is 50lbs LIGHTER and that means more acceleration!
I know that but a 450SX with snorkel removed, lid box removed and carburetor properly tuned with JD Jetting kit, makes 49HP!! and i have several dynos to prove it also. Also as i said, the 450SX is 50lbs lighter than the LTR so the LTR can't touch it lolol
Why is it so hard for you guys to accept the KTM SX is the fastest and lightest sport quad LOL
yea but if i tool all th emoney i would save from a ktm450sx and put it into a ltr450 and made them both the same price then the ltr would eat the ktm alive. the ktm cost to much for as little of power as u get.
Don't be so sure about that. A friend of mine has a LTR 493cc and a 505 with exhaust and filter only. He rides both and says the SX is as fast as the LTR so, take your conclusions.
Again, the money the KTM costs more than the others, is justified not only by more performance. It has better quality, better components, better brakes, better ergonomy, easily serviceable etc
that proves that the ltr450 is a better quad then the ktm. if i put like another 7 grand into a ltr450 it would kill any ktm. they just arent worth the price period. any1 will agree with me on that. o and like i said u r wrong about the weight thing.
u r the biggest dickhead honestly go stick ur pin in ur little ltr and stop being jealous of us because we can afford a good quality bike( ktm) while you go ride your little pee wee 50.
its just a fact that if u put the diffrence in money wise a ltr would destrou a ktm. maybe not a 505 bu ti twould beat a 450sx. besides suzuki owns all other quads anyway. it won the gncc champion chip and the mx champion chip. wats ktm got??? an over priced quad that only a handful of people own.
your a idiot and obviously know nothing of KTM. KTM makes the best quad period. why dont you take your suck dookie and go shut the hell up and stop talking of things you nothing about.
stock for stock yea they do make the best quad period. However if i took the amount of money i could save from buying a ktm and put it into another quad like my ltr i would own the ktm. i got my brand new ltr450 for only like $4,800.
dont be mad if my ltr can beat ur ktm that u over paid on lol I rode a ktm 450sx today and it does have realy nice power and all but it is also very smooth. it had a fmf pipe on it too and i realy liked it. But i just dont think they are worth as much as they charge for them. O and im talking about the 450sx dirt bike which is even faster than the quad.
@barbaro359 my pee wee 50? what quad was kicking every other brands ass? yeah, that would be a suzuki ltr450. sine its introduction, it's won every year in the atva nationals and now also has 2 going on 3 gncc titles. where's the ktm? o yea that's right, it's in the shop being fixed for way to much money than it should take lol
They are proving already to be reliable, just watch the races LOL!!! as far as maintenance, it's a race quad man, what are you expecting? what kind of maintenance do you think Wimmer's LTR or Borich LTR has? sometimes you guys don't seem to have a clue of what you're saying do you? lol jeez....
OH, C MON!!!!! KTM DIDNT EVEN RACE IN THE AMA PRO ATV , the ltr 450, the yfz 450r, the kfx 450, can am ds 450, can run over these atv any moment any time... Shane Hitt vs Dustin Wimmer..., shane hitt..... fucked up
man i want to ride for ktm atvs in the gncc iv been riding dirtbikes past couple years but wanna get into atvs how would i even get a shot at teh KTM quad team?
you guys should have put mark freeman to test it he'll let you know if it's good or bad!
guidonumber1 4 months ago
but its a 505
ingonumb 1 year ago
song?
erwinees 1 year ago
they blow cause... every bike on the planet needs to be riding soft for the first 10 hours. im saying... start it let it idle... stop let cool down... go do 1 lap... stop it let it cool... to that around 5 times change oil... to that for the first 10 hours on a new bike and youl never blow
2000kx1252 1 year ago
lol last week i helped push a '10 ktm450sx quad off the track after it blew up after only 10 hours hahaha then i raced another one at tomahawk and beat it. And AustinSwope had to get rid of his ktm450xc and get a trx450r cause he had to rebuild it like 3 times in 2 months. No offense, stock for stock this quad is a beast but once modded, it's no better then anything else. My ltr has had no problems ever and pulls very hard.
fox13z400 1 year ago
@fox13z400
The thing is, the people forget as it's a race ready quad, it demands a race service schedule. So the problems happen of course...
Bodyguard3164 1 year ago 2
@Bodyguard3164 not after 10 they shouldn't. It was pooring smoke all over the place and wouldn't even start.
fox13z400 1 year ago
@fox13z400
Pouring smoke? that's a different story then. I'll tell you what happen then: the person who did the service, overfill the oil and it got sucked into the carb and inside the engine, hence the smoke and possibly the engine is gonna blow if you don't stop. It's not the first neither the second that happens. Here's the warning: the oil in the oil screen when the engine is cold, must be in the BOTTOM and when the engine is warm, must be half way up, NOT MORE!
