I like the picture of the fish. Even if some pictures may be two years older or more, it always seems new and interesting to people who have seen the pictures for the first time. I think the pictures are very creative.
I also took graphic design and I just graduated. My personal opinion about what to include in a portfolio is this:
Only put in work that you LOVE. If you put in something you don't absolutely love then your lack of enthusiam will come across in an interview. If you show people things you love then they see that you love what you do etc. Our teacher always said, "It's better to have 6 pieces of work that you LOVE and are happy with than 100 pieces of work that you think is crap."
i agree with the commentors that tell you to make these a hightlight in your portfolio, these are great ideas and show alot of creativity. believe in your own ideas they're good
In these guys life, you have captured a moment of happiness, love, unity and compassion. Although it be in the nature of fishing, the beauty and power of the art came through your explanation of the photos. The creative value of the photostamps is in your representation of the pieces.
The value of the art that you captured is in the visual perception of the picture. You know the story of them talking about fish and joking around. In the pictures you see happiness and love, as if they want to hug. Isn't that the artful impression that these photos present.
Hey Princesslilies. The photo stamps should be a highlight in your portfolio along with the fundraiser calendar. Making the photos into stamps is a really cool idea. ***Please make a how-to video for me. I have thousands of photos.***
Hey Princesslilies. The magazine has value because you were a part of it, but it doesn't have any designs to promote the employers impression of you. Dont discard it though... Have an overflow portfolio of creative works that you can offer interested individuals as a deeper look into the creative mind of Bryony.
If you don't like it, you didn't do much for it, and it doesn't demonstrate something you do particularly well, don't include it in your portfolio. it's as simple as that, eh?
No one will have the time to painstakingly look into everything that you have done. Perhaps it is best to put only the work of which you are most proud into your portfolio.
I guess just say "I designed a few pages, but I got a lot of experience working within a group, and understanding the steps required to produce a large project."
i wouldn't put it in just cause of the simple fact that it did not encompass your vision of the magazine. also, if u don't like it for whatever reason, then u probably shouldn't try to convince anyone else to like it. but thats my opinion...you should use your own judgement based on who u're showing it to.
Personally, I wouldn't put the magazine in, but I remember well how it's hard when you are starting out and you don't have so much to choose from. The thing to remember is that your portfolio is meant to *both* represent your skills (sorry, "skillz") *and* impress people - if it doesn't tick both boxes, it shouldn't go in.
If you can see your piece of work in it, so than you should put it in your portfolio.
You can just scan it is ... mot the whole thing ... or make some photographs of it ... and make a collections of you favorite parts of it on one paper...
The question you should ask yourself about each item in your portfolio is this. Does it display (hopefully in a good light) skills which may be pertinent to the jobs for which I am applying? It sounds like the stamps do that, but the magazine itself does not.
and as for whether you like something or not it shouldnt totally matter. yes you should include something that youre pleased with but you should still consider things that youre not as long as it has a strong point. i.e. you desgined an ad for a product and you think is totally ugly but it still conveys the message that youre trying to get across in an aesthetically pleasing way
i wouldnt put it in. usually youd only put things in a portfolio that YOU personally created YOURSELF. its nice to have works that are colaberation pieces but only if theres actually some visible proof or something that YOU did.
I vote for leaving the magazine out of the portfolio. It is nice looking, but it is really not your vision and it has a negative vibe to it....so out it goes!
I see why you have trouble with your portfolio. Every item in there you have a 10m explanation/description for. If you're feeling democratic, I vote to get rid of the magazine. If you don't like it, that'll come across to anyone looking at it too. If there's something you like inside that you're proud of, pull it out and keep just that.
I think your own words say the magazine is a no for inclusion. Yes it shows what can go wrong whn a project is run by committee but you odviously hate it and as such should pass it over, show us some of the work you are certain should be included so we can see what you are feeling positive about
Instinct, Bryony, instinct. You hate the magazine and it'll come across if it's in the portfolio and you have to talk about it. Put in stuff you're proud of, or stuff that almost worked which taught you something.
