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  • This was now over 20 years ago. I still don't think a better song has been written since then. I could listen to this song over and over like no other.

  • I personnally dont give a shit about people who dislikes.

    New order still in my heart , as JD. Thanx for all the music they made, this is the soundtrack of my life !

  • its people hate x2, then last one is need

  • there is something infatuating about this entire show

  • I think New Order was at its best when they were new and raw. As they began to specify their sound they narrowed their range, I guess that is forgivable as all artists do to some extent. I'm only saying I felt New Order chose a less interesting path, and as we look back can say almost unanimously it was Joy Division that was the true originality, and offered the most to contemporary music.

  • Such a damn shame Ian couldn't make the voyage across the Atlantic...

  • This is really great old footage from this transitional period for the band as they moved on after Ian's death. Kudos to whoever taped all this material and preserved it for everyone to see all these years later.

  • Light years ahead of the disponsible bands of the time.

  • waooo,, genial,, thank you very much friend

  • Potential lost to pretention

  • Hmm, I wonder what caused the change from first time to last time. Poor Barney.

  • CMON peeps we need 1million views on this! Spread the love! O_O

  • love the rawness of this

  • Oh and barney isn't playing a double cut away les paul I forget the technical name for it but its a gibson hollow body like king or clapton used

  • I love new order but alot of their old performances especially from 81 sound like they are still getting joy divsion out of their system. Great band I just think it took them alittle to come into their own.

  • This track as well as Everything's Gone Green from the same show showed a glimpse of what New Order would be and how they would leave the shadows of JD behind. Their evolution is facinating! Not just their pesonal change, but their sound.

  • I love this because Barney looks SOOOO nervous. hes finding himself as a singer. Like picking up where Ian left off, but in a whole new way.

  • One of the first performances of "Tempation", as the final lyrics had clearly not yet been written. This was the last song of the gig and really stuck out like a sore thumb among the Movement songs & "Ceremony", "Procession", etc. This song showed the way they were headed. Ian had loved electronic music such as Kraftwerk and Giorgio Moroder and when New Order made this song, it was like they realized they were "allowed" to do something that didn't sound like JD. They were on their way.

  • @CaptainOpprobrium Well said ... I love seeing the transition to their new sound.

  • "Bolts from above hurt the people down below" - Obama and his drone attacks

  • best version.....

  • Brilliant!

  • When Obi Wan said May the Force be with you, did he really mean Darth Vader should drop by and visit his son more often?

  • this is a marvelous video

  • ..i must have 50 plus boots of live temptation and this is still my fav...

  • How could 8 people dislike this?

  • 8 people will never truly know what happiness feels like.

  • I wonder if he makes love like a SAW??? IAN TOO!!!!

    

  • I hope you guys realise his name is actually Bernard, and Barney is just a nickname....?

  • That guitarist is THE SAW!

  • Barney is playing Ian's guitar. "Tonight we're gonna get home tight."  perfect!

  • just brilliant!

  • Leaving the stage, drum machine & sequencer still running. Roadie has to turn it off.

    EPIC FUCKING WIN.

  • BTW it's "false proverb hit the people down below"

  • @charlie123abc360 no its not

  • Awesome! And no cell phones in the air....just pure absorption of the song.

  • The riff that begins at 4:54 says it all

    Unreal

  • anyone know what guitar barney uses in this performance? i love the tone.

  • @unit731christ Looks like a GIbson Les Paul Double Cutaway

  • I watch this at least once a month. Great version. Cant get enough of it.

  • does anyone know the setlist of this gig

  • this is the best song.

  • front row. blonde hair, white shirt at 1:09.

  • @hurrah80 Who is that? It's not you is it? Or ians gf?

  • so fuckin brilliant!

  • "tonight we're gonna be alright" 

  • Was it coke or was he tripping?

  • sexykatie90 HAPPY NEW YEARS

    

  • Great gig. I was an SVA student at the time.

    Kristin Hersh in the audience at 1:05-1:10 pre Throwing Muses.

  • @hurrah80 Is that right? Which one?

  • in-fkn-credible.

