1993 Star of Indiana drumline

[cosmodrum1]

Wow. The closing lick changed between this and finals. Good stuff.

[Complimentaries]

I believe the word we used to describe these guys back in the day was "tasty".

[drksdofthmoon]

when will we see such tasteful beats again? This type of writing is a lost art!

[hughesmr]

Two words ... PISS clean. This line was so awesome in person.

[goldlw1]

You should change your name mobilesuit, and become a human.

[chutdigadut]

one word: CLEAN

[huskydliner609]

if only they stayed around...who knows what they could have accomplished

[mobilesuitZer0]

Uh, ever hear of Blast! dumbass?

[huskydliner609]

i meant them as a corp, not as a group. two completely different types of performing

[zacsystm5]

why do rude people like you have to finish every comment on youtube with an insult?

it doesnt add inches to your cock to be a little asshole

[mobilesuitZer0]

Sure it does! Bitch!

[JessOnTheRun]

you are a little wannabe... get lost waterboy

[mobilesuitZer0]

Cause you're so gay.

[Snebasseor]

Haha. smartass

[stevenjamesburks]

I should also add, this is a bit earlier in the season before they added the bass roll split to follow the mellophones (I don't think the mellophone part was even in yet) before the ending.

[stevenjamesburks]

I bet the baby in the lady's stroller starting at 2:00 is highly interested in excellent drumming by now.

[derekusama]

now that's an awesome comment

[1Co118]

Beautiful writing. Beautiful execution!

[DrmlnMan]

he said "a couple" of corps. so who are they?

[tmilla13300]

hes an idiot. but if youre asking for lines, Phantom 06 was scary clean, just like Star was.

as far as writing goes, he knocking the man who literally wrote the book on the activity. this is arguably the best writing out there

[Malletastic45]

no. there is no argument.... this IS the best. (both writing and execution)

[multibuddhaneo]

Not to take away from this great drumline but SCV did get top field drums in q-finals that summer.

[Malletastic45]

lol also technically best dline was cadets when they marched appalachian spring cuz that was a perfect score

[Malletastic45]

oh and honestly BD 2003 was also crazy

[Inspadave]

@tmilla13300 "the man who wrote the book on the activity" Fred Sanford wrote this book?

[RUSHofbloodtomyhead]

lol at 2:52....

[chutdigadut]

Such fucking badasses! damn!

[licksprittle]

Thanks for a comment actually related to the video... and not being a keyboard hero like the guys below us.

But yeah, these rolls were crystal... untouchable by any standards.

[Geno618ESE]

i think i jus found out who phantom got their tuning ideas from

[chutcheese]

got damn that is some clean shniz.

[sycomantz]

prolly the cleaniest drumline in drum corps history

[tchuckf0579]

Yeah, I heard the drum judge was impressed!

[sycomantz]

yeah, i remember my instructor brought us the judge's tape from finals for star.

impressed doesnt come close to what he said.

in the whole show, there was only was slighty haired note than was still clean. but the whole show was PISS clean, clean isnt good enough for how clean they were. they were emaculate

and the judge's comment was "thanks for that, now i know you guys are human"

he was absolutely floored. and so were we

[DrmlnMan]

This is good...but 06 Phantom is better. look it up

[sycomantz]

bro, are you stupid. phatoms lines are meh. rennicks writting is boring. I dig bluecoats more than PR 06

and drum corps after 2001 as a whole has been wack.

trust me, i know. i marched.

i was thoroughly upset that i came into drum corps after the best years.

[DrmlnMan]

dude. did you just call rennicks writing boring?! it's funny though how he is the most wanted arranger now days. And drum corp has changed, but mostly in a good way. Faster tempos and harder beats have made drum corp almost like a sport.

[sycomantz]

as said bro. Drum Corps best days are behind it. the best days have been gone since 01. 70's 80's and 90's were the best corp years.

DCI has turned into WGI for the summer time. thanks to hopkins getting his way

[DrmlnMan]

this is true

[sycomantz]

you obviously have no clue about good or great drumming at its best.

this is someo f the best drumming in drum corps history. not for notes but for execution and being one of the cleaniest lines in history.

you disgraced them by comparing them to phatom 06 or any PR year after 97

[DrmlnMan]

and who are you to tell me what good is? 93 indiana used to be called the cleanest line to ever touch the field, and i have never said they were bad. but PR has revolutionized the way to drum, and they do it well. 06 was the best year for PR high percussion.