Remember that one puts together a portfolio to showcase a wide diversity of their work. An interviewer will want to see that you can apply your talent to a wide range of projects that you may be assigned, and that you produce quality work. Always choose quality over quantity.
A good rule to follow: If you don't like the work, don't put it in the portfolio. The interviewer will be able to sense your uneasiness if they ask you a question about something you don't like.
Remember that the reason one puts together a portfolio is to showcase a diverse range of work. Always choose quality over quantity, and show how your talent can be applied to different media, styles, etc. This will show an interviewer that you can easily adapt to the wide range of projects you are assigned, and that you produce high-quality work.
A good rule to follow: If you think negatively about the artwork, you should leave it out of the portfolio.
I imagine part of the assessment of a portfolio is the quality of your judgement of what is good design and what is bad design. All the time someone else is paying your wages, you will sometimes have to create things that you personally hate, but they must still be well designed :) For example, I am a professional mechanical engineer, I hate most of the lumps of ugly machinery I design and develop, but I still have to make sure they don't squish or electrocute anybody ;)
I'm not an art student, but my best friend is, and I asked her to watch so she could back up my opinion. Because I'm apparently just as needy of reassurance as you are. Heh. We agreed you should pick some of the photos of the fishermen and show those in an attractive page of the portfolio because you seemed to really like them. Screw the magazine.
A True Designer has to design somethings he or she doesn't like but it is still a learning piece of how not to do things and a definite case of to many Chiefs not enough Indians
ok... more specifically. In the past, If I had a project (with a solid concept) that was "diluted" by the powers that were, I redesigned it and showed it. Sometimes with the old as a before and after. also...Being published at your age isn't as important as good work.
PT2 Presentation is everything. Being the ideas person usually means you would be in an management position... meaning your portfolio should demonstrate all components brought together in one cohesive, organized, entity. Bottomline... graphic design is communication. Clearly you can communicate that you are a charming, creative and intelligent girl. Design a presentation that is all those things. ... and dear god please don't use brushscript... especially if you do not like it!!! (:
PT1 Dearest PL, I've been in the graphic design business for 20+ years now and have too much to say on this subject...I'll try to nutshell it a bit. Whatever you show should be something you like, because you will have to "defend it". Age of a piece shouldn't matter. If it is good it will always be good, especially ideas.
I say don't put it in because it sounds like your ideas were pretty much ignored throughout the project. And the portfolio is meant to be all about you :)
If you didn't put efforts relatvent to the mag, don't put it in your portfolio, cux it doesn't reflect you as an artist. In a more direct way of saying this, is that you didn't do jack, so don't let people to have a chance to ask about your involvement in this project.
When management decides that they need to convey a message to an audience (say an advert or a prospectus for investors) they will typically hire (or already have on staff) an art director, or graphic design specialists. As part of the hiring process, the management wants to see an artists "style" and past work. That is in essence what a portfolio is.
True, although if she chose that option, it would be best to have answers for questions like "Who was the primary art director/editor?" and "Which of these pieces is your work?". I hope she has a good poker face.
True, although if she chose that option, it would be best to have answers for questions like "Who was the primary art director/editor?" and "Which of these pieces is your work?". I hope she has a good poker face.
Now for more general advice: Tailor your portfolio to the position that you are trying to acquire. For example, if you are trying to aquire a position as an art director, your portfolio should demonstrate pieces that demonstrate your unique ability at that task. Note the word unique. You want to try to convey the impression that you are the best at what you do.
My experience with artists is that there is a tendancy for "wow that is good I should stick it in there" syndrome. As a result, MANY porfolios are an incoherent mess. Try your best to avoid that.
I so know what you mean. I've just started uni, but I'm trying to put together an illustration portfolio, to maybe get work as an illustrator while being a student. Its so difficult. It takes alot of self motivation, which I don't have. lol. Anyway I think your work is pretty cool.
I think that even if you have grown to hate something because it's just been there in your face for ages, you should still be able to recognize the things that made it good to begin with. If you still see those things, keep it in. If you don't and still don't like it, put it aside and move forward.