Bodyguard3164 1 year ago
@Bodyguard3164 lol wrong. The head gasket blew and possibly more, but i couldn't stay to talk to him. I just helped them get it back to their trailer then i had to go to the gate for my next race.But he came up at the end of my last class that day and shook my hand and asked me my name and we talked for a little bit but i didn't ask wat else happened :(
fox13z400 1 year ago
@fox13z400 then you probably didn't break it in. Because mine works fine.
VELASQUEZx679 11 months ago
@VELASQUEZx679 i have no idea wat ur talking about.....but it wasn't my quad. mine works fine cause it's not a ktm. If they were so great, the would still be sold, but they aren't cause no body wanted them. not enough performance for the money.
fox13z400 11 months ago
@fox13z400 the reason y they r not sold is bc the economy and exchange rates. and they are still sold in europe, asia, and austrialia. just not in north america, south america, and africa. and if u didnt notice, they dont cost 11k to 13k theyre like 6 to 8k now.
JendrusZbojnik 9 months ago
@JendrusZbojnik not here in the USA they aren't? idk what dealer your at. But even if they were, i probably wouldn't buy one. id stick with suzuki or get a yamaha. I like ktm, don't get me wrong, i just like their bikes. their quads are no doubt the best "stock" race quads, but nobody races a stock quad, and if u do ur gunna get beat.
fox13z400 9 months ago
@fox13z400 thats true too. it depends on ur choice anyway. no 1 switches to companys they dont like, even if they r good.
JendrusZbojnik 9 months ago
@JendrusZbojnik true, but usually every rider who switched to suzuki did better. even if they didn't switch to the factory team. Ex. cody gibson switched from his kawi to a suzuki when he became a pro.
fox13z400 9 months ago
Yeah they are Austrian bike. Doesn't matter what you say About Germany and Belgium they are Austrian.
seananaspain 1 year ago
isn`t that a 525 not a 505 ??
yfsblasterman 2 years ago
@yfsblasterman
That is a five o five, the best sport quad in the market out of the box.
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
Well this weekend I found something out. And that is that the quad doesnt matter cause i beat a ktm 450 at breezewood proving grounds and all i have is my '07 ltr450 with a slip on Yoshimura and cherry bomb. So u can have ur WAY over priced quad and ill take my ltr and still win.
fox13z400 2 years ago
@fox13z400
The quad does matter but the pilot matters more of course...
Imagine the following situation: in a competition, your engine blews and your crew have to take out the engine and put a new one. In the KTM they do that in few minutes but in the LTR is a pain in the ass!
These details have to be paid!
But of course you ppl only see what quad wins but don't see the rest for the average daily rider lolol
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
Wat r u talking about in the second part of wat u said? i dont understand wat ur tring to say? and how is taking a blown engine out of a ktm 450 easier? Plus if ktm was so amazing then more pple would run them. I bet twice as many pple use suzuki then they do ktms with quads.
fox13z400 2 years ago
@fox13z400
Taking the engine out in the KTM is much easier than the LTR. I know this because i've done the 2 lolol the LTR is a pain in the ass, so much wires, battery etc the engine in the KTM can even be pulled out both sides of the quad. How about that for being easy to work on?
Ppl don't buy because it's expensive and it's a quad to race on the track. Requires high service etc
It's a quad to race out of the box. True race ready, not the bullsh*t yamaha and suzuki advertises...
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
true i dont think suzuki or yamaha is truly race race ready outa the box. But they r easy to make race ready. A ktm would only be a race bike at maybe B class. After that ur guna need head porting and new cams and and atleast and exhaust. Any quad is guna need that stuff to be totally ready.
fox13z400 2 years ago
@fox13z400
True. In the KTM you need exhaust, open the airbox, head work, cams and it would be ready to Pro class...
Also a revalve in the suspension would be advisable.
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
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E46MRider 2 years ago
yea .. they make a 525xc too ? and ktm are german or belgium ?
yfsblasterman 2 years ago
Yes they do make a 525xc for tight trails and cross country racing..
KTM is an Austrian company.
E46MRider 2 years ago
yea that`s why i thought it was a 525 and i`m pritty sure they make there dirtbikes in some part od germany or belgium !
yfsblasterman 2 years ago
yes. and austrian i think
huron122 2 years ago
they're austrian
bikerkid099 2 years ago
no ... dont think so ! there main factory is germany or belgium ....
yfsblasterman 2 years ago
dude i have a ktm and on it it says made in austria
bikerkid099 2 years ago
prove it .....
yfsblasterman 2 years ago
@yfsblasterman
These quads are made in the Austrian factory of Mattighofen, home of the GREAT KTM!