[sycomantz]

haha, PR hasnt revolitionized anything.

maybe you should look bad when rennick was CH for Crown. or look at UNT lines. its the same kind of shit.

there is nothing revolutionary about reinncks writting except very bold volumes and extremely loud rim shoots.

get off his nuts

[DrmlnMan]

no, you're wrong, and i'm not going to try and convince you.

[sycomantz]

listen to 90's and back aungst, glyde. kuhn as been killing it since 99, old beddis. Colin mcnutt, hardimon wrote some good shit, mike stevens. casella and the list goes on and on.

Rennicks writting blows.

how old are you little guy. im sure you are too young to have even experienced the days of when drum corps was great

[DrmlnMan]

dude, all of this is your opinion. Drum corp has changed, BIG DEAL. So who's writing do you like of the more recent years?

[sycomantz]

very watered down, very wgi-ish, very GE oriented.

the days of great performances, musically, drill, visual effect, while being difficult has been long gone since startingaround 98. with the exception of a few corps

Kuhn and mcnutt has been the only guys consistently writting tasteful shit. IMO

as said. i have always felt rennicks writting was boring.

[sycomantz]

yeah, for the WORST. i lke kuhn, mcnutt and maybe one or two other. i honestly stopped paying attention to drum corps big time around 04/05.

Drum corps doesnt have that "it" or "wow" factor it use to have

people like glyde and aungst need to retire. their writting is shit compared to what they use to write.

other than that. drum corps has a whole is just in a bad state.

[Tgas123]

i say you can shut the f*ck up

[sycomantz]

i say you learn what good drumming and writting is

[DrmlnMan]

you're dumb

[sycomantz]

and you dont know what good writting is

[DrmlnMan]

pshhh...you can't even spell WRITING correctly. check out boston 09 this year when you see it. thats some good stuff

[sycomantz]

drum corp has been wack since 98 with the exception of a couple corps and lines each of those years afterwards

[DrmlnMan]

and what are the names of these lines??

[sycomantz]

you cant convince me of anything. i was on tour at shows with crown and PR while rennick was teaching

you cant tell me anything i dont know. and what i do know is that rennick doesnt write anything good. never has, never will IMO.

you want bad ass writting.

[DrmlnMan]

alright then look up 08 if you want badass writing.

[semaj09kdl]

haha thought so...used to be my instructor in high school

[offbeatbare]

Tight, he was mine in middle school. Then he quit to go to California to play in some rock band. He techs for Vanguard Cadets now.

[semaj09kdl]

hahaha yeah same here...what middle school? cause he did all my middle school stuff then part of high school down in texas

[offbeatbare]

He came to teach percussion at Doerre (my middle school) a few days out of the week, but his job was at Klein High. Is that where you went?

[semaj09kdl]

haha yeah man. good ol klein

[semaj09kdl]

was clark on this line?

[offbeatbare]

Gardner? Yes, I'm pretty sure he was drum captain.

[illBUrFriend]

This is so clean...:]

Anyone know if what they are playing is a warm-up?

[SeanChaney]

This is all part of their show.

[illBUrFriend]

ok, thanks.... :D

[FleugenFlagen]

this is the 'Bartok Percussion and Celesta' drum feature.

[NJDrumGuy02]

I don't hear any strings or Celesta in this arrangement

[FleugenFlagen]

no shit.....this is an arrangement for marching percussion.....

[tchuckf0579]

You gotta wonder what's up with some of these comments. I actually wish I could turn them off!

[drumrdude707]

holy clean beats, batman

[bluesky81214]

THOM HANNUM IS MY HERO!!!

[tmilla13300]

i second that. check out the University of Massachusetts Amherst

[cpdrumming]

Wow.. I was 16 when I firt heard this show and now at thirty these guys still stand up as ahead of our time. Say what you want about it...but there is a dept to what they did that everybody else still strives for.

[JoeGrinstead]

I'm so glad our new drum director, caption head whatever was on this line and teched at santa clara, we are so gonna kick some ass.

[JayKafka]

Hannum is SICK!

[Japnoyboi3]

I have the last part of their 93 show on my site.