I don't know you, but sounds like you should start from scratch, archive the old things for reference. dicide what aspects you want to show off in your portfolio, do projects that you are proud of in those areas and put them in. you could also set up a site for more of a mutlimedia presentation thing if they are interested. probably doesn't help though huh? well good luck though
Well I like the video portfolio idea, especially when attached to e-mail so it can be viewed on the fly. Perhaps pull all the things that require the explanation and just give them that special treatment and offer to send bring your conventional one in your interview and let the video portfolio act as your calling card!
BAD IDEA. Avoid anything that could inconvience or annoy a human resources officer. First impressions are all you get. On the other hand, IF REQUESTED, a video portfolio, in the form of a slide show or medium is acceptable.
maybe you should start setting up ur portfolio based on what you like and what you don't like.. and from then continue... of course if you end up with liking nothing at all then ur fucked..which isn't helping at all.. i don't know why i'm typing this even..
Well, you say you don't like it and if you were in an interview and were asked what your design input was, how would you answer? You appear to have managed the project rather than much of the visual work.
Indeed it does not seem like something for a graphical designers' portfolio, but you could use it to say 'look, I can manage other stuff too'. Or just take the pages you've had any input in and add them to the portfolio (but I guess that would look like shit, because there would be no context :()
Alright, I am coming down on Furras side on this one. As a businessmen, the first question that arose in my mind was "Why is she trying to put something in her portfolio that isnt her work?". It is true that management of an effort is important, but again, can she say that she "directed" the project? She admits that there were, what, four final editors? That would not look good in an interview.
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wazzapu 2 years ago
I like the picture of the fish. Even if some pictures may be two years older or more, it always seems new and interesting to people who have seen the pictures for the first time. I think the pictures are very creative.
HaleyMary 3 years ago
You are the most cute girl in the world :)
I love you, love you, love you.
your hamletman
hamletmanSlovakia 4 years ago
I also took graphic design and I just graduated. My personal opinion about what to include in a portfolio is this:
Only put in work that you LOVE. If you put in something you don't absolutely love then your lack of enthusiam will come across in an interview. If you show people things you love then they see that you love what you do etc. Our teacher always said, "It's better to have 6 pieces of work that you LOVE and are happy with than 100 pieces of work that you think is crap."
stardustmeow 4 years ago 5
i agree with the commentors that tell you to make these a hightlight in your portfolio, these are great ideas and show alot of creativity. believe in your own ideas they're good
spraycasso 4 years ago
put it in dont get rid of it becusie u will regret it puit it in or if not keeep it dont get rid of it xxx
charlotte---x
greenloveness 5 years ago
In these guys life, you have captured a moment of happiness, love, unity and compassion. Although it be in the nature of fishing, the beauty and power of the art came through your explanation of the photos. The creative value of the photostamps is in your representation of the pieces.
braskeyevans 5 years ago
The value of the art that you captured is in the visual perception of the picture. You know the story of them talking about fish and joking around. In the pictures you see happiness and love, as if they want to hug. Isn't that the artful impression that these photos present.
braskeyevans 5 years ago
Hey Princesslilies. The photo stamps should be a highlight in your portfolio along with the fundraiser calendar. Making the photos into stamps is a really cool idea. ***Please make a how-to video for me. I have thousands of photos.***
braskeyevans 5 years ago
Hey Princesslilies. The magazine has value because you were a part of it, but it doesn't have any designs to promote the employers impression of you. Dont discard it though... Have an overflow portfolio of creative works that you can offer interested individuals as a deeper look into the creative mind of Bryony.
braskeyevans 5 years ago
If you don't like it, you didn't do much for it, and it doesn't demonstrate something you do particularly well, don't include it in your portfolio. it's as simple as that, eh?