  • Absolutely fucking brilliant

  • Check out Eugene Merinov - he took pictures at the gig, they are amazing. Great pic of hookys 6 string.

  • Is that Chuck Norris guest appearing on bass?

  • @Aedilfrid That is Chuck's cousin...

  • Amazing...The coke was good back then!

  • Great song!

  • Give this thumbs up if you prefer this classic over any Lady Gaga song...

  • @gold95 thats like asking to thumb up if you dont like eating human feces

  • @gold95 Why mention Lady Gaga? It has nothing to do with this music.

  • Noones mentioned how good Barney's guitar work is on this. Quite outstanding and emotional.

  • @smoothkelly I know, and the improvised solo never seemed to make it into a live performance again (that I've seen)...

  • what an astonishing performance !!!!!

  • Yes yes ,quite true, past the experimental stage, not knowing that this raw sound will be enjoyable to listen 29 years later untouched.

  • Flawed perfection as is New Order's wont.

  • Spinetingling..., from disorder to it coming together. Can feel the adrenealine coming off the screen as the creative process and confidence finds their sound.

    FANTASTIC.....

  • @axelusul

    Thought you were going to have a long JD NO pun session...

  • hooky is god.

  • Looks to me like he just forgot the words. Yet this is the greatest version of this song I have ever heard.

  • It's so fucking cool and great that Bernard sing this wierd version of the lyrics. It came out years later(correct me if I'm not right) so I think when they played this live in NY 81 it was still in progress

  • @temptationbase

    Correction, temptation was one of their first songs and as a single was released in may 82.

    But they did have a version (a bit better imo) come out in 87 for the substance compliation and rerecorded it one final time in 98.

    But yes. This is incredibly fucking cool

  • young people were beautiful back then

  • DOES ANYBODY KNOWS HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE IN THE AUDIENCE

  • watching this clip as a kid in the 80's turned me on to electronic music. never looked back

  • unbelievable you have to watch this!

  • What an incredible footage I wish I had been there.

  • Thanks for posting this. I have the original Factory video release, but it's on beta tape (talk about dated) so I can't watch it anymore.

  • I love this song, every time they play it its like a new version.

  • Wonderful performance from probably my favourite live show ever, wish I was there. Good on you for having a go at the lyrics. I thought the first line might have been...

    "People need people like you"

    Later on I hear... "Tonight we're gonna be alright, tonight we're gonna get uptight"

    "Three ways, four ways,anyway you hit the floor"

    Finally I hear... "and it's going away round the bend"

    Of course everyone has their own interpretation. Typically idiosyncratic Sumner lyrics!

  • @chrisnoaro1 I think the last line is "and it's goin' to end, goin' to end round the bend"!?

  • @mikegerrish i think your right and its fooking brilliant

  • @ARMINIUS44 No problem!!

  • The best version of the song, live or recorded. Who cares if Barney didn't know the lyrics, he still doesn't today.

  • Oh come on we keep coming back to watch Barney get electrocuted at 2:13

  • Definitely the best live performance of this track I've seen.Last time they played my town I was one year under age damn it. Anyhow this was recorded months before the single was released so I guess this was prototype stuff before they began to modify it to a commercially acceptable sound (yes I'm talking the Substance version) .This would still be in my top 10 singles of the 80's though!

  • es increible como pudieron doblegar toda esa carga la cara de bernie lo dice todo. LOS AMO.

  • you know your band cant get any cooler when you have hans gruber rocking the bass

  • @mo3ius1 "NOW I HAVE A BASS GUITAR. HO HO HO."

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  • Favorite version of my favorite New Order song. Would love to have seen this performance in person. kickass!!

  • beautiful

  • this entire concert is unbefuckinglievably fanfuckingtastic. this is when new order were so goddamn amazing. their early singles are greater than sex and Movement and Power Corruption and Lies are GREAAAAAAAAAAT records. everything after that was....ok... good but nothing in comparison to this....

  • FUCKING LOAD YOU CUNT

  • barneys whizzin i think,hes on summat anyhow !! can i have sum please !!!