[dcivinelli]

I think the drum book for this show was right on.Tasty and musical. And they executed it like bad-asses.This show was the reason Star left DCI to go do Blast!;the staff thought they got robbed for loosing to the Cadets.Which, I think they may have a legit beef, but, damn, that '93 Cadets show was so freakin' awesome.All that "artsy" stuff Star did (movements, guard implements) was absolutely copped by a lot of other corps for years to come. BTW, Lee Beddis was one of the instructors this year.

[resq51kmg365]

Actually, the management had already planned Stars exit prior to this season. Of course no one told us until it was over..... :(

[ehsoftjunkie]

my band director is torn over that, he marched w/ the cadets, and instructed the star of indiana drumline every year they were in existence. poor guy, hes the best

[jesusFreak0321]

dan hostetler.

[sooldanbar]

I cry when I watch this line play, so tight and musical.

[keeper813]

their so ahead of their time...

[LovesToDrum1984]

Where do you get the judge tapes... I'm been looking everywhere for them!

[pheel23]

Yeah, these guys were freakin clean, and they did a ton of stuff you would have never caught watching the videos. Three tenors!

[bguertner]

SO TASTY! One of my absolute favorite solos ever. Piss clean. Finals was perfect.

[henne2k]

Best there is, best there was, best there ever will be!

I didn´t liked the show, but when I saw arecording of just Drums, I was totaly blown away!!!!

It´s the only time I saw a Drumline play that amount of notes that freaking interesting that you hold your breath!

At the end it wasn´t a roll, it where singels!

[DoctorGrundlewald]

Check out my vids I am an egotistical asshole check me out now or die

[SteveMjazz]

I'm not to sure about this but i think my High School Drum teacher Charlie Poole also either taught or wrote music for this corps. Does anyone know who Charlie Poole is ?? He Teachers at Everett High School at the present time and he he taught me the basic and i applied it to playing bass drum. we were very good.

[phil970hayes]

Charile Poole was a DCI judge when I marched (1992-1998). His judge tapes were HILARIOUS.

[Bah3932]

Charlie Poole didn't teach this line, but when I asked him at a rehearsal one time he told me that Star '93 was the best line he ever saw from a judge's perspective... I have the drum judge tape from finals, and it's pretty ridiculous (but really low quality).

[drums2k6]

Wow, this is before the massive triplet roll was put in at the end. Rare footage indeed.

[RCRhythm]

Triplet roll?

I always thought it was fivelet singles. (???)

[cru4you]

yeah i was thinkin same thing

[xtreme0204]

its even better when it's played ijn context of the music. By far the most musical arranger ever = Thom Hanum

[MorbidDeadGuy]

paul rennick's up there too

[xtreme0204]

definately agreed, along with those two I'd have to add Mike Macintosh and Tom Aungst for sure. Still not too sure about Scot johnson, sometimes I don't reallu understand his placement of certain phrases, then again I live and play east coast style, so that may be why.

[MorbidDeadGuy]

Agreed there too. ScoJo, I don't know, I've never really been a BD fan, I just don't care for the style. East Coast for life thug

[mannyspiferpipit]

Aungst's arranging is horrible. Thank god they have Neil doing pit or who the hell knows what would happen. Macintosh amazing. Bret Kuhn(RIP)...even more amazing. And don't forget Casella

[awefi]

What are you talking about? Can you actually point to a time where his arranging is legitimately horrible?

[mannyspiferpipit]

How about anything Cadets from 2001 to 2006. Actually, with the exception of 05, they were so clean that year that I have to give it to them, even if the music was horrible. All they do is play 32nd note doubles, six stroke rolls and paraddidle-diddles. God forbid there is some variety in Aungst's music.

[awefi]

I disagree. There is a dependency on those rudiments, but musically, i think the lines he writes run well with the horn book as a whole. I cant call him a bad arranger for not being a unique writer every year. 03-06 sounded great to me.

[hybridjohnny]

In my opinion, Kuhn's arrangement style and Aungst's arrangement's styles are very similar. Not necessarily, but lots of check patterns into rolls, paradiddles, etc. Not too much variety. Kuhn's arrangement style, however, is much more musical, as it fits with the horn book a bit better. Aungst's stuff is super thick and super busy, but it fits with Cadets' horn book.

[bguertner]

And Ralph Hardimon.

[bwh89]

ga dang