LeadpipeStudios 5 years ago
No one will have the time to painstakingly look into everything that you have done. Perhaps it is best to put only the work of which you are most proud into your portfolio.
penka1 5 years ago
Maybe just mention that you gained experience from working with a team to produce a magazine.
sawsee5 5 years ago
I guess just say "I designed a few pages, but I got a lot of experience working within a group, and understanding the steps required to produce a large project."
sawsee5 5 years ago
cosita rica
hmosk 5 years ago
It's a canal.
vash1963 5 years ago
hey you, i think you should put it in. but i guess everyone else is saying no. hmm, but someone out there could like it, like i thought it was neat
goingforthegold 5 years ago
Working in Hollywood could fulfill you as well.
Both seem like better uses of your time than anonymously insulting attractive British chicks with killer glasses.
peterdewolf 5 years ago
i wouldn't put it in just cause of the simple fact that it did not encompass your vision of the magazine. also, if u don't like it for whatever reason, then u probably shouldn't try to convince anyone else to like it. but thats my opinion...you should use your own judgement based on who u're showing it to.
zeni99 5 years ago
Why not go into politics then?
peterdewolf 5 years ago
Interesting...
Does that pay well? Benefits?
peterdewolf 5 years ago
So, she should put the magazine in? Leave it out?
peterdewolf 5 years ago
Personally, I wouldn't put the magazine in, but I remember well how it's hard when you are starting out and you don't have so much to choose from. The thing to remember is that your portfolio is meant to *both* represent your skills (sorry, "skillz") *and* impress people - if it doesn't tick both boxes, it shouldn't go in.
IMHO.
sindesign 5 years ago
Heey,
if you don't like it .. so don't use it....
If you can see your piece of work in it, so than you should put it in your portfolio.
You can just scan it is ... mot the whole thing ... or make some photographs of it ... and make a collections of you favorite parts of it on one paper...
good luck ;)
Ondrav86 5 years ago
The question you should ask yourself about each item in your portfolio is this. Does it display (hopefully in a good light) skills which may be pertinent to the jobs for which I am applying? It sounds like the stamps do that, but the magazine itself does not.
IslandHermit 5 years ago
The magazine brings up negativity within you which damages your view on the rest of your work, and interviewers will see the results.
I would suggest 1 big main portfolio which holds everything, and 1 smaller one that can be filled with materials targeted towards the audience.
Graphic art has to pay the bills like anything else.
vclamp 5 years ago
You hate it, I hate it, so toss the bugger.
lloyd98 5 years ago
and as for whether you like something or not it shouldnt totally matter. yes you should include something that youre pleased with but you should still consider things that youre not as long as it has a strong point. i.e. you desgined an ad for a product and you think is totally ugly but it still conveys the message that youre trying to get across in an aesthetically pleasing way
kindaslightly 5 years ago
i wouldnt put it in. usually youd only put things in a portfolio that YOU personally created YOURSELF. its nice to have works that are colaberation pieces but only if theres actually some visible proof or something that YOU did.
kindaslightly 5 years ago
I vote for leaving the magazine out of the portfolio. It is nice looking, but it is really not your vision and it has a negative vibe to it....so out it goes!
ohjoannabanana 5 years ago
"like dogs tearing at the same piece of meat"
moe29 5 years ago
I see why you have trouble with your portfolio. Every item in there you have a 10m explanation/description for. If you're feeling democratic, I vote to get rid of the magazine. If you don't like it, that'll come across to anyone looking at it too. If there's something you like inside that you're proud of, pull it out and keep just that.
FallenHero143 5 years ago
I think your own words say the magazine is a no for inclusion. Yes it shows what can go wrong whn a project is run by committee but you odviously hate it and as such should pass it over, show us some of the work you are certain should be included so we can see what you are feeling positive about
cw3030 5 years ago
I don't get it. If you don't like the magazine, why do you think about putting it in your portfolio?
marcspoor 5 years ago
Instinct, Bryony, instinct. You hate the magazine and it'll come across if it's in the portfolio and you have to talk about it. Put in stuff you're proud of, or stuff that almost worked which taught you something.
tlg847 5 years ago
Oops! Didn't think my comment posted....LOL. Sorry about the duplicate!