  • I think this performance really shows New Order's first realization that they could in fact break away from the dark sound that embodied Joy Division. "Oh it's the first time".

  • I think its

    "up down turn around, please don't let me hit the ground"

  • Exelente video,exelente cancion.

  • Thanks I was there 1981 Ukrainian National Home no it's not the last time I saw New Order but one of the best

  • Love this version. Sumners playing is a bit too sloppy, but that's not too important. It's somewhat darker and bitter, very nice

  • soooo ahead of there time!!

  • looks like bernard's gonna kill the sound guy.

  • I love this intro, love the music, but as usual I don't like Bernard's live singing! Just sing it normally dammit!

  • absout y 1st class ground breakin tune

    the cure !!

  • this is new order, not joy division!!!

    great! ian would love this!!!!!

  • This was magical

  • I love this. Steve is covered in sweat. Frustration, fear, and uncertainty are all apparent in Barney's face. Hooky and Gillian seem to still be in shocked disbelief. The tension is incredible and the music brilliant, plodding along in unsure improvisation yet foreshadowing the great things to come. The entire gig, and particuarly this track, is absolutely raw. This footage is more intense, gritty, and moving than any film or performance I have ever seen.

  • @ajpajpajpajp so true, you nailed it... what i would have given to be there, disco dust and all...

  • @ajpajpajpajp I read in an interview, Barney said , of this concert especially, and this period, he hated it, it was the most painfull, unstable, and difficult time in his career. He was terrified, unsure of what they had created, because he was new to the roll of singer. Not in any way a melodic voice, raw, and shaky. This became the swan song, they proved to themselves and their fans to carry on. The chaos in the sound, not being totally in synch was what made this so magical, they were ALIVE!

  • @guyphawkes I think you mean that it was their 'phoenix song' (since phoenixes rise from the flames to be born again) or something - 'swan song" means something like 'one last final gasp before dying'

  • @acoutts No, I did mean swan song, they supposedly began to pen this one and compose as the last effort with Ian. It was in process, as basic as it was at the time, it holds that spirit,

  • @guyphawkes Oh.  That's interesting - I did not know that. "Swan song" it is.

  • @ajpajpajpajp Alright, pal calm down - its called cocaine.

  • best live music performance ever- this song!

  • check out ,thieves like us at the hacienda in 83

  • Steven Morris is just fuckin amazing.

  • Made-up on the spot lyrics, a bit of live danger! How it fuckin should be.

  • while watchin' i felt like its still death of Ian which affected him. dk why. just felt that way really. anyway 5 stars.

  • Absolutely brilliant. Raw. Surreal.

  • 4:25 is the best bit of this video, I absolutely adore this song

  • Absolutely! 4:25 - 5:47 is unreal

  • pure fecking genius

  • I love this. It reminds me when NO would always experiment with a half finished track live. Usually Bernard had not finished the lyrics and the results were very funny. Check out "Ive got a cock like the M1" from the Festival Hall which later became Perfect Kiss...great band

  • you can see some of Ian coming out in this performance

  • I have a totally different take on this video.

    It seems that Bernard is completely pissed at the crowd. He changed the lyrics to mock them. Bolts from above hurt people down below? People hate people like you? lol!

    He also looks completely angry and gives a half-assed performance.

    Either that or this is because of their transition from Joy Division to New Order.

  • wonderful & great!

  • this is so good to see love it thanks

  • Its funny how a band this good had inspired so much bad music to come afterwards

  • Bernards so intense!

  • this was at the world on 2nd street

  • I was shocked when I heard this version for the first time tonight! This is my second favorite New Order song to Ceremony. What is interseting is how they have made many altercations to it. In 1984 they speeded it up a bit...and on Substance in 1987 they added my favorite line later in the song...oh you got green eyes, oh you got Blue eyes, oh you got grey eyes.....there is even a later version where they start the song off with those lines.

  • absolutely love the 80s version

    god their genius and i love v aults from above hurt the people down beloe

  • The version that starts with the "Green eyes/blue eyes" line is actually the first recorded version off of their EP 1981-Factus-1982 produced by Martin Hannett. If you haven't heard of it, you should check it out. It's my favorite NO release.