Bodyguard3164 1 year ago
@bikerkid099 so toyota is made in america and its japanese everything we own is made in china eho cares where its made its where the money goes
rc8rsracer 1 year ago
@yfsblasterman sory man but you are wrong. I own my second KTM and its made in Mattingofen,Austria
anemos24210 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
That's a 505sx in the vid..
KTM sx quads destroy the japanese manufacturers in so may ways it's ridiculous..
KTM FTMFW! I'm getting one soon!
E46MRider 2 years ago
@E46MRIDER -read my other comment !
yfsblasterman 2 years ago
this argument is so much more entertaining then anything else. could you add more?
hugubull 2 years ago
hey body gaurd wut u think i should get i do trail and mx tracks but i rip through trails dont like to go slow lol so shouldi get the 525 xc or 505 sx i waz thinking sx lol but dunno wut do u think?
DonutRvBdefender 2 years ago
If the trails you ride are not to tight, get the SX. It's a more powerful engine, more stable etc
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
kk thx yah ill get the sx then becuz i dont ride tight trails
DonutRvBdefender 2 years ago
This is for all you out there that doubt KTM SX is worth the money it costs: GO OUT AND RIDE ONE. SEE FOR YOURSELF AND THEN COME HERE TALK....
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
id rather have a lrt cus its less expensive and i could take the extra money and build up the ltr and tear a sx to hell..sorry
RideHardBoi427 2 years ago
Good luck with that. If you put 7000 in a brand new LTR, that means the total cost of your quad will be around 14G. Well the KTM costs 11000 and that leaves 3000 to invest in the KTM: full exhaust, JD Jetting Kit, CP 13.5:1 and web cams stage 2.
GOOD LUCK tearing this SX with your LTR hahahahahah in your dreams
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
a ktm around here cost like 12-13 grand.
fox13z400 2 years ago
I'm sorry to hear that...
Where i live, costs around 11G but you can get it even for less than that...
Some people are buying the 505SX below 10G...
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
yea but rightnow i cant ride anyway. i broke my hand lol
fox13z400 2 years ago
lol :P i have to agree wiht he other guy one this im getting a 505 sx and i have to say it kill the suzuki =P and for the price well its good becuz ktms engines are the best and all and there race ready i dunno about suzukis thou
DonutRvBdefender 2 years ago
whats better the 505 sx or the 525 xc
marti400ex 2 years ago
Well depends on what you're doing with it. If you go for a lot of trails, go with the 525XC, it was made for that. If you go for MX tracks, the SX is the best!
Apart from this, the 505SX is more powerfull than the 525XC but has a bit less torque in low/midrange...
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
then the 525 xc would be better cuzz im always on the trail ripping it up whit my buddys and tnx
marti400ex 2 years ago
the 09 525's are quicker than the 525's
barbaro359 2 years ago
you mean 505s?
XxGlamisDunerxX 2 years ago
the 505's have more power than 525's.
505's have DOHC and much higher compression, the bore is bigger which means it revs faster and the engine is a whole lot more un-choked
elliotmotoX 2 years ago
lol i just looked up the wait of a ktm450sx and it ways 368lbs my ltr450 also ways 368lbs. so its not 50lbs lighter
fox13z400 2 years ago
Hey man seems you don't know much about KTM because only this way your ignorance is acceptable. Do you know KTM SX has a WET weight os 365lbs? that's wet and not DRY like all the other manufacturers state lol
LTR 450 has a WET weight of 414.5lbs so DO THE MATH.
I have proof of this, a friend of mine weighted both on a industrial scale so.
If you don't know about KTM so well, i'm not gonna lose my with you...
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
my ltr450 is a brand new '07 and it says in the manul that it weights 368. if u dont believe me check suzukis web site.
fox13z400 2 years ago
I believe you man but that is a DRY WEIGHT and KTM is a WET WEIGHT. Do you know the difference?...
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
yes i no the diffrenece
fox13z400 2 years ago
LTR 450 QuadRacer in my opinion is better KTM,s have never proven themselves to be reliable they need more maintainence more than any other brand you might aswell buy a LTR 450 and fit a YOSHIMURA RS5 pipe on their and ur ready to go
GTAIV93 2 years ago
yep i was thinking the same thing. the ltr450 is the way to go. a ltr with a rs-5 has as much or probably more power than a ktm450sx.
fox13z400 2 years ago
No. For a LTR to hang with a KTM 450SX it needs: full pipe, filter, PC. And this is to keep up with the STOCK 450SX because if you remove snorkel from the SX, take off lid box and put a jdjetting kit in the carb, it'll go away...
You have to remind one thing, the SX it's not only more powerfull than the LTR, it also is 50lbs LIGHTER and that means more acceleration!