I did also want to say that I love the work you've shown so far (not quite so crazy about the magazine), love the stamps and calendar!
Tammyoh 5 years ago
Remember that one puts together a portfolio to showcase a wide diversity of their work. An interviewer will want to see that you can apply your talent to a wide range of projects that you may be assigned, and that you produce quality work. Always choose quality over quantity.
A good rule to follow: If you don't like the work, don't put it in the portfolio. The interviewer will be able to sense your uneasiness if they ask you a question about something you don't like.
Tammyoh 5 years ago
Remember that the reason one puts together a portfolio is to showcase a diverse range of work. Always choose quality over quantity, and show how your talent can be applied to different media, styles, etc. This will show an interviewer that you can easily adapt to the wide range of projects you are assigned, and that you produce high-quality work.
A good rule to follow: If you think negatively about the artwork, you should leave it out of the portfolio.
Tammyoh 5 years ago
My brother went to Leeds! He did Music though.
GTAfanSam 5 years ago
Those rock Bryony... seriously.. some nice art
mgphenom 5 years ago
I imagine part of the assessment of a portfolio is the quality of your judgement of what is good design and what is bad design. All the time someone else is paying your wages, you will sometimes have to create things that you personally hate, but they must still be well designed :) For example, I am a professional mechanical engineer, I hate most of the lumps of ugly machinery I design and develop, but I still have to make sure they don't squish or electrocute anybody ;)
daquifsta 5 years ago
I'm not an art student, but my best friend is, and I asked her to watch so she could back up my opinion. Because I'm apparently just as needy of reassurance as you are. Heh. We agreed you should pick some of the photos of the fishermen and show those in an attractive page of the portfolio because you seemed to really like them. Screw the magazine.
jigofspite 5 years ago
as man sad. "if you don't like the book...get rid of it" no joy. no keep. that is what I use to do. whit my photo when I don't like them,
mclaren122 5 years ago
A True Designer has to design somethings he or she doesn't like but it is still a learning piece of how not to do things and a definite case of to many Chiefs not enough Indians
Toxicweed 5 years ago
erm.. Just my opinion but;
1) It's better to have a smaller range of good work than a board range of "ok" stuff
1) Don't include anything you don't like
2) Only include what you're happy to talk about in detail.
Random69UK 5 years ago
ok... more specifically. In the past, If I had a project (with a solid concept) that was "diluted" by the powers that were, I redesigned it and showed it. Sometimes with the old as a before and after. also...Being published at your age isn't as important as good work.
dickmanly 5 years ago
PT2 Presentation is everything. Being the ideas person usually means you would be in an management position... meaning your portfolio should demonstrate all components brought together in one cohesive, organized, entity. Bottomline... graphic design is communication. Clearly you can communicate that you are a charming, creative and intelligent girl. Design a presentation that is all those things. ... and dear god please don't use brushscript... especially if you do not like it!!! (:
dickmanly 5 years ago
PT1 Dearest PL, I've been in the graphic design business for 20+ years now and have too much to say on this subject...I'll try to nutshell it a bit. Whatever you show should be something you like, because you will have to "defend it". Age of a piece shouldn't matter. If it is good it will always be good, especially ideas.
dickmanly 5 years ago
I say don't put it in because it sounds like your ideas were pretty much ignored throughout the project. And the portfolio is meant to be all about you :)
fayebarsby 5 years ago
If you didn't put efforts relatvent to the mag, don't put it in your portfolio, cux it doesn't reflect you as an artist. In a more direct way of saying this, is that you didn't do jack, so don't let people to have a chance to ask about your involvement in this project.
Docasin 5 years ago
What the purpose of the portfolio in the first place???
Docasin 5 years ago
When management decides that they need to convey a message to an audience (say an advert or a prospectus for investors) they will typically hire (or already have on staff) an art director, or graphic design specialists. As part of the hiring process, the management wants to see an artists "style" and past work. That is in essence what a portfolio is.
BlackenedRoseThorn 5 years ago
Workinterview:
- Wow, so youv've made entire this magazine yourself?