  • Thank you, I hope I can find that someday. To me it's the way the song should be.

  • @MrCraigzee Omg, couldn't said it more correct

  • Emory0, Good to get a first hand account from an audience member. What struck me about this video was how restrained the audience was. Must have been they hadn't heard the song before either.

  • I remember this concert pretty clearly, and this song in particular. I don't think the single had come out yet, so this was my first time hearing this tune, but a lot of people afterward remembered that "last, long meandering tune".

    I was in the front row right in front of B.A., but I haven't spotted myself yet...

  • Came out 1982

  • the start with the synth of this live version make me shit in my pants:D

  • Great song!

  • Ian Would Be Proud (2).

    For sure.

  • Ian Would Be Proud :)

  • wicked!

  • You could have had the FBI CIA blasting this number 5-6-7 hours a day at me at guantanamo bay, and id have came out and within 5 - 6 - 7 minutes listened to it again

  • This is some version of this song and maybe the best. I notice in later live versions they go back to the same synth version as used on this one. I always liked New Order, but they just keep growing on me. They also have an amazing history and they had creative freedom because they stayed clear of big record companies. They are simply brilliant!!

  • WOW.That wis fuckin awesome.

  • barry as feck

  • Top work as always VanishInFright. This is easily my favourite version of this song. My contribution to the great Bernard-lyrics debate, however: "People, need people, like you; People, need people like me; People, need people, like you", second verse, "People, need people, like you; People, hurt people, like me". And at the end, "Oh it's the first time, and it's gonna end; It's going round the bend". Well, that's what I've always heard!

  • Brilliant. Totally brilliant.

  • sounds like "three ways, four ways"

  • nah, I was there during this period (Firehouse 81 - Hacienda 84-87) Bernie was trying to come to terms with Ian's death by trying all kinds of vocal inflections until he had the strength to just be himself - he's painfully shy. When he found his own voice, the band became a band - and ultimately a better one than Joy division. If that makes me a heretic, then so be it. It's true.

  • Original and best! White Lies are bringing back memories of Joy Division and early New Order for me...

  • Ah, a classic before it was refined. Nice.

  • I remember this one. It brings back a lot of memories.

  • Gillian Gilbert is so sexy!!....me encanta este tema de N_O

  • i wish Barney would have kept on singing this way. at least Joy Division songs...

  • I just LOOVE the beginning! lock at them(: it wasnt long ago Ian died, but they just moved on and still they sound and look the same:D ride on new order

  • Way ahead of their time at this point, as was Joy Division. Look at what was on the charts back in 1981 compared to this. A few clean-up items on the lyrics: People need people like you, people need people like me. Faults from above..; Up down, turnaround, please don't let me hit..; Three ways, four ways, anyways,..Thanks for posting this video. Cheers

  • I was brought up to this music, it's in my veins, it's not music, it's a way of thinking and a way of life and i'm proud to be like that inspite these ugly times!

  • Uh uh. This is classic electronica man. Beautiful.

  • Was Bernard tripping???????

  • TOTALLY!

  • Uh yeah he must have been

  • What a completely unique sound.

  • This is from their first North American tour, the same one they would have done with Joy Division earlier on in the year. You can tell by the way Bernard sings and handles the microphone that they're still in the Joy Division mindset. It's a pretty awful rendition, but this is history.

  • I disagree.. it was a different time and there is a certain amount of emotions in his performance, albeit more serious, but nevertheless really strong..

  • Earlier on in the previous year, you mean?

  • EMO?! This isn't emo! How could you come to THAT conclusion?!

  • the best song of NEW ORDER

  • I feel blessed to know this music, literally forweep on non listeners.

    see the world in this music

  • Your know theres strange people out there who actually dislike this lol.

  • The original 12" of this in 1982 packed dancefloors. When BM came out, it revolutionised new wave dance music.

  • i just bought this video, and here i am watching it on youtube. this song is serisouly something else.

  • fabulously amateurish as always. Perhaps it what makes their songs so delicate.

  • Where did his great Voice go? This hurts!