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
i dont no wat ur talking about but a stock 450sx makes 46hp a ltr450 with cherry bomb and pipe will make like 48. I have the dynos to back that up
fox13z400 2 years ago
I know that but a 450SX with snorkel removed, lid box removed and carburetor properly tuned with JD Jetting kit, makes 49HP!! and i have several dynos to prove it also. Also as i said, the 450SX is 50lbs lighter than the LTR so the LTR can't touch it lolol
Why is it so hard for you guys to accept the KTM SX is the fastest and lightest sport quad LOL
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
yea but if i tool all th emoney i would save from a ktm450sx and put it into a ltr450 and made them both the same price then the ltr would eat the ktm alive. the ktm cost to much for as little of power as u get.
fox13z400 2 years ago
Don't be so sure about that. A friend of mine has a LTR 493cc and a 505 with exhaust and filter only. He rides both and says the SX is as fast as the LTR so, take your conclusions.
Again, the money the KTM costs more than the others, is justified not only by more performance. It has better quality, better components, better brakes, better ergonomy, easily serviceable etc
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
that proves that the ltr450 is a better quad then the ktm. if i put like another 7 grand into a ltr450 it would kill any ktm. they just arent worth the price period. any1 will agree with me on that. o and like i said u r wrong about the weight thing.
fox13z400 2 years ago
u r the biggest dickhead honestly go stick ur pin in ur little ltr and stop being jealous of us because we can afford a good quality bike( ktm) while you go ride your little pee wee 50.
barbaro359 2 years ago 8
its just a fact that if u put the diffrence in money wise a ltr would destrou a ktm. maybe not a 505 bu ti twould beat a 450sx. besides suzuki owns all other quads anyway. it won the gncc champion chip and the mx champion chip. wats ktm got??? an over priced quad that only a handful of people own.
fox13z400 2 years ago
your a idiot and obviously know nothing of KTM. KTM makes the best quad period. why dont you take your suck dookie and go shut the hell up and stop talking of things you nothing about.
mulisha0351 2 years ago
stock for stock yea they do make the best quad period. However if i took the amount of money i could save from buying a ktm and put it into another quad like my ltr i would own the ktm. i got my brand new ltr450 for only like $4,800.
fox13z400 2 years ago
dont be mad if my ltr can beat ur ktm that u over paid on lol I rode a ktm 450sx today and it does have realy nice power and all but it is also very smooth. it had a fmf pipe on it too and i realy liked it. But i just dont think they are worth as much as they charge for them. O and im talking about the 450sx dirt bike which is even faster than the quad.
fox13z400 2 years ago
@barbaro359 my pee wee 50? what quad was kicking every other brands ass? yeah, that would be a suzuki ltr450. sine its introduction, it's won every year in the atva nationals and now also has 2 going on 3 gncc titles. where's the ktm? o yea that's right, it's in the shop being fixed for way to much money than it should take lol
fox13z400 9 months ago
They are proving already to be reliable, just watch the races LOL!!! as far as maintenance, it's a race quad man, what are you expecting? what kind of maintenance do you think Wimmer's LTR or Borich LTR has? sometimes you guys don't seem to have a clue of what you're saying do you? lol jeez....
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
witch is fast the ktm 525 xc or the 505 sx???
aussyownz16 2 years ago
505 SX
slynox 2 years ago
song and artist pleas ?
steken410 2 years ago
Ignite, fear is our tradition...
kleofaz 2 years ago
OH, C MON!!!!! KTM DIDNT EVEN RACE IN THE AMA PRO ATV , the ltr 450, the yfz 450r, the kfx 450, can am ds 450, can run over these atv any moment any time... Shane Hitt vs Dustin Wimmer..., shane hitt..... fucked up
Mateo117RAZER 2 years ago
Yeah sure lol
If they can run over these atv any moment then keep them :)
Bodyguard3164 2 years ago
Oh dear one day u will realize that KTM is the best when it comes up to motocross
KTMRacingBulgaria 2 years ago
the only reason they dint race is cauz the ktm would of raped them to bad
aussyownz16 2 years ago
i know shane he races cars with my dad so we know him pretty wel
ktmracer555 2 years ago
yea i know shane very well too.. i wash his racecar hauler and help him work on his racecar and go racing with him.. and he is a real cool guy
DIRTTRACKER16 2 years ago
man i want to ride for ktm atvs in the gncc iv been riding dirtbikes past couple years but wanna get into atvs how would i even get a shot at teh KTM quad team?
snoopydonvito 2 years ago
ya not a ltr 450 there ready to go to lol
btuftin250 2 years ago
wats the song and artist?
fox13z400 3 years ago
never had red bud before, it must get you hella blazed
krazzyguitarist 3 years ago