"No, but my friend of mine designed those yellow fishes.."
- Oh, alright then. We'll "call" you.
xr0 5 years ago
I say yes. Include it in the section on collaborated works. These will show you can work in and with groups.
Bryan
BryansPlace 5 years ago
True, although if she chose that option, it would be best to have answers for questions like "Who was the primary art director/editor?" and "Which of these pieces is your work?". I hope she has a good poker face.
BlackenedRoseThorn 5 years ago
True, although if she chose that option, it would be best to have answers for questions like "Who was the primary art director/editor?" and "Which of these pieces is your work?". I hope she has a good poker face.
BlackenedRoseThorn 5 years ago
Your portfolio should be representative of your best work, not every single thing you've ever been associated with. =)
ThreeLittleMonkeys 5 years ago
Now for more general advice: Tailor your portfolio to the position that you are trying to acquire. For example, if you are trying to aquire a position as an art director, your portfolio should demonstrate pieces that demonstrate your unique ability at that task. Note the word unique. You want to try to convey the impression that you are the best at what you do.
BlackenedRoseThorn 5 years ago
My experience with artists is that there is a tendancy for "wow that is good I should stick it in there" syndrome. As a result, MANY porfolios are an incoherent mess. Try your best to avoid that.
BlackenedRoseThorn 5 years ago
I so know what you mean. I've just started uni, but I'm trying to put together an illustration portfolio, to maybe get work as an illustrator while being a student. Its so difficult. It takes alot of self motivation, which I don't have. lol. Anyway I think your work is pretty cool.
ytak87 5 years ago
I think that even if you have grown to hate something because it's just been there in your face for ages, you should still be able to recognize the things that made it good to begin with. If you still see those things, keep it in. If you don't and still don't like it, put it aside and move forward.
DrLemur 5 years ago
I don't know you, but sounds like you should start from scratch, archive the old things for reference. dicide what aspects you want to show off in your portfolio, do projects that you are proud of in those areas and put them in. you could also set up a site for more of a mutlimedia presentation thing if they are interested. probably doesn't help though huh? well good luck though
Ocyd 5 years ago
Well I like the video portfolio idea, especially when attached to e-mail so it can be viewed on the fly. Perhaps pull all the things that require the explanation and just give them that special treatment and offer to send bring your conventional one in your interview and let the video portfolio act as your calling card!
HQFarm 5 years ago
BAD IDEA. Avoid anything that could inconvience or annoy a human resources officer. First impressions are all you get. On the other hand, IF REQUESTED, a video portfolio, in the form of a slide show or medium is acceptable.
BlackenedRoseThorn 5 years ago
Arrrrrgh! "or other medium"
Sometimes I type so fast I skip words. *irritation*
BlackenedRoseThorn 5 years ago
maybe you should start setting up ur portfolio based on what you like and what you don't like.. and from then continue... of course if you end up with liking nothing at all then ur fucked..which isn't helping at all.. i don't know why i'm typing this even..
gembolding 5 years ago
If YOU don't like it why would you show it to someone you want a job from ?
IndBill57 5 years ago
Good point.
BlackenedRoseThorn 5 years ago
Well, you say you don't like it and if you were in an interview and were asked what your design input was, how would you answer? You appear to have managed the project rather than much of the visual work.
Furras 5 years ago
Indeed it does not seem like something for a graphical designers' portfolio, but you could use it to say 'look, I can manage other stuff too'. Or just take the pages you've had any input in and add them to the portfolio (but I guess that would look like shit, because there would be no context :()
EER0000 5 years ago
Alright, I am coming down on Furras side on this one. As a businessmen, the first question that arose in my mind was "Why is she trying to put something in her portfolio that isnt her work?". It is true that management of an effort is important, but again, can she say that she "directed" the project? She admits that there were, what, four final editors? That would not look good in an interview.
BlackenedRoseThorn 5 years ago
My advice Bryony is to focus on YOUR work for YOUR portfolio (or work that you were the PRIMARY director).
BlackenedRoseThorn 5 years ago